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[Alamandorious]

PacoL250 wrote...

Wow...1k pages and counting... 

Amazing that this is being discussed the way it is.  Call it a shortcoming of the game itself or whatnot; however, I think this may have just been BioWare's intent all along.  They WANTED the game to end sadly for the character(s) you connected with the most.  Heck, some people are saying that all the endings are hallucinations, and that the Reapers just hosed everybody, finishing this cycle of harvesting, etc.  Or that Shep takes out the Reapers and most of the galaxy with him, leaving only pockets of life.  Sure, we want the choices to matter so we can feel that we end the game whatever way we want to, but while there's supposedly no "canon Shepard" per se, the general story of Shepard is BioWare's, not ours.  From a gameplay mechanic, they give us all these choices to make us get involved into the story and get pulled into the game so we're more emotionally involved in it (more on that a bit later).

I can't say I'm too happy with there not being a happy ending per se, but I'm somewhat content with how it ended.  There are ton more questions than answers, that's for sure; however, I wouldn't be surprised if we found some sort of closure through DLC or later installments of the ME universe.  Keep in mind, while Shepard's story is over, the ME universe as a whole isn't done...BioWare said it themselves.  Unfortunately, the implementation is a bit questionable in regards to how the game should end; however, keep in mind while we're given choices in the game to determine how it should go, there are still specific "endings" or "decisions" that always need to be made (e.g. think about Virmire in ME 1, the recruitment process leading into the various team setups at the end of ME 2).  Those "final choices" always were there in each game.  I gather it's the fact that we're locked into choices that seemingly end in a terribly sad way that gets to us.  Sure it's somewhat a cheap way to end a wonderful trilogy that many of us have been emotionally invested into, but that's the beauty of it: we're so divided by this because we cared about certain characters.

Personally, I will say this: the ending got me close to tears a bit.  I've been a huge fan since day 1 of ME 1 and while I'm bummed out there's not a happy conclusion for our crew per se, I'll deal with it.

Still, I can't help but wish there was a happy ending...cause I know I myself would have (like so many others) gone for that.

While I can't agree with you 100%, since I believe the endings weren't that good (would have made a good bottom-middle-road ending), I respect the way you put your ideas across.  Civil, polite, and well thought out.

[MeldarthX]

Alright folks;

way the tweets have gone; hints and BW guys pointing people to a thread saying pretty much last 10 minutes is just a dream and you're fighting indoctrine..

I loved the game......its near damn perfect....but the ending pissed me off. Its a contrite piece of dribble. It screams we got to finish this up; is it nearly as bad as say Neverwinter night's 2?? No......

Does it end Shepard's story? No; because I'm laying there; alive......with what looks to be reaper rubble around me. That's what I think most don't understand. The story isn't even close to being finished. We were told it would be; but then a lot of game companies do this.

Hell this is blizzard's formula. Those that say bs; look at every game after Diablo; discounting MMO. Diablo 2; released incomplete story; isn't finished until expansion is put out. Warcraft 3; same thing. Starcraft - though starcraft can technically be argued it was completed and Brood wars just expanded. Now Starcraft 2

Hell look at a lot of BW's old games; one of the best RPGs of all time Balder's Gate 2; story wasn't fully explained without the expansions.

I think BW made best mass effect game to date; while they don't owe us anything; I hope as an owner of every BW game out ther but jade.....I hope they give us an actual ending. Because this dream state doesn't wash - I mean hell gimme a big ass nuke; a kiss off Liara and I'll go shove it up Harbringer's tenticle butt ;D

Hold The Line !!!

[Menthro]

Ramshakkle wrote...

What's the Child's Play total at now? Mine's stuck at $7145.

Keeping up with this has been simply inspiring. Looks like we're actually making progress, and if not, then we've at least done good on the charity drive. (To which I'm contributing once the next billing cycle on my card starts)

Just gotta keep on going. Hold the line my brothers (and sisters) in arms. Keelah Se'lai.

8704 as of last refresh

[thedude2086]

Just finished the game a bit ago. I almost didn't want to finish the game after reading a lot of the reviews about he problems with the ending.  I guess if I didn't finish it I could still pretend the ending would be as I imagined/hoped it would be.

Still trying to wrap my head around the ending though.  I really don't know what to think.  I love don't the ending.  I didn't even like it.  I can't hate it because I don't understand it.   I've tried looking at it philosophically.  Came up with nothing.  I tried to apply my school and look at it as a piece of literature.  Nothing.  It reminds me of the very last scene (with Six and Baltar) in Battlestar Galactica where, after three years, I still don't know what the creators wanted us to take away from it.

One 10 minute segment doesn't kill a game.  The rest of the game is awesome (aside from some glitches and whatnot).  I guess we'll see what happens.  I do believe Bioware wants us to be happy with their product.  They have never disappointed me before that last ten minutes of ME3.  

All the same, I guess I'll add my name to the petitions and do whatever else.  I never get involved in these things since most of the time I don't see them changing anything.  Something about this seems different though.

Modifié par thedude2086, 14 mars 2012 - 12:35 .

[TSC_1]

Ramshakkle wrote...

What's the Child's Play total at now? Mine's stuck at $7145.

Keeping up with this has been simply inspiring. Looks like we're actually making progress, and if not, then we've at least done good on the charity drive. (To which I'm contributing once the next billing cycle on my card starts)

Just gotta keep on going. Hold the line my brothers (and sisters) in arms. Keelah Se'lai.

$8474, as far as I can tell. I had to open the page in IE. I don;t think Firefox likes it much.

[stucksuburbanite]

Well, it's been real. Heading off for the night. Will be going to bed with the hopes that this is all just BioWare hardcore trolling us and all will be well soon enough.

[Valk72]

Just wait for the japenese to see the end, they will go crazy over it like they did with NGE's one, i'm sure of it XD

Modifié par Valk72, 14 mars 2012 - 12:36 .

[jerobolod]

I have to ask, as a newbie...

Is it always this busy around here?

[PurpleWhisper]

What gets me more than anything is that though Bioware boasts a dedicated team of writers who are supposed to be great at keeping eveything tight and correct within their universe; somehow they managed to include a major plothole right at the very end? We all saw the crew members on the ground in London before Shepherd's final journey. And many people had their love interest in the final party. So the fact that they end up on a crashed Normany on some random planet at the end is either a MAJOR plothole or we are missing something.

Modifié par PurpleWhisper, 14 mars 2012 - 12:35 .

[Rheinlandman]

TSC_1 wrote...

Darth Suetam wrote...

Hehehe yes. Kind of pathetic, really. They want to know if you enjoyed it even if you finished their own game.

Maybe they thought people would be happy with this ending (or at least not angry), and when they came with a DLC with another part of the story (AKA: the real ending), people would be happIER! And since, supposedly, you already liked the first one, it wouldn't be "obligatory" to get the DLC so it could make sense.

If that´s the case, I think things didn't come out as they hoped for. I'm sure they hope the DLC will make things right with the fans, but until there, I would consider the whole strategy a blunder.

Well, I certainly imagine that there are some rather frantic discussions going on at BW and EA at the moment.

Whatever their idea was the execution was terrible.

I am going to go read something of quality...

Snow Crash; who doesn't love rat thang?  Maybe when I wake up tomorrow the Japanese future people will have their release global release and BW employees won't be so tight lipped.

Or maybe we just have to wait for the April 6th Mass Effect Panel at PAX.

[Puppet_Guy]

Ramshakkle wrote...

What's the Child's Play total at now? Mine's stuck at $7145.

Keeping up with this has been simply inspiring. Looks like we're actually making progress, and if not, then we've at least done good on the charity drive. (To which I'm contributing once the next billing cycle on my card starts)

Just gotta keep on going. Hold the line my brothers (and sisters) in arms. Keelah Se'lai.

I AM curious though...  Who started up the charity?

A Shepard among us, perhaps?

...Suppose it doesn't matter.  What does matter is that we're doing some good.  Like the article said...  At worst, we still managed to help some sick kids.  Still a win.

Let's keep holding that line!

[thedistortedchild]

Ramshakkle wrote...

What's the Child's Play total at now? Mine's stuck at $7145.

Keeping up with this has been simply inspiring. Looks like we're actually making progress, and if not, then we've at least done good on the charity drive. (To which I'm contributing once the next billing cycle on my card starts)

Just gotta keep on going. Hold the line my brothers (and sisters) in arms. Keelah Se'lai.

Edit- At TSC, if that's really the case, I think that would be pretty amazing. I mean, I don't want to see BioWare utterly destroyed over this, but hesitation's kinda nice to see here.

8704<3

[Nefelius]

The Child's play is certainly a brilliant idea. With all the bitterness around the game it's the only thing that comforts me seeing the unity it brought and it will actually end up good in any way.

[FinalEndeavor]

The hardest thing for me right now is that I want to start another one of my characters especially one with my lover Tali but as soon as I start it up and see the kid it all comes back to me

[QwibQwib]

Nefelius wrote...

The Child's play is certainly a brilliant idea. With all the bitterness around the game it's the only thing that comforts me seeing the unity it brought and it will actually end up good in any way.

If I had $$ i'd def donate, if it's still up i'll donate :]

[Aeyl]

Valk72 wrote...

Just wait for the japenese to see the end, they will go crazy over it like they did with NGE, i'm sure of it XD

Hahaha, oh gosh, that would be...interesting. lol

[Menthro]

Puppet_Guy wrote...

Ramshakkle wrote...

What's the Child's Play total at now? Mine's stuck at $7145.

Keeping up with this has been simply inspiring. Looks like we're actually making progress, and if not, then we've at least done good on the charity drive. (To which I'm contributing once the next billing cycle on my card starts)

Just gotta keep on going. Hold the line my brothers (and sisters) in arms. Keelah Se'lai.

I AM curious though...  Who started up the charity?

A Shepard among us, perhaps?

...Suppose it doesn't matter.  What does matter is that we're doing some good.  Like the article said...  At worst, we still managed to help some sick kids.  Still a win.

Let's keep holding that line!

A wonderful person named uniquename001 seems to be the one who set it up

[thedistortedchild]

go here to donate http://retakemasseff...ect-childs-play

[Dj14365]

jerobolod wrote...

I have to ask, as a newbie...

Is it always this busy around here?

You bet, it is almost too much to keep up with, but that is what we need. Keep on hold'n that line.

[Computim]

Puppet_Guy wrote...

Ramshakkle wrote...

What's the Child's Play total at now? Mine's stuck at $7145.

Keeping up with this has been simply inspiring. Looks like we're actually making progress, and if not, then we've at least done good on the charity drive. (To which I'm contributing once the next billing cycle on my card starts)

Just gotta keep on going. Hold the line my brothers (and sisters) in arms. Keelah Se'lai.

I AM curious though...  Who started up the charity?

A Shepard among us, perhaps?

...Suppose it doesn't matter.  What does matter is that we're doing some good.  Like the article said...  At worst, we still managed to help some sick kids.  Still a win.

Let's keep holding that line!

The charity got started a day or so ago back in the 800s if I remember correctly.  It's a great idea, so glad the person thought of it   There's a thread around, you can see whoever the OP was on that one since they were the one who started it.  Definitely got their Paragon points that round.

[Deventh]

I am off for tonight as well. I hope this thread makes even more progress tomorrow!

[Ramshakkle]

Interesting, IE's the one not loading for me, just checked FF and that did load.


And for the record, if it does turn out this was all planned before hand, gotta say this. I'll admit to liking the concept of the alternate reality game, even kept up with Bungie and MS's IRIS campaign for Halo 3 through its length. But for the love of all that is holy, it should be before the game launches rather than inadvertently hurting and pissing off a lot of people.

[Sywen]

TSC_1 wrote...

Ramshakkle wrote...

What's the Child's Play total at now? Mine's stuck at $7145.

Keeping up with this has been simply inspiring. Looks like we're actually making progress, and if not, then we've at least done good on the charity drive. (To which I'm contributing once the next billing cycle on my card starts)

Just gotta keep on going. Hold the line my brothers (and sisters) in arms. Keelah Se'lai.

$8474, as far as I can tell. I had to open the page in IE. I don;t think Firefox likes it much.

Its at 8830 

[infinitekilan]

I'm taking off too... A friend of mine is about to finish ME3, and he's going to need moral support. I did forewarn him that the ending would crush his soul, but I don't think he understands how severely...