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[Eclipse_9990]

Frankly out of all the options presented I feel "Synergy" is the best one. I would prefer the Reapers be destroyed, and everyone goes back to their lives, but noooo... Bioware refuses to let me be happy.

Atleast with the Synergy option everyone can have the potential to make new relays, and restart the galactic community, and get fancy techno upgrades to boot.

Modifié par Eclipse_9990, 28 février 2012 - 03:43 .

[Tancho]

Gabriel Stelinski wrote...

Oh, FFS... what is this? Less than two weeks before launch and the worst news pop up. Ahh...

6 endings? 1 secret ending in New Game+?

Is the NG+ ending a good one or what. Please don't spoil anything other than if it's nasty or "better than nasty".

bump - does anyone have this information? If the Space Edition peeps were able to beat the game and get all the different endings so far, you'd think they'd know the secret ending by now.

[Teredan]

Fisto The Sexbot wrote...

Teredan wrote...

Fisto The Sexbot wrote...

The ending, if it's not a happy one, is BioWare's choice. And I fully support their decision to not go with fan service this time around, if true.

Happy endings might be something we all want to see, but it's not always best for the story. If you give the series a perfect ending, all the other ones become meaningless, failures.

In a game about choice, no they don't.
I really have no problem with these endings but seriously why not give other ones that statisfy as many fans as possible other than to ****** them off or make a me4 with shepard despite their claims.
It's supposed to be shepards last adventure so give fans ultimate closure.

Not everyone might be pissed. Sad endings usually aren't things people request for stories they like... but sometimes they're just better than happier ones.

I don't see how choice has anything to do with this. People always go for the perfect ending if they can. Even David Gaider said so a couple of times here, though it doesn't need repeating. People are suckers for happy endings, but it's not just about satisfying the fans, it's about satisfying the plot... giving the most fitting ending you think the plot needs, and sometimes that doesn't always lead to happiness. Ugh...

Choice has a lot to do with the medium of choice driven rpgs, this is not a movie nor a book.
This is an adventure empowering the player to have the experience they want.

If people are sucker for happy ends let them be (really I don't see why not).
The only reasons to deny players a satisfying ending that gives them the closure they want is really to make another game with shepard or just to ****** them off, really the latter one is not a good reason.

As for what is satisfactory for the plot, I don't think that for a game like me which accounts for so many decisions it is something that the writer should just decide on the feeling that they want to have something that sticks with people in a "special" way. Especially when what is satisfactory for the plot depends so much on how the players experience their playthrough.

Especially if they are along for the ride of 3 games which is not a given.
We can have controversial ending for those that want to have the series stick with them in a different way.

So again I don't see a good reason why their shoudn't be the choice of a happier ending.
I also don't see how an ending that screws all the main characters that you've learned to care for leaving them with a lack of closure is any better than an ending that gives every major character closure but leaves the galaxy economically/technologically crippled and off into a very uncertain future.

Anyways I'm just arguing on very shaky info here anyways I only know the gist of those ending but no the context so these endings might be pretty good in their own right so like I said earlier I'll wait until I've played it.

[CptBomBom00]

ratzerman wrote...

Holy crap. BSN is going to implode next week.

Why would Bioware do this to us? To themselves?

I bet the forums will be offline for 'Maintenace' and shi*t, really BW will try to avoid being blamed for all that crap, and fingers will opint towards E.A. that they made thme to rush the game, cause of $$$$$$$$$, and stufff, it's safely to assume if they haven't been rushed the endings would've been much satifying.

[Kasen]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

Frankly out of all the options presented I feel "Synergy" is the best one. I would prefer the Reapers be destroyed, and everyone goes back to their lives, but noooo... Bioware refuses to let me be happy.

Atleast with the Synergy option everyone can have the potential to make new relays, and restart the galactic community, and get fancy techno upgrades to boot.

Without knowing all the details, I'm becoming more curious about this option as we go...

[johhnytrash]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

I'm still personally crossing my fingers and hoping the Bioware releases a day one patch with the REAL endings.

That would be awesome of them, regardless of the story outcome.

[Guldhun2]

I see BiowareEA made a smart move. Release the game with all sad endings, and then release shortly afterwards the happy end DLC for 19.99


First you guys buy the 80 dollar CE. And then you get to buy the DLC for 20.

[Eclipse_9990]

Imperium Alpha wrote...

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

Holy crap. BSN is going to implode next week.

Why would Bioware do this to us? To themselves?

Because it's a damn great entertaining value in it that's why 

BioWare + some people (me) will find it extremly funny to watch people next week 

Bet they won't find it so funny when they lose customers. 

I mean first DA2, and now this? This doesn't bode well. 

Modifié par Eclipse_9990, 28 février 2012 - 03:49 .

[Q8999]

Why are people surprized at this. The reapers were/ are unstoppable. Even if the council had gone "Shepard your right we shall divert every resource we have to fight this" We would still be screwed. They out match us in every way, they have done this countless times and we are divided and weak. The entire technology used by the space races is reaper driven. The entire deadnoughts of the council races numbers less than one hundered before any losses. "It's not about winning it's about Survival" - Commander Shepard

[Tancho]

Did Novem confirm that the strategy guide fully supports these endings? Does it just lead up to the ending and then say 'sit back and enjoy the ending' like some books, or does it detail out every possible outcome?

[CptBomBom00]

Probably BioWare won't release any kind of patch that fixes the endings, the same thing will happen to ME3, as it did with DA2.

[FluffyScarf]

Real endings? Either we destroy them or we don't. By destroying them, Shep and the SR2 are 'sacrificed'. It's not perfect, but that's the price for stopping an ancient machine race that have never been challenged before.

[Guldhun2]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

Bet they won't find it so funny when they lose customers. 

You mean, GAIN paying happy end DLC customers.

[Fisto The Sexbot]

By the way, can anyone point me to a link or something more extensive? Just PM it or something please; I don't mind spoilers.

[Yakko77]

Nathan Redgrave wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

It's just a long and drawn out bitter until they all die off or go insane from inbreeding.

^ Always looking on the bright side of life, you are. Makes me feel right pessimistic by comparison, what with me imagining a calm existence on the surface of a lush, habitable forest world. Hunting, exploring, tech-free housing, sure we've dropped back in time a few technological ages and we can't really have kids, but it's not like that spells bitterness or unhappiness without a doubt. It's a lot better than all those guys who got blow'd up during the war.

Is living through life with no hope of sustaining life really living?  To be sure I would go on living in the hope of being rescued but from a gameplay perspective this is allegedly the "happy ending" result.

Real life is hard and struggle enough.  Forgive me for wanting a little escape from that with a video game.

[Hollowhisp]

The space edition guy in the spoiler group did some data mining to discover the endings and confirmed the variations on destroy, merge, control but found no evidence for a "happy" or new game bonus ending. Personally I'm in two minds about this, I think the endings are great in terms of narrative as they break the classic trend of unrealistic total victory common to computer games. However I really wanted to see the ME universe continue in some form and i'm confused as to how they can do that now given the utter destruction of the galactic community.

[Yakko77]

Fisto The Sexbot wrote...

By the way, can anyone point me to a link or something more extensive? Just PM it or something please; I don't mind spoilers.

Same here please.

BTW, love your name Fisto.  That robot still has my legs numb from Fallout New Vegas.  LOL!

[Eclipse_9990]

Guldhun2 wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

Bet they won't find it so funny when they lose customers. 

You mean, GAIN paying happy end DLC customers.

Right, and after that everyone will promptly **** off, and find a new developer to worship. 

Modifié par Eclipse_9990, 28 février 2012 - 03:56 .

[turian councilor Knockout]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

Imperium Alpha wrote...

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

Holy crap. BSN is going to implode next week.

Why would Bioware do this to us? To themselves?

Because it's a damn great entertaining value in it that's why 

BioWare + some people (me) will find it extremly funny to watch people next week 

Bet they won't find it so funny when they lose customers. 

Oh don't worry eclipse it's only those who criticize they will want f*ck up so badly that they leave all others are relatively safe dunno which group you belong to though 

[frylock23]

In order for a bitter sweet ending to really work, there has to be some sweet with the bitter. And that usually means that you have give some glimmers of hope in order to make the medicine go down. From what I'm hearing, there really isn't any hope. The crew is stranded to a slow death even if it will be a relatively comfortable one, and Shep, if s/he survives, is stranded someone all alone forever apparently. There isn't any hope of a better outcome, of anything changing. It's just doom. That the galaxy itself survives although pretty much nuked back to a pre-deep space travel level isn't enough sweet because that's also pretty bitter.

It's all bitter. There's no hope. No sweet.

[Siegdrifa]

ratzerman wrote...

Holy crap. BSN is going to implode next week.

Why would Bioware do this to us? To themselves?

Rumor of a 7 ending available via NG+
It was mentionned on the official guide it seems, and since it's N7, 6 ending with the 7th would be a good gift. As people says it's impossible because it was data mined, may be it'll will come along later with a patch (just an extra video of few hundreds of mo), i remember, with the leak of Liara unused track for the futur SB that Bioware would be extra carful regarding the data mining.

To be honest and what i think about it, don't count on it.
If a 7 ending happen, that would be great, but it's not officialy confirmer and peoples shouldn't get their hope up and betting everything on it as it could be more painfull if it never happen.

Modifié par Siegdrifa, 28 février 2012 - 03:54 .

[Nathan Redgrave]

CptData wrote...

Lets pick up that statement:

 
Likewise, buster.

no one says ALL ending should be satisfying.

 
"Satisfying" is a point of view, anyway. Just as many people will find those dark/grey endings more satisfying than the "whiter" ones.

(God, that sounds so unintentionally racist...)

I enjoy a game that gives me different grey endings as long as there's at least one that's less grey and more white than others.

At which point that ending becomes the one where the player "wins." Doesn't that undermine the element of choice, in a way? By implying a specific path is "right" while all others were incorrect?

If the current endings are the only options, we're going to see several dark-grey endings but not a single bright ending. In most cases, Shepard dies and his/her crew will die some time later.

 
Everyone dies.

In the only ending where Shepard survives, s/he'll be separated from his/her friends and LI forever.

Well, we don't know "forever." There's a chance he'll find his way back to them at some point. Actually, where does the Normandy crash in relation to where Shepard is...?

Shepard always pays the ultimate prize in one or another way.

"Price." Not "prize."

...I'm going to refrain from commenting on the meaning of your statement because I apparently have a different idea of what "the ultimate price" actually is.

It really doesn't make it better if it's about "moral stuff" ... since BW could have done it without ending Shepard's existence, either by adding MORE endings or by slightly altering current endings. In all cases Shepard's story is over.

I'm not really getting whether you're trying to say anything meaningful with this last bit.

[Guldhun2]

Siegdrifa wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

Holy crap. BSN is going to implode next week.

Why would Bioware do this to us? To themselves?

Rumor of a 7 ending available via NG+
It was mentionned on the official guide it seems, and since it's N7, 6 ending with the 7th would be a good gift. As people says it's impossible because it was data mined, may be it'll will come along later with a patch (just an extra video of few hundreds of mo), i remember, with the leak of Liara unused track for the futur SB that Bioware would be extra carful regarding with data mining.

To be honest and what i think about it, don't count on it.
If a 7 ending happen, that would be great, but it's not officialy confirmer and peoples shouldn't get their hope up and betting everything on it as it could be more painfull if it never happen.

There is no NG+ secret ending.

[FluffyScarf]

Again, no more Reapers = Sweet. No cycle of extinction = sweet. Galaxy is safe from ancient evil = sweet.