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[Dj14365]

Denethar wrote...
Casey Hudson comments:

What are your thoughts on the reaction to the game’s endings?
I didn’t want the game to be forgettable, and even right down to the
sort of polarizing reaction that the ends have had with people–debating
what the endings mean and what’s going to happen next, and what
situation are the characters left in. That to me is part of what’s
exciting about this story. There has always been a little bit of mystery
there and a little bit of interpretation, and it’s a story that people
can talk about after the fact.

So....original plan failed, time to rage?

No not time to rage stay the course. There is a very distinctive difference between memorable and debatable and what we were given. If we keep up the pressure this won't be the end so continue holding the line.

[ShaneP]

Rolling Flame wrote...

Maybe, but if there is an ending where Shepard survives, kills the Reapers, and gets to live with his LI for the rest of his days, it will go a long way in making people happier. 

I'd have to agree, even though it wouldn't completely right my disappointment, it would still please me a bit more. Apart from lacking the ending I wanted with my LI (Liara on most occasions) I was really hoping for big differences to the ending depending on choices from the first 2 games. From what I can gather the only decision that makes a real difference is whether you choose to save or destroy the collector base.

[Dorfgonewild81]

mauro2222 wrote...

Denethar wrote...

Casey Hudson comments:

What are your thoughts on the reaction to the game’s endings?
I didn’t want the game to be forgettable, and even right down to the
sort of polarizing reaction that the ends have had with people–debating
what the endings mean and what’s going to happen next, and what
situation are the characters left in. That to me is part of what’s
exciting about this story. There has always been a little bit of mystery
there and a little bit of interpretation, and it’s a story that people
can talk about after the fact.

So....original plan failed, time to rage?

"and it’s a story that peoplecan talk about after the fact."

Does this guy knows that the only reason we are commenting about the endings is because they suck?

The Child's pplay drive has had me happy pretty much all day and now this is really starting to ruin it for me.  Does he have no clue what so ever whats going?  Could have sworn they said they were listening to us?  

[Aeyl]

Denethar wrote...

Casey Hudson comments:

What are your thoughts on the reaction to the game’s endings?
I didn’t want the game to be forgettable, and even right down to the
sort of polarizing reaction that the ends have had with people–debating
what the endings mean and what’s going to happen next, and what
situation are the characters left in. That to me is part of what’s
exciting about this story. There has always been a little bit of mystery
there and a little bit of interpretation, and it’s a story that people
can talk about after the fact.

So....original plan failed, time to rage?

I will pay (if necessary) to get a continuation, but I don't feel that I should have to.

I wonder if they ended it in this incomplete way so that they could make an expansion, because they were worried about DLC not selling if people have already finished Shepard's story or something. Or if this really is the true ending

Eh, I'm confused

Hahaha, oh gosh...

[Berty213]

RebelByDesign wrote...
I actually tried walking to one with the intention of walking up to each of them in turn but you can't. It seems that once you start heading down a particular path you can't turn back. Anyone else have the same thing happen to them?

Funny you should say that, I was only going down the middle with the intention of seeing what it was, I wanted to have look at each of them. I didn't even get halfway there before the cutscene started.

[Stygian1]

Just wanted to say you guys are all great. I love that this time fans aren't just taking it in the face, we're fighting for a better ending for a great story. It really is awesome.

Hold the Line.

[TerrifiedKiz]

Nilofeliu wrote...

Denethar wrote...

NPH11 wrote...

 Jeremy Jahns posted his video on the endings. Wonderful!

Someone needs to send this to EA/Bioware, this guy knows what's it all about!!!

Loved it. Got me laughing a lot, even thought I am still depressed...

This guy is awsome! I'm off to sleep guys, HOLD THE LINE!

[KaiserinKai]

Denethar wrote...

Casey Hudson comments:

What are your thoughts on the reaction to the game’s endings?
I didn’t want the game to be forgettable, and even right down to the
sort of polarizing reaction that the ends have had with people–debating
what the endings mean and what’s going to happen next, and what
situation are the characters left in. That to me is part of what’s
exciting about this story. There has always been a little bit of mystery
there and a little bit of interpretation, and it’s a story that people
can talk about after the fact.

So....original plan failed, time to rage?

....Does he even READ! By the Goddess he's blind!

[Alamandorious]

We're getting it done, people...that little bit of recognition from Hudson means more than you think. Yes, it wasn't what we wanted to hear...but our voice is being heard, and it's only getting stronger.

Hold the line!

[Graywolf633]

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Could someone explain this "Indoctrination Theory" you guys have? I just finished it (Yeah I'm late to the party so what!?) At the moment I just dont know what to think...

Because of the inconsistency during the final few minutes of the game, it is believed that everything that happened to Shep after being blasted by Harbinger has been a dream in which the Reapers are making one last concentrated effort to indoctrinate him with the "control" and "synthesis" endings. The boy / The Catalyst is believed to be an indoctrination hallucination since nobody else throughout the game ever sees or notices him except Shepard, and always tries to tell Shep that no one can save him or humanity. The last dream is pretty supportive of this idea as well: You catch / believe the kid and you burn / die.

The inconsistencies themselves in this ending are likely Shep's consciousness trying to make sense of the indoctrination attempt. The way Anderson is never seen before being beamed up by the beacon, the way Anderson is ahead of Shepard while on the Citadel and there is only one way to the final platform when Shep gets there. 

Because Shepard would rather have his squad survive than anything, in his mind, they are escaping the battle on the Normandy and crash-land on some strange planet that lets them start over with a clean slate. His consciousness refuses to believe that they were killed in Harbinger's beam, so he magically places his potentially-dead squadmates on the Normandy so they don't starve with everyone else on Earth.

Because "destroy" is the only true ending that completely defies the Reapers, it is supposedly the only ending in which Shepard wakes up after the end and on Earth before the beacon. The Reapers themselves try to discourage this choice by emphasizing the sacrifices that have to be made if the Reapers are destroyed: i.g. EDI is destroyed, the geth are destroyed, the relays are destroyed. This accepted sacrifice simply shows that Shep is willing to go to any lengths to destroy the Reapers and the only way to overcome the indoctrination attempt.

"Destroy" is also considered the Paragon option since it's Anderson's option in the cutscene whereas "control" is the Illusive Man's choice, and therefore renegade. The confusion of the colors in the Illusive Man's choice is paragon blue and vice versa is the Reaper's painting it as the best choice when in actuality it simply indoctrinates Shepard completely and puts him under their control. "Synthesis" simply re-writes every organic with Reaper code so they still get what they want.

This is everything I've gathered from the Indoctrination theory, and it seems to make more sense than the real endings. If there's anything I'm missing, feel free to jump in or try to explain it better.  

[mnomaha]

I'm confused. After the credits roll...I'm back on the Normandy? I'm supposed to play DLC and ****...on the Normandy? Isn't that on planet Lost, somewhere in the WTF galaxy?

[NPH11]

Oh, now I'm excited.

Red Letter Media ‏ @redlettermedia
@MariLetje Will will be doing something with Mass Effect 3... stay tuned...

Plinkett ME3 review please?

[Nilofeliu]

 I don't know if anyone posted it here already. Got it from another thread...

Digitaltrends Exclusive Interview with Casey Hudson: Ending Response Included

http://www.digitaltr...-controversies/

For those that don't want to read the entire interview, I'll copy and paste the question and answer here.

What are your thoughts on the reaction to the game’s endings?
I didn’t want the game to be forgettable, and even right down to the
sort of polarizing reaction that the ends have had with people–debating
what the endings mean and what’s going to happen next, and what
situation are the characters left in. That to me is part of what’s
exciting about this story. There has always been a little bit of mystery
there and a little bit of interpretation, and it’s a story that people
can talk about after the fact.

At least he got one thing right, we are never going to forget the game. That bloody danmed ending is seared into my mind and after 6 days I haven't been able to forget it yet. Even gave me nightmares...

Modifié par Nilofeliu, 14 mars 2012 - 01:59 .

[Stygian1]

mnomaha wrote...

I'm confused. After the credits roll...I'm back on the Normandy? I'm supposed to play DLC and ****...on the Normandy? Isn't that on planet Lost, somewhere in the WTF galaxy?

SPACE MAGIC 

[I-am-Biwinning]

Denethar wrote...

Casey Hudson comments:

What are your thoughts on the reaction to the game’s endings?
I didn’t want the game to be forgettable, and even right down to the
sort of polarizing reaction that the ends have had with people–debating
what the endings mean and what’s going to happen next, and what
situation are the characters left in. That to me is part of what’s
exciting about this story. There has always been a little bit of mystery
there and a little bit of interpretation, and it’s a story that people
can talk about after the fact.

So....original plan failed, time to rage?

I don't think Casey Hudson understands the meaning of "polarizing". People are not split into radical opinions on both ends of the spectrum, they are banding together to show an unprecedented degree of disapproval. When only 2% of your core fanbase likes the ending, while almost 90% hate it, that's not polarizing.

Modifié par I-am-Biwinning, 14 mars 2012 - 01:59 .

[ziyon conqueror]

No, this cannot be the end. If it's the end of the Mass Effect trilogy, then logically, Bioware can create as many different endings as they want.

[Ffelan]

NPH11 wrote...

 Jeremy Jahns posted his video on the endings. Wonderful!

Most excellent!  Thank you!

[TamiBx]

Denethar wrote...

Casey Hudson comments:

What are your thoughts on the reaction to the game’s endings?
I didn’t want the game to be forgettable, and even right down to the
sort of polarizing reaction that the ends have had with people–debating
what the endings mean and what’s going to happen next, and what
situation are the characters left in. That to me is part of what’s
exciting about this story. There has always been a little bit of mystery
there and a little bit of interpretation, and it’s a story that people
can talk about after the fact.

So....original plan failed, time to rage?

...I'm going over there to get ice cream and cry for another day, kay? This is too much. 
Last week I would have never thought we would be living this nightmare...

[alienman]

a question.

don't want to start a new thread because of this. but, I'm just wondering if the story up to the ending can by diffrent from player to player? I know Tali can die.. but can you save Mordin, Legion and so on, or are those guys doomed from the start?

[Veryth]

He's right ... I may never forget Mass Effect 3, but I sure as hell will forget BioWare.

[lunamoondragon]

Alamandorious wrote...

We're getting it done, people...that little bit of recognition from Hudson means more than you think. Yes, it wasn't what we wanted to hear...but our voice is being heard, and it's only getting stronger.

Hold the line!

This! At the very least, we're being heard!
Let's see how far we can take this!

[zarnk567]

Just forget Casey, we are making progress. Hold the Line!!!

[Auralius Carolus]

KaiserinKai wrote...

Matthias Silverblade wrote...

NPH11 wrote...

 Jeremy Jahns posted his video on the endings. Wonderful!

SUPERB.

He gets it!

LOL. A beach with big dead Reapers. YES PLZ!

[zerobounds]

i have a friend that played ME3 and we beat it around the same time, been raging about the ending.. He had a motorcycle accident at the track and ended up having a seizure out there and spent 4 days in ICU with a massive concussion.

He doesn't remember anything from the past week, including the ME3 ending.

It's awesome - f'ing sad about the wreck and scary with ICU but hey, he didn't have to see the end of Mass Effect.

[Alamandorious]

http://social.biowar...606/polls/28989

This poll is now over 40,000 strong, with the bulk being we don't like the ending.