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[Risselda]

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Modifié par Risselda, 14 mars 2012 - 03:27 .

[SoulReaver49]

soske aizen wrote...

am i the only 1 who doesnt whant to go to bed just cuz they dont wana get out of the loop lol?

Nope. I didn't even want to go to attend my classes today. However, since good money was paid for them, I suppose I didn't have a choice 

[sumo390]

It only seems negative because it's actually positive and they don't want to see the truth.

[Darkwingduck]

"Can you tell me another story about The Shepard?"
"Can I have ten more dollars?"
"But I don't have any more money grandpa."
"Then go to bed."
^^ random person commenting on this:
http://www.escapistm...t-3-The-Process


I call that frickin accurate.

[QwibQwib]

Generic Name wrote...

Well this just went down on Gamble's twitter.

http://twitter.com/#...768831584120834

Hold the line.

I didn't like that, that guy was being disrespectful. They are human beings like us, they have feelings.

Modifié par QwibQwib, 14 mars 2012 - 03:29 .

[TamiBx]

Generic Name wrote...

Well this just went down on Gamble's twitter.

http://twitter.com/#...768831584120834

Hold the line.

And then he said he was listening to him up until he said that...

Guys, being rude to the developers isn't going to get us anywhere. We have to be as polite as possible so they won't find a reason to say bad things about any of this. 


EDIT: highly doubt it was anyone on this thread but...you get the point 

Modifié par TamiBx, 14 mars 2012 - 03:29 .

[WvStolzing]

http://www.gamefront...fans-are-right/

This article can't be quoted/linked enough!

[Darth_Acheron47]

Zhijn wrote...

baronkohinar wrote...

http://www.gamefront...fans-are-right/

This beautifully and succinctly sums up everything we're saying. We should see to it that it receives more exposure.

Great article. Was well worth the read tho i/we already know it, its good to see more taking a stand.

This is really good. They touch on all of the main points that I feel like were the reason/s the ending was such a disappointment. And it's nice to see more and more of the gaming community taking this seriously and saying, "hey, you know, there's a real problem here - people aren't just complaining because they can or because they wanted sunshine and roses for the ending."

Awesome.

[soske aizen]

QwibQwib wrote...

Generic Name wrote...

Well this just went down on Gamble's twitter.

http://twitter.com/#...768831584120834

Hold the line.

I didn't like that, that guy was being disrespectful. They are human beings like us, with feelings.

+50

[SaabFAN86]

Well... Nice work Bioware! You successfully managed to rip the Mass Effect Universe from the greedy hands of EA. With that ending no game will follow in the ME-Universe.
But this ending... Come on!
The destruction of Thessia, Earth, the mission on the Palaven Moon, Tuchanka: Every mission pulled me deeper into this universe. Then the assault on Earth. Perfect!
But then its like you fired the whole scriptwriting-team and called Uwe Boll (famous for most Game-to-Movie desasters) to write the Ending.
Whats wrong with you guys? You used to be THE Studio when it comes to good stories. But this...
My verdict: "Setzen! Sechs!" (Roughly translated: "Sit down! You failed!")

[Teacher50]

I had thought about writing about the ending and showing in a conclusive manner how it was all wrong. What choices are these? I still could however, who would see it or what effect would it have? I will point out how I feel about it albeit Bioware has literary choice to end it however they please.

1. I felt betrayed... I could not chose a happy ending. All the hype on choices throughout the trilogy feels like BS.

2. The connotation at the end after the credits where the child uses the term "The Shepard" does not belay my feelings of betrayal. Shepard's tend their flock and guide them but they don't have to cease to exist to do so.

3. I felt that Bioware is trying to tell me that the end justifies the means. What we do in life has no meaning. The little things don't matter. I don't believe that and that's why the ending is hollow.

There are hundreds of reasons most of which are reasons involving the choices people make in their own lives and how they see this affecting the end game. I'm talking about the end game of real life. If the people at Bioware can't understand this, they should take pause. Perhaps take a stroll on a dark clear night outside and look up at the stars and ask themselves, who am I really, how did I come to be here, what's my purpose, can I do my best in life and still have the chance at happiness? Or can we only do the right thing by giving ourselves up in the end... lost hope. How is that going to work in reality? Endings like that point out a bleak outlook for life... our heroes,,, all dead. Thanks Bioware for sharing your outlook on life. What about ours?

There was a lot of talk about a movie based on this? With an ending like this, I'm not going to see it no matter how great the "action" scenes are. Just too depressing.

[Generic Name]

QwibQwib wrote...

Generic Name wrote...

Well this just went down on Gamble's twitter.

http://twitter.com/#...768831584120834

Hold the line.

I didn't like that, that guy was being disrespectful. They are human beings like us, with feelings.

Agreed.

Also his reply didn't seem to copy over. I'm not "hip" with the Twitter.

Modifié par Generic Name, 14 mars 2012 - 03:33 .

[Menthro]

Generic Name wrote...

Well this just went down on Gamble's twitter.

http://twitter.com/#...768831584120834

Hold the line.

Not the kind of message we want to be sending ladies and gentlemen, I know that it is frustrating to pretty much be ignored by those that matter in this issue but please stay civil and do not harras anyone. 

Hold the line

[Welsh Inferno]

Darkwingduck wrote...

"Can you tell me another story about The Shepard?"
"Can I have ten more dollars?"
"But I don't have any more money grandpa."
"Then go to bed."
^^ random person commenting on this:
http://www.escapistm...t-3-The-Process


I call that frickin accurate.

Lol thats great. 

Also yes, likely accurate.

[TSC_1]

QwibQwib wrote...

Generic Name wrote...

Well this just went down on Gamble's twitter.

http://twitter.com/#...768831584120834

Hold the line.

I didn't like that, that guy was being disrespectful. They are human beings like us, they have feelings.

I agree. To say I'm unhappy about the endings is an understatement, but that's no reason to be rude. Hate never solved a thing.

[OniRogue]

I have beaten ME3 today.

I was quite aware of the controversy about the ending, but I still wanted to experience it by myself. So I loaded my Infiltrator MaleShep dating back to ME1 and thoroughly enjoyed the ride. The Missions with old and new Companions, as well as the way earlier decisions were reflected sent me on an emotional rollercoaster; I laughed, I weeped and I gritted my teeth regularly and I loved it.

Then I arrived at "London".

I came with all Alliences I wanted to set up since they were hinted at in ME2. Geth are helping the Quarians out on Rannoch, Turians and Krogan worked together after I cured the Genophage and I aquired every asset possible in my Story. (Accumulating ~7200 TMS and with 91% Galactic Readiness I boasted an EMS of 6000+) I was ready to kick some Reaper ... Backsides. The Situation seemed fittingly grim. Ground troops were being pushed back and the success of the Mission seemed to be in Flux.

(At this point I assumed this would lead to a Situation akin to ME2 Suicide Mission: Reaching the Crucible and uploading some kind of Repear "Killswitch" while the "Assets" I got bought Time for this to happen. I hoped that this would work similar to thze aforementioned Suicide Mission. Depending on how good I did, I would see Companions live or die through tough Situations, I would see the Fleets pushing back the Reapers with varying losses. I expected something along those lines culminating in a "The more time I bought, the 'happier' the ending" -Scenario.)

What I got was a very obscure pick your poison Situation that just kept on confusing me. (I am aware of the "Indoctrination" theories, more on them later)
None of the choices PRESENTED at this point seemed to make any sense in the Story I played up until now. ReaperCreatorChildAbomination1 simply transported me to him and told me that his Solution failed. Fair Enough, time to tell him my Solution....

I thought. Instead the "I could be the Reaper Hivemind" Character told me what he thinks I should do. Why? He just told me his Solution failed and that he needed a new one, but somehow he can present me 3 Choices without giving it any thought? Stomaching even this I listened to his options.

1.Control: Scratch that, I just made TIM kill himself after explaining that the Reapers could not be controlled.

2.Merge: Yeah right so that the few Reapers that are maybe still waiting outside the edge of our Systems come swooping down and hit the overide on our now controlable Brains? I did not watch Legion Sacrifice himself to do the same mistake now; heck even Saren showed what comes out of this "great and peaceful" Synergy.

3.Destroy: Finally the thing I came here for! But wait the Mass Relay and every other AI gets destroyed as well? Why that? Because he decrees it?

Contemplating what my Shepard would do, I then chose 3. Destroy. Which got everything the Catalyst told me. As Icing on the cake I saw the Normandy in the middle of a Jump, getting hit by the Pulse of Orange Destruction, stranding on some planet. What just happened here?

What happend during the whole ending Sequence? Playing these Games tought me one thing. Along with a few exceptions to this Rule, everyone who dies, every Situation that took a turn for the worse happened because I, the Player, did something wrong OR not at all.

Wrex Survival in ME1 depended on my choices. The success of the aforementioned Suicide Mission depended on my choices and action prior to that. I searched these Forums looking for what I did wrong! I thought that I failed the Game! I thought I missed something that warrants this "Bad Ending". This has nothing to do with the questions that amounted while experiencing the ending Sequence. It has everything to do with me expecting a good, a perfect Ending IF I did everything right.

But none of that happened (or can happen as I know now). Thats one Part of why I feel so hollow after this ending. It is fundamentaly different and in contrast to the first 2 Games. The way I could shape the Games abruptly stops to apply here.

The Second Part of my Disappointment stems from the lack of an epilogue. I was told to expect the definitive End of Shepards Story. But it simply stops. ME3 has its End, as much as I dislike it but were is the ending of the Trilogy that we were promised? This feels as if "The Lord of the Rings" ended with Frodo destroying the Ring, crawling out of the Mountain and then; Cut to the Credits, Thanks for watching!

The Fate of Shep and of his Companions were always interwoven, Characters that joined us on our journey and followed us to the End. (Our "Fellowship" for the sake of continuing the LotR analogy). I was not expecting an Epilogue spanning hours of COntent showing every thing that could possibly happen, but I wished for one last Gathering, one Last "Mission Accomplished" Scene before the Credits role, starring the Surviving Friends of Shep.

TL;DR:

This Game does not feel like the promised Conclusion to me, I think that this Ending is as ambigiuos as it could get, which does not fit with this kind of Story (Imo, of course)

IT CERTAINLY IS a great Game in a Series of great Games, but to me this is not the promised Conclusion but the "To be Continued" Version of it.

To Rectify my opening Statement:

Today ME3 has beaten me.

Modifié par OniRogue, 14 mars 2012 - 03:32 .

[lavacaverns]

Finally at 100% ready... still dont want to play the end again.
Still depressed knowing even the work i put to getting to that makes no difference what so ever.

[spacefiddle]

Generic Name wrote...

spacefiddle wrote...

Mythandariel wrote...

Quick question. Has anyone just stood there after the kid stops his soliloquy? I mean just stood there and stared at the kid like you wanted his head mounted on the wall?

Yeah.  You lose the game.  Just auto-fail, no cutscene, just THE CRUCIBLE HAS BEEN DESTROYED in giant letters and resume/quit/scream menu comes up.  Uh, I may have hallucinated that last option

Still a better ending then what we got.

Hold the line.

You know... you're right.  If I'm doomed to die, and all the relationship-building and peacemaking and everything else was for nothing, I'm taking this damn godboi with me and the fleet can use my 6000 score to kick the Reapers' collective nonsensical butts.

Hold the line!

[Xion66]

I just got off the phone with a friend who just finished ME3, he only recently go got a gaming pc for the first in his life and asked me to lend him "the most engaging games i've ever played, i lent him my good old copies of ME and ME 2 for him to play

In just three weeks he played both the games( as an avid paragon) and rushed with me to buy a Collector's edition of ME 3, his first real collector's edition.

...

He was heartbroken, he didn't rage, he didn't even say he'd never play a Bioware game again, he just aked why or if I knew that deadlines compromsied the game development. It was a tough talk.

Modifié par Xion66, 14 mars 2012 - 03:33 .

[QwibQwib]

OniRogue wrote...

I have beaten ME3 today.

I was quite aware of the controversy about the ending, but I still wanted to experience it by myself. So I loaded my Infiltrator MaleShep dating back to ME1 and thoroughly enjoyed the ride. The Missions with old and new Companions, as well as the way earlier decisions were reflected sent me on an emotional rollercoaster; I laughed, I weeped and I gritted my teeth regularly and I loved it.

Then I arrived at "London".

I came with all Alliences I wanted to set up since they were hinted at in ME2. Geth are helping the Quarians out on Rannoch, Turians and Krogan worked together after I cured the Genophage and I aquired every asset possible in my Story. (Accumulating ~7200 TMS and with 91% Galactic Readiness I boasted an EMS of 6000+) I was ready to kick some Reaper ... Backsides. The Situation seemed fittingly grim. Ground troops were being pushed back and the success of the Mission seemed to be in Flux.

(At this point I assumed this would lead to a Situation akin to ME2 Suicide Mission: Reaching the Crucible and uploading some kind of Repear "Killswitch" while the "Assets" I got bought Time for this to happen. I hoped that this would work similar to thze aforementioned Suicide Mission. Depending on how good I did, I would see Companions live or die through tough Situations, I would see the Fleets pushing back the Reapers with varying losses. I expected something along those lines culminating in a "The more time I bought, the 'happier' the ending" -Scenario.)

What I got was a very obscure pick your poison Situation that just kept on confusing me. (I am aware of the "Indoctrination" theories, more on them later)
None of the choices PRESENTED at this point seemed to make any sense in the Story I played up until now. ReaperCreatorChildAbomination1 simply transported me to him and told me that his Solution failed. Fair Enough, time to tell him my Solution....

I thought. Instead the "I could be the Reaper Hivemind" Character told me what he thinks I should do. Why? He just told me his Solution failed and that he needed a new one, but somehow he can present me 3 Choices without giving it any thought? Stomaching even this I listened to his options.

• Control: Scratch that, I just made TIM kill himself after explaining that the Reapers could not be controlled.
• Merge: Yeah right so that the few Reapers that are maybe still waiting outside the edge of our Systems come swooping down and hit the overide on our now controlable Brains? I did not watch Legion Sacrifice himself to do the same mistake now; heck even Saren showed what comes out of this "great and peaceful" Synergy.
• Destroy: Finally the thing I came here for! But wait the Mass Relay and every other AI gets destroyed as well? Why that? Because he decrees it?

Contemplating what my Shepard would do, I then chose 3. Destroy. Which got everything the Catalyst told me. As Icing on the cake I saw the Normandy in the middle of a Jump, getting hit by the Pulse of Orange Destruction, stranding on some planet. What just happened here?

What happend during the whole ending Sequence? Playing these Games tought me one thing. Along with a few exceptions to this Rule, everyone who dies, every Situation that took a turn for the worse happened because I, the Player, did something wrong OR not at all.

Wrex Survival in ME1 depended on my choices. The success of the aforementioned Suicide Mission depended on my choices and action prior to that. I searched these Forums looking for what I did wrong! I thought that I failed the Game! I thought I missed something that warrants this "Bad Ending". This has nothing to do with the questions that amounted while experiencing the ending Sequence. It has everything to do with me expecting a good, a perfect Ending IF I did everything right.

But none of that happened (or can happen as I know now). Thats one Part of why I feel so hollow after this ending. It is fundamentaly different and in contrast to the first 2 Games. The way I could shape the Games abruptly stops to apply here.

The Second Part of my Disappointment stems from the lack of an epilogue. I was told to expect the definitive End of Shepards Story. But it simply stops. ME3 has its End, as much as I dislike it but were is the ending of the Trilogy that we were promised? This feels as if "The Lord of the Rings" ended with Frodo destroying the Ring, crawling out of the Mountain and then; Cut to the Credits, Thanks for watching!

The Fate of Shep and of his Companions were always interwoven, Characters that joined us on our journey and followed us to the End. (Our "Fellowship" for the sake of continuing the LotR analogy). I was not expecting an Epilogue spanning hours of COntent showing every thing that could possibly happen, but I wished for one last Gathering, one Last "Mission Accomplished" Scene before the Credits role, starring the Surviving Friends of Shep.

TL;DR:

This Game does not feel like the promised Conclusion to me, I think that this Ending is as ambigiuos as it could get, which does not fit with this kind of Story (Imo, of course)

IT CERTAINLY IS a great Game in a Series of great Games, but to me this is not the promised Conclusion but the "To be Continued" Version of it.

To Rectify my opening Statement:

Today ME3 has beaten me.

Welcome aboard. 

[ShepGep]

This ending made no sense whatsoever. The only one that makes sense is the hallucination theory of Shepard fighting indoctrination in his mind after being hit by Harbinger on Earth. Still though, even if that's true, there is absolutely no closure whatsoever. What really happened to our crewmates on Earth? The Normandy? The galaxy? We have no idea...just feels like a big slap in the face.

[soske aizen]

hey really dumb thing to ask but is there a link some where 4 the fleet banners?

[Computim]

soske aizen wrote...

hey really dumb thing to ask but is there a link some where 4 the fleet banners?

Search for Slasher's posts earlier in this thread.  He's got the links since he made them all

[Generic Name]

soske aizen wrote...

hey really dumb thing to ask but is there a link some where 4 the fleet banners?

http://s748.photobuc...fect/?start=all

[soske aizen]

Computim wrote...

soske aizen wrote...

hey really dumb thing to ask but is there a link some where 4 the fleet banners?

Search for Slasher's posts earlier in this thread.  He's got the links since he made them all

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