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[cantido21]

Heading off for a bit

stay on target

[WvStolzing]

zeypher wrote...

From India here, so you can add me to your fleet. I think i got ripped off by bioware, with endings and the stupid star child

Welcome! And for all newcomers----please do check out the two reviews in my signature. They articulate our concerns exceptionally well.

[cruggero22]

Atraiyu Wrynn wrote...

cruggero22 wrote...

Atraiyu Wrynn wrote...

blunznsepp wrote...

reporting in from work. any news yet?

The ending blew.  Bioware loves that the ending blew.  It's a sign that they've done their jobs as artists.  That's about where we are at right now.

To be fair, you can't undermine their artistic ability. One, they've sold games. Two, you bought them. And three, safe for the ending, no one is complaining about their writing ability. It's top notch. We all make mistakes. 

- Most of us have to fix our mistakes.
- I only cited the ending in my complaint so we appear to have no disagreements here.
- I actually can undermine the artistic value of a terrible ending.
- Yes they already have my money.  But I feel ripped off and will give them no more on future products.
- I am complaining about the writing ability of those responsible for the ending. 

I know. Its just not all that easy considering that you are dealing with a "published" product. And touche to the remainder of your retort.  

[Matt_gekko88]

It somehow would be awesome if BioWare would sink into obscurity because of this.
Because, hey, we asked them to aid us and did all we could to warn them.

[AntiDave]

cruggero22 wrote...

AntiDave wrote...

http://www.digitaltr...-controversies/

Casey Hudson trying to justify the horrible endings. "They would have been forgettable after all.", "We did this to polarize."

Trying to appear all artistic - great. Now, that is just ignorant.
"Oh look, this steaming pile of *** is actually modern art. Just meant to polarize y'all trollolol."

That is their way of enacting damage control. I wouldn't read too far into it. Indirect, distancing... he's just defending himself as best he can at the moment, and his team. It's his job.  

What damage? They are swimming in cash right now and there is simply no material reason for them to care.
And they have the Kotaku hate machine and Murdoch IGN on their side. Soi if you step up they'll be all like:
"You don't have no constitutional right. Stop hurting creative freedom, stop bullying the peaceful artist." 

Man, and I used to say that Bioware was the vanguard of anglophone RPGs.

Perhaps we should be asking for more loli in ME3. Might at least get Kotaku to not spew hate on us.

[Neizd]

I used to be big ME fan, until I took the ending to my head...

[FOX216BC]

Benirus wrote...

FOX216BC wrote...



SHEPARDS DAY!!!!

Hehe awsome song, but let's remember to keep it civil guys

sorry i guess the :devil:renegade:devil: in me made me post this.

[Cybermortis]

AntiDave wrote...


What damage? They are swimming in cash right now and there is simply no material reason for them to care.

How about EA's share price dropping to its lowest level in a year - from some $50 to $17 in 7 days....

[vboy23]

dfstone wrote...

This game has only been out for a week. Are we certain that everything has been found? In ME2 the "perfect" ending was kinda difficult to get. You had to have full paragon/renegade, everyone in the crew had to be loyal, the normandy had to be fully upgraded and you had to get to the collector base within a specific time frame.

It just seemed to me that it didn't require much effort to reach the end of ME3. You don't even need high paragon/renegade scores. In fact, paragon/renegade didn't seem to matter much at all. All that really mattered was military strength.

I just feel like something is missing here.

I would have to say, there are enough hardcore players here that I am sure they have gone through everything that is in the game to get a "perfect" score. With regards to saving everyone in ME2 (squad and crew all alive in the end) is not really that hard to accomplish. I did everything in one playthrough without any guides and just the occasional reload for combat deaths, but getting all the plot requirements was intuitive enough that there was no need for me to dig around to figure out how to save everyone.

I dont think with this many people going through the game already, that someone might have missed something that would have given us some definite answers. All it just gave us was a short clip of seeing someone in N7 rubble catch a breath (whether it was a breath of life or dying breath who knows?)

ME3 was considerably easier, frankly it felt more "run down the hall, shoot everything that moves". It felt like most of the decisions you had to make now, were a culmination of previous decisions you made (is Wrex alive from the first game to rally the krogans into supporting you? did you save Maelons data in ME2 so that Mordin can cure the genophage faster than if you didnt save it?) . It was like, your tying up all the loose ends you had in the previous 2 games, and now your seeing the results of everything before. (Which as majority of us agree, is all we want to see the ending for)

Hold the line!!!

Modifié par vboy23, 14 mars 2012 - 03:07 .

[unclee]

Thread seems to have a bit more Bioware bashing going on so I'll throw out the reminder again:

Let's try to keep that to a minimum. It's fine to be critical of the game, but let's stay civil towards Bioware/EA. The longer we stay cool the greater chance they'll take us seriously.

[Plazeor]

Benirus wrote...

Well don't forget the giant white beam that's connected to the Citadel... Never really got explained did it

I think I can be okay with the light beam thing.  They are harvesting/making paste whatever.  Needed a way to get to the citidel, that will do.

However, saying they need a new solution because I was standing there didn't make much sense either.  For all intents and purposes I died trying to talk to Hackett.  They had to raise the platform and then tell me to wake up so I could save the universe.

Coupled with the fact you get up there and the catalyst just essentially says that we win, and now choose how it dies, doesn't seem right either. 

I was expecting Shepard to die, didn't feel the need to raise my EMS to 4000+ to have it otherwise

Earth was saved, so that is fine

I was expecting an epilogue, maybe a statue?  Or at least a funeral service where people payed their respects.  Realize this was done before the final push where you got to essentially say goodbye to everyone.  Still would have liked 1 minute where some of my squadmates remember the sacrifice.

I would have preferred the ending to be more of Shepard was informed that the catalyst will destroy the relays.  Shepard announces for all fleets to pull out and go back to their respective systems cause she is going to blow them up and they won't have a way back. Everyone pulls out, relays are blown, for those who needed a happy ending Shepard is found drifting in space losing oxygen again (beginning Mass Effect 2) except this time the Normady saves Shepard.  My LI, Joker EDI and maybe one or two others would be there.  Regardles the Normady gets blown out of the sky and crashes on earth.  I am either standing there with my team, or they are hanging my dog tags on something.  The universe is screwed, as we are cut off from eachother for another X number of hundreds/thousands of years.  When the Mass Relays are finally rebuilt, I expect that the other races to have forgotten and also hate the decision that Shepard made all those years ago because the cost was to high, and Shepard got it wrong in their eyes.

Modifié par Plazeor, 14 mars 2012 - 03:08 .

[dfstone]

EA is the largest game software distributor in the world. They are not worried about some people on a message board saying the end to one of their games sucked. They sold over 3 million copies of Mass Effect 3, and although math isn't my strongest subject, I'm pretty sure that there aren't 3 million people posting in this thread. EA isn't scared.

[Menthro]

unclee wrote...

Thread seems to have a bit more Bioware bashing going on so I'll throw out the reminder again:

Let's try to keep that to a minimum. It's fine to be critical of the game, but let's stay civil towards Bioware/EA. The longer we stay cool the greater chance they'll take us seriously.

QFT

[RagingCeltik]

Can you imagine how confusing the endings must be for the color-blind?

[Game_Fan_85]

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

It somehow would be awesome if BioWare would sink into obscurity because of this.
Because, hey, we asked them to aid us and did all we could to warn them.

No, it wouldn't be awesome, it would be a tragedy.  That is unfair to all the people that work there, including the Mass Effect team.  Mass Effect's ending will never change my love of Dragon Age and more importantly....Alistair

[Matt_gekko88]

unclee wrote...

Thread seems to have a bit more Bioware bashing going on so I'll throw out the reminder again:

Let's try to keep that to a minimum. It's fine to be critical of the game, but let's stay civil towards Bioware/EA. The longer we stay cool the greater chance they'll take us seriously.

Yeah, like answering our worries with Trololol-videos..

Don't worry, we will stay civil and not drift away into insulting the devs. It would just be nice to discuss the ending with them, not just with ourselves.

[rethas]

Cybermortis wrote...

AntiDave wrote...


What damage? They are swimming in cash right now and there is simply no material reason for them to care.

How about EA's share price dropping to its lowest level in a year - from some $50 to $17 in 7 days....

EA stock has been in the mid to high 16s for several weeks.

This has not effected the stock price drastically, the reason it is down today is likely due to the economic situation in Greece and the problems with the Euro.

Generally the markets have been bad recently.

I bought EA shares about 2 months ago so I keep an eye on the price check out the Nasdaq website and look at the history, this isn't really effecting it to be honest. If it is, then it is doing so in a small way.

[KiganMatsuei]

I also just can't comprehend how we are supposed to magically understand how this kid Shepard sees on Earth happens to look exactly like some program on the Citadel.

I guess that is just more backing to the dream/indoctrination theory.

[Doppelgaenger]

unclee wrote...

Thread seems to have a bit more Bioware bashing going on so I'll throw out the reminder again:

Let's try to keep that to a minimum. It's fine to be critical of the game, but let's stay civil towards Bioware/EA. The longer we stay cool the greater chance they'll take us seriously.

 BS that is just your inner Paragon talking! 


Jokes aside: I agree completly, let us keep it civil.

[Copperwings]

In case nobody has read this...

http://social.biowar...5/index/9883529

Modifié par Copperwings, 14 mars 2012 - 03:11 .

[rianna]

Guys, knock off the Bioware bashing. I know it's really hard to keep your cool when game news sites are being rude and we aren't getting any official response, but these things take time. Even if we do get a "fix-it" patch or DLC, it will probably take months. Want to guarantee it never happens at all? Keep being rude about the company and its employees. In the words of a certain sentinel, "Sometimes the way a thing goes down does matter, Shepard. Later, when you have to live with yourself. Knowing that you acted with integrity -- then it matters." Act with integrity and hold the line!

[Soundsystem]

dfstone wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

dfstone wrote...

This game has only been out for a week. Are we certain that everything has been found? In ME2 the "perfect" ending was kinda difficult to get. You had to have full paragon/renegade, everyone in the crew had to be loyal, and you had to get to the collector base within a specific time frame.

Yeah but I don't think it was that difficult.
Also, IGN () already released an "Ending-Guide" where you can see how you can achieve which ending.

I don't trust those prima guides.  If Bioware is keeping a secret, why would they tell IGN?  I dunno about anyone else but I played my 1st run in the game and chose all the paragon options in all the quests I could find and still didn't come anywhere near maxing out the paragon bar.  It only went halfway to the top.  Reputation is easy to max, but the paragon score went up very VERY slowly.  So I'm wondering if the endings do change when you play a new game plus and build up your paragon/renegade scores.

My playthrough had paragon maxed.

Also, a couple people have beaten the game on NG+ to check and then posted on the forums. Nothing changes.

[MeldarthX]

rethas wrote...


If the mind control theory turns out to be true, doesn't that mean that we purchased an unfinished product?

I am honestly confused by this theory and the above thought makes me think that it is just wishful thinking to try and make sense of a bad ending.

If you were sold a book with the last 20 pages missing and then sent them in the mail a month after finishing it would that even be legal?

I was very disappointed with the ending after enjoying the rest of the game, however I am certain I will download it or even purchase it if there is a new ending DLC.

But not letting passionate fans know there is something good on the horizon and providing them with a product missing a major component seems like a dangerous road to tread no?

Its legal; most of the classics were actually done this way.  Dickens, Sir Arthor Doyle.

We're not the first to stand up and fight for something we believe in; I mean Sherlock was brought back after the mass amount of fan mail Doyle got calling for him to be brought back.

We Hold The Line.....lol I'm just not sure which tag to use; American in England .......could I get American/UK tag

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[Denethar]

rethas wrote...

Cybermortis wrote...

AntiDave wrote...


What damage? They are swimming in cash right now and there is simply no material reason for them to care.

How about EA's share price dropping to its lowest level in a year - from some $50 to $17 in 7 days....

EA stock has been in the mid to high 16s for several weeks.

This has not effected the stock price drastically, the reason it is down today is likely due to the economic situation in Greece and the problems with the Euro.

Generally the markets have been bad recently.

I bought EA shares about 2 months ago so I keep an eye on the price check out the Nasdaq website and look at the history, this isn't really effecting it to be honest. If it is, then it is doing so in a small way.

Isn't that a sign in itself?, Their biggest release this quarter and their stock is still going down slightly.

[thedistortedchild]

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