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[Alamandorious]

Roll Equals Cute wrote...

Just writing to say that I'm supporting this. Holding the line!

Welcome to the fleet.  Your contribution to the war effort is recoginized; report to Admiral Hackett for briefing

[Dan Rosse]

Darkwingduck wrote...

The set of choices at the end of this game were the first ones where I've ever said "I don't want to pick any of those." I like to think of myself as an experienced gamer and I've played enough to have been given many hard choices across many different games but none of them as irritating as this one.They all felt like variants of getting kicked in the teeth and asked to like it.

Exactly my feelings.

[Soundsystem]

Casey Hudson seems very very confused about what the word polarizing means..

[Berty213]

It's getting late, I'm off to bed. Keep up the good work guys, see you tomorrow.

TamiBx wrote...
...I'm going over there to get ice cream and cry for another day, kay? This is too much. 
Last week I would have never thought we would be living this nightmare...

Hang in there  we can win this. Hold the Line!

Modifié par Berty213, 14 mars 2012 - 02:10 .

[Katosu]

Alamandorious wrote...

Roll Equals Cute wrote...

Just writing to say that I'm supporting this. Holding the line!

Welcome to the fleet.  Your contribution to the war effort is recoginized; report to Admiral Hackett for briefing

I'm joining too, but I'm gonna join the N7's instead.

I hate admiral hackett, for some reason.

[Anxarcule]

As I posted a couple hundred pages ago, I was really disappointed with the endings. One of the main reasons for that was that they made no sense as far as I was concerned. After brooding about them for a couple of days I decided to see what would my Shepard have thought.

(I am skipping the whole reasoning behind the Reapers mainly because the Catalyst would require a little bit more than circular logic to convince my Shepard that destroying everything and everyone he cared about was for his own good).


Shepard: So, you control the Reapers?

Catalyst: Yep.

S: The same Reapers that have deceived and killed their way through the galaxy?

C: Sure.

S: That being the case, I should trust you why, exactly?

C: Well, I look like a kid, kids are innocent and don't lie, I am on your side.

S: Right, keep thinking that. You mentioned something about choice?

C: Ahhh, yes. You have three options. The first one is shooting some pipes.

S: Wait, what pipes?

C: Some explosive pipes. Doesn't really matter, lets say those over there. So, you shoot them and a chain reaction destroys all synthetics in the galaxy.

S: Let me get this straight, some explosion triggered by blowing up random stuff will kill all AIs in the galaxy, Reapers, Geth and EDI, but it will spare say...my microwave?

C: Unless your microwave happens to be self-aware, yes, that would be it.

S: You are really pushing it, you know.

C: You haven't heard anything yet...

S: Pardon?

C: Nothing, lets go on, shall we? Your second options is gaining control over all synthetics.

S: That sounds cool. What's the catch?

C: No catch, you just need to grab those electrified handles.

S: Wouldn't that kill me?

C: Well, duh, but you get to control the Reapers, isn't that awesome? Trust me on this one, remember, innocent child here.

S: Think I'll pass. I mean, the third option can't be worse than these two.

C: Yeah...Moving on. Your final option is jumping into the pillar of light in the middle of the room.

S: What will that accomplish beyond getting me killed?

C: It will allow me to use your energy to splice every living and synthetic thing in the galaxy together! Ultimate evolution!

S: Come again?

C: You heard me.

S: You must really think that my concussion is worse than it is. Nice try Harbinger, but if you want me to off myself for your amusement, you could at least try to come up with some plausible options.
Using my "energy" to splice every being in the galaxy... that's a good one. I you excuse me, I think I will look around for some control panel, non-electrified if possible.

C: Wait, I am telling the truth! I have SPACE MAGIC!!!

S: If you say so, now keep quiet while I save the galaxy.


All puns aside, I don't think any Shepard would have settled for those options. And as I mentioned above, that is one of the reasons the ending is so bad.
(Sorry about the wall of text)

[Ramshakkle]

Yeah, unless it ended up being meant as forumites vs BioWare/EA, polarizing is used terribly wrong there. Unifying is the word.

[Nilofeliu]

Dan Rosse wrote...

Darkwingduck wrote...

The set of choices at the end of this game were the first ones where I've ever said "I don't want to pick any of those." I like to think of myself as an experienced gamer and I've played enough to have been given many hard choices across many different games but none of them as irritating as this one.They all felt like variants of getting kicked in the teeth and asked to like it.

Exactly my feelings.

Actually I felt the same way in the end of Deus Ex Revolutions... But I was just tired and wanted it to be over, so I picked the option I didn't die (I think)... Point is, for me DE Revolutions was just a game and didn't have me invested at all, especially not nearly as much as I have in the Mass Effect...

Ramshakkle wrote...

Yeah, unless it ended up being meant as forumites vs BioWare/EA, polarizing is used terribly wrong there. Unifying is the word.

Somehow I just got the picture of David vs. Goliah in my head...

Does anyone have a rock?

Modifié par Nilofeliu, 14 mars 2012 - 02:11 .

[ColloquialAnachron]

Hudson is in damage control mode folks. If he says admits to the cluster bomb of problems we are causing with our respectful but persistent protest and our significant charity work, this would look very bad pre Asian launch. Such admissions of problems might have convinced some of us to cancel pre-orders and wait until they were resolved. Spinning it as "polarizing" is probably the best way the PR department could come up with to label this nearly one sided feeling of disgust, disappointment and defeat.

That he has to address it at all is a sign of success, hold the line!

[Bubi7]

dunno if someone posted it here already, but someone made a stats page with the different polls/likes/posts etc:
http://retakeme3.priv.nu/
sorry if I link to external sites without perm

Modifié par Bubi7, 14 mars 2012 - 02:11 .

[KaiserinKai]

ReapersSniper wrote...

Well they did do somethin on me3 they added a new pack for mp -.-

...This is getting ridiculous. They are just ignoring us, developing this BS that almost NO ONE is going to buy instead of doing something about the god awful ending.

Then they will wonder "Why isn't the DLC selling?" By the goddess, when will things start making sense...

[inversevideo]

thedistortedchild wrote...

 Everything this guy says is exactly what I feel about this game.

OMG! He was really 'spot on'! 

He captured my disappointment with the ending, which spoils and violates an otherwise good trilogy.

Whether or not Bioware/EA fixes this or just lets it die off; I hope they at least take the criticism to heart and learn what not to do, should they ever take on another project of this scope again.

[SandTrout]

Just because this is still funny every time I watch it:

[Computim]

Dominus Solanum wrote...

Nilofeliu wrote...

 I don't know if anyone posted it here already. Got it from another thread...

Digitaltrends Exclusive Interview with Casey Hudson: Ending Response Included

http://www.digitaltr...-controversies/

For those that don't want to read the entire interview, I'll copy and paste the question and answer here.

What are your thoughts on the reaction to the game’s endings?
I didn’t want the game to be forgettable, and even right down to the
sort of polarizing reaction that the ends have had with people–debating
what the endings mean and what’s going to happen next, and what
situation are the characters left in. That to me is part of what’s
exciting about this story. There has always been a little bit of mystery
there and a little bit of interpretation, and it’s a story that people
can talk about after the fact.

At least he got one thing right, we are never going to forget the game. That bloody danmed ending is seared into my mind and after 6 days I haven't been able to forget it yet. Even gave me nightmares...

po·lar·ize 
[poh-luh-rahyz] 

1.to cause polarization  in.2.to divide into sharply opposing factions, political groups,etc.
Friends, we have indeed been polarized. Into hating something that was amazing 99.6% of the time. 

George Bush style mission accomplished?

I don't think we've really been divided hahahaha... 98% agree the ending sucks hahahaha

[The Big Palooka]

[quote]Denethar wrote...

Casey Hudson comments:

What are your thoughts on the reaction to the game’s endings?
I didn’t want the game to be forgettable, and even right down to the
sort of polarizing reaction that the ends have had with people–debating
what the endings mean and what’s going to happen next, and what
situation are the characters left in. That to me is part of what’s
exciting about this story. There has always been a little bit of mystery
there and a little bit of interpretation, and it’s a story that people
can talk about after the fact.

So....original plan failed, time to rage?[/quote]

[/quote]
...

www.youtube.com/watch

P-polarizing?  Doesn't that imply that there's some other group out there squawking about how much they LOOOOVE the endings and THANK YOU LOOOORD for the endings?  No, honey, no. 

And why is his response to the question about From the Ashes three times as long as his response to the question about the ending?

[vboy23]

Yeah, kotaku had a change of opinion, but as has been said, this is Kotaku and anything goes. I've lost a lot of respect for some of these gaming  sites whose journalists don't even do proper research before posting their articles online.

I was surprised that it was an article from Forbes that actually tells our side of the story.

[Alamandorious]

Katosu wrote...

Alamandorious wrote...

Roll Equals Cute wrote...

Just writing to say that I'm supporting this. Holding the line!

Welcome to the fleet.  Your contribution to the war effort is recoginized; report to Admiral Hackett for briefing

I'm joining too, but I'm gonna join the N7's instead.

I hate admiral hackett, for some reason.

Noted.  Report to alliance HQ in your area for briefing.

[Sky Grey Hawk]

Katosu wrote...

Alamandorious wrote...

Roll Equals Cute wrote...

Just writing to say that I'm supporting this. Holding the line!

Welcome to the fleet.  Your contribution to the war effort is recoginized; report to Admiral Hackett for briefing

I'm joining too, but I'm gonna join the N7's instead.

I hate admiral hackett, for some reason.

How could you hate the Admiral!! Hackett is such a badass.

[SkaldFish]

Stygian1 wrote...

I'm falling in love with Forbes. Never read them before, will now.

Hold the line

Those guys have been incredible -- the voice of reason in a sea of spin. I'm subscribing...

[Alamandorious]

Erik Kain over at Forbes started off against us, but then he seemed to do more research, and now is on our side. Even when he wasn't with us, he wasn't insulting...having him on our side is good.

[KRAETZNER]

What's the word from g4, been gone a few hours.

[thedistortedchild]

WarBaby2 wrote...

If I could, I would make Mr. Hudson watch this until he is able to recite it from memory... seriously.

http://www.youtube.c...ser/JeremyJahns

seconded

[Matt125]

My ideal ending: You are about to go into the teleporter thing when Harbinger speaks directly to you, threatening you, saying if you want to eliminate the Reapers you'll have to give up everything you love... you go to the Citadel to hook up the thingy to the wotsit, the Illusive Man is there, he looks just like he does in the current ending, all Saren-like and indoctrinated. Paragon: You can convince him to shoot himself. Renegade: You can shoot him. Insufficient points in either: You talk, and then there's a boss fight. Choice at end of fight: Destroy reapers or try to control them. If you try to control them... ending cutscene: Reaper dominated galaxy. Cycle begins anew. If you destroy them: Ending cutscene with characters and races depending on your choices. If you attacked Reapers with a lot of assets, most ships survive, if not then the whole galaxy is ruined, some hope remains but there will never again be a Council, too much death, destruction and suffering for all the races to come together. People have to start all over again. But if you did everything right.. well, Jeremy put it right. Beach, drinks, jokes.

Modifié par Matthias Silverblade, 14 mars 2012 - 02:17 .

[Alamandorious]

KRAETZNER wrote...

What's the word from g4, been gone a few hours.

Not much, they put a poll up that is reflecting ours lol.  Dunno if they expected that