So we can't get the ending we want after all?
#2751
Posté 29 février 2012 - 05:45
ALL IS NOT LOST!!!!!!!!!!!
#2752
Posté 29 février 2012 - 05:45
RiouHotaru wrote...
Another good reason to believe there's a happy ending:
Without some optimal ending to push for, the GAW and GR ratings are utterly meaningless. Where's the incentive to maximize your readiness on both scales if the endings are just so...sour.
More lives are saved, Shepard might live.
End.
#2753
Posté 29 février 2012 - 05:46
Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
Don't worry guys, EA have announced an official statement saying that they are releasing more happier endings as day 1 DLC.
ALL IS NOT LOST!!!!!!!!!!!
Good one, knowing EA I wouldn't be surprised.
#2754
Posté 29 février 2012 - 05:46
EJ107 wrote...
Sia_Sinblade wrote...
EJ107 wrote...
Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
Is anyone else annoyed that there is not ONE completely happy ending for everyone...
Theres not even a bittersweet ending really, unless Shepard dying alone and all of his friends and loved ones having to creating an incestuous colony while starving in the middle of nowhere counts as "Bittersweet".
Well, if you just saved the galaxy from being completely wiped out every 50k years, I guess that counts for some "sweetness".
But Earth is decimated, EDI is destroyed becuase she's based on Reaper technology, the Geth are all killed even though they aren't based on Reaper technology, and billions more will starve due to lack of supplies as the relay's are broken. About as "sweet" as a lemon.
Yes, you stopped the Reapers harvesting all life, but you do that in every ending. What is there to collect galactic readiness and war assets for?
Did I ever say it's a "sweet" ending?
I think I didn't.
The scale of destruction differs from what I have read. So that's the bitter part. The sweet part is that it won't happen again (like this).
#2755
Posté 29 février 2012 - 05:46
Chrillze wrote...
I also want Tom Jones in the game but thats a whole nother story
It would be painful for tom jones , it's my understanding that excessive chest hair is forbidden in the mass effect universe.
#2756
Posté 29 février 2012 - 05:46
Chrillze wrote...
On a more serious note I think it's kinda weird that they have been talking about how all your decisions matter but acording to these endings it won't make a difference
I just don't get how every single ending the normandy is lost. That makes no sense, and no one has give any proof to that claim. No source.
#2757
Posté 29 février 2012 - 05:47
Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
Don't worry guys, EA have announced an official statement saying that they are releasing more happier endings as day 1 DLC.
ALL IS NOT LOST!!!!!!!!!!!
Wut?
#2758
Posté 29 février 2012 - 05:47
I totally agree! This ending leaves you thinking "wow, after three games of chioces everyone gets screwed over, no matter what I did? Great thanks Bioware" Even replay value is shot with this type of outcome.Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
Here Here. I mean. I usually don't go for the "killing my own character in a heroic and noble way" ending, but if it's a toss up between killing my Shepard and allowed the crew mates and LI to live, or having Shepard / crew etc survive but Shepard never seeing any of his/her friends again? I'll go with the former. With pleasure.albertalad wrote...
BW would be crazy to have endings as suggested in this thread - who would even buy any of the add on content if it changed nothing? I wouldn't - what's the point for me or BW? What's the point of the game knowing you either cheated on your ME1 love interest if it made no difference in the end of this game at all? Sheppard still ends up with no love interest - you may as well shag every lady available with no consequences as regards to having closure as we were promised? Moreover, how did the Reapers get to earth with sub light engines at best? We're talking light years - and no object larger than a proton can be driven near light speed - and at Reaper mass that would require at best 1/10 light speed. Which would be hundreds of years to travel that distance with the Alpha relay destroyed. In turn that is the why of relays in the first place -
Sure someone could build a relay but the other end needs a relay as well - which places the galactic neighborhood back in the dark ages all over again. Massive loss for intergalactic trade and civilization. Every city on Earth is now literally destroyed and was within the fifteen minutes we have already seen - horrific price to pay both in lives and civilization - now THAT'S bittersweet in my books. Even if the Reapers are defeated the price for Earth is incalculably horrific - billions if not trillions of lives lost - that's BITTER in my books. Every race stranded from the other is NOT bittersweet - that's horrible in and of itself. Billions, if not trillion more will perish on a galactic scale. Unimaginable. That all makes absolutely no sense at all - the Reaper would then win the real war. That not only makes no sense but goes against the entire Sheppard story to this point in time.
Earth destroyed as a viable civilization, inner galactic commerce destroyed, Sheppard and crew forced apart, Sheppard not even with his L1 - that's NOT bittersweet, that's outright sadistic. Who could possible sell this crap to anyone with one live brain cell still functioning?
#2759
Posté 29 février 2012 - 05:47
EJ107 wrote...
Yes, you stopped the Reapers harvesting all life, but you do that in every ending. What is there to collect galactic readiness and war assets for?
Ensureing that we can beat the reapers at all, it seems. And it can apparently also decide the stat eof Earth in th eend. But in the end, no amount of galaxic readiness or war assets can change the fact that the relays will be destroyed and the Normandy tossed into some wormhole and end up lord knows where while Shepard dies or is stranded on the earth without his LI and his friends...
#2760
Posté 29 février 2012 - 05:47
ratzerman wrote...
I don't even want a super happy ending. I just want the possibility, the SLIGHTEST HINT that my Shepard might have a shot at happiness.
This.
#2761
Posté 29 février 2012 - 05:47
Oh yea. You read meDaftArbiter wrote...
Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
Don't worry guys, EA have announced an official statement saying that they are releasing more happier endings as day 1 DLC.
ALL IS NOT LOST!!!!!!!!!!!
Wut?
#2762
Posté 29 février 2012 - 05:48
DaftArbiter wrote...
Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
Don't worry guys, EA have announced an official statement saying that they are releasing more happier endings as day 1 DLC.
ALL IS NOT LOST!!!!!!!!!!!
Wut?
Sarcasm..
#2763
Posté 29 février 2012 - 05:48
Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
Don't worry guys, EA have announced an official statement saying that they are releasing more happier endings as day 1 DLC.
ALL IS NOT LOST!!!!!!!!!!!
Well it better be free <_<
#2764
Posté 29 février 2012 - 05:49
Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
Oh yea. You read meDaftArbiter wrote...
Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
Don't worry guys, EA have announced an official statement saying that they are releasing more happier endings as day 1 DLC.
ALL IS NOT LOST!!!!!!!!!!!
Wut?
Yeah except that never happened. Don't get your hopes up.
#2765
Posté 29 février 2012 - 05:49
“Yeah, and I’d say much more so, because we have the
ability to build the endings out in a way that we don’t have to worry
about eventually tying them back together somewhere. This story arc is
coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot
more different. At this point we’re taking into account so many
decisions that you’ve made as a player and reflecting a lot of that
stuff. It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where
you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B,
or C.“It’s more like there are some really obvious things that are
different and then lots and lots of smaller things, lots of things about
who lives and who dies, civilizations that rose and fell, all the way
down to individual characters. That becomes the state of where you left
your galaxy. The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in
them.”
gamerant.com/mass-effect-3-different-every-player-dyce-124489/
He and all the Bioware PR people have said our decisions will matter so anyone trying to tell you the outcome is largely pre-canned is lying.
[/endsarcasm]
#2766
Posté 29 février 2012 - 05:49
RiouHotaru wrote...
Another good reason to believe there's a happy ending:
Without some optimal ending to push for, the GAW and GR ratings are utterly meaningless. Where's the incentive to maximize your readiness on both scales if the endings are just so...sour.
I 100% agree with you that these endings don't make sense. I mean, who would replay any of the games? Who would buy DLC, unless you're just there for gameplay? Even if you like dark endings, is there enough variation there to warrant replays? And if you don't like grim endings, you'll just gamestop it.
Unfortunately, I just don't 100% agree with you that they aren't real. I can see Bioware writers cracking under the pressure to produce something epic and mistakenly buying into the concept that it has to be emotional and dark for it to be artistic. Unfortunately, since Bioware writers aren't really top-grade, for them emotional and dark could be rather limited in scope.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy Bioware writing - they use the tropes well and make some fun - but they aren't terribly imaginative.
#2767
Posté 29 février 2012 - 05:49
Brightspoon wrote...
DaftArbiter wrote...
Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
Don't worry guys, EA have announced an official statement saying that they are releasing more happier endings as day 1 DLC.
ALL IS NOT LOST!!!!!!!!!!!
Wut?
Sarcasm..
Oh. I thought we had an insane optimist.
#2768
Posté 29 février 2012 - 05:50
its sets up for it to be possible both the leaked script and this
http://pastebin.ca/2122325
#2769
Posté 29 février 2012 - 05:50
BioWare has spent the last five years or so telling us that the Reapers are unstoppable. That they have powers that no sentient or organic species could possibly comprehend. They are also completely mysterious, thought to be a myth. And this cycle has been repeating itself for millions of years. Eliminating civilizations that were far more advanced and powerful than ours is.
To suddenly be able to defeat them and have everything be wine and roses at the end would absolutely be the proverbial "god out of the machine" moment. Pun intended.
#2770
Posté 29 février 2012 - 05:50
Whoa, whoa, hold up there. According to Tank, EDI doesn't get destroyed in the Merge ending, but I think she still survives with the other two endings if you got the "best" outcome of that choice. I may be wrong, but I clearly remember that Tank said that Joker and EDI walk out of the Normandy and hug in the Merge ending.EJ107 wrote...
But Earth is decimated, EDI is destroyed becuase she's based on Reaper technology, the Geth are all killed even though they aren't based on Reaper technology, and billions more will starve due to lack of supplies as the relay's are broken. About as "sweet" as a lemon.
Yes, you stopped the Reapers harvesting all life, but you do that in every ending. What is there to collect galactic readiness and war assets for?
EDIT: Okay, EDI only survives if you pick the Merge/Synergy ending.
Modifié par Elegana, 29 février 2012 - 05:51 .
#2771
Posté 29 février 2012 - 05:51
Mims wrote...
A true dark ending would be letting the reapers win. You can't even do that. It isn't just that people want a happy ending, they want a variance. There is no variance, just varying levels of destruction. No matter what you do, at least three things always happen.
Happy ending? Are you kidding? Sheoppard killed in action at the start of ME2! Even Sheppard's so called friends turned their backs on him. The Alliance believe he is a traitor. The council said as much he was a traitor. He is forced into working for TIM despite their former crimes in a higher cause. Anderson doesn't even trust him because Sheppard in working with TIM. Sheppard is forced into destroying millions of lives and now faces trial - YOU call any of that happy? Sheppard can't even get his L1 to join him in ME2. YOU call that happy? That I and other want Sheppard to live and have some sort of life with his L1 with trillions of lives lost, earth literally destroyed as a viable civilization - YOU call that happy ending?
#2772
Posté 29 février 2012 - 05:51
NO WHERE DOES IT SAY THE NORMANDY IS STRANDED ALONE.
#2773
Posté 29 février 2012 - 05:52
Sashimi_taco wrote...
Chrillze wrote...
On a more serious note I think it's kinda weird that they have been talking about how all your decisions matter but acording to these endings it won't make a difference
I just don't get how every single ending the normandy is lost. That makes no sense, and no one has give any proof to that claim. No source.
The claim comes from Tank and Xio on the SA forums. One is a tester for ME3 (which he proved by showing images of gameplay a long time ago) and the other has the Space Edition (which he proved by posting images of the physical games). Everything they have said gels with everything else that has been leaked so far.
#2774
Posté 29 février 2012 - 05:52
As I said waaaaaaaay back on page 30 something, without context these endings lose their meaning. If the plot spells it out for you, then that's somewhat ok, rather than the ending being all epic and then suddenly we're trolled. Basically, I want the "good" ending to be necessary because we're informed that for life to continue, civilastion needs to be reset or taken down a peg.
#2775
Posté 29 février 2012 - 05:53
This isn't bittersweet. It's Fridge Horror. Everyone traveling in the entire galaxy when this goes down is going to die a cold, lonely death in deep space. Those just in orbit will die a hot death on rentry since their engines won't work anymore. Every car in the galaxy will spontaneously crash. Imagine what Omega will be like once there will be no more food coming in, ever. On in any place where there isn't sufficient supply to feed everyone or give them air to breathe.
Crimey, the only way this could be more horrible is if Nurgle were to show up.




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