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Geda173 wrote...

For the Germans:

http://www.gamestar....51,2565786.html

Accordin to Gamestar Bioware is happy with the ending and they are not going to change it.


It's the same like the pcgames article. It's only a translated too long to read version of the vgn article posted here some hours before.

Modifié par KHReborn, 14 mars 2012 - 11:36 .


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rizengrad wrote...

Skyrim doesn't end.

...

Seriously.

Sure, it doesn't "end" in the same way that many sandbox games don't "end." You can keep playing, but there isn't much to do. That isn't to say that its main quest line doesn't have a definite end. It does. It's much more fitting and satisfying than the ending of ME3. I don't count the boring randomly generated quests as the game lasting forever, because they're so inconsequential that they might as well not exist. Their level of quality doesn't match the rest of the game at all.

Modifié par CDHarrisUSF, 14 mars 2012 - 11:38 .


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I think its not too late for BioWare to make hallucination/indocrination theory canon and resolve the ending with DLC... This way they can save some face.

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Rappeldrache wrote...

Geda173 wrote...

For the Germans:

http://www.gamestar....51,2565786.html

Accordin to Gamestar Bioware is happy with the ending and they are not going to change it.



I can't write this in english, sorry. *shame* Sorry, sorry, sorry:

Ja, es ist tatsächlich ein Ende welches "viel besprochen" werden wird: Als eine der größten Frechheiten die sich eine Gamer-Firma jemals erlaubt hat. Als eine schallende Ohrfeige für jeden Spieler, für jeden Käufer.

Übrigens: Sollten die tatsächlich einen kostenpflichtigen DLC herausbringen (mit anderen, alternativen Enden), dann wären sie gut beraten den GESAMTEN Gewinn der Kinderhilfe zu spenden. DAS wäre wenigstens eine Möglichkeit mit nur einem gebrochenen Bein aus der Sache rauszukommen.

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Google Translate says it's something like...

"Yes, there actually is an end which will be "much discussed": One of the biggest insults the company has a gamer ever allowed. As a slap in the face of every player for every buyer.

By the way: If the release actually a paid DLC (with other, alternative endings), would then get them ALL the profits of the children help to donate. THAT would be at least one way with only a broken leg from the thing to get out."

Is it slightly close? The grammer's a bit lost here and there, but I think we'd get the meaning, except in the second half.

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BioWare stated there would be 16 different endings. Different means 'not the same' BioWare. You know, technically this is enough for a lawsuit. Because you claim the game contains something it doesn't, and you refuse to deliver. I would not be surprised of someone already filed a case against you. For real.

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CDHarrisUSF wrote...

rizengrad wrote...

Skyrim doesn't end.

...

Seriously.

Sure, it doesn't "end" in the same way that many sandbox games don't "end." That isn't to say that its main quest line doesn't have a definite end. It does. It's much more fitting and satisfying than the ending of ME3. I don't count the boring randomly generated quests as the game lasting forever, because they're so inconsequential that they might as well not exist. Their level of quality doesn't match the rest of the game at all.


True, true. You get just the right amount of closure and the right amount of 'wait, what did I just do' moments (especially with Paarthurnax)

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[quote]Rappeldrache wrote...

[quote]Geda173 wrote...

For the Germans:

http://www.gamestar....51,2565786.html

Accordin to Gamestar Bioware is happy with the ending and they are not going to change it.[/quote]


I can't write this in english, sorry. *shame* Sorry, sorry, sorry:

Übrigens: Sollten die tatsächlich einen kostenpflichtigen DLC herausbringen (mit anderen, alternativen Enden), dann wären sie gut beraten den GESAMTEN Gewinn der Kinderhilfe zu spenden. DAS wäre wenigstens eine Möglichkeit mit nur einem gebrochenen Bein aus der Sache rauszukommen. [/quote]

GREAT IDEA! (He meant that if BioWare wants money for an ending-DLC they shoul spend the whole amount to childsplay.  

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TheRealMithril wrote...

BioWare stated there would be 16 different endings. Different means 'not the same' BioWare. You know, technically this is enough for a lawsuit. Because you claim the game contains something it doesn't, and you refuse to deliver. I would not be surprised of someone already filed a case against you. For real.


Their "16 endings" include minor variation like damage to Earth... So techinically there is 16 endings, its just they all are very similar and suck.

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How about this for an ending?

http://www.cdn.actio...at_comic474.jpg

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KHReborn wrote...

Geda173 wrote...

For the Germans:

http://www.gamestar....51,2565786.html

Accordin to Gamestar Bioware is happy with the ending and they are not going to change it.


It's the same like the pcgames article. It's only a translated too long to read version of the vgn article posted here some hours before.


Hm, they never said they were not gonna give us an "additional" ending. They vaguely said that the fan's feedback was to be considered for the "new content"...
I dont consider this the end of all hopes yet. Adding new content to the end wouldnt mean literally changing it...

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@Katosu

*Hug* Thanks a lot. :)

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Thanks :)

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[quote]Matt_gekko88 wrote...

[quote]Rappeldrache wrote...

[quote]Geda173 wrote...

For the Germans:

http://www.gamestar....51,2565786.html

Accordin to Gamestar Bioware is happy with the ending and they are not going to change it.[/quote]


I can't write this in english, sorry. *shame* Sorry, sorry, sorry:

Übrigens: Sollten die tatsächlich einen kostenpflichtigen DLC herausbringen (mit anderen, alternativen Enden), dann wären sie gut beraten den GESAMTEN Gewinn der Kinderhilfe zu spenden. DAS wäre wenigstens eine Möglichkeit mit nur einem gebrochenen Bein aus der Sache rauszukommen. [/quote]

GREAT IDEA! (He meant that if BioWare wants money for an ending-DLC they shoul spend the whole amount to childsplay.  

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That makes a lot of sense. :) It'd be a great gesture as a company and would restore my faith, plus it means everyone that buys it isn't just paying BioWare (Though they do need to recoup losses), instead they are helping out a charitable organization.

I doubt it'll happen, but if a company ever did this, I'd love 'em forever, lol

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[quote]Matt_gekko88 wrote...

[quote]Rappeldrache wrote...

[quote]Geda173 wrote...

For the Germans:

http://www.gamestar....51,2565786.html

Accordin to Gamestar Bioware is happy with the ending and they are not going to change it.[/quote]


I can't write this in english, sorry. *shame* Sorry, sorry, sorry:

Übrigens: Sollten die tatsächlich einen kostenpflichtigen DLC herausbringen (mit anderen, alternativen Enden), dann wären sie gut beraten den GESAMTEN Gewinn der Kinderhilfe zu spenden. DAS wäre wenigstens eine Möglichkeit mit nur einem gebrochenen Bein aus der Sache rauszukommen. [/quote]

GREAT IDEA! (He meant that if BioWare wants money for an ending-DLC they shoul spend the whole amount to childsplay.  

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I Would glady pay if that was the case, even tho I have already donated ^_^

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Katosu wrote...

Rappeldrache wrote...

Geda173 wrote...

For the Germans:

http://www.gamestar....51,2565786.html

Accordin to Gamestar Bioware is happy with the ending and they are not going to change it.



I can't write this in english, sorry. *shame* Sorry, sorry, sorry:

Ja, es ist tatsächlich ein Ende welches "viel besprochen" werden wird: Als eine der größten Frechheiten die sich eine Gamer-Firma jemals erlaubt hat. Als eine schallende Ohrfeige für jeden Spieler, für jeden Käufer.

Übrigens: Sollten die tatsächlich einen kostenpflichtigen DLC herausbringen (mit anderen, alternativen Enden), dann wären sie gut beraten den GESAMTEN Gewinn der Kinderhilfe zu spenden. DAS wäre wenigstens eine Möglichkeit mit nur einem gebrochenen Bein aus der Sache rauszukommen.

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Google Translate says it's something like...

"Yes, there actually is an end which will be "much discussed": One of the biggest insults the company has a gamer ever allowed. As a slap in the face of every player for every buyer.

By the way: If the release actually a paid DLC (with other, alternative endings), would then get them ALL the profits of the children help to donate. THAT would be at least one way with only a broken leg from the thing to get out."

Is it slightly close? The grammer's a bit lost here and there, but I think we'd get the meaning, except in the second half.


Yeah, content-wise it's okay. Nvm the grammar. Surprisingly accurate for google. Image IPB

#27090
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Katosu wrote...

Rappeldrache wrote...

Geda173 wrote...

For the Germans:

http://www.gamestar....51,2565786.html

Accordin to Gamestar Bioware is happy with the ending and they are not going to change it.



I can't write this in english, sorry. *shame* Sorry, sorry, sorry:

Ja, es ist tatsächlich ein Ende welches "viel besprochen" werden wird: Als eine der größten Frechheiten die sich eine Gamer-Firma jemals erlaubt hat. Als eine schallende Ohrfeige für jeden Spieler, für jeden Käufer.

Übrigens: Sollten die tatsächlich einen kostenpflichtigen DLC herausbringen (mit anderen, alternativen Enden), dann wären sie gut beraten den GESAMTEN Gewinn der Kinderhilfe zu spenden. DAS wäre wenigstens eine Möglichkeit mit nur einem gebrochenen Bein aus der Sache rauszukommen.

.


Google Translate says it's something like...

"Yes, there actually is an end which will be "much discussed": One of the biggest insults the company has a gamer ever allowed. As a slap in the face of every player for every buyer.

By the way: If the release actually a paid DLC (with other, alternative endings), would then get them ALL the profits of the children help to donate. THAT would be at least one way with only a broken leg from the thing to get out."

Is it slightly close? The grammer's a bit lost here and there, but I think we'd get the meaning, except in the second half.


That is relatively close.  The second half it says if they release a paid DLC they should donate all the profits to some children's charity.  That way they only come out with a black eye.  That is what is says, more or less.  My German is not perfect.

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sergeym1990 wrote...

TheRealMithril wrote...

BioWare stated there would be 16 different endings. Different means 'not the same' BioWare. You know, technically this is enough for a lawsuit. Because you claim the game contains something it doesn't, and you refuse to deliver. I would not be surprised of someone already filed a case against you. For real.


Their "16 endings" include minor variation like damage to Earth... So techinically there is 16 endings, its just they all are very similar and suck.


I very much doubt that would hold in court. It like saying: We sell three different bikes. It's the same bike with different colors. You can change wheels too. ... No.. different means just what I said, it's an entirely different model.

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Rappeldrache wrote...

@Katosu

*Hug* Thanks a lot. :)

@Matt

Thanks :)

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*Hugs back* 

Anyways guys, I'm out to work. Hold the line n'all that. :P

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TheRealMithril wrote...

sergeym1990 wrote...

TheRealMithril wrote...

BioWare stated there would be 16 different endings. Different means 'not the same' BioWare. You know, technically this is enough for a lawsuit. Because you claim the game contains something it doesn't, and you refuse to deliver. I would not be surprised of someone already filed a case against you. For real.


Their "16 endings" include minor variation like damage to Earth... So techinically there is 16 endings, its just they all are very similar and suck.


I very much doubt that would hold in court. It like saying: We sell three different bikes. It's the same bike with different colors. You can change wheels too. ... No.. different means just what I said, it's an entirely different model.


While my knowledge of the laws of other countries aren't as good as that of my own I can say with 100% certainty that a lawsuit would never work.

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Xavier Hawk wrote...

How about this for an ending?

http://www.cdn.actio...at_comic474.jpg


Better than the current one :D

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Ugh, I have to vent some feelings about this and I don't want to spoil the ending for my friends who haven't finished, so apologies if this is really TLDR. I finished last night. I was ok with the choices as presented. I thought it was an interesting moral dilemma. But then...

The control choice was right out, since Shep just spent the entirety of the game fighting against the Illusive Man so that this option wouldn't come to pass. It was also a kind of body horror reminiscent of the ending of Wrath of the Lich King; Shepard's consciousness stuck controlling Reapers for all eternity? The more I think about it, the worse the idea gets.

I was playing a Paragon Shep who spent the last 2 games slowly coming to the realisation that synthetics could be sentient; who united the Quarians and Geth; who taught EDI what it means to be alive and encouraged her to pursue a relationship with Joker. The Harbinger tells her that destroying the Reapers will also destroy all synthetics, so there's no way she would have taken the option that meant destroying both a whole race of beings whom she had come to regard as allies and an AI who she had come to regard as a friend. The Harbinger also tells her that destroying the Reapers will destroy all the tech they've come to rely on. This is what really cemented this option as a no-go for me. We've seen what the destruction of a relay did in Arrival; my Shep would not have picked this option in a million years, even though they illustrated it with Anderson and it was clearly supposed to be the paragon option. She would have even picked the control option over the destruction of all the tech.

The synthesis option is a moral grey area. Would the galaxy appreciate being turned into organic-synthetic hybrids? Would the peace Shep brokered hold, or would they turn on each other? But for my Shep, this was the only choice that made any sense. Sacrificing herself for a chance at peace fitted with her character and all the other decisions I'd made so far in the series.

OK, so. So far so good, interesting moral dilemma. I would have been perfectly happy if it had ended there. The part that pissed me off was that, even after all that careful reasoning, the citadel and the mass relays got blown up anyway. It left me feeling deeply unsatisfied. Then I went looking for what happens in the other endings and ugh.

There's no hope for peace if the mass relays are destroyed. The Harbinger only mentioned that as an outcome in terms of destroying the Reapers, so why does it happen in all three endings?? It made the moral dilemma pointless and cheapened the experience of the whole game.

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Denethar wrote...

TheRealMithril wrote...

sergeym1990 wrote...

TheRealMithril wrote...

BioWare stated there would be 16 different endings. Different means 'not the same' BioWare. You know, technically this is enough for a lawsuit. Because you claim the game contains something it doesn't, and you refuse to deliver. I would not be surprised of someone already filed a case against you. For real.


Their "16 endings" include minor variation like damage to Earth... So techinically there is 16 endings, its just they all are very similar and suck.


I very much doubt that would hold in court. It like saying: We sell three different bikes. It's the same bike with different colors. You can change wheels too. ... No.. different means just what I said, it's an entirely different model.


While my knowledge of the laws of other countries aren't as good as that of my own I can say with 100% certainty that a lawsuit would never work.


You are probably right, but it doesn't mean someone would not try. Nor that BW would win either. I have seen companies loose to very strange claims. 

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Rappeldrache wrote...

I can't write this in english, sorry. *shame* Sorry, sorry, sorry:

Ja, es ist tatsächlich ein Ende welches "viel besprochen" werden wird: Als eine der größten Frechheiten die sich eine Gamer-Firma jemals erlaubt hat. Als eine schallende Ohrfeige für jeden Spieler, für jeden Käufer.

Übrigens: Sollten die tatsächlich einen kostenpflichtigen DLC herausbringen (mit anderen, alternativen Enden), dann wären sie gut beraten den GESAMTEN Gewinn der Kinderhilfe zu spenden. DAS wäre wenigstens eine Möglichkeit mit nur einem gebrochenen Bein aus der Sache rauszukommen.

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Bioware hold their promise, that ME wouldn't be fortotten by the players/customers: They kicked in the balls of the players around the world. Even when they upload a DLC, they should use that money to support children, who needs help. It would be a posibility to say sorry for their mistake and bring some fans (customers) back. 

It's not a 100 % translation. But the meaning behind it is the same.

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Hope this helps.



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melisma wrote...

Ugh, I have to vent some feelings about this and I don't want to spoil the ending for my friends who haven't finished, so apologies if this is really TLDR. I finished last night. I was ok with the choices as presented. I thought it was an interesting moral dilemma. But then...

The control choice was right out, since Shep just spent the entirety of the game fighting against the Illusive Man so that this option wouldn't come to pass. It was also a kind of body horror reminiscent of the ending of Wrath of the Lich King; Shepard's consciousness stuck controlling Reapers for all eternity? The more I think about it, the worse the idea gets.

I was playing a Paragon Shep who spent the last 2 games slowly coming to the realisation that synthetics could be sentient; who united the Quarians and Geth; who taught EDI what it means to be alive and encouraged her to pursue a relationship with Joker. The Harbinger tells her that destroying the Reapers will also destroy all synthetics, so there's no way she would have taken the option that meant destroying both a whole race of beings whom she had come to regard as allies and an AI who she had come to regard as a friend. The Harbinger also tells her that destroying the Reapers will destroy all the tech they've come to rely on. This is what really cemented this option as a no-go for me. We've seen what the destruction of a relay did in Arrival; my Shep would not have picked this option in a million years, even though they illustrated it with Anderson and it was clearly supposed to be the paragon option. She would have even picked the control option over the destruction of all the tech.

The synthesis option is a moral grey area. Would the galaxy appreciate being turned into organic-synthetic hybrids? Would the peace Shep brokered hold, or would they turn on each other? But for my Shep, this was the only choice that made any sense. Sacrificing herself for a chance at peace fitted with her character and all the other decisions I'd made so far in the series.

OK, so. So far so good, interesting moral dilemma. I would have been perfectly happy if it had ended there. The part that pissed me off was that, even after all that careful reasoning, the citadel and the mass relays got blown up anyway. It left me feeling deeply unsatisfied. Then I went looking for what happens in the other endings and ugh.

There's no hope for peace if the mass relays are destroyed. The Harbinger only mentioned that as an outcome in terms of destroying the Reapers, so why does it happen in all three endings?? It made the moral dilemma pointless and cheapened the experience of the whole game.


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melisma wrote...

Ugh, I have to vent some feelings about this and I don't want to spoil the ending for my friends who haven't finished, so apologies if this is really TLDR. I finished last night. I was ok with the choices as presented. I thought it was an interesting moral dilemma. But then...

The control choice was right out, since Shep just spent the entirety of the game fighting against the Illusive Man so that this option wouldn't come to pass. It was also a kind of body horror reminiscent of the ending of Wrath of the Lich King; Shepard's consciousness stuck controlling Reapers for all eternity? The more I think about it, the worse the idea gets.

I was playing a Paragon Shep who spent the last 2 games slowly coming to the realisation that synthetics could be sentient; who united the Quarians and Geth; who taught EDI what it means to be alive and encouraged her to pursue a relationship with Joker. The Harbinger tells her that destroying the Reapers will also destroy all synthetics, so there's no way she would have taken the option that meant destroying both a whole race of beings whom she had come to regard as allies and an AI who she had come to regard as a friend. The Harbinger also tells her that destroying the Reapers will destroy all the tech they've come to rely on. This is what really cemented this option as a no-go for me. We've seen what the destruction of a relay did in Arrival; my Shep would not have picked this option in a million years, even though they illustrated it with Anderson and it was clearly supposed to be the paragon option. She would have even picked the control option over the destruction of all the tech.

The synthesis option is a moral grey area. Would the galaxy appreciate being turned into organic-synthetic hybrids? Would the peace Shep brokered hold, or would they turn on each other? But for my Shep, this was the only choice that made any sense. Sacrificing herself for a chance at peace fitted with her character and all the other decisions I'd made so far in the series.

OK, so. So far so good, interesting moral dilemma. I would have been perfectly happy if it had ended there. The part that pissed me off was that, even after all that careful reasoning, the citadel and the mass relays got blown up anyway. It left me feeling deeply unsatisfied. Then I went looking for what happens in the other endings and ugh.

There's no hope for peace if the mass relays are destroyed. The Harbinger only mentioned that as an outcome in terms of destroying the Reapers, so why does it happen in all three endings?? It made the moral dilemma pointless and cheapened the experience of the whole game.


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