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#25401
lunamoondragon

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People4Peace wrote...

Dj14365 wrote...

Attack of the Show finally talked about us. They even sounded like they are behind us. They only mentioned things we have done such as the Facebook retakeme3 page and the BSN poll showing that only 2% of people like the endings. The endings were even called lazily made. That is some positive national press keep it up, let's get this done. Hold the line!


Yay! :D I'll have to check for it on Youtube in a couple of hours.


Whoa! 
I can't believe we've already gotten this much attention! <3 Keep it up, everybody! We may win this war yet!

#25402
People4Peace

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Faded-Myth wrote...

If that one Tweeter wants to punch gamers who hate the endings, he's going to have some awfully sore knuckles.


Exactly....though I was shocked that the ME tweeter didn't acknowledge that part of the tweet but still responded with a very vague response - I think it was something like "Thanks for the support." I am thinking...really? But I guess that is okay because he likes the endings....<_<

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Just want to give another bump to the Retake ME3 Child's Play Charity Drive. Almost at $7500.

Already 7878 :P


Really? That's great! I guess the amount isn't refreshing for me - it's stuck at $7417.61.

I wouldn't be surprised if tomorrow the amount reach $10.000

#25404
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P_sutherland wrote...

Faded-Myth wrote...

If that one Tweeter wants to punch gamers who hate the endings, he's going to have some awfully sore knuckles.


we should let him punch us ? :o

cant we....

Renegade: Punch him?

Paragon option: get him to join our cause?

Catayst option: join organic and non organics to make peace ?


lol. Easy choice. Screw the Catayst/God Child/Casper. Punching doesn't solve anything and...I rarely play as Renegade (except when its SOO rewarding).....so Paragon option, for sure.

One more on our side! Yeah! :wizard:

#25405
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Nilofeliu wrote...

General Tiberius wrote...

Salazar501 wrote...

I just saw this now, but, there is an achievment called "battle-scarred" it's description says: " Promote a multiplayer character to the galaxy at war OR IMPORT AN ME3 CHARACTER."
Any thoughts on this?


If you select new game after completing it you can import your Shepard from your completed ME3 game.

I think the ending is fine. It isn't broken, it doesn't need fixing. That it didn't end the way people thought or would like doesn't make it bad.

It has questions left unanswered. So? If everything tied off neatly then there would be no room for interpretation, it would be more manufactured than it is now as it would have less player input. There's a book called "Rendezvous with Rama" written by Arthur C Clarke which is widely recognised as one of the finest Sci-Fi stories written. It's about an Alien spaceship passing through our solar system and our attempts to find out what it is for, who built it and anything else we can gather. At the end of the book we had not worked any of these things out with absolute certainty. That was not a bad ending, that was a realistic one. Not everything must be explained for something to have a satisfactory ending.

Why did you ever think that it would tell you what happens afterwards? These games told Shepard's story. Once Shepard made that choice on the Citadel, her role was over. She accomplished what she set out to do. It is up to the races as a whole to decide what to do with the life that Shepard has managed to save for them.


That's the whole point. WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AFTERWARDS...

The main issue here is not the ending in itself, but the lack of information regarding it. We do not know what happened to the Normandy and we do not know what happened to every other race. The game ended, credits rolled, have a nice day. Oh, and don't forget to buy the new DLC..

That was the slap on the face. I remember playing DA:O the first time, and my character actually died and I felt sad for him. But I didn't feel disappointed. He did what he had to do, and to see what came aftewards was satisfying enough. We didn't get that here. All we got were 3 options that made no sense, despite telling us that all of our other choices before had been meaningless and irrelevant.

And as if that was not enough, I ask  you what about the plot holes during the game and in the end? How did the characters that were in my party when I was hit ended up in the Normandy crashing God knows where? How did Udina became Councilor if I choce Anderson? How did Anderson got ahead of me in the citadel, when obviously he was behind me? And why the final conversation with the Space God Child gives me no real options on how to talk to him? You may have enjoyed it and that is your opinion. I won't contest it, but for you to come here and patronize us because we did not enjoy it as you did, is a bit too much...


My point was that you do not need to know what happens afterwards, that it isn't part of Shepard's story. If there's another game in the Mass Effect universe set after the events of ME3 it can explain that. My personal opinion is that it isn't necessary at this point.

Your previous choices were not irrelevant in the slightest. They determined how you reached that final point, who lived, who died.

As for plot holes:
1) The Normandy I can't answer with the information given, maybe a shuttle picked them up and carried them to the Normandy?
2) Anderson resigned as Councillor so that he could oversee Earth's preparations for the coming invasion personally.
3) Anderson said that he was teleported to a different area than you. He was also not blown up by a Reaper so would have been able to move at a speed faster than a shuffle.
4) What would you ask the AI? It already presented you with the options available. Plus there's a load of Reapers going to attack the Citadel to prevent you from activating the Crucible so you don't exactly have time to start talking philosophy (if you wait too long in picking your choice you get a game over, saying that the Reapers destroyed the Citadel).

If my original post came across as patronising then I'm sorry, that was not my intention. I just wanted to put across my thoughts as to why the endings are fine.

Modifié par General Tiberius, 14 mars 2012 - 12:00 .


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ajunta_ wrote...

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This makes me sad. Who the hell wants to play as a batarian soldier anyway.

After meeting Balak in ME3... I kind of do.

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Dunno if this means anything but:

@masseffect do y'all have any ETA when more news will be released? Dying for news on a new ending/DLC.

@wishihadadream No ETA yet, but you will be updated via Facebook and Twitter when the news is available :).

EDIT: I have no idea how to link Twitter conversations, so if someone else could post the link to it, that would be awesome.

Modifié par Nineteen, 13 mars 2012 - 11:56 .


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P_sutherland wrote...

Ffelan wrote...

We were just mentioned on Attack of the Show! Yay!


Whats attack of the show ? 



Attack of the Show is a daily tv show from G4tv.   They didn't condemn us and were quite respectful mentioning our campaign to change ME3 ending, citing our Facebook page and confirming that there is no official comment from BW other than BW is aware of the complains coming in. 

#25409
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Alamar2078 wrote...

IMHO the dream / hallucination / indoctrination theory is the best we've got and I am OK with Tiax's post for as far as it goes.

My problem is not that I don't get the ending that I want I honestly feel we are note getting the ending that BW lead us to believe that we were getting. That's what has me up in arms.


The theory is fine in itself but the ending just lacks closure. A 10 minute hallucination just delivers no closure for the "final/last" game of the series. I think we deserve to know that what we did/decided mattered and not a gasp as a last glimmer of hope that "everything might get better".

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AH! Here we go:

https://twitter.com/...716973503070209

Modifié par Nineteen, 13 mars 2012 - 11:57 .


#25411
Jarys

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The poll numbers are going up even more quickly, last night when I went to sleep there was 7000 more votes by the time I woke up. If this momentum keeps up, by the time Bioware's 'end of month' announcement that someone mentioned happens, we should be nearing the 100k mark.

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Faded-Myth wrote...

If that one Tweeter wants to punch gamers who hate the endings, he's going to have some awfully sore knuckles.


I am seriously in awe at how civilized the "whiners", aka, WE, are, compared to those defending the endings.

From what I have seen, we have presented carefully thought out reasons and arguments (after the inital shock-reactions), that explain the flaws of the ending, while the other side has either denied those points, openly attacked the group that is not happy about the endings, name-called and brought forth this petty argument about self-entitlement.

Keep it up folks, but more importantly, keep it Paragon! If these bloggers and those who think complaining is self-entitled whining come across as jerks, we can hold our ground much more easily.

I mean, we like Bioware and ME after all. If we didn't, we wouldn't be where we are now.

#25413
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@masseffect do y'all have any ETA when more news will be released? Dying for news on a new ending/DLC.
Mass Effect‏@masseffect:
@wishihadadream No ETA yet, but you will be updated via Facebook and Twitter when the news is available :).



Oooooooooh

#25414
Bionic Weapon

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Wow look at how far this thread has come. I am just smiling at how determined and passionate we are about the the game. We love the series and Bioware for creating it. I like many people here still love the company but know for a fact tater they are better than this. I hope that they see that we as fans aren't mad in the "I hate you and hope you die" sense. We just want the company to continue the quality that they had for so many years, and not leave us hanging. Time will tell what they do and I can only hope that whatever that is, it'll be special.


Anyway I don't know any of you personally but I am proud to call you all my brothers and sisters.
Don't compromise
Don't surrender
Stand strong
Stand together
Hold the line

Modifié par Bionic Weapon, 14 mars 2012 - 12:00 .


#25415
Mythandariel

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I understand the endings. I replayed through and got over 5000 readiness points and destroyed the Reapers and got the waking up scene.

What I hated, was that they botched Thane and Kolyat. Kolyat, the only time that you see him, is almost emotionless. I wanted to hear just a little hitch in his voice. Even him commenting on your romance with Thane.

And Thane himself got forgotten. I would have loved it if your decision to help his son gave him the strength to at least not get ganked by Nightwing 2.0. Then following you to the epic conclusion with a little whoopie as icing on the cake.

That is what I am really pissed about.

Modifié par Mythandariel, 14 mars 2012 - 12:01 .


#25416
BCMakoto

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This change of events, even just the smallest hope, could have happened because of us or even without us standing up.

Regardless, raising so much for children in need, standing together, holding the line. I am proud to be a part of the donators/posters in here.

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https://twitter.com/...714134651305984

Interesting thought there.

#25418
FinalEndeavor

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History in the making!!

Hold The Line!!

#25419
Atraiyu Wrynn

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Computim wrote...

@masseffect do y'all have any ETA when more news will be released? Dying for news on a new ending/DLC.
Mass Effect‏@masseffect:
@wishihadadream No ETA yet, but you will be updated via Facebook and Twitter when the news is available :).



Oooooooooh


Gonna be new multiplayer crap.

#25420
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Chatboy 91 wrote...

ViperAlvein wrote...

I look forward to the point where we can cry "AND WE HELD THE LINE!"


F**K YEAH! It will be a glorious day.


I'll make a print for hoodie if this really happens. I'm serious.

#25421
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B.Shep wrote...

TSC_1 wrote...

B.Shep wrote...

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Just want to give another bump to the Retake ME3 Child's Play Charity Drive. Almost at $7500.

Already 7878 :P


Really? That's great! I guess the amount isn't refreshing for me - it's stuck at $7417.61.

I wouldn't be surprised if tomorrow the amount reach $10.000

8043 now

#25422
Matt_gekko88

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I feel indoctrinated o_o

#25423
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Menthro wrote...

Yah so I said I was leaving but the bloody new reeled me right back in....more exposure: http://robotgeek.co....making-history/


In this article he mentions that some of the voice actors have actually re-tweated the take back movements Child's play charity, anybody know which ones?

#25424
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Hey whatever happens, holding the line with you people has been a real fix for my mood and look at the good we have done as well, over 8k raised from our anger and depression being funneled into a good thing.

http://retakemasseff...ect-childs-play

We are making a point, even if we don't get the ending the SERIES deserves, make no mistake we don't deserve it Shep himself and ME itself does, we have set a damn fine precedent.

HOLD THE LINE!

#25425
thedistortedchild

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Dan Rosse wrote...

Chatboy 91 wrote...

ViperAlvein wrote...

I look forward to the point where we can cry "AND WE HELD THE LINE!"


F**K YEAH! It will be a glorious day.


I'll make a print for hoodie if this really happens. I'm serious.

I'll buy it. I'm serious.