So we can't get the ending we want after all?
#28176
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 06:28
#28177
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 06:28
TSC_1 wrote...
This sort of thing again. Basically, it goes like this:
Fan: Loved the game!
Bioware: Great! Did you... er... finish the game?
Sounds like they're trying to judge just how bad the reaction among fans is to the ending.
Maybe they just want to get glimpse of how many fans have already finished the game.
Maybe if the mayority has...
#28178
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 06:28
Please donate to the charity. If they ignore us, at least we helped some unfortunate kids out. Link is in my signature.
#28179
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 06:28
Eghh... so, because of this leak they decide to punish us all with the half-brained trick? That's bad business practice: don't take my word for it, listen to Forbes. It also shows a complete lack of insight on their own customers, if this is a surprise to them, OR, they knew it would upset people and did it anyway? Like, how dare you read about leaked content, take that you bastard customers? Really?RomanDark wrote...
Rheinlandman wrote...
FOX216BC wrote...
If they do not give us better options (dlc) for the ending, than it looks bad for EA if they counting on making money out of future dlc's.
Also if this is bioware's way to prepare us for a new chapter in ME universe by ending a great trilogy like this is unacceptable.
It's not ending the trilogy, it's killing it.
And if mister hudson stands by "his" ending.
Than clearly Bioware made the game for themselves and not for the fans.
I hope this "the truht dlc" rumor is real and i can apologize to Bioware for all my comments.
If it true don't apologize, make sure they understand this kind of marketing stunt is totes uncool.
Perhaps it wasn't marketing, "the leak" says that this dlc was a reaction to the leaked script from November, since ME3 was already pushed to March at that point how would it look if they pushed it back again to geth The Truth out on time. If it truly is them fixing the ending based on Fan reactions to the leaked script then I can get over it
And Casey? Please, stop using the BS spin words. You're more intelligent than that, and so are we.
Unpopular != controversial
Everyone agreees that it's horribad != polarizing
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
#28180
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 06:29
RatedRRachel wrote...
Makatak wrote...
Look, any expert storyteller will tell you that the most important 10 minutes of any story, of any considerable length, are the first five minutes, and the last five minutes. Everything in between is filler. In novels, you need that opening paragraph to be gripping enough to reel in the audience for the ride. In a game, that tutorial mission better have something that gets players going. And then, you'd better wrap it up neatly.
Bioware could've written the most amazing story since the Bible, and capped it off as they did, and we would rail about it, maybe even moreso, because no matter the middle, the last 5 minutes are what people will walk away singing.
They should have considered this when writing.
Even if the ending might not be considered the most "important" by all (like those who say 'it's the journey, not the destination'), it normally will be one of the most lasting images of the work. I don't want my lasting memories of this series to be those endings. My last thoughts of some of my favorite imaginary characters are either taling to a Star-Child or stranded on an unknown planet.
So, according to the people who say the most important thing is the journey, not the destination, they wouldn't mind buying a ticket to Paris and being dumped in Haiti (Nothing against Haiti, been there, loved it, but it's no Paris).
When people say the most important thing is the journey, what they actually mean is that how you achieved your goal is as important or moreso than achieving it. I wouldn't do anything morally questionable to get what I want, neither in real life nor in games (Paragon for real), and that's the meaning of it...
As we have seen many real life heroes giving up their lives because they believe in the cause the are fighting for (soldiers, cops, firemen, etc) and thats just the begginning of it. Now we have a case of real life irony meets virtual life irony. I know many soldiers that were more than disappointed (some angry and beyond) due to the lies related to the las Iraq war. They were sent there on false assumptions, therefore the reason they were fighting (protect the USA from bio weapons) was all a lie, and it could lead to nothing but disappointment.
Here on ME3 (virtual life) we faced a similar situation. We were told over and over that our in-game choices were important, that our story mattered somehow, and we could make a difference (does it sound familiar?) only to be told later that it was all a lie..
If the destination is meaningless, the journey becomes so, but if the destination is meaningful, even if you do not reach it, the journey will still hold to its value...
#28181
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 06:29
TSC_1 wrote...
This sort of thing again. Basically, it goes like this:
Fan: Loved the game!
Bioware: Great! Did you... er... finish the game?
Sounds like they're trying to judge just how bad the reaction among fans is to the ending.
Something like this:
Fan: Finally finished ME3
Bioware: We are glad. Did you enjoy it?
Fan: NO! (slimshady ha ha laugh)
would be funny
#28182
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 06:29
Is this compression or has no one bothered to data mine the discs for hints at upcoming DLC assets they pre-loaded before it hit gold?
#28183
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 06:29
TSC_1 wrote...
Also interesting.
There was a typo. It's "The end was bad" not "sad".
And if there was any doubt that they would continue (one might even say exploit) the ME franchise. <_<
#28184
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 06:30
Hold the line!
#28185
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 06:30
Just a quick question (well two).
1) My friend has asked me if he should buy ME3. I know he will take my advice. Should I tell him to not buy it because of the ending? If so he will miss what was otherwise an amazing game.
2) How many of you think Bioware has something up its sleve I.E the dream/indoc theory?
I wouldnt mind if they kept stum over it because it wasnt quite finish the game in time and so plan on sending it out over a DLC.
Hold the line my people!
#28186
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 06:30
http://www.honestgam...iews/10086.html
Modifié par CimCake, 14 mars 2012 - 06:31 .
#28187
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 06:31
Matt_gekko88 wrote...
TSC_1 wrote...
This sort of thing again. Basically, it goes like this:
Fan: Loved the game!
Bioware: Great! Did you... er... finish the game?
Sounds like they're trying to judge just how bad the reaction among fans is to the ending.
Maybe they just want to get glimpse of how many fans have already finished the game.
Maybe if the mayority has...
Actually? This tells us more than it seems. It means the idea that they knew this would cause backlash is out the window, mostly. It lowers the chances of this being "the plan all along." Because if they KNEW this would happen, they wouldn't be waiting until more people play / finish it.
Since they're waiting until more people play it, it means they are surprised by the reaction, and hoping against hope that, somehow, the 90% of us who have finished the game so far and hated the ending will turn out to be a vocal minority. In defiance of all statistical probabilities, they are hoping that as more people play it, a greater and greater percentage will love the endings as they are, and fewer and fewer will be upset by it.
This tells me they had no idea this was coming.
#28188
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 06:31
Bashing us in an article that isn't even about the main game. Just artbook and some doodles for MP ..If you're suddenly in need of this art book, you can visit Dark Horse Digital and plunk down $25 for a copy.
Unless you're too busy being entitled and petulant about the end of Mass Effect 3. That's cool too, I guess.
That's soooo low... i feel an urge for insults. *gulp*
Modifié par Sunnyhat1, 14 mars 2012 - 06:32 .
#28189
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 06:31
kongenial wrote...
laughing sherpa girl wrote...
Just woke up.. any news besides that abominable omega thing??
Hold the line
"They talk that there will be some new endings with a DLC"
"They talk a lot"
"Yes, they do"
::chuckles:: THAT seems about right on time for them..
Lets keep the pressure on till we see something concrete and not just promises..
Hold the line..
#28190
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 06:31
Cybermortis wrote...
Apfelweinbrauer wrote...
rethas wrote...
But the guy I was replying to stated EA's share went from $50 to what it is now which was simply a lie and spreading mis-information.
That was not exactly a lie, since EAs stocks dropped that hard in 2008 due to the financial crisis at this time, maybe he just made a mistake by using this numbers, so don't be too harsh on him, I don't think he did this on purpose.
Quote correct, I was in fact going off the figures that were listed on the stock-chart I linked to. This indicated that the highest price in the last 52 weeks was around $50 - I'd guess that this figure was probably around the time the MMO was released. (I can't imagine the share price being all that high after Dragon Age 2 was released)
The figures for the last two weeks or so indicate a starting figure around 17, rising to just over 25 on the day ME3 was released in the US. The figure fell to below 20 after three days - the same point where people were starting to finish the game. The figure jumped back above 25 when ME3 was released in Europe...only to fall again to between 16-17 over the next several days.
It can't be coincidence that the increase in stock prices appear at the exact time the game was released, and fall at the same time people were starting to finish the game and voice their displeasure. After all Mass Effect is/was Biowares main title and one of the most anticipated games of the year. By rights the stock price should not have fallen this far this fast if the game was doing well or expected to continue to sell. The only logical conclusion is that the reaction to ME3 has resulted in a lack of confidence in EA and its titles from investors, and that lack of confidence can only have come from the complains made by the gamers and the effects they must be having on sales.
Worse is that by not doing or saying anything BW/EA is only going to make this worse.
If EA/BW do nothing then they will have alienated a rather large chunk of their customer base. The same holds if they do produce an DLC to change the ending and charge for it. In both cases future sales are going to suffer badly, and investors are smart enough to realise this. Forbes said much the same thing in one of their articles yesterday, noting that the only way to salvage the situation in both the short and long term is to do exactly what we have been asking for, and make it a free DLC.
I am not sure what stock market you are looking at.
EA has not been at anything close to $25 before the release of mass effect 3.
Please look at Nasdaq.com
EA was at $25 In November, In January it was $21 several days before the release of mass effect 3 it was around the 16.5-17 mark.
To the person that replied stating I was wrong for saying this guy was spreading mis information, perhaps he is just mistaken but it is giving the wrong impression that the ending for Mass Effect 3 is drastically changing the stock price.
Which it isn't.
#28191
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 06:32
thisAlamandorious wrote...
Reminder:
Please donate to the charity. If they ignore us, at least we helped some unfortunate kids out. Link is in my signature.
#28192
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 06:32
tompuddefoot wrote...
OK everyone,
Just a quick question (well two).
1) My friend has asked me if he should buy ME3. I know he will take my advice. Should I tell him to not buy it because of the ending? If so he will miss what was otherwise an amazing game.
2) How many of you think Bioware has something up its sleve I.E the dream/indoc theory?
I wouldnt mind if they kept stum over it because it wasnt quite finish the game in time and so plan on sending it out over a DLC.
Hold the line my people!
I would tell him to wait at this point, then base your recomendation on whether or not bioware had any intentions on finishing it out.
#28193
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 06:32
Excellent question, it's worth warning him about the ending. The rest is up to him.tompuddefoot wrote...
OK everyone,
Just a quick question (well two).
1) My friend has asked me if he should buy ME3. I know he will take my advice. Should I tell him to not buy it because of the ending? If so he will miss what was otherwise an amazing game.
2) How many of you think Bioware has something up its sleve I.E the dream/indoc theory?
I wouldnt mind if they kept stum over it because it wasnt quite finish the game in time and so plan on sending it out over a DLC.
Hold the line my people!
#28194
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 06:32
#28195
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 06:33
If he liked ME1/2, and has an import, the answer is yes: as horrible as the end is, it's worth completing the saga.
If it'd be their first game or they don't care about ME, no.
If they don't have much disposable income, the answer is also no.
Modifié par PKchu, 14 mars 2012 - 06:33 .
#28196
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 06:33
tompuddefoot wrote...
OK everyone,
Just a quick question (well two).
1) My friend has asked me if he should buy ME3. I know he will take my advice. Should I tell him to not buy it because of the ending? If so he will miss what was otherwise an amazing game.
2) How many of you think Bioware has something up its sleve I.E the dream/indoc theory?
I wouldnt mind if they kept stum over it because it wasnt quite finish the game in time and so plan on sending it out over a DLC.
Hold the line my people!
1) tell him to buy the game later till we know more about bioware, just tell him he should be patient
2) i don't know at all if they still got something up their sleeve. i really just hope it badly, mass effect didn't get the end that it deserves and i want to see my shep and tali living on f rannoch!
#28197
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 06:33
Mr Chr15topher wrote...
http://www.gamefront...ns-are-right/1/
Just wanted to repost this to show that we are starting to be taken seriously. KEEP HOLDING THAT LINE PEOPLE!
Yes, I have read that and it sums up my feelings on the subject. Especially the part of feeling cheated by the nonsence spouted with a brass band about real choices making a difference.
You know, when I started playing ME3 having played 1 and 2, I made the comment to a friend that this could likely be the best all time game ever. Now that the end has arrived, I feel disappointment and disalusionment.
It seems or was quoted from an interview with Casey Hudson in Tom Ivan's article for computerandvideogames.com that Casey made the statement that the ending was what he intended. I think Casey forgets that it's not him that keeps the business running. It's the fans who pay for the games. FYI in case you don't know, Casey is the Games Director. Maybe someone from EA needs to have a talk with those Bioware people.
Oh and yea, they knew the storm was coming. Hence the "Big Change" in the forum rules. Were you thinking something else?
I will never buy another game from bioware, certainly not a pre-order for $80. Maybe when one hits the back shelf sale for $5.
#28198
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 06:33
I stopped right after the beam up to godchildland.
#28199
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 06:33
http://www.destructo...ng-223810.phtml
#28200
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 06:33
Slayer299 wrote...
Mr Chr15topher wrote...
http://www.gamefront...ns-are-right/1/
Just wanted to repost this to show that we are starting to be taken seriously. KEEP HOLDING THAT LINE PEOPLE!
Thanks for that link!, great article
the twitter feed from the authors should help the cause....




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