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[cotheer]

Eumerin wrote...

lunamoondragon wrote...

thomash81 wrote...

a question.

don't want to start a new thread because of this. but, I'm just wondering if the story up to the ending can by diffrent from player to player? I know Tali can die.. but can you save Mordin, Legion and so on, or are those guys doomed from the start?

I know that you can save Mordin, but in doing so you have to have killed Wrex and destroyed Maelon's data. Legion can only be saved if Tali dies, I think... I've heard Thane lives if Kirrahe was saved, but I'm not sure about that one either.

Thane dies no matter what.  He flat out tells you that according to the doctors he should have been dead six months before.  He's living on borrowed time, and his death in ME3 allows him to go out as a hero instead of dying a slow, lingering death.  If Thane is already dead, then Kirrahe dies instead.  But Kirrahe only appears on the Citadel if Thane's not around to take the hit.

I suspect that Legion dies no matter what as well.

Dafuq 
I have yet to see Thane in ME3 and Kirrahe already died on Citadel. The hell was he doing there in the first place 

[alienman]

Thanks for the quick answers guys. Shame that Thane has to die. But oh well, one less alien to ponder about after the ending.

[Experimentel]

[quote]The Big Palooka wrote...

[quote]Denethar wrote...

Casey Hudson comments:

What are your thoughts on the reaction to the game’s endings?
I didn’t want the game to be forgettable, and even right down to the
sort of polarizing reaction that the ends have had with people–debating
what the endings mean and what’s going to happen next, and what
situation are the characters left in. That to me is part of what’s
exciting about this story. There has always been a little bit of mystery
there and a little bit of interpretation, and it’s a story that people
can talk about after the fact.

So....original plan failed, time to rage?[/quote]

[/quote]
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www.youtube.com/watch

P-polarizing?  Doesn't that imply that there's some other group out there squawking about how much they LOOOOVE the endings and THANK YOU LOOOORD for the endings?  No, honey, no. 

And why is his response to the question about From the Ashes three times as long as his response to the question about the ending?

[/quote]

I've seen people that do like the endings. There is a group of them out there somewhere.

[Bigbar]

Just coming to say supporting the line.

[Neko Hibiki]

DaftArbiter wrote...

NovemEnuma wrote...

The price...of surviving/defeating once and for all an extinction cycle that been happening for millions of years; a bittersweet ending.

In a fictional game that lets us pick our own endings.

OH WAIT NOW YOU CAN'T BECAUSE WE WANT TO FORCE SOMETHING ON YOU






I'm not saying "preorder canceled" but this royally sucks the fun out of the game for me. Everything about making our own destiny...down the drain. Fallout 3 all over again!

I really regret paying $140 for this crap, if I knew how it would end I would not have bought the preorder version.

[Alamandorious]

Bigbar wrote...

Just coming to say supporting the line.

Welcome; your contribution to the war effort has been recoginized.  Report to Admiral Hackett for briefing

[RussianOrc]

im back.
any news guys??

[The_Canadian_Dragon]

Hey, this is something that's been bothering me for a while.

Say that Bioware comes out with an Ending DLC like we're all hoping. How would people who bought the game but don't have an xbox live account be able to access it?

I mean, if this was Bioware's (not so) great plan all along, did they even consider these people?

Correct me if I'm wrong, as I'm by no means an expert, but you do need an xbox live account to download things like DLC and demos and such?

[jamminjamin]

Sad endings wasn't the problem. The problem was closure and redefining certain rules that were laid out in the first 2 9/10 games. Rules that we weren't expecting to be broken. Shepard is known to disregard the "You can't do it" attitude from his foes as he did things his way anyway. The ending (singular) flew in the face of that simple concept as Shepard just gives in to the puppet master's logic without a fight.

Worst of all was that many people were expecting a variety of closure from the relationships their Shepard built with other squad mates over the last 5 years. The lack of footage showing exactly how the WAr Assets were utilized. ( I really wanted to see the Rachni fight, the Krogan own, Jack and her students defend, etc.) But these assets were nothing more than percentages to a generalized realization of how badly the battle for earth becomes.

Once again, it wasn't the supposed sad endings that's the problem!! but things much deeper that betrayed us. The changing of the rules, per say. Out-of-character themes, and a character thrown at us out of no where with no relationship to build off of. No closure. Plot holes that made no sense.

One last thing to mention: I feel very badly by the behavior somes fans have displayed against Bioware staff. Not all of  us are jerks with emotional disorders!!! Many fans here appreciate and have fallen in love with this series and have deep admiration to the team that assembled these games! There will never be another series like this one, ever. Many of us just hope beyond hope that our hard work playing these games over the last 5 years will not go in vein! The journey has been epic! And we all wish to believe our actions and decisions will go beyond the ending... that the journey may be over for Shepard, but not over for those we've affected throughout our journey.

[Ramshakkle]

RussianOrc wrote...

im back.
any news guys??

Ten grand raised for charity in less than a day, that's something.

Hudson also made a response in an interview, if the quote could be found, I'd appreciate it. Enjoyed the endings were 'polarizing', even though it doesn't vaguely fit the situation, as it's moreso unifying.

[hector7rau]

Hudson can very well say whatever he wants (or not really say anything meaningful at all...just saying), but we have to hold the line. HARD.

[zarnk567]

Don't Know if everyone saw this guys amazing review on just the Mass Effect 3 ending

[Rolling Flame]

Anxarcule wrote...

As I posted a couple hundred pages ago, I was really disappointed with the endings. One of the main reasons for that was that they made no sense as far as I was concerned. After brooding about them for a couple of days I decided to see what would my Shepard have thought.

(I am skipping the whole reasoning behind the Reapers mainly because the Catalyst would require a little bit more than circular logic to convince my Shepard that destroying everything and everyone he cared about was for his own good).


Shepard: So, you control the Reapers?

Catalyst: Yep.

S: The same Reapers that have deceived and killed their way through the galaxy?

C: Sure.

S: That being the case, I should trust you why, exactly?

C: Well, I look like a kid, kids are innocent and don't lie, I am on your side.

S: Right, keep thinking that. You mentioned something about choice?

C: Ahhh, yes. You have three options. The first one is shooting some pipes.

S: Wait, what pipes?

C: Some explosive pipes. Doesn't really matter, lets say those over there. So, you shoot them and a chain reaction destroys all synthetics in the galaxy.

S: Let me get this straight, some explosion triggered by blowing up random stuff will kill all AIs in the galaxy, Reapers, Geth and EDI, but it will spare say...my microwave?

C: Unless your microwave happens to be self-aware, yes, that would be it.

S: You are really pushing it, you know.

C: You haven't heard anything yet...

S: Pardon?

C: Nothing, lets go on, shall we? Your second options is gaining control over all synthetics.

S: That sounds cool. What's the catch?

C: No catch, you just need to grab those electrified handles.

S: Wouldn't that kill me?

C: Well, duh, but you get to control the Reapers, isn't that awesome? Trust me on this one, remember, innocent child here.

S: Think I'll pass. I mean, the third option can't be worse than these two.

C: Yeah...Moving on. Your final option is jumping into the pillar of light in the middle of the room.

S: What will that accomplish beyond getting me killed?

C: It will allow me to use your energy to splice every living and synthetic thing in the galaxy together! Ultimate evolution!

S: Come again?

C: You heard me.

S: You must really think that my concussion is worse than it is. Nice try Harbinger, but if you want me to off myself for your amusement, you could at least try to come up with some plausible options.
Using my "energy" to splice every being in the galaxy... that's a good one. I you excuse me, I think I will look around for some control panel, non-electrified if possible.

C: Wait, I am telling the truth! I have SPACE MAGIC!!!

S: If you say so, now keep quiet while I save the galaxy.


All puns aside, I don't think any Shepard would have settled for those options. And as I mentioned above, that is one of the reasons the ending is so bad.
(Sorry about the wall of text)

Haha, that's great. I also love through the game, and indeed, the trilogy, that Shepard has always had one goal: to destroy the Reapers.

"I have to stop the Reapers!"
"We must kill the Reapers!"
"They'll destroy us if we don't destroy them!"

And then

"Wait, so you're saying I can control the Reapers?"

[Alamandorious]

Well folks, time for me to call it a night.

I know this may not mean much, but it's coming from a veteran of gaming and the internet...

I have never been more proud of an online community as I am of this one. You people have kept this civil, done your best to keep it civil, and are accomplishing good even if we don't win this.

Hold the line.

Keelah Se'lai

[vboy23]

RussianOrc wrote...

im back.
any news guys??

were getting more exposure, read this one

http://robotgeek.co....making-history/

plus we had a 30 sec blurb on g4tv, which was unbiased (even positive).

then theres casey hudsons interview saying the ending "polarized" everyone...<_<

[Rolling Flame]

Whoops, double post.

Modifié par Rolling Flame, 14 mars 2012 - 02:21 .

[416]

Reporting in to give my support for this.

[Dj14365]

vboy23 wrote...

Yeah, kotaku had a change of opinion, but as has been said, this is Kotaku and anything goes. I've lost a lot of respect for some of these gaming  sites whose journalists don't even do proper research before posting their articles online.

I was surprised that it was an article from Forbes that actually tells our side of the story.

It really isn't surprising that our primary media support has been coming from a financial organization. Thinking from a business standpoint alienating the majority of your clientele isn't a sound long term financial stratagy. You don't make much money by doing that. Hold the line!

[Xion66]

http://www.gamefront...ns-are-right/2/

More war assets coming in, and boy are we on a roll.

[RussianOrc]

Ramshakkle wrote...

RussianOrc wrote...

im back.
any news guys??

Ten grand raised for charity in less than a day, that's something.

Hudson also made a response in an interview, if the quote could be found, I'd appreciate it. Enjoyed the endings were 'polarizing', even though it doesn't vaguely fit the situation, as it's moreso unifying.

good news, well...at least the first part.

[arc62]

i have sunk about a full week of my life into ethe first two games over multiple characters and because of that ending i think once might be enough for me in mass effect 3. up until the random ghost child told me i had a choice between the a red light, a green light or a blue light i thought it was one of the best and most emotionaly compelling story lines i had ever seen in a game; now i feel like a three year old was hired to write the ending and wanted to put himself in it. the whole game i was looking forward to finding out how my choices would have impact the galaxy.
i feel like bioware just gave its comunity a big middle finger.

[Nilofeliu]

Neko Hibiki wrote...

DaftArbiter wrote...

NovemEnuma wrote...

The price...of surviving/defeating once and for all an extinction cycle that been happening for millions of years; a bittersweet ending.

In a fictional game that lets us pick our own endings.

OH WAIT NOW YOU CAN'T BECAUSE WE WANT TO FORCE SOMETHING ON YOU






I'm not saying "preorder canceled" but this royally sucks the fun out of the game for me. Everything about making our own destiny...down the drain. Fallout 3 all over again!

I really regret paying $140 for this crap, if I knew how it would end I would not have bought the preorder version.

If I knew how it ended I would not have played it. Even after 6 days I still have nightmares.. (for real) and I haven't been able to play any game at all. I even tried going back to L.A. Noire, but just didn't have the mood for it...

[Computim]

Dj14365 wrote...

vboy23 wrote...

Yeah, kotaku had a change of opinion, but as has been said, this is Kotaku and anything goes. I've lost a lot of respect for some of these gaming  sites whose journalists don't even do proper research before posting their articles online.

I was surprised that it was an article from Forbes that actually tells our side of the story.

It really isn't surprising that our primary media support has been coming from a financial organization. Thinking from a business standpoint alienating the majority of your clientele isn't a sound long term financial stratagy. You don't make much money by doing that. Hold the line!

Yeah, I suspect a lot of the stock hit EA took today was related to the forbes article..  Probably best way to hit the CEO too, being as HIS bosses are now noticing. ;P

[Auralius Carolus]

Experimentel wrote...

I've seen people that do like the endings. There is a group of them out there somewhere.

I ran a few off from infront of my house about an hour ago. A shame they thought I was quoting Tali when I told them "I have a shotgun..."

All three of them are likely regrouping at the local Starbucks.