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ArmyKnifeX

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Welsh Inferno wrote...

Theres also this:

The surroundings look similar.
Image IPB

I don't think shepard has got up from Harbingers attack yet, and what we saw was Shepard trying to hold off the indoctrination.


*Jawdrop*. I literally just made a O_O face.

If the leak is true about the DLC being called "The Truth"...

#29052
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Hi all, this is my 5th or so post in this thread and I would just like to say this :

We need to stop being defensive about the word entitlement, what we need to do is rise up and say "we are entitled to a better ending" why? Because we are RESPONSIBLE CONSUMERS. Thats right, we have a saying in what we pay for. We are entitled to a better ending and fair pricing for DLC because we are responsible consumers. And as responsible consumers it is our right to speak up and question the companies.

Instead of the hold the line bull**** we have been doing for the last 1161 pages lets switch it up to "We are entitled to a better ending" Use the slogan they have been using against us against them.

As a responsible consumer it is my right to demand a new ending and more respect. If a company release a faulty product its our right as consumers to demand a replacement, same goes for the game industry, lets all stop pretending that game companys give a **** about us and do what any other market force does and unite and demand replacement!

I am entitled to a new ending.

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The problem is Casey Hudson has said;

I didn’t want the game to be forgettable, and even right down to the sort of polarizing reaction that the ends have had with people debating what the endings mean and what’s going to happen next, and what situation are the characters left in. That to me is part of what’s exciting about this story. There has always been a little bit of mystery there and a little bit of interpretation, and it’s a story that people can talk about after the fact.


But in my opinion thats missing the point here.

Its almost ironic because you gave us freedom, choice and an entire galaxy to play in for five years before becoming indocrinated yourself and wrestling the final scene from us because you wanted control of legacy at the final 15 mins.

Casey, with great respect you don't try to secure Mass Effect's legacy and place in history by enforcing an identikit ending on everyone, you secure its legacy by giving us your fans the tools to do it for you!.
The closure needed for our love interests and friends and the species who helped,  and also most certainly by the wide-ranging ends promised pre-launch!.
If you want to throw in a bit of mystery here and there to keep us talking thats great!, but you should not have invalidated five years of player choice and consequence for an artistic piece.

Give us your fans the tools!, the choices, cutscenes and closure to secure Mass Effect's legacy for you as the definitive Sci-Fi RPG game trilogy. Its your product Casey, but its our individual stories and they've been five years+ in the making.

Please reconsider.
Commander Simon Shepard.

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ArmyKnifeX wrote...

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Theres also this:

The surroundings look similar.
Image IPB

I don't think shepard has got up from Harbingers attack yet, and what we saw was Shepard trying to hold off the indoctrination.


*Jawdrop*. I literally just made a O_O face.

If the leak is true about the DLC being called "The Truth"...


Oh for Christ sake......

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ArmyKnifeX wrote...

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Theres also this:

The surroundings look similar.
Image IPB

I don't think shepard has got up from Harbingers attack yet, and what we saw was Shepard trying to hold off the indoctrination.


*Jawdrop*. I literally just made a O_O face.

If the leak is true about the DLC being called "The Truth"...

It also goes along well with in the current ending Shepard is actually walking around on the outside of the citadel :pinched:

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Uwe Boll... I suddenly feel really really sick... *hngh*

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TheRealMithril wrote...

I find it amusing that Shepard in the end just agrees to everything handed to him by a spooky "the shining" apparation. If given choices like that I want to have the choice to do nothing at all. And the god AI just gave away everything by saying that he "lives" there. Fine, then blow up the citadel, tell him who´s boss.


Yeah that's the worst part, the kid basically said organics and synthetics will always be at war since synthetics will always try to wipe out organics. I just spent the past 2 games with 2 different AI entities proving that's not true, and the only real reason the geth rebelled in the first place is that they were attacked first.

Despite this I seem to remember Shepard only going "Maybe...." while not arguing the point at all.

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Welsh Inferno wrote...

Theres also this:

The surroundings look similar.
*image removed*

I don't think shepard has got up from Harbingers attack yet, and what we saw was Shepard trying to hold off the indoctrination.


Thanks for the input. I never noticed that. One more proof for my second banner!

Modifié par KHReborn, 14 mars 2012 - 10:02 .


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jedsithor wrote...

In Mass Effect 4 we'll find out that the Normandy ended up in the Andromeda galaxy where they'll discover that the "Creators" didn't merely become Reapers. Some of them left the Milky Way and established a new civilization, complete with a set of Mass Effect Relays for the Andromeda galaxy. However, the Creator civilization will be bio-synthetic and view the pure organics (and pure synthetic in EDI's case) as threats to their society.

The bioscan done by Chakwas in ME3 will provide the information the Creator's need to recreate Shepard and he will be sent on a mission to eradicate his old crewmates. Of course over the course of the game Shep will begin to remember his (or her) old life and will eventually turn against the Creators and attempt to find a prototype for a new kind of relay technology that will allow individual ships to travel at FTL without the use of Mass Relays, allowing the Normandy to return to the Milky Way.

Mass Effect 5 will see Shepard and co return to the Milky Way and attempt to bring FTL travel back to the galaxy with the prototype, ending conflicts that have arisen in the process in preparation for the coming of the "Creators."

Mass Effect 6 will see the Creators arrive in the Milky Way and depending on your choice in ME3, the Reapers may still be around and the Creators will retake control of them, or life in the Milky Way will also be bio-synthetic and the Creators will attempt to turn the galaxy against Shepard, or with the Reapers destroyed, the Creators will seek to wipe out life in the Milky Way. Either way, you have to get the galaxy on your side and get ready for a massive, inter-galactic war.

Then, in the last 10 minutes of Mass Effect 6 we will learn that the Creators were actually created by humans from the far future, who traveled back in time and created the Creators because in the original timeline, human beings destroyed the entire universe. The only solution was to go back in time, advance a race of beings long before humanity existed so that they could create the Reapers and start a cycle that would ultimately prevent humanity from destroying the universe, even though this new timeline took place in a newly created universe, which happens when you change the past, and nothing changes in the original universe, making the entire exercise pointless.

Mass Effect 7-9 will focus on a war between the original universe and the alternate universe and it will eventually be discovered that both universes are just part of an advanced simulation being run by college students who wanted to determine what would happen if two universes went to war.

Finally, Mass Effect 10 would see Shepard escape from the simulation into the real world and it would involve him having to find a Starbucks...needless to say it would be a short game.

no.. please. Don't make it so horribly complicated like some other Sci-Fi stuff is (do not want to tell names)

Also at the pic with the mako.. really true? since I cannot go through that spacemagic ending again...

Modifié par Bubi7, 14 mars 2012 - 10:04 .


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Welsh Inferno wrote...

Theres also this:

The surroundings look similar.
Image IPB

I don't think shepard has got up from Harbingers attack yet, and what we saw was Shepard trying to hold off the indoctrination.



similar yes but still grasping for straws

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Welsh Inferno wrote...

Theres also this:

The surroundings look similar.
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I don't think shepard has got up from Harbingers attack yet, and what we saw was Shepard trying to hold off the indoctrination.


I audibly gasped!

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Welsh Inferno wrote...

Theres also this:

The surroundings look similar.
Image IPB

I don't think shepard has got up from Harbingers attack yet, and what we saw was Shepard trying to hold off the indoctrination.


Does that mean that walking into the beam is the best ending because in reality, you are entering the citadel?

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ArmyKnifeX wrote...


*Jawdrop*. I literally just made a O_O face.

If the leak is true about the DLC being called "The Truth"...


Seeing as that "leak" started on 4chan, I'm gonna say "no".

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ArmyKnifeX wrote...

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Theres also this:

The surroundings look similar.
Image IPB

I don't think shepard has got up from Harbingers attack yet, and what we saw was Shepard trying to hold off the indoctrination.


*Jawdrop*. I literally just made a O_O face.

If the leak is true about the DLC being called "The Truth"...


Confess i didn't saw the mako there....:o

#29065
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Hans Gruber wasn't surprised by the ending of Mass Effect 3

Saw it on Reddit and had to post it here as well.
Forbes has been so far pretty much the best publication when it has come
to handling the Mass Effect 3 ending debacle and they deserve some respect for it.

Hold the line !

Modifié par imelik, 14 mars 2012 - 10:07 .


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malra wrote...


In mine no gene pool at all - only men got off the normandy.  no edi, liara, just joker, garrus, and khaiden


Ditto this. In mine, it was Joker, Garrus, and James. GL populating New Eden! 

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simply hilarious! :D

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Welsh Inferno wrote...

Theres also this:

The surroundings look similar.
Image IPB

I don't think shepard has got up from Harbingers attack yet, and what we saw was Shepard trying to hold off the indoctrination.


That'd be awesome.  However seeing that picture I have Picard's voice in my head yelling "THERE ARE 4 WHEELS"

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ArmyKnifeX wrote...

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Theres also this:

The surroundings look similar.
Image IPB

I don't think shepard has got up from Harbingers attack yet, and what we saw was Shepard trying to hold off the indoctrination.


*Jawdrop*. I literally just made a O_O face.

If the leak is true about the DLC being called "The Truth"...


The mako doesn't have 4 wheels and is obviously just texture recycleing.

Edit- 4 sets

Modifié par Fox544, 14 mars 2012 - 10:04 .


#29070
Welsh Inferno

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KHReborn wrote...

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Theres also this:

The surroundings look similar.
*image removed*

I don't think shepard has got up from Harbingers attack yet, and what we saw was Shepard trying to hold off the indoctrination.


Thanks for the input. I never noticed that. One more proof for my second banner!


Thank the guy in this thread. He found it.

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 Not sure how many gamers out there are fans of musicals, but this whole mobilization/war effort awesomeness reminds me of a song: Do You Hear the People Sing? from Les Miserables.

"Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of angry men
It is the music of a people who will not be slaves again!
When the beating of your heart
Echoes the beating of the drums
There is a life about to start when tomorrow comes!"

Lets build a barricade and hold the line!

/nerdymoment ^^;

#29072
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jedsithor wrote...

In Mass Effect 4 we'll find out that the Normandy ended up in the Andromeda galaxy where they'll discover that the "Creators" didn't merely become Reapers. Some of them left the Milky Way and established a new civilization, complete with a set of Mass Effect Relays for the Andromeda galaxy. However, the Creator civilization will be bio-synthetic and view the pure organics (and pure synthetic in EDI's case) as threats to their society.

The bioscan done by Chakwas in ME3 will provide the information the Creator's need to recreate Shepard and he will be sent on a mission to eradicate his old crewmates. Of course over the course of the game Shep will begin to remember his (or her) old life and will eventually turn against the Creators and attempt to find a prototype for a new kind of relay technology that will allow individual ships to travel at FTL without the use of Mass Relays, allowing the Normandy to return to the Milky Way.

Mass Effect 5 will see Shepard and co return to the Milky Way and attempt to bring FTL travel back to the galaxy with the prototype, ending conflicts that have arisen in the process in preparation for the coming of the "Creators."

Mass Effect 6 will see the Creators arrive in the Milky Way and depending on your choice in ME3, the Reapers may still be around and the Creators will retake control of them, or life in the Milky Way will also be bio-synthetic and the Creators will attempt to turn the galaxy against Shepard, or with the Reapers destroyed, the Creators will seek to wipe out life in the Milky Way. Either way, you have to get the galaxy on your side and get ready for a massive, inter-galactic war.

Then, in the last 10 minutes of Mass Effect 6 we will learn that the Creators were actually created by humans from the far future, who traveled back in time and created the Creators because in the original timeline, human beings destroyed the entire universe. The only solution was to go back in time, advance a race of beings long before humanity existed so that they could create the Reapers and start a cycle that would ultimately prevent humanity from destroying the universe, even though this new timeline took place in a newly created universe, which happens when you change the past, and nothing changes in the original universe, making the entire exercise pointless.

Mass Effect 7-9 will focus on a war between the original universe and the alternate universe and it will eventually be discovered that both universes are just part of an advanced simulation being run by college students who wanted to determine what would happen if two universes went to war.

Finally, Mass Effect 10 would see Shepard escape from the simulation into the real world and it would involve him having to find a Starbucks...needless to say it would be a short game.


My mind just exploded at the thought of how much money I would waste buying all those games and their DLC.

Oh, and at the thought of getting 7 more crappy Tali love scenes.

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I can do this all day:

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kristopherah wrote...

Militarized wrote...

I bet Avena the pretty VI could kick the Catalysts ass.

             





Yes the real ending i can imagine it now "Unauthroized Vi detected Purging Purging Purging thank you for using Avina"


My mind was running various 'alternative' endings after playing ME3 to try and make myself feel better. Would have been cool if there was an ending where you could actively refuse all three choices and contact Joker to bring the Normandy in as close as possible to their location so that EDI could interface with this other VI. The outcome could depend on if the geth were recruited or wiped out. EDI could find that the VI is too strong for her to overcome alone so que the geth (if they are recruited; if not EDI dies and you have to choice one of the three options afterall). With the combined strength of the geth and EDI they could overwhlem the VI and disable the Reapers leaving the rest of the fleets to take down the now immobilized enemy. Shep could catch a ride back to Earth on the Normandy. Thats an ending I could have lived with anyways.

Besides I always thought it odd that the VI took the form of the little boy who haunted Shep's dreams. It chose possibly the one thing that shook Shepherd to the core more than anything else. Almost like it was deliberately trying to demoralise her by taking to form for the one she couldn't save. Why use a tactic like that unless it was worried? Unless it knew Shep was about to break the cycle. Feels like its 'choices' are one last attempt of control. Would have loved to see Shepherd reject them..

Modifié par PurpleWhisper, 14 mars 2012 - 10:07 .


#29075
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SimonM72 wrote...

The problem is Casey Hudson has said;

I didn’t want the game to be forgettable, and even right down to the sort of polarizing reaction that the ends have had with people debating what the endings mean and what’s going to happen next, and what situation are the characters left in. That to me is part of what’s exciting about this story. There has always been a little bit of mystery there and a little bit of interpretation, and it’s a story that people can talk about after the fact.


But in my opinion thats missing the point here.

Its almost ironic because you gave us freedom, choice and an entire galaxy to play in for five years before becoming indocrinated yourself and wrestling the final scene from us because you wanted control of legacy at the final 15 mins.

Casey, with great respect you don't try to secure Mass Effect's legacy and place in history by enforcing an identikit ending on everyone, you secure its legacy by giving us your fans the tools to do it for you!.
The closure needed for our love interests and friends and the species who helped,  and also most certainly by the wide-ranging ends promised pre-launch!.
If you want to throw in a bit of mystery here and there to keep us talking thats great!, but you should not have invalidated five years of player choice and consequence for an artistic piece.

Give us your fans the tools!, the choices, cutscenes and closure to secure Mass Effect's legacy for you as the definitive Sci-Fi RPG game trilogy. Its your product Casey, but its our individual stories and they've been five years+ in the making.

Please reconsider.
Commander Simon Shepard.


It is actually not that hard to pull out the game data and stick in the UDK dev kit. But why would I want to? The thing is, I believe BW is responsible for it's universe. Any additions from fans are non-canon and I have litte feelings for those. They might be awesome, but it is still not the real Mass Effect. But hey, that's my opinion.