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[Annaleah]

Also, for people just returning after a while... Do not look at Kotaku it will only make you mad.

[NPH11]

Man, almost 4 AM here. Where do the hours go?

Not tired at all though. Gonna watch some Cinema Snob and then maybe I'll actually feel like playing ME3.

I know I shouldn't, but I know a guy who lives and breathes Mass Effect and he'll be profoundly disappointed if I'm not ready to talk about it when school starts up again on Monday.

Modifié par NPH11, 14 mars 2012 - 07:53 .

[ArmyKnifeX]

Annaleah wrote...

LouTenant wrote...

zarnk567 wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

europe here, what's the news after 100+ pages? Oo

Casey, Basically saying the endings are works of pure genius.....

He never said he wasn't going to fix them though... did he?

If he thinks the current endings are pure genious then I don't want to see what his idea of fixing them is.

Also I'm putting my money on the first DLC being Mako DLC.

[lex0r11]

zarnk567 wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

europe here, what's the news after 100+ pages? Oo

Casey, Basically saying the endings are works of pure genius.....

but..?
100% proof that the 'real-ending' through indoctrination patch theory is smashed?
like after japan release?

[TumblingBumblebee]

.. and I wake up just to find out more reviews against us popped up =.= sigh 

Last one I read ended up having me post a hurtful reply which I had to apologize for, after I realized how stupid I had been. Let's stay calm! Anger is our enemy! We are strong because we are true... not because we are mad.

As for the people criticizing the charity... well I can't say much against them. While all the money raised is awesome and for a good cause, I can kind of agree with those who said it wasn't such a good idea to use this as what, basically, is an ad for our protest... but I doubt those kids will give a damn about why they received all those funds.

Let's keep fighting! I doubt we'll get a real answer earlier than next week... I hope the fire will keep burning!

[LouTenant]

Annaleah wrote...

He never said he wasn't going to fix them though... did he?

And that's the only hope we have right now.

[Annaleah]

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

Annaleah wrote...

LouTenant wrote...

zarnk567 wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

europe here, what's the news after 100+ pages? Oo

Casey, Basically saying the endings are works of pure genius.....

He never said he wasn't going to fix them though... did he?

If he thinks the current endings are pure genious then I don't want to see what his idea of fixing them is.

Also I'm putting my money on the first DLC being Mako DLC.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

USKnight25 wrote...

Reposting this for my late night brethren.



I know we're all feeling this way, but I agree, let's be civil. We want a ending to Shepard's story. We're here, united in our love of this game and the characters we grew to love.

Retake Mass Effect with me. And the forum poster above me... And the guy who posts after this....

Just read that article, I get where the autor is coming from about artistic expression and integrity and all that but that seems to be the problem, the people writing these articles look at the game as art, while I think of it more like a vehicle,

sure an artist designed and programmed the vehicle but at the end of the day I'm the one experiencing it. if you bought a car and it came with a full tank of gas and you drove that car as far as it could get and loved the ride and enjoyed nearly all of it but once your gas light came on your engine caught fire, would you feel compelled to demand the manufacturer change that? "Not letting hit empty" isn't a fix it is a cover just like "well don't play the ending" 

I'm not upset about the ride, that was great, I'm upset that my engine caught fire once it was all over.

It was certainly an unforgettable ride, especially the end there where it all went to hell. Consumer faith is lost

1 am, can't spell or use puncuation...Hold....The...Line.

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 14 mars 2012 - 08:00 .

[Bachi1230]

This is how I feel the majority of the game media is reacting to people upset with the endings...

[PhoenixDove1]

LethesDeep wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

europe here, what's the news after 100+ pages? Oo

Kotaku has insulted us for taking advantage of all the organization to donate to Child's Play.
link: http://kotaku.com/58...o-mass-effect-3

Hudson has given an interview saying he wanted the endings to not be forgotten (we don't known when this interview was taken though).
Link: http://www.vg247.com...gle-player-dlc/

Gamefront has an article detailing why we are "in the right" for hating the ending.
Link: http://www.gamefront...fans-are-right/

Lots of youtube vids supporting us.

So nothing new really.

And Forbes has written another article about how upsetting the consumer this much is not good for business and they weigh in on the endings in our favor.

+1 Forbes

[beebeenz]

Annaleah wrote...

Also, for people just returning after a while... Do not look at Kotaku it will only make you mad.

thats the effect it had on me! but there were more than a few comments calling out the BS, then a few more just flaming. i just dont see how its not obvious how objectively these endings fail, wrapping it up in the magical handwavium of "creative integrity" doesnt change that. THEY ARE BROKEN, FIX IT.

[lex0r11]

LethesDeep wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

europe here, what's the news after 100+ pages? Oo

Kotaku has insulted us for taking advantage of all the organization to donate to Child's Play.
link: http://kotaku.com/58...o-mass-effect-3

Hudson has given an interview saying he wanted the endings to not be forgotten (we don't known when this interview was taken though).
Link: http://www.vg247.com...gle-player-dlc/

Gamefront has an article detailing why we are "in the right" for hating the ending.
Link: http://www.gamefront...fans-are-right/

Lots of youtube vids supporting us.

So nothing new really.

who cares what kotaku is doing?
imagine someone headbutting kotaku and the krogan shaman going: "ha! the human understands!"

[KHReborn]

Bachi1230 wrote...

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This is how I feel the majority of the game media is reacting to people upset with the endings...

I lol'd.

[spacefiddle]

I'm wondering how traumatic this would have been if Deus Ex hadn't kicked me in the Augments.

I'm sure I'd still be honked off at thinking I paid for a complete game when I clearly didn't - but after the identical preachy nonendings of DE, I don't think there was any other way for me to perceive what just happened in ME3. Without DE, would I have first thought "hmm, this can't be the end, cliffhanger?"

Instead, my first thought was more like OMFG ANOTHER ONE?

Bioware didn't design this last week. I wonder if DE's epic fail kicked them in the quads as much as us. Still - and again and again and again - cryptic tweets do not make up for shipping an incomplete game. Communicate with us. If I knew, before starting the game, that the end would be subject to further content, I would have been more than fine with that, I'd be excited. Instead, your adherence to corporate-standard "reveal nothing" doctrine has blown up in all our faces.

Edit: Bioware, maybe you don't believe the customer when they tell you what's good business practice.  How about Forbes?

Modifié par spacefiddle, 14 mars 2012 - 07:58 .

[beebeenz]

Bachi1230 wrote...



This is how I feel the majority of the game media is reacting to people upset with the endings...

THIS. IS. SUPERB.

[ArmyKnifeX]

spacefiddle wrote...

I'm wondering how traumatic this would have been if Deus Ex hadn't kicked me in the Augments.

I'm sure I'd still be honked off at thinking I paid for a complete game when I clearly didn't - but after the identical preachy nonendings of DE, I don't think there was any other way for me to perceive what just happened in ME3. Without DE, would I have first thought "hmm, this can't be the end, cliffhanger?"

Instead, my first thought was more like OMFG ANOTHER ONE?

Bioware didn't design this last week. I wonder if DE's epic fail kicked them in the quads as much as us. Still - and again and again and again - cryptic tweets do not make up for shipping an incomplete game. Communicate with us. If I knew, before starting the game, that the end would be subject to further content, I would have been more than fine with that, I'd be excited. Instead, your adherence to corporate-standard "reveal nothing" doctrine has blown up in all our faces.

The only reason I escaped being upset over the Deus Ex ending was how little I cared about it. I think that's the position people who don't dislike the ending come from. That's just a wild guess, though, and I don't want to overgeneralize.

[LethesDeep]

lex0r11 wrote...

who cares what kotaku is doing?
imagine someone headbutting kotaku and the krogan shaman going: "ha! the human understands!"

*imagines it* ...I feel better now.

[416]

Good morning BSN, anything yet?

[PhoenixDove1]

spacefiddle wrote...

Bioware didn't design this last week. I wonder if DE's epic fail kicked them in the quads as much as us. Still - and again and again and again - cryptic tweets do not make up for shipping an incomplete game. Communicate with us. If I knew, before starting the game, that the end would be subject to further content, I would have been more than fine with that, I'd be excited. Instead, your adherence to corporate-standard "reveal nothing" doctrine has blown up in all our faces.

Edit: Bioware, maybe you don't believe the customer when they tell you what's good business practice.  How about Forbes?

This.  If feels like we're being patted on the head and directed back to bed.

[Bachi1230]

spacefiddle wrote...

I'm wondering how traumatic this would have been if Deus Ex hadn't kicked me in the Augments.

I'm sure I'd still be honked off at thinking I paid for a complete game when I clearly didn't - but after the identical preachy nonendings of DE, I don't think there was any other way for me to perceive what just happened in ME3. Without DE, would I have first thought "hmm, this can't be the end, cliffhanger?"

Instead, my first thought was more like OMFG ANOTHER ONE?

Bioware didn't design this last week. I wonder if DE's epic fail kicked them in the quads as much as us. Still - and again and again and again - cryptic tweets do not make up for shipping an incomplete game. Communicate with us. If I knew, before starting the game, that the end would be subject to further content, I would have been more than fine with that, I'd be excited. Instead, your adherence to corporate-standard "reveal nothing" doctrine has blown up in all our faces.

Edit: Bioware, maybe you don't believe the customer when they tell you what's good business practice.  How about Forbes?

Funny enough when DE did this I was ok with it since

1.  They did it WAY better than what Bioware did.
2.  The Ultimantium wasn't a punishment.
3.  It fit with the theme of the game.
4.  I like Adams voice in his monologues

[rizengrad]

And this is how I see all the endings now, no matter how many assets I have:

[spacefiddle]

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

The only reason I escaped being upset over the Deus Ex ending was how little I cared about it. I think that's the position people who don't dislike the ending come from. That's just a wild guess, though, and I don't want to overgeneralize.

the DE "endings" also had technical issues - preachy, almost identical voiceovers while crappy lowrez stock video footage plays, party like it's 1992 - but yeah, getting up there and seeing three buttons - including a definite "just kill yourself' option - as soon as  I saw the three platforms, OH HELL NO.  With the godvoice telling you "so now choose the ending!  Even though you thought that's what, you know, the rest of the three games you just played were for!" <_<

Some people will find the 2001 ending to their liking, genuinely.  It might be detachment or lack of emotional investment, or they may be fans of classic 50s scifi Adam and Eve stories, who knows.  I don't want to discount their like any more than they can legitimately discount our dissatisfaction, but.... the poll.  Forty thousand people, a week after release.  I'd call that statistically significant: regardless of intent, the delivery method failed.  What can fix it now is communication.  Kick the execs in the butts and get approvals to SPEAK to us already.

[CDHarrisUSF]

TumblingBumblebee wrote...

As for the people criticizing the charity... well I can't say much against them. While all the money raised is awesome and for a good cause, I can kind of agree with those who said it wasn't such a good idea to use this as what, basically, is an ad for our protest... but I doubt those kids will give a damn about why they received all those funds.

I can understand the sentiment, but I choose to look at it like this: It shows that the people in the protest are, at the very least, decent and generous people. It shows that it's not about the money. If we need to pay them for their effort to fix the ending, we are willing to put our money where our mouth is to make it happen. More importantly, it creates a situation in which, no matter what happens, something good will come from it. If the ending of Mass Effect 3 never changes, at least we helped a deserving cause in the process.

Modifié par CDHarrisUSF, 14 mars 2012 - 08:07 .

[PhoenixDove1]

Well, I'm off to bed, have to go to work soon, I'm really starting to mess up my sleep schedule.

We will hold the line!

[zarnk567]

No, one should ever take Kotaku seriously they are the joke of the gaming community.... and for them to insult us fans who are raising money for charity.... I have never seen Kotaku do a single good thing for anyone let alone charity

Modifié par zarnk567, 14 mars 2012 - 08:07 .