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[Ketten]

Hey guys, been a lurker for a while, but here's to hoping that "End DLC" has some measure of truth to it. I have hope that BioWare won't destroy the last remaining shred of faith I have in them because I consider them to still be the best story-driven company out there.

Hold the line!

[mulder1199]

PrimeMN wrote...

Apfelweinbrauer wrote...

Cybermortis wrote...

I mused, about 100 pages ago, that I could understand the logic behind having the 'real' ending as a DLC - especially since anyone who gets the game needs online access to activate the game.

Are you sure about this? My brother bought the X-Box version of ME3 and he doesn't have X-Box Live or an internet connection on his console, so that means he won't be able to play the game in the first place (lucky him), or is online activation only mandatory for PC gamers?

your brother will still be able to play without issue....unfortunately for him, he'll still be disappointed by the end, xbox live or not....
I don't think you are unable to play the game on Xbox if you don't go online. I think you are obviously unable to play MP or download any multi-player. I could be wrong. I just entered the code and continued on.

[Ampmaster]

Bioware needs to give us Deeds not words

[Darth Garrus]

I just wish to acknowledge how much I love and respect Bioware. They produced my favorite games, and the ME series is the best. The only solo game that I loved more is also from them: Kotor!

I, and most everyone here, do not wish to sever any relation with BW. But I think Bioware may (may!) not be understanding our point. I think they may feel all this is unfair because they worked hard to respect the wishes of fans between games, and they are working on the supposedly DLC that will make everything right.

But we don´t know that! We had a game with a lousy ending! Period.

So far, BW may have planned a great campaign ending. A great surprise. It would be the new way of marketing and of making the fans "extra happy". I can imagine the meeting when someone said: "let´s make an ending that covers the story, but it´s just a dream". After a month or two playing, we release a surprise, and already satisfied fans will be even more happy".

But there was one problem with it. The game ending didn´t hold the fans. They hated it. It was badly realized.

It was an idea, but didn´t work. And the fans are disappointed with that idea. They now know of it, and don´t agree with it.

So, I think the best course would be for BW to try to be in the fans' shoes, or at least listen to the profound "unhappiness" that it caused, even if it would be substituted by joy after the DLC release, and come forward with news and, maybe, say they are sorry. And realize this is a course that should not be repeated. Tried; didn´t work; let´s move on.

After all, a DLC should never be fundamental to a full game you bought. It should just complement it, add side quests or equipment. Let´s not start a bad trend with it.

Modifié par Darth Suetam, 14 mars 2012 - 07:01 .

[Game_Fan_85]

beyondsolo wrote...

FOX216BC wrote...

 What about the 2 squad members that are whit you in the final run in London.I picked ash and liara, how the hell did Ash end up in the normandy? Or Liara depending on my final"choice". It's not just a bad ending, it doesn't make any sense.

That's the one plothole that gives me no rest. Wouldn't it be completely out of character for them to abandon Shepard at this moment? At first I though they were dead, so I dragged my shattered Shepard through the Citadel, thinking, "For you, Ash, and for our friends!" And then she steps out of the crashed Normandy, not even a hint of sad on her face. And I'm pretty sure it's the same thing with Liara and Kaidan. If Shepard was unconscious for long enough for the entire ground team to get evacuated, fine. Maybe the Reapers killed the beam to the Citadel after Shepard and Anderson got on board. But again, there is no evidence to support it. No Ashley getting dragged flailing and screaming into the evac shuttle/cargo bay, no sadness at the very end. Nothing. As if the characters in-game were realizing how pointless the ending was...

The happy look on the Kaidan's face bugged me.  Kaidan should be grieving for him not smilling damn it.  And by the way, even Cortez steps off the Normandy if he is the LI, probably Sam as well.  It's always the LI.  This puts so many thoughts in my head I wish they would just answer already.

[Benirus]

DJ Shepard wrote...

lol I think people who love the ending without seeing it because we hate it. need a life.

Thats the thing isn't it, they gain nurishment and energy by doing it

[Pikey Mikey]

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Hydralysk wrote...

Wow that was my squad as well. Can't say I was mortified that Tali and Garrus didn't get vaporized, but since they'll starve/succumb to sickness within a month it pretty much had the same outcome.

Hah. I never thought of that. Well maybe they got lucky and the planet they landed on was dextro based not levo based DNA. So yay.... the others die a slow horrible death instead...

Ugh. Can't win any way.

Yup... However you play, in the end there is an enormous fleet at Earth with no way home, there is no Citadel and your crew is marooned on... some planet somewhere.

[Elidor109]

Mr Chr15topher wrote...

This is the extract that I found on the mass effect wiki:
New True Ending All AlongEdit
A few hours ago an anonymous user who leaked the multiplayer DLC (just an hour earlier) has claimed that the ending fiasco was deliberate because of the game’s storyline being leaked. They changed it so they could have more time to prepare the real ending DLC.
It is called “The Truth”, and will be released in April or May… You will be able to continue your story if you picked any of the endings. Your decision during the sequence will have a big effect on the ending of The Truth. Also, The Truth adds two new sets of enemies, new classes, and multiplayer maps, including “Firebase Hive”, which is a small area of the last remaining Collector Ship included in the DLC, which, by the way, you should definitely bring Javik the Prothean along if you have them.

The following picture shows some of the leaked multiplayer classes and races. One race that isn’t shown is the Prothean Adept and Vanguard. This DLC also, enables the ability for owners of the preorder and From Ashes DLC to find their DLC weapons in reinforcement packs.

All of that content, and this might as well be labelled an expansion.

And it’s Free!

You do realize that, if this isn't ture, I'll likely go on a murderous rampage.

[Militarized]

Just woke up, any news from the front?!

[Matt_gekko88]

Ampmaster wrote...

Bioware needs to give us Deeds not words

They also give us no concrete words, though...

[Abbraxas00]

Game_Fan_85 wrote...

beyondsolo wrote...

FOX216BC wrote...

 What about the 2 squad members that are whit you in the final run in London.I picked ash and liara, how the hell did Ash end up in the normandy? Or Liara depending on my final"choice". It's not just a bad ending, it doesn't make any sense.

That's the one plothole that gives me no rest. Wouldn't it be completely out of character for them to abandon Shepard at this moment? At first I though they were dead, so I dragged my shattered Shepard through the Citadel, thinking, "For you, Ash, and for our friends!" And then she steps out of the crashed Normandy, not even a hint of sad on her face. And I'm pretty sure it's the same thing with Liara and Kaidan. If Shepard was unconscious for long enough for the entire ground team to get evacuated, fine. Maybe the Reapers killed the beam to the Citadel after Shepard and Anderson got on board. But again, there is no evidence to support it. No Ashley getting dragged flailing and screaming into the evac shuttle/cargo bay, no sadness at the very end. Nothing. As if the characters in-game were realizing how pointless the ending was...

The happy look on the Kaidan's face bugged me.  Kaidan should be grieving for him not smilling damn it.  And by the way, even Cortez steps off the Normandy if he is the LI, probably Sam as well.  It's always the LI.  This puts so many thoughts in my head I wish they would just answer already.

my LI was miranda and she stepped put in just one of the scenes...

[WvStolzing]

Mr Chr15topher wrote...

This is the extract that I found on the mass effect wiki:
New True Ending All AlongEdit
A few hours ago an anonymous user who leaked the multiplayer DLC (just an hour earlier) has claimed that the ending fiasco was deliberate because of the game’s storyline being leaked. They changed it so they could have more time to prepare the real ending DLC.
It is called “The Truth”, and will be released in April or May… You will be able to continue your story if you picked any of the endings. Your decision during the sequence will have a big effect on the ending of The Truth. Also, The Truth adds two new sets of enemies, new classes, and multiplayer maps, including “Firebase Hive”, which is a small area of the last remaining Collector Ship included in the DLC, which, by the way, you should definitely bring Javik the Prothean along if you have them.

The following picture shows some of the leaked multiplayer classes and races. One race that isn’t shown is the Prothean Adept and Vanguard. This DLC also, enables the ability for owners of the preorder and From Ashes DLC to find their DLC weapons in reinforcement packs.

All of that content, and this might as well be labelled an expansion.

And it’s Free!

Frankly all of this sounds a little 'too good to be true'. 

[Nex_Legis]

Ampmaster wrote...

Bioware needs to give us Deeds not words

Words would be a start, we haven't even had any of those yet.

[Tyion133]

Militarized wrote...

Just woke up, any news from the front?!

Not alot, but more and more soldiers continue joining the fight.

Hold the line!

[dfstone]

Ya know there is a way they could alter the endings and still keep their artistic integrity. If they add DLC that happens pre-final battle, they could say that the end result of those DLCs could alter the finale in the main-game. Just a thought.

[Lord Costantino]

 Finished the game a few nights ago...here to help hold the line! Any news at all? I have been following this for awhile now.

[Nilofeliu]

Yuoaman wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

Yeah, even if we don't get anything from Bioware, the charity will have made it worth it. I'm so glad to have been a part of this.

You dont have to hope, but, dont lose hope either.  Hope is the main thing the reapers try to take from shepard, and its the first thing bioware has tried to take from us. Dont lose hope, and if you do, keep going anyway.

I'm not saying I still don't hope Bioware will recognize this, I'm just saying that it's been a great thing to stand behind.

I have already moved to the acceptance phase. I´ve been in this same spot before and it didn't lead anywhere. That's the problem when dealing with the major companies in the gaming industry, since they believe they are above the rules and can do as they please.

Right now, I do not hope for a new ending, honestly I just don't care any longer about Mass Effect at all. However I do care about the movement. If we can prove that we are right, that we as customers have rights that cannot be forgotten or simply dismissed this fight, our fight, will already be a major victory.

My stand is not about ME3 endings; I am holding the line because this time they have gone too far. Bioware/EA crossed a line no respectable company should ever cross when they took upon themselves to give whatever they "believed" was good enough, as if we hadn't paid for it.

This entire new paid The Truth DLC situation is even worse. It sounds as we are beggers asking for a free meal, or a dog after a bone. They do not acknowledge us as their own customer's base, and they do not accept their accountability regarding their choices and poor management.

So my friends, my comrades and brothers in arms, this is the line. This is where we say enough. Enough with the cons, enough with the lies, enough with the morbid silence hoping we will go way because we won't...

"Remember, remember the fifth of November
the Gunpowder, Treason and Plot
I see no reason why the Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot"

"There are of course those who do not want us to speak. I suspect even now, orders are being shouted into telephones, and men with guns will soon be on their way. Why? Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this Game (country), isn't there?"

Still holding the line

Modifié par Nilofeliu, 14 mars 2012 - 07:05 .

[N7 Theo]

Home from school, back on the forum. Any news from Bioware?

[Game_Fan_85]

spacefiddle wrote...

Also - Cortez lived in mine.  Wonder what the difference was?  I spoke to him a lot, let him down gently (scene in Purgatory where he talks about eye candy - the wheel choice is very obvious, but then the actual response Shep gives is a polite "I'm going to make it obvious I'm not interested without being a jerk"), and I helped.  Ahah.  I helped him find closure over the death of his husband; he finally let go, and left Robert's picture at the memorial wall.  I suspect your Cortez didn't have that closure and didn't have that extra motivation to live and carry on?

If you complete the friendship or romance story with him, he does not die.

[morph4037]

spacefiddle wrote...

Darkwingduck wrote...

Not sure if someone has pointed this out yet but Destructoid is asking for opinions on ME3's ending

http://www.destructo...ng-223810.phtml

The comments section there is a wretched hive of scum and villainy.  Don't bother, it's a troll-fest.  Well.  Don't bother getting caught up in the nonsense, anyway: if you want, please adhere to the etiquette we've agreed upon here and post a short, clear comment on how you feel and why.  Expect to be trolled.  Don't bother reading responses.

Agreed. And considering the quality of writers they have (read: Jim Sterling) it's no shock that's how their fanbase acts. 

[vboy23]

Lord Costantino wrote...

 Finished the game a few nights ago...here to help hold the line! Any news at all? I have been following this for awhile now.

Nothing solid yet, just articles talking about the group, and the usual vague answers at best from staff.

[unclee]

Usual reminder: Let's make sure to keep things civil and the Bioware bashing to a minimum. It's easy to start getting angry but the longer we stay cool the better chance they'll take us seriously. So let's stay cool!

[mulder1199]

dfstone wrote...

Ya know there is a way they could alter the endings and still keep their artistic integrity. If they add DLC that happens pre-final battle, they could say that the end result of those DLCs could alter the finale in the main-game. Just a thought.

problem is, they can say this now and still be correct (at least in their minds) as the dlc could give you more war assests ems, and get the 'perfect ending' (i use this term with an extreme amount of sarcasm)

[pharsti]

Ive been following this thread for quite awhile now, and i believe that despite this being an amazing community (one that i really only started participating now, since im not into forums), overall everyone is polite and the charity is outstanding.

I dont agree completely with the idea that the endings are "completely awful", apart from the Normandy and the squadmates issue i can accept everything that happened just fine. I will agree that the ending lacked the same consistency i saw throught the game, felt like a rushed cutscene to end what has been literally hundreds of hours across different characters, and worst of all, that i feel no need whatsoever to replay this game with all those other characters.
I have 4 Shepards, i finished the game with my main one, and im stuck not really seeing any point to keep playing it.... which sucks since i scheduled my holidays to coinside with the week afterwards expecting to spend the whole holidays playing and replaying the game, was i wrong.

If nothing else, the current state of the ending completely destroys replayability and is a blatant lie if you remember everything theyve said the ending would be.

And with all that said, i dont believe they will release a single thing, be it an announcement, statement, or dlc that will deal with the issues so many people seem to have with the ending.... which is their right, they think thats how everything should end, and fans will either have to accept that (like i do) or not accept it, and file this as one of the worst endings given to one of the greatest games ever.


Huge rant this ended up being >_>

[Atraiyu Wrynn]

Militarized wrote...

Just woke up, any news from the front?!

Bioware still thinks ending is super awesome.