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[Nilofeliu]

ld1449 wrote...

The ones in the right do not shout. They don't need to. They speak to be heard. don't rage Niofeliu

Right now, it's hard to contain my disdain for those people, but I didn't post there, and I shall not..

Thankfully I have this brotherhood here that suffers as I do, otherwise I had to rely purely  on the media industry for answers and confort, I would have punched my screen already...

Modifié par Nilofeliu, 14 mars 2012 - 06:41 .

[KHReborn]

Nilofeliu wrote...

Please, please, let me rage against these two articles from kotaku...

http://kotaku.com/58...o-mass-effect-3

http://www.kotaku.co...ver-be-changed/

Self serving arrogant pompous..... 

Pardon my French, but these were just too much...

Stay calm. HOLD THE LINE!

That's OUR reputation ppl put on risk when raging against these things. There are a lot of articles supporting us so stay calm.

I know it's hard, but try to stay calm.

[Generic Name]

dfstone wrote...

There are 16 different endings, however. Depending on if you imported an ME2 save or not and how high your readiness score is at the end. And some blogs have hinted that there may be a hidden 17th ending that you can only see after completing a new game +. But I dunno if thats true or not. Still, based on what i've seen in my game and what I've read, all 16 endings seem very similar. There's still no closure, the ship still crashes on some weird planet, and hardly anything that you've done up to that point is reflected in any of them.

Maybe someone can confirm if there is some hidden ending in the game that only appears after a new game +? I kinda suspect there might be. My paragon score was only half way up the bar and I was still able to talk down the illusive man and save Anderson so it made me wonder what happens if the paragon is al the way at the top? And it seems like the only way to get it there is to do a new game plus because you can max out your reputation but there doesn't seem to be enough paragon points to max the whole thing in one play-thru.

The hidden ending is Shepard inhaling after you choose 'Destroy'.

[Copperbolt]

Though we are belittled and mocked, though we are called entitled and whiny, I will continue to hold the line, and I am proud to stand besides you, brothers and sisters, no amount of Kotaku smugness, or the dismissive nature of others can take away the pride I have for this community and what we have and will accomplish, because we will hold the line! Seriously gonna make a T-Shirt.

[Tyranniac]

Alright, just came back, glad to see you're still holding the line!

Remember:
1. No infighting. We have to remain united!
2. Stay civil. We don't want to be percieved the wrong way!
3. Stay focused. We have to remain on-topic!
4. Don't give up hope!

[Jackal7713]

Nilofeliu wrote...

Please, please, let me rage against these two articles from kotaku...

http://kotaku.com/58...o-mass-effect-3

http://www.kotaku.co...ver-be-changed/

Self serving arrogant pompous..... 

Pardon my French, but these were just too much...

Jackal7713 wrote...

dfstone wrote...

I played the ending again tonight and I can see where people are upset. All the decisions you made across 3 games boil down to 3 very similar choices. Although I'm more of a the journey is more exciting then the destination kinda person so I don't see it as being devestating. More disappointing. The ending felt very rushed. As if they forgot where they were going and tried frantically to put the ship back on course.

See I don't get it. Bioware says in countless interviews ME 3 will have closure and your choice will mater. One forced ending thats 95% the same as all the others is not choice. Nor does it count as 16 different endings. And if by closure they ment having everyone dead, yea that could count AS EVERYONE BEING DEAD!

It has closure, don't you see? Bioware refuses to comment on it, EA just ignores it, and most of the gaming sites is against us because they are funded by the gaming industry. In other words.. We are f... and case closed..

It seems that's all we are going to get...

I noticed it took someone else to quote CH:

Direct quote from Casey Hudson:
“Yeah, and I’d say much more so, because we have the ability to build the endings out in a way that we don’t have to worry about eventually tying them back together somewhere. This story arc is coming to an end  with this game. That means the endings can be a lot more different. At  this point we’re taking into account so many decisions that you’ve made as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.
“It’s more like there are some really obvious things that are different and then lots and lots of smaller things, lots of things about who lives and who dies, civilizations that rose and fell, all the way down to individual characters. That becomes the state of where you left your galaxy. The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in them.”

Now I would say that is a outright lie right there.

Modifié par Jackal7713, 14 mars 2012 - 06:43 .

[spacefiddle]

Generic Name wrote...
The hidden ending is Shepard inhaling after you choose 'Destroy'.

I will not.  Sacrifice.  The Geth.

[sumo390]

KHReborn wrote...

Nilofeliu wrote...

Please, please, let me rage against these two articles from kotaku...

http://kotaku.com/58...o-mass-effect-3

http://www.kotaku.co...ver-be-changed/

Self serving arrogant pompous..... 

Pardon my French, but these were just too much...

Stay calm. HOLD THE LINE!

That's OUR reputation ppl put on risk when raging against these things. There are a lot of articles supporting us so stay calm.

I know it's hard, but try to stay calm.

Yes, focus on those articles that share our thoughts, no need to waste time on the negative.

[RomanDark]

I'm really getting tired of the reporters that are bashing us without finishing the game

[Generic Name]

spacefiddle wrote...

Generic Name wrote...
The hidden ending is Shepard inhaling after you choose 'Destroy'.

I will not.  Sacrifice.  The Geth.

I quit at that point as my Shepard would not make any of those choices.

[MrJu1c3]

I gotta get some sleep. Keep holding the line!

[Twilight_Princess]

I'm glad there's such a united opinion about this considering how diverse the fans are. I hope we get an ending that makes all the playtime and choices mean something.

[sumo390]

Jackal7713 wrote...

Nilofeliu wrote...

Please, please, let me rage against these two articles from kotaku...

http://kotaku.com/58...o-mass-effect-3

http://www.kotaku.co...ver-be-changed/

Self serving arrogant pompous..... 

Pardon my French, but these were just too much...

Jackal7713 wrote...

dfstone wrote...

I played the ending again tonight and I can see where people are upset. All the decisions you made across 3 games boil down to 3 very similar choices. Although I'm more of a the journey is more exciting then the destination kinda person so I don't see it as being devestating. More disappointing. The ending felt very rushed. As if they forgot where they were going and tried frantically to put the ship back on course.

See I don't get it. Bioware says in countless interviews ME 3 will have closure and your choice will mater. One forced ending thats 95% the same as all the others is not choice. Nor does it count as 16 different endings. And if by closure they ment having everyone dead, yea that could count AS EVERYONE BEING DEAD!

It has closure, don't you see? Bioware refuses to comment on it, EA just ignores it, and most of the gaming sites is against us because they are funded by the gaming industry. In other words.. We are f... and case closed..

It seems that's all we are going to get...

I noticed it took someone else to quote CH:

Direct quote from Casey Hudson:
“Yeah, and I’d say much more so, because we have the ability to build
the endings out in a way that we don’t have to worry about eventually
tying them back together somewhere. This story arc is coming to an end
with this game. That means the endings can be a lot more different. At
this point we’re taking into account so many decisions that you’ve made
as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It’s not even in any way
like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings
there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.
“It’s more like there are some really obvious things that are
different and then lots and lots of smaller things, lots of things about
who lives and who dies, civilizations that rose and fell, all the way
down to individual characters. That becomes the state of where you left
your galaxy. The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in
them.”

Now I would say that is a outright lie right there.

There was an image posted earlier today that placed A, B, and C on the 3 colored beams, was a nice find.

[Inanna Athanasia]

dfstone wrote...

I played the ending again tonight and I can see where people are upset. All the decisions you made across 3 games boil down to 3 very similar choices. Although I'm more of a the journey is more exciting then the destination kinda person so I don't see it as being devestating. More disappointing. The ending felt very rushed. As if they forgot where they were going and tried frantically to put the ship back on course.

So I was telling myself to get off the boards and go to bed, but had to respond to this...just one more post, really....

I agree with this more then anything else I have read. I never thought about it till now, but this really is what I see too. It felt like they just decided to throw something in fast and sloppy to make an ending. Like they ran out of time. Thanks dfstone for putting it into words to sum up what I was feeling without understanding what it was I was feeling.....thats a lot of feelings in that sentence...yep time for me to get to bed, I am stumbling on words now....

[Aztlanna]

dfstone wrote...
Maybe someone can confirm if there is some hidden ending in the game that only appears after a new game +? I kinda suspect there might be. My paragon score was only half way up the bar and I was still able to talk down the illusive man and save Anderson so it made me wonder what happens if the paragon is al the way at the top? And it seems like the only way to get it there is to do a new game plus because you can max out your reputation but there doesn't seem to be enough paragon points to max the whole thing in one play-thru.

To the best of my knowledge, the only "hidden" NG+ ending is the one on destroy where Shep takes a breath in the rubble, if your EMS is high enough. But you can get that on first play through if you imported a toon.

[Naked David]

To be honest I liked the ending, but I do feel shorted by the fact that out of the HUNDREDS of hours I put into Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2 that none of my decisions really made a difference. I liked the fact that the Citadel and the Mass Relays were destroyed. It made sence and I'm excited to see what Bioware has in store for a sequel with all the races stranded on Earth. I was never expecting to get a happy hunkey dory ending while trying to destroy something that had been cleansing the galaxy of advanced organic life for god knows how long. Sacrafice and Victory was enough.

Its not the ending that bothers me, it seems like its just laziness on some parts of the game that really irks me.

1. What was up with the romances? Tali/Garrus/Miranda/Chobot/Jack didnt even have a scene and only getting that photoshopped picture of Tali was a fat load. Ashley and Liara are the only viable romances. And underwear in the shower? ROFL

2. I enjoy multiplayer but only 1 game type and you have to play it in order to get your readiness up? And buying packs of pokemon cards to get the stuff you want in multiplayer is lame. Along with the ability to buy it for MS points.

3. LET MORDIN FINISH HIS SONG. 

Modifié par Naked David, 14 mars 2012 - 07:01 .

[RedTail F22]

I've never been active on the Bioware Forums but I have been a HUGE Mass Effect fan since the start and I will gladly do whatever is necessary to help get us fans the ending we all wanted, expected, and deserved.

Im still heart broken after beating Mass Effect knowing that every hour I put into Mass Effect just felt wasted. The game was very well done imo up until the end. There were other parts of the game I felt could've been handled better but as long as the ending is done properly I will be able to move on in life. It was just soo dissapointing/ depressing. Just my opinion though, no need to go spreading it around.

[WarBaby2]

KHReborn wrote...

Stay calm. HOLD THE LINE!

That's OUR reputation ppl put on risk when raging against these things. There are a lot of articles supporting us so stay calm.

I know it's hard, but try to stay calm.

True, they are just riding the wave... forget it.

[Jackal7713]

sumo390 wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

Nilofeliu wrote...

Please, please, let me rage against these two articles from kotaku...

http://kotaku.com/58...o-mass-effect-3

http://www.kotaku.co...ver-be-changed/

Self serving arrogant pompous..... 

Pardon my French, but these were just too much...

Jackal7713 wrote...

dfstone wrote...

I played the ending again tonight and I can see where people are upset. All the decisions you made across 3 games boil down to 3 very similar choices. Although I'm more of a the journey is more exciting then the destination kinda person so I don't see it as being devestating. More disappointing. The ending felt very rushed. As if they forgot where they were going and tried frantically to put the ship back on course.

See I don't get it. Bioware says in countless interviews ME 3 will have closure and your choice will mater. One forced ending thats 95% the same as all the others is not choice. Nor does it count as 16 different endings. And if by closure they ment having everyone dead, yea that could count AS EVERYONE BEING DEAD!

It has closure, don't you see? Bioware refuses to comment on it, EA just ignores it, and most of the gaming sites is against us because they are funded by the gaming industry. In other words.. We are f... and case closed..

It seems that's all we are going to get...

I noticed it took someone else to quote CH:

Direct quote from Casey Hudson:
“Yeah, and I’d say much more so, because we have the ability to build
the endings out in a way that we don’t have to worry about eventually
tying them back together somewhere. This story arc is coming to an end
with this game. That means the endings can be a lot more different. At
this point we’re taking into account so many decisions that you’ve made
as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It’s not even in any way
like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings
there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.
“It’s more like there are some really obvious things that are
different and then lots and lots of smaller things, lots of things about
who lives and who dies, civilizations that rose and fell, all the way
down to individual characters. That becomes the state of where you left
your galaxy. The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in
them.”

Now I would say that is a outright lie right there.

There was an image posted earlier today that placed A, B, and C on the 3 colored beams, was a nice find.

classic!

[sumo390]

Aztlanna wrote...

dfstone wrote...
Maybe someone can confirm if there is some hidden ending in the game that only appears after a new game +? I kinda suspect there might be. My paragon score was only half way up the bar and I was still able to talk down the illusive man and save Anderson so it made me wonder what happens if the paragon is al the way at the top? And it seems like the only way to get it there is to do a new game plus because you can max out your reputation but there doesn't seem to be enough paragon points to max the whole thing in one play-thru.

To the best of my knowledge, the only "hidden" NG+ ending is the one on destroy where Shep takes a breath in the rubble, if your EMS is high enough. But you can get that on first play through if you imported a toon.

I've read around the forums that EMS should be >4000 to get the Shep breath ending, however I have not actually played the ending again so I'm not entirely sure.

[Gau]

sumo390 wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

Nilofeliu wrote...

Please, please, let me rage against these two articles from kotaku...

http://kotaku.com/58...o-mass-effect-3

http://www.kotaku.co...ver-be-changed/

Self serving arrogant pompous..... 

Pardon my French, but these were just too much...

Jackal7713 wrote...

dfstone wrote...

I played the ending again tonight and I can see where people are upset. All the decisions you made across 3 games boil down to 3 very similar choices. Although I'm more of a the journey is more exciting then the destination kinda person so I don't see it as being devestating. More disappointing. The ending felt very rushed. As if they forgot where they were going and tried frantically to put the ship back on course.

See I don't get it. Bioware says in countless interviews ME 3 will have closure and your choice will mater. One forced ending thats 95% the same as all the others is not choice. Nor does it count as 16 different endings. And if by closure they ment having everyone dead, yea that could count AS EVERYONE BEING DEAD!

It has closure, don't you see? Bioware refuses to comment on it, EA just ignores it, and most of the gaming sites is against us because they are funded by the gaming industry. In other words.. We are f... and case closed..

It seems that's all we are going to get...

I noticed it took someone else to quote CH:

Direct quote from Casey Hudson:
“Yeah, and I’d say much more so, because we have the ability to build
the endings out in a way that we don’t have to worry about eventually
tying them back together somewhere. This story arc is coming to an end
with this game. That means the endings can be a lot more different. At
this point we’re taking into account so many decisions that you’ve made
as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It’s not even in any way
like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings
there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.
“It’s more like there are some really obvious things that are
different and then lots and lots of smaller things, lots of things about
who lives and who dies, civilizations that rose and fell, all the way
down to individual characters. That becomes the state of where you left
your galaxy. The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in
them.”

Now I would say that is a outright lie right there.

There was an image posted earlier today that placed A, B, and C on the 3 colored beams, was a nice find.

Hudosn Quote:
http://www.oxm.co.uk...-sophisticated/



.. keep holding the line

Modifié par Gau, 14 mars 2012 - 06:47 .

[dfstone]

Generic Name wrote...

dfstone wrote...

There are 16 different endings, however. Depending on if you imported an ME2 save or not and how high your readiness score is at the end. And some blogs have hinted that there may be a hidden 17th ending that you can only see after completing a new game +. But I dunno if thats true or not. Still, based on what i've seen in my game and what I've read, all 16 endings seem very similar. There's still no closure, the ship still crashes on some weird planet, and hardly anything that you've done up to that point is reflected in any of them.

Maybe someone can confirm if there is some hidden ending in the game that only appears after a new game +? I kinda suspect there might be. My paragon score was only half way up the bar and I was still able to talk down the illusive man and save Anderson so it made me wonder what happens if the paragon is al the way at the top? And it seems like the only way to get it there is to do a new game plus because you can max out your reputation but there doesn't seem to be enough paragon points to max the whole thing in one play-thru.

The hidden ending is Shepard inhaling after you choose 'Destroy'.

No I've already seen the inhale one, that seems to factor on how high your military strength score is.  I just notice that the 2 "social" meters, paragon/renegade and reputation, have an oddity with them.  Reputation can be maxed but Paragon/Renegade cannot on a single play thru.  After starting a new game+, even with max reputation my paragon bar is still going up even though I picked all the paragon options on my first play thru.  So it made me wonder if there is more going on then you can see in 1 play thru regardless of if you imported a character or not.

[Rolling Flame]

RomanDark wrote...

I'm really getting tired of the reporters that are bashing us without finishing the game

Yeah, I noticed that in a couple of instances. Just ignore them. We have a lot of support on our side.

[Esker02]

Nilofeliu wrote...

Please, please, let me rage against these two articles from kotaku...

http://kotaku.com/58...o-mass-effect-3

http://www.kotaku.co...ver-be-changed/

Self serving arrogant pompous..... 

Pardon my French, but these were just too much...

The first one is just disrespectful. Almost unimaginably so. The charitable donations were made in an attempt to show that there was no sense of entitlement rampant amongst those unhappy with the endings, instead, the article claims it was done in an effort to garner some kind of "right to demand." It's beyond poor taste, and in that regard, is particularly telling.

The second one is nonsense. What people don't understand is that there is something *unique* not just about video games, not even just about story driven RPGs generally, but about Mass Effect, that makes it particularly open to this kind of community response. In fact, the community has played a part prospectively in the direction that the narrative has taken at times, particularly in relation to LIs. Crossing the boundary in retrospective reaction isn't that outlandish when you look at the fundamental betrayal that the ending as it is now represents to everything decent about the ME series. To that end, this article still does the best job exploring those issues, IMO.

But beyond that, it's always been "our story too." BioWare has always made that clear. For 1% of the final game in the trilogy, BioWare seems to have forgotten that... we're just asking they fix it.

Hold the line though, guys. I'm off to sleep.

[Jackal7713]

WarBaby2 wrote...

KHReborn wrote...

Stay calm. HOLD THE LINE!

That's OUR reputation ppl put on risk when raging against these things. There are a lot of articles supporting us so stay calm.

I know it's hard, but try to stay calm.

True, they are just riding the wave... forget it.

I wouldn't say its a wave he riding.