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[Menthro]

Max Knight wrote...

zarnk567 wrote...

MacNille wrote...

http://www.destructo...?s=100#comments
Jim Sterling doesn't have any high opionen about us.

Jim Sterling does not have high opinons for anyone other then himself...... his ego is as big as he is....

caming from thats is strange but..daam tha guys mus be the size of the moon.

Ladies and gents, enough, stop with the insults.

[Zulmoka531]

By the way, was it ever discovered who donated the 10k the other night?
For some reason it makes me think it (very slim theory here) may have been Martin Sheen, given his notable charity work in the past plus his involvement in ME3

[TheRealMithril]

Menthro wrote...

TheRealMithril wrote...

Well, if BW retweeted the 'you-have-no-right' article it's pretty clear. You can yell and scream all you want, nothing will change. So there.. I will buy the DLC's (yes I will) and I will enjoy them, but I will be very careful about investing time in BioWare games in the future. Because if they like to make great games that ends in a 2001- A space odyssey mode, then no thank you I'll pass.

Link?

I was commenting this post: http://social.biowar...16/1102#9931916

Modifié par TheRealMithril, 14 mars 2012 - 03:55 .

[Menthro]

Soundsystem wrote...

Nice to see Bioware and their employees being so rude to fans.

*snip*

Link?

[Ampmaster]

kongenial wrote...

MacNille wrote...

http://www.destructo...?s=100#comments
Jim Sterling doesn't have any high opionen about us.

Of course how could we schmocks dare to have another opinion this his holier-than-thou royalty. 

. 

I'm not super surprised the media thing back fired on us "Hey let's try to get thr word out and raise more money for charity" "Hey look another way we can call these people we disagree with horrible and support the status quo" the mainstream gaming media establishment is not our friend.

Modifié par Ampmaster, 14 mars 2012 - 03:56 .

[QwibQwib]

Menthro wrote...

Max Knight wrote...

zarnk567 wrote...

MacNille wrote...

http://www.destructo...?s=100#comments
Jim Sterling doesn't have any high opionen about us.

Jim Sterling does not have high opinons for anyone other then himself...... his ego is as big as he is....

caming from thats is strange but..daam tha guys mus be the size of the moon.

Ladies and gents, enough, stop with the insults.

++50 

Guys I know his article is insensitive, but you are not better than him if you keep insulting him.

[dfstone]

PresidentCowboy wrote...

dfstone wrote...

Its because they are right. The idea of trying to force them to change their game because you don't like the ending is ridiculous. The best thing to do is give them feedback on why you didn't like it so hopefully when they launch the next storyline for the Mass Effect universe, they make some improvements.

Again, there is no Mass Effect universe for a new storyline to be in, cause they destroyed the mass relays...

Sure there is.  Who's to say when the next storyline will be?  It could be in the distant future after the ME3 when a new kind of interstellar travel is developed.  It could be *gulps* pre-quel to ME1.  They could forget mass relays at all and just use FTL drives like they do in the game now.  Remember you can still travel to different stars without using a relay in the game right now. 

They have lots of options to continue the story.

[Menthro]

TheRealMithril wrote...

Menthro wrote...

TheRealMithril wrote...

Well, if BW retweeted the 'you-have-no-right' article it's pretty clear. You can yell and scream all you want, nothing will change. So there.. I will buy the DLC's (yes I will) and I will enjoy them, but I will be very careful about investing time in BioWare games in the future. Because if they like to make great games that ends in a 2001- A space odyssey mode, then no thank you I'll pass.

Link?

I was commenting this post: http://social.biowar...16/1102#9931916

I am now confused

[Bubi7]

haha, the destructoid comments are best.

*snip* Oh and f**** Liara *snip*

I certainly did, my friend. I did indeed.

The author Jim Sterling just wants attention, a typical attention wh... while he did not even lit up both sides, he just said "ending is fine as it is, stop your whining. even some charity fund won't help you"

Modifié par Bubi7, 14 mars 2012 - 03:56 .

[jerobolod]

Feraiin wrote...

I do not see this thread slowing down. If anything, it's picking up speed. We went from March 6th to 1000 pages in 7 days, not one day later, we're at 1100 pages.

I have to say, the media-coverage on some of these reviewing sites is incredibly unfair. I'm both a gamedesigner and artist, hell, I've won prices for both of those activities and these "journalists" call us entitled.
It just makes me angry. Not at Bioware, I have learned about NDA, the silence is frustrating, but very understandable, but this media-coverage painting us into the corner of spoiled fanboys is just unfair and brings about the wrong image.

I think the majority of dissatisfied players of ME3 feel that way, not because they want to take the creative freedom from BW, but because the ending, from an objective storytelling point of view, is simply poorly written.
What we have is a literal Deus Ex Machina, widely regarded as a cheap way to end a story, shunned by critics and reviewers in almost any other storytelling medium, but here we are supposed to just suck it up and move on?

I'm sorry, but as someone who is making creative content that I hope people buy myself, I would definitely reconsider altering or adding onto my product post-release if I can satisfy a huge group of people.

Besides, who gave those that call our plead "idiotic" the right to call names? They can have their opinion, they can bring forth their arguments. But don't think you can insult a huge group of people, just because they disagree with what you perceive as the supposedly right opinion.

This. Especially the last paragraph.

[ExileArin]

People act like this isn't how charities raise funds ALL THE TIME. A very common one is entering a raffle to win a vacation when the proceeds go to a charity. I doubt anyone is standing by the raffle-ticket seller and yelling how everyone is selfish and horrible and just wants a vacation.

[Mhgasa]

What it dont understand is how a professional company can do a 180 in their way making games. They changed the "premise" for the mass effect universe when they made the ending. Thus far in ME its allways been actions/consequences (cause/effect), but the ending completely nullifies this and only provides action without showing the consequences and then leaves the player hanging to interpret the conseqences themselves.

Now had this been done in a completely unrelated game i wouldnt have been disappointed and i doubt many others would be. The problem for them is that the fanbase they build using the action/consequence recipe are the same people complaining about me3 ending. These people, including me, feel an incredibly diasappointment at the fact that the premise used in the entire series, gets the boot at the very end. I feel like i thought i was buying one thing based on the previous games, but i ended up with something completely different.

Thats why i hope there is more to come, i refuse to believe that they would bail on the very thing that made mass effect great.

Modifié par Mhgasa, 14 mars 2012 - 03:58 .

[Max Knight]

QwibQwib wrote...

Menthro wrote...

Max Knight wrote...

zarnk567 wrote...

MacNille wrote...

http://www.destructo...?s=100#comments
Jim Sterling doesn't have any high opionen about us.

Jim Sterling does not have high opinons for anyone other then himself...... his ego is as big as he is....

caming from thats is strange but..daam tha guys mus be the size of the moon.

Ladies and gents, enough, stop with the insults.

++50 

Guys I know his article is insensitive, but you are not better than him if you keep insulting him.

my apology then but guys like him are just pissing me of so much...i mean yeh some of us are doing the charity thingy which is good..but that...not very pleasant person, make us sound like ve are the biget douchebags this side of milkyway.

[Apfelweinbrauer]

TSC_1 wrote...

Okay. So if Bioware has decided that they want to preserve their artistic integrity, or something, by not changing the ending... why don't they just say that?

Excuse me, but this must be some kind of joke, right? Over the course of the three mass effect games they almost completely changed the writing team and now the ending can't be worked over due to artistic integrity?
Utterly ridiculous...

[Novouto]

I-am-Biwinning wrote...

TheRealMithril wrote...

LordSlavius wrote...

Why is anyone responding to Jim Sterling anyway? ....

That was uncalled for.. I would rephrase that statement if I were you.

What Jim Sterling said was uncalled for.

Best to leave the fat arrogant cynicle self-rightous jack-ass alone. I wonder what he does when he's mad, besides eat untold number of twinkies.

We however can be glad in the knowledge that we vented our anger into something good, because it was a good thing to do.

[Denethar]

dfstone wrote...

PresidentCowboy wrote...

dfstone wrote...

Its because they are right. The idea of trying to force them to change their game because you don't like the ending is ridiculous. The best thing to do is give them feedback on why you didn't like it so hopefully when they launch the next storyline for the Mass Effect universe, they make some improvements.

Again, there is no Mass Effect universe for a new storyline to be in, cause they destroyed the mass relays...

Sure there is.  Who's to say when the next storyline will be?  It could be in the distant future after the ME3 when a new kind of interstellar travel is developed.  It could be *gulps* pre-quel to ME1.  They could forget mass relays at all and just use FTL drives like they do in the game now.  Remember you can still travel to different stars without using a relay in the game right now. 

They have lots of options to continue the story.

A Mass Effect universe with the Mass Effect part....sounds useless.

[dfstone]

mulder1199 wrote...

dfstone wrote...

Its because they are right. The idea of trying to force them to change their game because you don't like the ending is ridiculous. The best thing to do is give them feedback on why you didn't like it so hopefully when they launch the next storyline for the Mass Effect universe, they make some improvements.

you are assuming that anybody will be buying it.....

burn me once shame one you....burn me twice....

I would.  The ending to ME3 was a disappointment, but I still love the franchise and would buy ME4 if/when it comes out.

[ArmyKnifeX]

Soundsystem wrote...

Nice to see Bioware and their employees being so rude to fans.

Reminds me not to buy another Bioware game. I will be voting with my wallet, and hope everyone else here will too.

Now.. what was that old saying about not biting the hand that feeds you..

You're confusing Chris Presley with Chris Priestley. I don't recommend jumping the gun on this.

[Aeyl]

Zulmoka531 wrote...

By the way, was it ever discovered who donated the 10k the other night?
For some reason it makes me think it (very slim theory here) may have been Martin Sheen, given his notable charity work in the past plus his involvement in ME3

Wow, so that's what made it jump so fast. I know I was just leaving the forums when it got to 12,000 last night.
I really am glad that the charity is going so well.

And we already have a good number of reviewers writing articles about how we're entitled and spoiled, so there's no real point in getting angry over them. People will have their opinions.

[Novouto]

ExileArin wrote...

People act like this isn't how charities raise funds ALL THE TIME. A very common one is entering a raffle to win a vacation when the proceeds go to a charity. I doubt anyone is standing by the raffle-ticket seller and yelling how everyone is selfish and horrible and just wants a vacation.

This x9000

[Elanor]

Is there any news? I haven't been here since yesterday...

[Matt_gekko88]

Bubi7 wrote...

haha, the destructoid comments are best.

*snip* Oh and f**** Liara *snip*

I certainly did, my friend. I did indeed.

The author Jim Sterling just wants attention, a typical attention wh... while he did not even lit up both sides, he just said "ending is fine as it is, stop your whining. even some charity fund won't help you"

Yeah, seems like Newt Gingrich to me.
Could be a good candidate for the Reps.
But okay, that's not our business.

[QwibQwib]

Max Knight wrote...

QwibQwib wrote...

Menthro wrote...

Max Knight wrote...

zarnk567 wrote...

MacNille wrote...

http://www.destructo...?s=100#comments
Jim Sterling doesn't have any high opionen about us.

Jim Sterling does not have high opinons for anyone other then himself...... his ego is as big as he is....

caming from thats is strange but..daam tha guys mus be the size of the moon.

Ladies and gents, enough, stop with the insults.

++50 

Guys I know his article is insensitive, but you are not better than him if you keep insulting him.

my apology then but guys like him are just pissing me of so much...i mean yeh some of us are doing the charity thingy which is good..but that...not very pleasant person, make us sound like ve are the biget douchebags this side of milkyway.

I feel you, i feel the same way. we can do this, let's keep holding the line!

[mulder1199]

dfstone wrote...

PresidentCowboy wrote...

dfstone wrote...

Its because they are right. The idea of trying to force them to change their game because you don't like the ending is ridiculous. The best thing to do is give them feedback on why you didn't like it so hopefully when they launch the next storyline for the Mass Effect universe, they make some improvements.

Again, there is no Mass Effect universe for a new storyline to be in, cause they destroyed the mass relays...

Sure there is.  Who's to say when the next storyline will be?  It could be in the distant future after the ME3 when a new kind of interstellar travel is developed.  It could be *gulps* pre-quel to ME1.  They could forget mass relays at all and just use FTL drives like they do in the game now.  Remember you can still travel to different stars without using a relay in the game right now. 

They have lots of options to continue the story.

you may want to talk to a different crowd...most of the folks that comment in here aren't buying anymore bioware product....

[TSC_1]

Apfelweinbrauer wrote...

TSC_1 wrote...

Okay. So if Bioware has decided that they want to preserve their artistic integrity, or something, by not changing the ending... why don't they just say that?

Excuse me, but this must be some kind of joke, right? Over the course of the three mass effect games they almost completely changed the writing team and now the ending can't be worked over due to artistic integrity?
Utterly ridiculous...

Well, I agree. I don't see the issue with changing (or adding to) the ending with a DLC. I mean, DLC that changes the plot has been planned this whole time. I don't see why this would be a problem.

What I'm saying, though, is that if Bioware, for some reason, has already decided not to release ending DLC... why not just tell us? The longer they go without saying something, the worse this is for them from a PR perspective.

Modifié par TSC_1, 14 mars 2012 - 04:01 .