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PurpleWhisper wrote...

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Where is meh UK fleet at? o_O

You called?

Still here...although wondering quite how I ended up trying to hold the entire eastern flank with a frigate and two fighters.

Oh, and we're still out of tea over here. Smithers has started watching Jersey Shore....

SSV Cleveland sent a emergency coffee shipment to the UK fleet this afternoon to be substituted for the tea. Was it intercepted, have our supply lines been compromised what is going on. We need a sit rep ASAP.



GREAT NOW WE JUST NEED THE CRUMPITS! :innocent:

SSV Newcastle shall bring the crumpits...oh and tea has been delayed for some reason... COME ON PEOPLE WE NEED TEA TO SURVIVE OUT HERE! SEND A SCOUT SHIP OR SOMETHING! 

im losing my edge


SSV Gateshead reporting for tea resupply.


About time too, now we start our daily process of convensional drinking of tea with "emergency induction ports" contributed by the great tali zorah. BEGIN TRADE OF TEA AND CRUMPITS

UK FLEET HURAH!


Ah everythings better over a cuppa. Maybe thats what Shepherd needs. A crumpets and tea DLC pack to boost her moral enough to beat the Reapers!


Yeah why not... we still got to be civil in a war like this. Throw in a nice cup for shep and we have a deal ! :lol:


I'm sure ole Doc Chakwas would drink to that :D


Ahh, another alternative 'better than we have' ending. Shepard offers the Reapers a nice cup of tea and they suddenly decide not to wipe out all life in the galaxy.

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for the lols


Omg that's amazing lol 

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so nothing new? still?

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Polat995 wrote...

Hey guys, at Mass Effect twitter, they started asking if there is anything that people disliked :D


This really reminds me of how AT&T tried to deal with their horrid network fiasco a few years back on Facebook.  I totally felt for their social media team, similar to how I now feel for the Mass Effect social media team.  This is really more about them trying to make it sound like they are listening.  Lets be honest - they know EXACTLY why we all hate the ending, and knew this prior to its release.

There must have been some truly bizarre corporate mechinations to have this game released with an ending like this.  No way is it possible for the vast majority of the people who appear in the credits, who just as clearly poured their soul into this game for them not to know how much of a train wreck the ending was.  

So no, Mass Effect asking on twitter why we hate this is nothing more than a public relations change.  They already know why we hate it, and they always have.  Its simply too obvious to miss.

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Cybermortis wrote...

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Cybermortis wrote...
Still here...although wondering quite how I ended up trying to hold the entire eastern flank with a frigate and two fighters.
Oh, and we're still out of tea over here. Smithers has started watching Jersey Shore....

SSV Cleveland sent a emergency coffee shipment to the UK fleet this afternoon to be substituted for the tea. Was it intercepted, have our supply lines been compromised what is going on. We need a sit rep ASAP.
PS get him away from the TV jersey shore is an indoctrination channel used by the reapers to kill our brain cells.

Oh...that was coffee? We thought it was the stuff used to clean the drive couplings.
Come to think of it I was starting to wonder why the engineering crew (all three of them, this being a Normandy class II Frigate) wasn't letting anyone down there.
Unfortunatly our communications systems were downgraded during the recent 'improvements' to the Navy. So its either Football, Jersey Shore or Britains Got Talent. At this point we'd rather have a Husk on our hands than Smithers headbutting the drive core again.

 
Apologys for the miscommunication. Assuming that your talking about American football watch that. If it is that "sport" we call soccer stateside try to hold on while I patch you through some Top Gear (the good British version).

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Where is meh UK fleet at? o_O[/quote]

Scottish kilted regiments and fleets aboard the SSV Glasgow reporting in.
What, it isn't all tophats, monocles, tea, and crumpets. =p[/quote

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We accept haggis aswell... as long as you make it taste like "fine ass" :D

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This one tastes slightly of Miranda ...:o

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:o OOOH MY GOOOD.... we need a new chef.

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Teleraine wrote...

*Sigh* Having finished the game Sunday Morning im back to wishing I could scrub the horrific images from my mind.


I finished about this time last week and the images still haven't left... :crying:

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I haven't had time to read all 1k+ pages, and if I try I don't think I'll reach the end given the rate of posting. Regardless of the fact that this may have been said before, this is how I feel and so is not the less for repetition of others feelings.

The ending hurt, it really hurt. I can deal with tragedy and sacrifice and unfairness. There was nothing less to be expected as possible outcomes from a final confrontation with the Reapers. I had a number of different ME characters, but into my main I poured myself: I acted how I would like to believe that I would have acted in that situation, not following pure paragon or renegade, but how I felt inside. I romanced who I felt the most affinity and affection for (Tali for those interested) and I scorned those who I thought deserved it. I had trouble facing up to the difficult decisions at the end of the game; which of the three could I cover?

I wouldn't go for control because that wouldn't solve anything, leaving Synthesis and Destruction.

If I destroyed the Reapers I destroyed the Geth, who I had worked so hard to bring into true sapience and protect, and EDI who I had tried to nurture into her new role. The Geth couldn't help the Quarians re-inhabit their world either. But I might get to see Tali again, she who wanted more time, who wanted a house on the homeworld I had helped her regain. True, we may never get there traveling by standard FTL travel, but we would have that time together which she wanted. I would see which of my friends had lived, and mourn those who had died.

If I chose synthesis, then I would lose Tali, and she would lose me. I would not know about it but the fact that she would be alone, if she survived that is, was hard for me. EDI would live, the Geth would live, but it would still take decades if not centuries to go back home. Also, what form of life would be resultant. You can't just re-write DNA to make it part synthetic and part organic, and how in the name of everything do you rewrite the DNA of machines to make them part organic? It made no sense to me.

Though I had been somewhat rutheless throughout the series, it had always been because I needed to what others were unwilling to do, but I did my best to save everyone which I could, or who needed/deserved saving, which is probably why I had nigh on 8k forces at the end of my playthrough. My actions may have been harsh at times, cold-blooded and reprehensible, I had done all that because I was willing to shoulder that responsibility for the sake of others. At the very end, however, I chose a selfish act. I chose to destroy the Reapers, the Geth and EDI, part of what I had helped create. I chose to do this so I might be able to see Tali and my friends again, and live with the burden of the trillions of Geth I had killed. It might not be a happy existence, but it was all I had, so I went for it.

Imagine my surprise, then, to see a flashback of Joker, Anderson and that Blue-arsed bimbo from the first game; I did everything for Tali. Ok, that aside, we continue on to see the Normandy trying to outrun the shockwave (for want of a better word), and having it's rear being torn apart by that same force. Yet somehow it manages to land on some unsuspecting garden world. Joker lives, Tali lives (yay) and I'm lying in rubble somewhere......

....and that's it? What happens to everyone else. Do we rebuild, can we rebuild. Do people understand why the Geth had to die, does Joker understand that he lost EDI because of my selfishness? Was that Wrex who was hit by the reaper beam? What about Garrus, or Grunt, or Jack? What about Kasumi and Zaeed. In DA:O you at least gave us epilogue slides, here we get nothing. No closure, nothing at all.

And you expect me to want to play through all that again with my other characters just to see it all thrown away again? I even decided to see what would happen if I jumped into the beam. Joker gets EDI; cute. Tali is left standing alone on a rock looking at them; heartbreak. And no, I'm not some fanboy who writes Tali/Shepard romances and slashfic, they're all just well written characters and I see her in a lot of my past loves in reality.

That's the whole point; you give us a veritable host of people to know and friendships to forge. Garrus, Tali are there from the word go. They were at my side at Ilos, against Saren, against the Collectors and against the Reapers. You gave us characters which we could associate with, such as Mordin struggling with his conscience yet knowing what he did was right, Thane trying to atone for his past and accepting his impending death. Legion, sacrificing himself for his people as I was willing to do for mine up until the very end; I thought I was ready to face death, but when there was an option to get out of it, even at high cost, I took it because I dared to hope for something more to come out of what was lost.

Yes, you gave us these characters to know and love and hate and laugh with. You took some of them away early, but at least you gave us some closure there. Where was our closure here? A brief scene of 2-3 characters and a Love Interest is not closure. And saying "a little bit of mystery there and a little bit of interpretation" is not an excuse for what is, to all intents and purposes, a cop out. Your explanations for the endings to your fans are as weak as the endings themselves.

I would be happy about Shephard's death if I had more about those who lived on after him/her. If I saw Garrus on Palaven shooting bottles shouting "This one's for you"; Kasumi looking fondly at an old and damaged N7 helmet that mysteriously vanished from my cabin; Karin Chakwas toasting to Shepard every year, an undrunk glass of Serrice Brandy next to her; Grunt remembering the time that I headbutted a Krogan for showing him disrespect, and Tali, sitting outside her house on Rannoch, or maybe Earth, or in a Liveship on her long voyage home, looking at a photo of me and sighing, perhaps adopting a war orphan and calling him Shepard. And maybe the whole gang meeting up at some time in the future and remembering the past. Ok, that last bit is cheesy but you get the idea.

Yes, if I had that then I would have no problem with the fact that Shepard did not survive the Reaper war. It would prefer it if I could be there with them, but if I had to die and there was no choice then I could deal with that.

But the fact is you don't give us that. You give us a painful lack of choice, telling us that regardless of what we do, basically you're screwed one way or another, and don't even have the decency to tell us that at least most of the other people made it out alright.

I'm not looking for a rainbows and unicorns ending. I'm not looking for offspring. I'm looking for closure which you didn't think we were worth. Shepard put their life on the line so many times for the galaxy and we paid our money to you for the privilege of guiding their hand. You responded by giving us a suspect flashback memory sequence before the end and a hint that some people might just live out their natural lives stranded on a random planet. Well you'd better hope that the planet had both levo and dextro protein foods available because otherwise some of them are screwed.

I'm not mad at the choices of endings themselves. they were decent as endings go, and the difficulty of the decisions and results of them is a masterpiece; you forced us to make a terrible decision, but you did not reward us for it. I would prefer there to be more choices, I would prefer to be able to convince the Citadel Entity to call off the reapers it controls, and to sue for peace, but I don't think you'll give us that. I can deal with the death of my Shepard, of all my Shepards, but I cannot cope without the closure.


Sorry for the rant - got carried away.

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Feraiin wrote...

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/180082397658882049 

That's more than they were acknowledging yesterday.

Don't give them an inch, hold the line!



Funny how such a polite sentence can read "Trollololol"

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Nalerenn wrote...

Computim wrote...

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Where is meh UK fleet at? o_O


Scottish kilted regiments and fleets aboard the SSV Glasgow reporting in.
What, it isn't all tophats, monocles, tea, and crumpets. =p


Scottish fleet deforests planets and then tosses the trees at the reapers... quite effective on husks, and even some larger enemies.

Damn straight. We're like human-sized Krogan in woolen skirts.
Which leads on to our ultimate attack against the greater Reaper types. Nobody in the galaxy can counter the good old 'Donald Where's Yer Troosers?' maneuver...


I just seriously cracked up here. hahahaha

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everything i worked for in the game came to a stop with crapy photoshop endings. seriously thats just sad

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Oh my god: Mass Effect asked this: "We appreciate you telling us that. What were some of the things you'd change about the ending?" to someone on twitter!!!!!

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Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Smart guy playing 'Tribes' and talking about IGN and gaming-companys and their goals and interesests


He is absolutely right. These game companies exist because we allow them to by purchasing their product. We are the consumers and they should pander to us. Only way things will change is if we hit them where it hurts the most, their bottom line. Stay strong and hold the line!

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Xyalon wrote...


Bravo sir!  I agree with you mostly.. I still feel that they rushed the endings more as the source of the problem, rather then the story being bad.

You weren't ranting.. this thread's been going for 1200 pages, trust me, not ranting haha.

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https://twitter.com/...077258608877568HAHAHAHAHAHA


****ing OWNED!

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Computim wrote...

Nalerenn wrote...

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Where is meh UK fleet at? o_O


Scottish kilted regiments and fleets aboard the SSV Glasgow reporting in.
What, it isn't all tophats, monocles, tea, and crumpets. =p


Scottish fleet deforests planets and then tosses the trees at the reapers... quite effective on husks, and even some larger enemies.

Damn straight. We're like human-sized Krogan in woolen skirts.
Which leads on to our ultimate attack against the greater Reaper types. Nobody in the galaxy can counter the good old 'Donald Where's Yer Troosers?' maneuver...


I just seriously cracked up here. hahahaha


Still im putting scotand in charge of oxygen levels after the war... have a nice time replanting trees :) 
Im hoping to god your ships crewman are wearing underwear or have i just gone all stereotypical of scottish people? :lol:

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Pabloskie wrote...

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Anybody else getting the feeling that since the Mass Effect Twitter feed is now asking people for feedback about the ending in particular there might be some sort of internal debate at BioWare going on?


Well I figure its either

a) damage control - they have a plan but dont want to release it yet but also know that all this publicity is...eh....bad :blink: or
B) they know they messed up and are looking for fan input to put it right in furture dlc!


The format of their answers (aknowledgment and inquire) is standard focus group stuff.
so its realy can be for both.
Which pisses me off, because thats the type of question they should ask before the game is put out for sale.


Agreed, unfortunetly it doesnt tell us anything about what bioware are thinking or doing, well other than that their reaction times are terrible :unsure:

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I planned to go back to ME2, get a vanguard file going, romance tali, and transfer to ME3 with vastly different decisions. The ending just killed any replayability for me.

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Computim wrote...

Nalerenn wrote...

AshleyMadelineWilliams wrote...
Where is meh UK fleet at? o_O


Scottish kilted regiments and fleets aboard the SSV Glasgow reporting in.
What, it isn't all tophats, monocles, tea, and crumpets. =p


Scottish fleet deforests planets and then tosses the trees at the reapers... quite effective on husks, and even some larger enemies.


I deeply respect the Scottish forces, no one fights harder if they think there is a chance of a bevy at the end of it.

That said I do get a little uneasy at being supported by someone to whom 'tossing the caber' is a sport ;)

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sorry forgot the link to my meme:
http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3obdnr/


Brilliant :D


Legend!


http://qkme.me/3obdvw


LOL.
Well guys, it's gettin late here, gtg. But I'll be back!
Meanwhile, hold the line guys!

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What I like about the Twitter thing is how you can see people who created new accounts just to tweet to the Mass Effect account.

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Polat995 wrote...

Oh my god: Mass Effect asked this: "We appreciate you telling us that. What were some of the things you'd change about the ending?" to someone on twitter!!!!!


Someone 'tweet' that guy the link to the Ross Lincoln article.

Actually, their asking this question over twitter is somewhat discouraging.... What do they expect---a 100+ character summary of what's wrong with it?!

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Bioware wasted several hundred hours of my life.

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Don't know if this has been linked in this thread yet, but here's a direct comparison video of the amazingly varied endings.

www.youtube.com/watch

I'm almost at the point where it's comical now, being brushed off by BioWare and insulted by hacks and cronies in the gaming media...I've been a BioWare fanboy since Baldur's Gate, but I'm pretty close to just being done with them once and for all sadly.

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