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Alamandorious

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I've decided; this is my background music for this.



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Game_Fan_85 wrote...

Abbraxas00 wrote...

Game_Fan_85 wrote...

beyondsolo wrote...

FOX216BC wrote...

 What about the 2 squad members that are whit you in the final run in London.I picked ash and liara, how the hell did Ash end up in the normandy? Or Liara depending on my final"choice". It's not just a bad ending, it doesn't make any sense.:blink:


That's the one plothole that gives me no rest. Wouldn't it be completely out of character for them to abandon Shepard at this moment? At first I though they were dead, so I dragged my shattered Shepard through the Citadel, thinking, "For you, Ash, and for our friends!" And then she steps out of the crashed Normandy, not even a hint of sad on her face. And I'm pretty sure it's the same thing with Liara and Kaidan. If Shepard was unconscious for long enough for the entire ground team to get evacuated, fine. Maybe the Reapers killed the beam to the Citadel after Shepard and Anderson got on board. But again, there is no evidence to support it. No Ashley getting dragged flailing and screaming into the evac shuttle/cargo bay, no sadness at the very end. Nothing. As if the characters in-game were realizing how pointless the ending was... Image IPB


The happy look on the Kaidan's face bugged me.  Kaidan should be grieving for him not smilling damn it.  And by the way, even Cortez steps off the Normandy if he is the LI, probably Sam as well.  It's always the LI.  This puts so many thoughts in my head I wish they would just answer already.


my LI was miranda and she stepped put in just one of the scenes...

You silly, ME2 LI's don't matter in ME3 ;) 


That's not what I was trying to say. Sorry if it came across that way. To be honest, I couldn't get myself to import any Shep with a ME2 LI yet because there's a lot less contact with them than with the original three. I guess those with continued ME2 romances must be even more pissed than I am.

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RussianOrc wrote...

Kotaku is definitely on the other side of the trenches....
http://kotaku.com/58...o-mass-effect-3


Kotaku can yell all they like, but it won't silence the tens of thousands of us who stand here holding fast against their completely baffling and illogical articles. Let them spew their gibberish in an attempt to strum up drama and increase site traffic, we'll be here holding strong and fighting for what we all believe is right. 

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Temtimtom wrote...

Lord Costantino wrote...

I actually didn't mind the ME3 romances being THAT different from the ones from the first game. Thought it gave a little flavor of difference. I can see where people are coming from when they say they don't like them though.


Guys, ON TOPIC, please. It feels like this whole movement is slowly losing its edge. There will be nothing if we keep up everything.


That said, I had always imagined that the end would be that Shepard is the catalyst and could be able to sacrifice him for the good of the galaxy.

And if you romanced Tali you would see her without a helmet on her planet giving you the last honor for that you'll be together for the rest of time.

Edit: And then she says with sorrow "I'm sorry Shepard" *shed a tear*

Modifié par kongenial, 14 mars 2012 - 07:22 .


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Hard to keep up with this thread. There's 2 pages every few minutes. :P

Just a few things I wanted to touch on:

I saw the interview with Casey Hudson about the ending and how he wanted something polarizing and that would be remembered. I can understand that, but you definitely don't want to be remembered in a negative way. It's a sure way to drive people away in the future.

If the DLC thing is true, it would ease the pain, that's for sure. However, it would still make me very wary of anything I buy from them (or EA in general) in the future. Which is a shame, because I've been a hardcore fan since the first Baldur's Gate, I've owned ever Bioware game since then, and I even enjoyed DA2. True, it was a massive step back from DA:O, but I still felt I got my money's worth.

With so much history with ME, though, the ambiguous, inconclusive ending at the end of a trilogy will always be remembered as a stain, no matter how they patch it up. It would be like going to a movie, getting some weird stuff at the end and then being told "Sorry, if you want to see the real ending, you've got to come back in a couple of months and cough up a few bucks."

I can understand them not wanting the ending leaked. I just think they've handled the whole thing poorly.

Kee'lah se'lai.

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Convinced a friend earlier to not buy Mass Effect 3. At least not until it's very cheap or we get an ending DLC:

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I must admit to being somewhat disheartened by the negative spin a lot of gaming websites are giving this. I know support for this cause is improving, but we'd have thought there would be more discussion that just dismissing our claims.

With regards to the whole charitable donations don't give us a right to expect anything to be done is short sighted and offensive. If we were really that entitled all we'd be doing is b*tching about this, and if that's what they prefer then let me know. I have no plans this evening and so am good to go all night!

What's happening is the fans are experiencing real disappointment and rather channeling our energy into unstructured complaints and self important posturing, we're metaphorically turning the other cheek and doing something positive both to help feel better and show that there's more to this than just entitlement.

Hopefully people will realise this as we gain strength, but even if nothing comes of all this, are people going to withdraw their charitable contributions as it was all a bluff? I'm a cynic but I doubt people are such bastards as that.

Good going so far all, keep it up!

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Please, guys, stay on topic. It's better create the separate thread for LI discussion.

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Holding the Line!

Just checking the sales in Amazon. Note the customer ratings. It's pretty telling.

http://social.biowar...ex/9512916/1119

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I still can't believe why Bioware won't say something like "Guys. We hear you. We understand you think something is wrong. We're going to fix it. Give us time." Or even "Guys. We hear you, but this is how it is. We're not changing anything."

I just want some certainty, you know?

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RPGmom28 wrote...

Jacob cheating on femshep, Thane kicking the bucket.... not that we didn't know Thane would keel over, but Jacob was a blindside. Some of us actually liked him.


True but it seemed like the hate outweighed the like for him so it's sad but not surprising. I like Jacob too and considered him a good man and friend.

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KLGChaos wrote...

Hard to keep up with this thread. There's 2 pages every few minutes. :P

Just a few things I wanted to touch on:

I saw the interview with Casey Hudson about the ending and how he wanted something polarizing and that would be remembered. I can understand that, but you definitely don't want to be remembered in a negative way. It's a sure way to drive people away in the future.

If the DLC thing is true, it would ease the pain, that's for sure. However, it would still make me very wary of anything I buy from them (or EA in general) in the future. Which is a shame, because I've been a hardcore fan since the first Baldur's Gate, I've owned ever Bioware game since then, and I even enjoyed DA2. True, it was a massive step back from DA:O, but I still felt I got my money's worth.

With so much history with ME, though, the ambiguous, inconclusive ending at the end of a trilogy will always be remembered as a stain, no matter how they patch it up. It would be like going to a movie, getting some weird stuff at the end and then being told "Sorry, if you want to see the real ending, you've got to come back in a couple of months and cough up a few bucks."

I can understand them not wanting the ending leaked. I just think they've handled the whole thing poorly.

Kee'lah se'lai.


If it's free though... no problem right? 

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Abbraxas00 wrote...

Game_Fan_85 wrote...

beyondsolo wrote...

FOX216BC wrote...

 What about the 2 squad members that are whit you in the final run in London.I picked ash and liara, how the hell did Ash end up in the normandy? Or Liara depending on my final"choice". It's not just a bad ending, it doesn't make any sense.:blink:


That's the one plothole that gives me no rest. Wouldn't it be completely out of character for them to abandon Shepard at this moment? At first I though they were dead, so I dragged my shattered Shepard through the Citadel, thinking, "For you, Ash, and for our friends!" And then she steps out of the crashed Normandy, not even a hint of sad on her face. And I'm pretty sure it's the same thing with Liara and Kaidan. If Shepard was unconscious for long enough for the entire ground team to get evacuated, fine. Maybe the Reapers killed the beam to the Citadel after Shepard and Anderson got on board. But again, there is no evidence to support it. No Ashley getting dragged flailing and screaming into the evac shuttle/cargo bay, no sadness at the very end. Nothing. As if the characters in-game were realizing how pointless the ending was... Image IPB


The happy look on the Kaidan's face bugged me.  Kaidan should be grieving for him not smilling damn it.  And by the way, even Cortez steps off the Normandy if he is the LI, probably Sam as well.  It's always the LI.  This puts so many thoughts in my head I wish they would just answer already.


my LI was miranda and she stepped put in just one of the scenes...


Miranda was my Shep's love interest, too, so if he miraculously survived the Citadel's destruction, he has a chance of being reunited with her. Slim as it may be, yay. They can have some time together before everyone starves and dies a slow, painful death. Sucks if your LI was on the Normandy, though. Everyone on board pretty much breaks character, abandons Shepard, and flees the battle. 

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Benirus wrote...

Welcome to all the new guys joining the fight, and welcome back to the vet's ^_^
Quick reminder, let's keep this civil and show all those *wiseguys* that we are infact, not a bunch of ragers and entitled children. No need to throw more fuel on their fire.

If you're feeling really frustrated,  we know how you feel and there plenty of people here you can rant with.:P
Recommend reading www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3-ending-hatred-5-reasons-the-fans-are-right/
Show it to those who doesn't understand or use it as a neat argument against haters.

Hold the line!

If you have the links to the various Forbes articles it would be good for the new recruits to see those. Help people see what this is doing on the business front. Hold the line.

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Brazilian video which have some good  critics about Mass Effect 3 endings.

In general he doesn't like the endings.

The comentaries are also against the endings

www.youtube.com/watch

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Does the amount of assets affect the ending at all in any real way? I maxed out the asset bar and basically got every asset I could, I think I had around 6k when all was done. What did that do? Nothing. There was still the annoying Reaper Child and the stupid destroy-all-synthetics-and-the-Mass-Relays ending.

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Links to most of the earlier articles are on my sig if you're interested

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TSC_1 wrote...

I still can't believe why Bioware won't say something like "Guys. We hear you. We understand you think something is wrong. We're going to fix it. Give us time." Or even "Guys. We hear you, but this is how it is. We're not changing anything."

I just want some certainty, you know?


Coincidentally, that's also my feeling about the ME3 ending :D

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Is it weird that I can still hear that sad piano piece at the ending sequence, in my head. GO AWAY D:

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Watch this people.

It actually proves without doubt that Casey was lieing.

No Bull****. Spread the word, its a powerfull video.

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TSC_1 wrote...

I still can't believe why Bioware won't say something like "Guys. We hear you. We understand you think something is wrong. We're going to fix it. Give us time." Or even "Guys. We hear you, but this is how it is. We're not changing anything."

I just want some certainty, you know?


This.  100% this.

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Dj14365 wrote...

Benirus wrote...

Welcome to all the new guys joining the fight, and welcome back to the vet's ^_^
Quick reminder, let's keep this civil and show all those *wiseguys* that we are infact, not a bunch of ragers and entitled children. No need to throw more fuel on their fire.

If you're feeling really frustrated,  we know how you feel and there plenty of people here you can rant with.:P
Recommend reading www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3-ending-hatred-5-reasons-the-fans-are-right/
Show it to those who doesn't understand or use it as a neat argument against haters.

Hold the line!

If you have the links to the various Forbes articles it would be good for the new recruits to see those. Help people see what this is doing on the business front. Hold the line.

Good idea!
These guys understand:
www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/03/12/how-bioware-could-find-redemption-using-mass-effect-3/2/
www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/03/13/mass-effect-3-and-the-pernicious-myth-of-gamer-entitlement/
www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/03/13/why-fan-service-is-good-business/

Modifié par Benirus, 14 mars 2012 - 07:24 .


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taymorr

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1134 pages wow thats impressive

hold the line

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Amazing how Captain Kirrahe is helping us get our point across. Hold the line everyone!

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TSC_1 wrote...

I still can't believe why Bioware won't say something like "Guys. We hear you. We understand you think something is wrong. We're going to fix it. Give us time." Or even "Guys. We hear you, but this is how it is. We're not changing anything."

I just want some certainty, you know?


Because the global release date is this week afaik. That means until recently the game wasn't even released everywhere, and I suppose that BioWare want to give everyone the chance to finish the game before directly and officially addressing the issue. That is assuming there is going to be any reaction other than what we've already seen.

What's important is that we keep the threads alive and people aware until BioWare does make a statement. Don't let it be forgotten. Hold the line.