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Welsh Inferno wrote...

netarchy wrote...

RussianOrc wrote...

i think we can raise 20.000,00 dollars by thrusday


More than that I'd wager. B)


Well I just added $20 so its on its way fast:wizard:

Argh, how long realistically until BioWare give their word on this whole mess?

if at least one of us was a billionaire that could donate 1.000.000,00 Dollars uhauhauhauhau.
we would be on the first page of the NY times xD

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The bright side of this is that those who can donate are helping a worthy cause. Even if Bioware doesn't do anything I hope everyone feels good about giving money to help kids who really need it. Child's Play is a great charity, and I've never been prouder of the BSN!

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OniRogue wrote...

I have beaten ME3 today.

I was quite aware of the controversy about the ending, but I still wanted to experience it by myself. So I loaded my Infiltrator MaleShep dating back to ME1 and thoroughly enjoyed the ride. The Missions with old and new Companions, as well as the way earlier decisions were reflected sent me on an emotional rollercoaster; I laughed, I weeped and I gritted my teeth regularly and I loved it.

Then I arrived at "London".

I came with all Alliences I wanted to set up since they were hinted at in ME2. Geth are helping the Quarians out on Rannoch, Turians and Krogan worked together after I cured the Genophage and I aquired every asset possible in my Story. (Accumulating ~7200 TMS and with 91% Galactic Readiness I boasted an EMS of 6000+) I was ready to kick some Reaper ... Backsides. The Situation seemed fittingly grim. Ground troops were being pushed back and the success of the Mission seemed to be in Flux.

(At this point I assumed this would lead to a Situation akin to ME2 Suicide Mission: Reaching the Crucible and uploading some kind of Repear "Killswitch" while the "Assets" I got bought Time for this to happen. I hoped that this would work similar to thze aforementioned Suicide Mission. Depending on how good I did, I would see Companions live or die through tough Situations, I would see the Fleets pushing back the Reapers with varying losses. I expected something along those lines culminating in a "The more time I bought, the 'happier' the ending" -Scenario.)

What I got was a very obscure pick your poison Situation that just kept on confusing me. (I am aware of the "Indoctrination" theories, more on them later)
None of the choices PRESENTED at this point seemed to make any sense in the Story I played up until now. ReaperCreatorChildAbomination1 simply transported me to him and told me that his Solution failed. Fair Enough, time to tell him my Solution....

I thought. Instead the "I could be the Reaper Hivemind" Character told me what he thinks I should do. Why? He just told me his Solution failed and that he needed a new one, but somehow he can present me 3 Choices without giving it any thought? Stomaching even this I listened to his options.

1.Control: Scratch that, I just made TIM kill himself after explaining that the Reapers could not be controlled.

2.Merge: Yeah right so that the few Reapers that are maybe still waiting outside the edge of our Systems come swooping down and hit the overide on our now controlable Brains? I did not watch Legion Sacrifice himself to do the same mistake now; heck even Saren showed what comes out of this "great and peaceful" Synergy.

3.Destroy: Finally the thing I came here for! But wait the Mass Relay and every other AI gets destroyed as well? Why that? Because he decrees it?

Contemplating what my Shepard would do, I then chose 3. Destroy. Which got everything the Catalyst told me. As Icing on the cake I saw the Normandy in the middle of a Jump, getting hit by the Pulse of Orange Destruction, stranding on some planet. What just happened here?

What happend during the whole ending Sequence? Playing these Games tought me one thing. Along with a few exceptions to this Rule, everyone who dies, every Situation that took a turn for the worse happened because I, the Player, did something wrong OR not at all.

Wrex Survival in ME1 depended on my choices. The success of the aforementioned Suicide Mission depended on my choices and action prior to that. I searched these Forums looking for what I did wrong! I thought that I failed the Game! I thought I missed something that warrants this "Bad Ending". This has nothing to do with the questions that amounted while experiencing the ending Sequence. It has everything to do with me expecting a good, a perfect Ending IF I did everything right.

But none of that happened (or can happen as I know now). Thats one Part of why I feel so hollow after this ending. It is fundamentaly different and in contrast to the first 2 Games. The way I could shape the Games abruptly stops to apply here.

The Second Part of my Disappointment stems from the lack of an epilogue. I was told to expect the definitive End of Shepards Story. But it simply stops. ME3 has its End, as much as I dislike it but were is the ending of the Trilogy that we were promised? This feels as if "The Lord of the Rings" ended with Frodo destroying the Ring, crawling out of the Mountain and then; Cut to the Credits, Thanks for watching!

The Fate of Shep and of his Companions were always interwoven, Characters that joined us on our journey and followed us to the End. (Our "Fellowship" for the sake of continuing the LotR analogy). I was not expecting an Epilogue spanning hours of COntent showing every thing that could possibly happen, but I wished for one last Gathering, one Last "Mission Accomplished" Scene before the Credits role, starring the Surviving Friends of Shep.

TL;DR:

This Game does not feel like the promised Conclusion to me, I think that this Ending is as ambigiuos as it could get, which does not fit with this kind of Story (Imo, of course)

IT CERTAINLY IS a great Game in a Series of great Games, but to me this is not the promised Conclusion but the "To be Continued" Version of it.

To Rectify my opening Statement:

Today ME3 has beaten me. :bandit:


A long disertation but well said.

#26079
3rd-apex

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Have any of you read this brilliantly written article? It does a really good job of analyzing the ending while answering the haters and the lovers of the ME3 ending.

http://galacticpillo...nding-analysis/

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Digifi wrote...

Just finished...I'm kinda in a daze. I don't have really anything to say that somebody else hasn't already written. I'm fine with depressing. I'm ok with dark. I don't think depressing or dark are the problems I have with the ending. It just felt off and even though I'm trying really hard to be a fanboy and convince myself that I like it, I'm coming up short at the moment. So I guess I'll just say +1.


You should be upset with depressing and dark, if you played your character to get a postive, fulfilling ending.  Sure if you played dark shepard and you went the death or glory path, so be it, but there's nothing whatsoever wrong with wanting a positive ending after working so damn hard to make the universe a better place.  

That's the essance of "your choices matter" gameplay.

Don't let some pseudo-intellectual game review nerd tell you that you're less of a gamer because you don't want their dark, depressing ending.  If I want dark and depressing, I'll turn the damn game off and go back to work.  I busted my hump to make the universe a brighter place, and win the heart of the lovely lady, and slay the monstrous evil, I deserve an ending that at least acknowledges any of that.  I want the ending where I beat the reapers, save the galaxy, establish a new era of peace, have statues built in my honor, and ride off into the sunset with my girl fully intending to start / adopt a family, build a life, and grow old together.

Now if dark and depressing is your thing, that should be an option too, what's fair for one is fair for all.  I just don't like this need we all seem to have to apologize for wanting a choice appropriate ending.  One with closure, or (gasp) logic.

Just so you know I put my money where my mouth is, here's how I would end ME3.  tinyurl.com/88275wk  Read mine, post yours.

#26081
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Welsh Inferno wrote...

netarchy wrote...

RussianOrc wrote...

i think we can raise 20.000,00 dollars by thrusday


More than that I'd wager. B)


Well I just added $20 so its on its way fast:wizard:

Argh, how long realistically until BioWare give their word on this whole mess?


Well, most likely they're either hoping it's going to blow over or (more likely) frantically trying to figure out how much it will take to fix it, or (if they already have DLC that has the complete endings) making sure that there's nothing to further inflame the community in said 'endings'.

Personally, just reading today's stuff that's been floating around I'm really leaning towards Bioware may be having the complete ending in the final DLC and may have been planning it for a while.  I may be completely out to lunch and just wishful thinking but I'm going to assume that, he got hit by harbinger's beam and knocked out, and like the first part of the game where Shepard comes to after getting hit by the War Council's desk, he'll have to fight through the citadel (thereby making all our citadel war assets have a reasoning), turn out that his moment of unconsciousness might have SOME bearing on reality, and then in the end there'll be some sort of epic ending.. least that's what I'm hoping anyway haha.

Modifié par Computim, 14 mars 2012 - 03:47 .


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twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/179771741692895232

You guys, I just -

It's the winkies, I just can't deal. The official Mass Effect twitter can't stop using them either, and I just - it makes me so aggressive.

Somebody please help me get my perspective back. I need to go to bed, but I'm super agitated.  I just - can't tell if trolling, honest well-intentioned lack of understanding of the situation, or buying time by throwing body between fans and upper management.

#26083
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KaiserinKai wrote...

Generic Name wrote...

Well this just went down on Gamble's twitter.

http://twitter.com/#...768831584120834

Hold the line.


I laughed SO hard at that!

...Does this make me a bad person?

Oh Snap!

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#26085
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Ticonderoga117 wrote...

This! So much youtube win!

I know this link was posted earlier by someone, but this along with the Game Front article need to be spread!


I can't "this" this enough. :) That guy is awesome. That's the first time I've really laughed since Thursday. Thank you for that.

#26086
Welsh Inferno

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RussianOrc wrote...

if at least one of us was a billionaire that could donate 1.000.000,00 Dollars uhauhauhauhau.
we would be on the first page of the NY times xD


Hah. If only...

I totally would if I was some billionaire.

#26087
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krashofny90 wrote...

QwibQwib wrote...

Generic Name wrote...

Well this just went down on Gamble's twitter.

http://twitter.com/#...768831584120834

Hold the line.

I didn't like that, that guy was being disrespectful. They are human beings like us, they have feelings.

i just replied to that guy with
"@LostTurntable @GambleMike dude, not the way to handle this. the rest of us are actually being civil about this."



Thank you, good sir. It is much appreciated.

Modifié par LetsGoToMyHouse, 14 mars 2012 - 03:47 .


#26088
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I hope we hear something definante soon

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Ticonderoga117 wrote...

This! So much youtube win!

I know this link was posted earlier by someone, but this along with the Game Front article need to be spread!


I was just watching this when you posted it. So perfect. Who is this guy? I'm a fan now <3

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The Big Palooka wrote...

twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/179771741692895232

You guys, I just -

It's the winkies, I just can't deal. The official Mass Effect twitter can't stop using them either, and I just - it makes me so aggressive.

Somebody please help me get my perspective back. I need to go to bed, but I'm super agitated.  I just - can't tell if trolling, honest well-intentioned lack of understanding of the situation, or buying time by throwing body between fans and upper management.


I understand completely... I want to slap her across the face... I wouldn't but I want to.

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Dorfgonewild81 wrote...

G4TV Poll on liking Mass Effect 3 endings Update:


Not at all! - 84%
I did. It had the closure the series needed. - 2.4%
I'm not sure how to feel about the ending. - 6.1%
I haven't beaten it yet!!! - 7.5%

www.g4tv.com/thefeed/




I think Bioware takes that to mean that 84% of us aren't clever and/or mature enough to 'get' the endings.

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Dorfgonewild81 wrote...

G4TV Poll on liking Mass Effect 3 endings Update:


Not at all! - 84%
I did. It had the closure the series needed. - 2.4%
I'm not sure how to feel about the ending. - 6.1%
I haven't beaten it yet!!! - 7.5%

www.g4tv.com/thefeed/


Wow that is changing fast. Come on people lets stick to our guns, we can win. We can save ME.

Hold. The. Line. 

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Darth_Acheron47 wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

This! So much youtube win!

I know this link was posted earlier by someone, but this along with the Game Front article need to be spread!


I can't "this" this enough. :) That guy is awesome. That's the first time I've really laughed since Thursday. Thank you for that.


Just clicked the link and youtube opened to a ME3 ad.

<_<

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The Big Palooka wrote...

twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/179771741692895232

You guys, I just -

It's the winkies, I just can't deal. The official Mass Effect twitter can't stop using them either, and I just - it makes me so aggressive.

Somebody please help me get my perspective back. I need to go to bed, but I'm super agitated.  I just - can't tell if trolling, honest well-intentioned lack of understanding of the situation, or buying time by throwing body between fans and upper management.


Just pretend that you went renegade and poked them in the eye and they're not winking, they're just nursing a sore eye ;)

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Annaleah wrote...

KaiserinKai wrote...

Generic Name wrote...

Well this just went down on Gamble's twitter.

http://twitter.com/#...768831584120834

Hold the line.


I laughed SO hard at that!

...Does this make me a bad person?


Probably... but that doesn't mean I didn't giggle at it too... 


Yeah I hate to admit it but the guy kinda said what I was thinking lol.

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Stygian1 wrote...

Dorfgonewild81 wrote...

G4TV Poll on liking Mass Effect 3 endings Update:


Not at all! - 84%
I did. It had the closure the series needed. - 2.4%
I'm not sure how to feel about the ending. - 6.1%
I haven't beaten it yet!!! - 7.5%

www.g4tv.com/thefeed/


Wow that is changing fast. Come on people lets stick to our guns, we can win. We can save ME.

Hold. The. Line. 


It won't let me vote no matter what...:crying:

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I have to say I am so proud to be holding the line, 12k in one day, there are no words, we WILL hold the line.

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Darkspazztic

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Copperbolt wrote...

I have to say I am so proud to be holding the line, 12k in one day, there are no words, we WILL hold the line.


And in the years to come we will be remembered as the ones that HELD THE LINE!

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Fox544 wrote...

Annaleah wrote...

KaiserinKai wrote...

Generic Name wrote...

Well this just went down on Gamble's twitter.

http://twitter.com/#...768831584120834

Hold the line.


I laughed SO hard at that!

...Does this make me a bad person?


Probably... but that doesn't mean I didn't giggle at it too... 


Yeah I hate to admit it but the guy kinda said what I was thinking lol.


I now we all are upset. But renegade choices won't help

#26100
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Darkspazztic wrote...

Copperbolt wrote...

I have to say I am so proud to be holding the line, 12k in one day, there are no words, we WILL hold the line.


And in the years to come we will be remembered as the ones that HELD THE LINE!

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