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[Unit-Alpha]

Allworkandlowpay wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...
So what if Liara has a SB base on the SR 2 now . when at the end the SR 2 gets destroyed in a crash landing on a remote planet and all on it will eventually die . what you do in the game is pointless when its all but preparing to die 

You guys are depressing. So nihilistic. It's not about the end, it's about getting there. We all knew this was Shepard and crews final journey, we knew they had impossible odds. We knew we wouldn't likely see any of them, or their ship, again.

No, we did not. We expected our choices to have meaning.

[the_one_54321]

So... everyone here will only be happy if they get the kind of ending that they envisioned?

No one here believes that an ending can be good when it's not what you expected?

Really?

Unit-Alpha wrote...
No, we did not. We expected our choices to have meaning.

And choices are only meaningful if they have the depth of meaning that I want them to have?

Ending the threat of the Reapers for the rest of the future isn't the right kind of meaningful?

Almost all of what I'm seeing here is "if Shepard can't live happily ever after, then the ending is badly written."

And that actually doesn't make any sense at all.

Modifié par the_one_54321, 29 février 2012 - 07:06 .

[KateKane]

Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...

I think what is irritating the ****** off me the most is that after 4 years of building relationships with god knows how many characters, BioWare has the genius idea of making it so that Shepard can never see them again

Not even just the characters. The entire game world is burnt to the ground.

[panamakira]

Oh man~ I want to play the game and experience it for myself but I'm so afraid to do, halfway through think that I can get a better ending than what was suggested by the rumors and get shot down when I don't and have to deal with the aftermath of a ****ty ending to a series I loved....

[Juniper Mucius]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Haha, love the new rules. Damage control much?

How are these rules damage control?  It's saying, "you cannot attack or insult a member of the site or staff" essentially.  That's not damage control, that's "be a decenet frelling human being."  Peope have a really, really strange idea of what "damage control" is.

[Jacy Pane]

No, at best I would have liked to see my Shep stranded with her crew. The endings don't seem to make any sense at all.

[gogman25]

Allworkandlowpay wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...
So what if Liara has a SB base on the SR 2 now . when at the end the SR 2 gets destroyed in a crash landing on a remote planet and all on it will eventually die . what you do in the game is pointless when its all but preparing to die 

You guys are depressing. So nihilistic. It's not about the end, it's about getting there. We all knew this was Shepard and crews final journey, we knew they had impossible odds. We knew we wouldn't likely see any of them, or their ship, again.

No. No we didn't. Because it's extremely high risk does NOT mean that we should instantly all die and everything falls apart just cus'.
Impossible odds: Chasing Saren
Impossible odds: Taking on collectors
Impossible odds: Killing a reaper
Impossible odds: fighting through a derelict reaper
Impossible odds: Fighting through the collector ship

It should be easy to have a grim ending, but not impossible to have a decent ending.

[DragonRageGT]

Draconus96 wrote...

I think at some point, we all figured out - even if we didn't want to admit it to ourselves - that given the sheer magnitude of the threat presented by the reapers, there weren't going to be any happy endings. I was pissed at first, but after giving it some thought, Bioware couldn't have done it without making the game seem cliche, cheesy, trite, etc. Shepard's good, but even he can't put Humpty-Dumpty back together again. The lesson here being, there can be no victory without sacrifice. Bottom line, play the game, have fun, and give the ending, whatever happens, a little bit of thought.

If all endings were to cause the same depressive condition on the players, there would be no reason to replay the game at all. I have some 6 main Shepards ready to import. If the first one gets f**** no matter how I play him, I would definitely not repeat the experience with my other Shepards, different as they may be in their class/personality/morality.

And that would really make Chris' post about "playing a default Shepard before importing your own" a very ridiculous suggestion.

Leak or no leak, the signs that it is not that simple, and BW wouldn't be stupid enough to let it happen, are all over. I could bet that they won't respond anything just because they may be ROFLTAO with all the speculation and doomsaying. And because it would be pointless. I don't need their reassurance that if I play hard I can get a good ending. It would spoil it more than expecting a bad ending and getting the opposite.

[DoctorUburian]

DiegoProgMetal wrote...

TekFanX wrote...

Elegana wrote...

EJ107 wrote...

...EDI is destroyed becuase she's based on Reaper technology, the Geth are all killed even though they aren't based on Reaper technology...

EDIT: Okay, EDI only survives if you pick the Merge/Synergy ending.

I don't know what to think of this.
The ultimate paragon-ending I mean.

The Geth are destroyed?
Why implementing a peace-option for geth and quarians, if it leads to the geth dying?
Fanservice to bomb everything down?

EDI is destroyed because she is based on Reaper-Tech? So...Shepard, whose renegade-face is remarkable similar to that of someone modified by reaper-tech survives it?
We ought to believe, Cerberus did not use tech, based on reaper-stuff to bring Shepard back?

The more I hear, the more unlikely the spoilers appear to me.
-Genophage-free Krogans. (Almost anybody here played the demo)
-Turians, Salarians, Krogans fighting together. (Mordin mentions something like that in the demo)
-Geth and Quarians are able to unite in peace.
-Quarians may even get their homeworld back.
-The Turian councilor no longer dismissing the claim. (Exclusive G4 Palaven-Moon-gameplay)
(Everything you could hope for as a paragon-shep)

Then 'Boom!' tear it all down at the end? Putting all these efforts into creating story-content to satisfy a player, then crushing it?
Crushing it to the extend, that the whole me-universe as it is known is torn apart?
The universe, that is one of the most successful franchises in EA's wallet?

Even story-wise, to have a blank page to start with, I don't know which marketing-suit would give his/her ok to that?
Half of the costumers(or even more) so disappointed with the end of the trilogy, that a further interest in the franchise is unlikely?

I'm holding on to this same thin string of hope.

This can't be happening, this can't be happening, this can't be happening...

Now really, the endings are pathetic, and sad

[KateKane]

the_one_54321 wrote...

So... everyone here will only be happy if they get the kind of ending that they envisioned?

No one here believes that an ending can be good when it's not what you expected?

Really?

Having a variety of endings would have been ideal.

These are all just variations on "the galaxy is ****ed and most major characters are doomed no matter what."

[turian councilor Knockout]

Nyaore wrote...

JakeGamer1 wrote...

Rakia Time wrote...

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

RazorrX wrote...

I am getting a bad DA2 feeling now. They started putting up damage control posts, and now have installed the anti flame shield. Man what happened to Bioware?

EA happened 

so EA would want to murder a franchise that makes them money? i doubt that

Just look at what EA did to the Command & Conquer series.  EA butchers their best franchises all the time.

And you can pretty easily lay the blame for what happened with DA2 on EA's feet as well. I don't see any reason for that game to have been as rushed as it was without someone breathing down Bioware's neck to get the next installment out as soon as possible.

All EA franchise gets worse with the time even Crysis so is it really that much of a surprise, it's pretty clear they have no respect for their customers left.

[JeffZero]

the_one_54321 wrote...

So... everyone here will only be happy if they get the kind of ending that they envisioned?

No one here believes that an ending can be good when it's not what you expected?

Really?

*raises hand* Again, I'll say: I'm mostly OK with these endings.

[Unit-Alpha]

The Free Jaffa wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Haha, love the new rules. Damage control much?

How are these rules damage control?  It's saying, "you cannot attack or insult a member of the site or staff" essentially.  That's not damage control, that's "be a decenet frelling human being."  Peope have a really, really strange idea of what "damage control" is.

Oh, come on, do you think it was a coincidence? It's because of people attacking each other in this thread.

Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 29 février 2012 - 07:06 .

[Farvahar12]

Allworkandlowpay wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...
So what if Liara has a SB base on the SR 2 now . when at the end the SR 2 gets destroyed in a crash landing on a remote planet and all on it will eventually die . what you do in the game is pointless when its all but preparing to die 

You guys are depressing. So nihilistic. It's not about the end, it's about getting there. We all knew this was Shepard and crews final journey, we knew they had impossible odds. We knew we wouldn't likely see any of them, or their ship, again.

Errr...no. If a team of galaxys best operatives and 1 ship could take down the Collectors with no casualties, then the whole galaxy could fend of the reapers with acceptable losses. The writers are just not doing they're best. Ha...no personal attacks now?

Modifié par Farvahar12, 29 février 2012 - 07:11 .

[DiegoProgMetal]

DragonRageGT wrote...

albertalad wrote...

Tough job to be a moderator about now - having said that it does appear BW is in full damage control as of now. No doubt this thread has gotten BW's attention big time! Otherwise why full damage control mode?

Haven't seen personal attacks against staff, mods and other forumites in this thread. I'm sure it has nothing to do with this thread. As I am sure we can say that the game is a piece of **** or the endings are ****, preferrably after we played it, in my opinion.

But we shouldn't say that "someone" is a piece of ****, no matter what, be them staff, mods or forumites. We can stuill say it but we should be prepared to accept the consequences. In here it may be a ban. On the streets it may be your front teeth.

Hahahah.... Wanderley Silva, falou e disse! 

"In Brazil we say: You don't respect, you lose your teeth!" -> By Wanderley Silva to Chael Sonnen. Both MMA fighters.

[Magciklibra]

Candidate 88766 wrote...

NovemEnuma wrote...

Mims wrote...

There is no surprise ending, the files have been mined. Unless it is well hidden, or a troll by bioware, the endings above are the only endings.

There's a surprise ending if you complete a New Game+. The official N7 strategy guide makes mention of it, alongside the other 6 endings.

The file claims there are 7 endings, so the NG+ would probably be one of the ones we know about. Posisbly the 'merge' one.

What "file" is everybody talking about?  I don't mind being stranded, just hope I get to be with my LI from ME1!!

[Favourite store on the CitadeI]

KateKane wrote...

Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...

I think what is irritating the ****** off me the most is that after 4 years of building relationships with god knows how many characters, BioWare has the genius idea of making it so that Shepard can never see them again

Not even just the characters. The entire game world is burnt to the ground.

true true. Everything I saved in ME1&2- Everyone.. will perish anyway... whats the point. i should just play me3 if i want a ending of complete destruction

[marstor05]

tis is depressing the hell out of me now. almost as much as watching eastenders.

[panamakira]

the_one_54321 wrote...

So... everyone here will only be happy if they get the kind of ending that they envisioned?

No one here believes that an ending can be good when it's not what you expected?

Really?

I have no issue with that. But to give us 7 ENDINGS and all of them go from bad to worst. Isn't that a little too much? 7 variation of one tragic ending? That's what I'm upset about. Not one ending in there could be something like "Shepard and crew return to an almost destroyed earth but there's hope to rebuild and start all over"....Really was that TOO HARD?

Modifié par panamakira, 29 février 2012 - 07:07 .

[Unit-Alpha]

gogman25 wrote...

Allworkandlowpay wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...
So what if Liara has a SB base on the SR 2 now . when at the end the SR 2 gets destroyed in a crash landing on a remote planet and all on it will eventually die . what you do in the game is pointless when its all but preparing to die 

You guys are depressing. So nihilistic. It's not about the end, it's about getting there. We all knew this was Shepard and crews final journey, we knew they had impossible odds. We knew we wouldn't likely see any of them, or their ship, again.

No. No we didn't. Because it's extremely high risk does NOT mean that we should instantly all die and everything falls apart just cus'.
Impossible odds: Chasing Saren
Impossible odds: Taking on collectors
Impossible odds: Killing a reaper
Impossible odds: fighting through a derelict reaper
Impossible odds: Fighting through the collector ship

It should be easy to have a grim ending, but not impossible to have a decent ending.

Exactly, we have no choice how it goes down. Even if there's a good end only if everything lines up perfectly, it would be better than this.

[xtorma]

Allworkandlowpay wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...
So what if Liara has a SB base on the SR 2 now . when at the end the SR 2 gets destroyed in a crash landing on a remote planet and all on it will eventually die . what you do in the game is pointless when its all but preparing to die 

You guys are depressing. So nihilistic. It's not about the end, it's about getting there. We all knew this was Shepard and crews final journey, we knew they had impossible odds. We knew we wouldn't likely see any of them, or their ship, again.

you may have thought that , but it never occured to me. Twice i have fought the reapers plans and come out on top. I never once thought that I would lose. If these were impossible odds , this would have ended in me1.

the fact that the reaper armada did not come without warning suggested to me they had a bit of fear, and it was possible i could win.

[Nyaore]

Jacy Pane wrote...

No, at best I would have liked to see my Shep stranded with her crew. The endings don't seem to make any sense at all.

Eh, I think some of them do. The problem with them is that:

1. From what we're hearing they seem pretty similar with only minor differences.
2. The Normany crew gets shafted. (My biggest problem)
3. There doesn't seem to be an ending, that we know of, where we can actively work towards keeping Shepard and the crew together. (I'd also throw in the Citadel and Mass Relays staying, but most people seem to be conceeding that they'd be fine with just keeping the core cast together in the end.)

Other than that, I'm fine with these endings. The problem is that they shouldn't be our ONLY options.

Modifié par Nyaore, 29 février 2012 - 07:08 .

[KainrycKarr]

The irreparably destroyed the in-game world and killed off or stranded all of the characters I had any interest in.

Why is this a good thing?

[the_one_54321]

KateKane wrote...
These are all just variations on "the galaxy is ****ed and most major characters are doomed no matter what."

I'm actually not seeing anything along the lines of "the galaxy is ****ed," so far. Just that all the heroes die. Sound pretty *** **** heroic to me.

[AkiKishi]

Rakia Time wrote...

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

RazorrX wrote...

I am getting a bad DA2 feeling now. They started putting up damage control posts, and now have installed the anti flame shield. Man what happened to Bioware?

EA happened 

so EA would want to murder a franchise that makes them money? i doubt that

It's happened before.