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Tyion133

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David Bergsma wrote...

DRAGONFIRE50000000 wrote...

a good singleplayer add on will not be good if the end of the game will be still the same


It's a dream, dude.


hopefully

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FOX216BC

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If this "the truth" dlc turns out to be real, i hope they annonce it whit the soundtrack "from the wreckage"

EA won't like this
One can only hope...

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Atraiyu Wrynn

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These forums have been simmering at half heat because so many believe the indoctrination theory. What happens when Bioware definitively states that it was the real ending and there was no indoctrination?

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Prudii Aden

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Another article that people may wish to read. It at least looks like the writer has actually played the game all the way through...
http://crasstalk.com...-mass-effect-3/

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mulder1199

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BlackDevil06 wrote...

They wanted a memorable ending, not one you forget. You know what, the ending of Knights of the Old Republic 1 is your typical ending. You know what else? Even after not playing it for five or six years I still remember the ending.


Then again, controversial these days means highly discussed in the media, which means more attention and more potential buyers. *Looks towards the Modern Warfare series and Battlefield 3*


hahaha, yes....this is like they stopped at the twist and as soon as you get through to where malak is the 2nd time the game is done

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Atraiyu Wrynn wrote...

These forums have been simmering at half heat because so many believe the indoctrination theory. What happens when Bioware definitively states that it was the real ending and there was no indoctrination?


Does the phrase "political ****storm" mean anything to you?
/Udina

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Atraiyu Wrynn wrote...

These forums have been simmering at half heat because so many believe the indoctrination theory. What happens when Bioware definitively states that it was the real ending and there was no indoctrination?


'vocal minority' gains a boatload less 'minority'

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Atraiyu Wrynn wrote...

These forums have been simmering at half heat because so many believe the indoctrination theory. What happens when Bioware definitively states that it was the real ending and there was no indoctrination?


They'll have another diplomatic incident on their hands.

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Sunnyhat1

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netarchy wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

purplehaybusa wrote...

WAIT A MINUTE.
WAIT JUST A DARN MINUTE.

The Citadel is a mass relay, right? Sovereign said so.

Yeah but it's just an one-way-relay. Because of this the Prothean scientists died by starvation when they entered it and became aware that they can't escape from the empty citadel.


You're thinking the Conduit, not the Citadel. The Conduit was one-way, it was never established that the Citadel itself is one-way.


Also forgetting the Alpha Relay from Mass Effect 2 (Arrival DLC). Sovereign was (probably) only using the citadell to communicate to his breathren. Give the starting signal. I dont think the citadel itself is referred to as a mass relay anywhere.

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On its own there's nothing really wrong with the ending. In any other game it would be ok. Not great, not terrible just ok. But when you factor in that a lot of people have played this game from day one to now, importing saves, seeing how their choices altered the game all while Bioware is cheering them on advertising about how "important" your choices are and isn't that wonderful. Then you find out that 100s of hours of game time that has been so cleverly woven into the game comes to a crashing halt in the last 5 minutes of the final installment and means absolutely nothing.

Its like bioware just gave all the long-term players a big "F-U". Ya we told you your choices would matter...well they don't just deal with it. Its very disappointing.

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mulder1199

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from the crass talk article....basically sums up this thread

So, how to judge Mass Effect 3? My first playthrough took me approximately 30 hours. Of that 30 hours, I enjoyed the hell out of the first 29 hours and 30 minutes. Great gameplay design, great story, etc.

The last thirty minutes will stick in my craw for a long time, or at least until BioWare fixes it, because it’s basically two Reaper-sized middle fingers to the entire fanbase, and everyone that played the whole trilogy from start to finish.

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mulder1199 wrote...

Atraiyu Wrynn wrote...

These forums have been simmering at half heat because so many believe the indoctrination theory. What happens when Bioware definitively states that it was the real ending and there was no indoctrination?


'vocal minority' gains a boatload less 'minority'


If it indeed is indoctrination, and i think it is, then there really is no ending at all.? Cant really see why thats a preferable state of affairs? The only thing it really fixes is some of the blatant plotholes. So indoctrination or not there really needs to be some sort of closure.

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mauro2222 wrote...

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LOL! :o  

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Rappeldrache

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Matt_gekko88 wrote...

I think, if we want to make them feel our disappointment, we should let them feel it where they REALLY care: their wallet.

How can we do that?


Writing recessions on Amazon (and other vendor-places) how horrible the end of this game is. Giving the game only one star!

Sorry for my english. :(

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Astralify wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

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LOL! :o  


Hacket the White:wizard:

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Justicar-Ilua

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If bioware pushed out "The Truth" DLC, that is all me3 would be remembered for. The game with such a bad ending; the developer had to throw together a new one to please the fans. the infamy

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Hmmmm...

I wonder why PCGamer and RockPaperShotgun hasn't written anything about the whole situation...

Any theories?

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Matt_gekko88

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I think someone already posted this but - meh, whatever. I like it.

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Matt_gekko88 wrote...

I think someone already posted this but - meh, whatever. I like it.


Plenty of times ;)

It's my new favorite video

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Had this idea, after ruminating on it for a few days, but not heavily. What about a "chemical" WMD of sorts, instead of harming organics it's designed to target synthetics. Say you helped Legion and the geth, you could use some sort of "coding" to make them immune to the weapon's affect. And I am not talking about EMP, by the way. I imagine it like a "Reaper smallpox." Thumbs up or down?

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Ya know, when I think about it, they were very clear they did not want the endings to be another forgettable conclusion to just any old story. Now, that being said, Casey never says what we see is what we get, he is more likely talking about the project as a whole, in fact, most devs are going to talk about the project as a whole so that when you read anything they said 1-2 years from now it will make sense then. If the Truth DLC turns out to be the direction they are going, you and I both know that you will never ever forget that, and people will be talking about this forever.

On the flip side, I very much believe this would set a very bad precedence for the future of all story based games.

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I still prefer if a game gets delayed, instead of getting an unfinished game, anytime.
Take HL2 EP2 at example. The ending screams for a sequel (get that damn Borealis!), but Valve did not say anything specifically, after almost four and a half years now.

I can see on the bugs (and other stuff) I encountered on ME3 that the game was at least a bit rushed to get it done on the release (see credits - "thanks to our families for understanding we had less time for them" something similar)
Bioware made an awesome job to create such a story in an universe, where players are able to immerse themselves into. Especially if (most) players refer to "my" Shepard as the main char, and being sad and/or angry about her/him dying (including me). That's hell of a compliment to a game dev, no matter what.
to stop myself writing a wall of text:
It is still unsatisfying not to see my hoard of little blue children

PS: to make one thing clear: no, I am not happy with the ending, it makes no sense, and disregards around 6000 minutes of gameplay.
The choices made on previous games just influences a number, which influences small bits of the ending scenes (saved / devasted / destroyed earth)

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cruggero22 wrote...

Had this idea, after ruminating on it for a few days, but not heavily. What about a "chemical" WMD of sorts, instead of harming organics it's designed to target synthetics. Say you helped Legion and the geth, you could use some sort of "coding" to make them immune to the weapon's affect. And I am not talking about EMP, by the way. I imagine it like a "Reaper smallpox." Thumbs up or down?


That's more or less what i thought the crucible would do before I got to the end. Or some sort of EMP atleast.

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Justicar-Ilua wrote...

If bioware pushed out "The Truth" DLC, that is all me3 would be remembered for. The game with such a bad ending; the developer had to throw together a new one to please the fans. the infamy


Actually, *IF* it is well done and shows a lot of polish (Like LOTSB) then it is quite possible that what will be remembered is the fans uproar over nothing and an awesome finish to the Shepard Saga.

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Benirus wrote...

Hmmmm...

I wonder why PCGamer and RockPaperShotgun hasn't written anything about the whole situation...

Any theories?


I've been wondering the same thing myself. I've sent them numerous emails.