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#2976
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marstor05 wrote...

didnt one of the writers leave?


Drew left.

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the_one_54321 wrote...

So... everyone here will only be happy if they get the kind of ending that they envisioned?

No one here believes that an ending can be good when it's not what you expected?

Really?


No, everyone will be satisfied when you recieve an ending within 5000 miles of what you wanted and when your choices, your preparations and your effort all mean absolutely nothing. /sarcasm
In the end, your whole preparation and readiness level thing is completely useless, and changes and events in the story that make literally -NO- sense.

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CerberusSoldier wrote...

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You know what? Aside from the endings, to which I am neutral on until I see them myself, literally everything in ME3 has be bubbling with excitement. The new Normandy is just... so much better it's amazing. Liara's quarters... technogasm. War room... awesome. everything... awesome. The music... awesome. The gameplay... awesome.

Hell, I think that Mac Walters may actually be on to something. Although the inherent idea that the endings don't matter and that it's the journey that counts is stupid and that a good ending to a good journey can make an experience far better than one consisting of a good journey, I can easily see why he would say that the journey is what matters because, in ME3, the journey is going to be ****ing awesome.

We also must consider that the founders of BioWare have played and loved it. We know that the German gaming review site named it the best Mass Effect yet. Yes, the endings could disappoint, but holy hell up until that point is going to be sweet.

   




So what if Liara has a SB base on the SR 2 now . when at the end the SR 2 gets destroyed in a crash landing on a remote planet and all on it will eventually die . what you do in the game is pointless when its all but preparing to die



I wouldn't go that far.  The journey may be great, but the destination matters too.

I mean, imagine it as a plane ride to... Hell or someplace equally as terrible.
It's a beautiful, luxury jet, with all your favourite food, drink and people, the journey is going to be amazing.  
But you're still going to Hell.  That's gonna taint the journey a little.

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People have dissected the leaked version now. These are the only endings period. It's confirmed unless there is some day 1 dlc patch this is it. Me and half my guild in WoW cancelled our preorders. Why let us down at the very end.

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Farvahar12 wrote...

Allworkandlowpay wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...
So what if Liara has a SB base on the SR 2 now . when at the end the SR 2 gets destroyed in a crash landing on a remote planet and all on it will eventually die . what you do in the game is pointless when its all but preparing to die 


You guys are depressing. So nihilistic. It's not about the end, it's about getting there. We all knew this was Shepard and crews final journey, we knew they had impossible odds. We knew we wouldn't likely see any of them, or their ship, again.



Errr...no. If a team of galaxys best operatives and 1 ship could take down the Collectors with no casualties, then the whole galaxy could fend of the reapers with acceptable losses. The writers are just not creative.


Careful, that might be considered a personal attack on the writers :P

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Unit-Alpha wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

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Haha, love the new rules. Damage control much?


How are these rules damage control?  It's saying, "you cannot attack or insult a member of the site or staff" essentially.  That's not damage control, that's "be a decenet frelling human being."  Peope have a really, really strange idea of what "damage control" is.


Oh, come on, do you think it was a coincidence? It's because of people attacking each other in this thread.


Of course it's because of this thread.  That's not "damage control", however.  It's enforcing a rule of common sense (that I admittedly didn't use on page 90 myself).

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You all HAVE to read this, just saw it on google news.

www.gamezone.com/products/mass-effect-3/news/mass-effect-3-boasts-many-different-endings

"There a risks involved in how you get there or how you completely not get
there," Gamble explained. "As in the previous games, you’ll make a decision and
you’ll see the outcome and there are huge risks to all of those decisions.
It’s
not cut and dry."
"There are many different endings," he added. "We wouldn’t do it any other
way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and
then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets?
But I can’t say any
more than that…"

Based on all the discussion it would seem he was able to overcome the problem of not being able to give everyone the same ending.

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Jacy Pane wrote...

No, at best I would have liked to see my Shep stranded with her crew. The endings don't seem to make any sense at all.


Thank you! At the very least let them all starve to death together.

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Elegana wrote...

RazorrX wrote...

I am getting a bad DA2 feeling now. They started putting up damage control posts, and now have installed the anti flame shield. Man what happened to Bioware?

REAPERS.




That's very bad man :crying:

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I would be fine with the endings if the Normandy had just crash landed on earth.

Although I might still **** about the control ending apparently not really doing much.

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so if there is no true ending - and someone is quoted as suggesting you hang on to your game saves - does this mean that ME3 is going to be followed by something which might actually sort this mess out?

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This so called endings sounds like one of those nasty Russian novels only a Russian could read - or some artsy crowd no one's every heard off and never will. Something doesn't feel right here - for instance, would BW gain more money from bad endings or a positive ending? Would more of us buy add on content if it didn't help toward a decent ending? Or would we all say what's the point of buying useless material with our hard earned bucks only to gain nothing? Would that help BW in their pocketbook? Which endings would benefit BW? Decent? Or ugly? And if its MY company's future at stake - what would any sane business do? Anger their own fan base? Or continue to have this great fan base?

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The Free Jaffa wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Haha, love the new rules. Damage control much?


How are these rules damage control?  It's saying, "you cannot attack or insult a member of the site or staff" essentially.  That's not damage control, that's "be a decenet frelling human being."  Peope have a really, really strange idea of what "damage control" is.


Oh, come on, do you think it was a coincidence? It's because of people attacking each other in this thread.


Of course it's because of this thread.  That's not "damage control", however.  It's enforcing a rule of common sense (that I admittedly didn't use on page 90 myself).


Well, it's gonna be a method to one-hit eliminate people who say something bad about Bioware's writers, if abused, which I expect it will be.

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the_one_54321 wrote...

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These are all just variations on "the galaxy is ****ed and most major characters are doomed no matter what."

I'm actually not seeing anything along the lines of "the galaxy is ****ed," so far. Just that all the heroes die. Sound pretty *** **** heroic to me.


Hell, that much isn't even true.

Just because it's pretty damn implausible that the Normandy crew survived doesn't mean that wasn't what happened. And I'm not just spouting headcanon crap over here. The post-credits epilogue scene between the old man and his grandson is on the damn world the Normandy crashed onto. It's crystal-frelling-clear even just through reading it that the implication is they're descendants of the Normandy team.

Now, say what you will regarding Garrus and Tali's odds, of course.

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the_one_54321 wrote...

KateKane wrote...
These are all just variations on "the galaxy is ****ed and most major characters are doomed no matter what."

I'm actually not seeing anything along the lines of "the galaxy is ****ed," so far. Just that all the heroes die. Sound pretty *** **** heroic to me.

The Mass Relays are destroyed, thus cutting off several systems from the rest of the galaxy and supply lines. There also seems to be hints that the Citadel gets destroyed, which means that the government for half the galaxy gets nuked and destablized - which WILL cause panic. 
Basically the doom and gloom is inferred, but it's pretty obvious that with the Relays gone whole colonies are at risk of dying out.

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the_one_54321 wrote...

So... everyone here will only be happy if they get the kind of ending that they envisioned?

No one here believes that an ending can be good when it's not what you expected?

Really?

Unit-Alpha wrote...
No, we did not. We expected our choices to have meaning.

And choices are only meaningful if they have the depth of meaning that I want them to have?

Ending the threat of the Reapers for the rest of the future isn't the right kind of meaningful?

Almost all of what I'm seeing here is "if Shepard can't live happily ever after, then the ending is badly written."

And that actually doesn't make any sense at all.


No, I would have been happy with almost any ending. What they did to the normandy? That is not an ending befitting of the adventure. The entire ship crashing into a reaper would have at least satisfied me (even though I prefer and want a happier ending). This...this is just...

I can't really describe it. The send off for this ship, for these characters we've spent so long getting to know, is terrible.

And no, I don't believe just ending the threat of the reapers is worth "whatever happens". Never did. Some things are better not left alive to experience. But overall I'd say the bleakness was fine and not too bad.

It's. The. Damn. Normandy.

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Well i haven't read any of the leaked script. Why you ask? Can't find any of it, so in the off chance some one has it PM a copy or something or a link.

With that said, I am not worried about the endings. Some people say there is only 6 others say there is a way to get a 7th. As with the other ME's I will have 2 or 3 play through' s with my imports and 1 or 2 from a fresh new Shep. We are all going to to DLC's and lets face it if the all the endings are crap then we all with voice this and they will give us a DLC with better endings.

Weather in death or by living my Shep's saves the galaxy as a whole then all of my Shep's and his/her crews have done there jobs. Life goes on both in the ME universe and in the real universe

I just hope there is at least 50 + hours of game play in the base game with some where around 60 to 70 total hours with all the DLC's

If this is my/our last Hur-Ra in the ME then lets go out with a bang instead of the wimpper that I keep reading here!

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Rdubs wrote...

You all HAVE to read this, just saw it on google news.

www.gamezone.com/products/mass-effect-3/news/mass-effect-3-boasts-many-different-endings

"There a risks involved in how you get there or how you completely not get
there," Gamble explained. "As in the previous games, you’ll make a decision and
you’ll see the outcome and there are huge risks to all of those decisions.
It’s
not cut and dry."
"There are many different endings," he added. "We wouldn’t do it any other
way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and
then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets?
But I can’t say any
more than that…"

Based on all the discussion it would seem he was able to overcome the problem of not being able to give everyone the same ending.


It's a nice thought, but the truth is they are doing damage control and trying to get as many preorders as possible, as they know the game is gonna bomb once it is actually away from the starting block.

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Unit-Alpha wrote...

Farvahar12 wrote...

Allworkandlowpay wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...
So what if Liara has a SB base on the SR 2 now . when at the end the SR 2 gets destroyed in a crash landing on a remote planet and all on it will eventually die . what you do in the game is pointless when its all but preparing to die 


You guys are depressing. So nihilistic. It's not about the end, it's about getting there. We all knew this was Shepard and crews final journey, we knew they had impossible odds. We knew we wouldn't likely see any of them, or their ship, again.



Errr...no. If a team of galaxys best operatives and 1 ship could take down the Collectors with no casualties, then the whole galaxy could fend of the reapers with acceptable losses. The writers are just not creative.


Careful, that might be considered a personal attack on the writers :P


Honestly don't think that was it.  I think it was mainly pepole calling each other morons.  As well as a few people that said they wanted to punch or otherwise physically attack Casey or Walter.  A few times threads just became "how can we insult Bioware/Casey/Stanley/Walter as much as we can?"

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the_one_54321 wrote...

KateKane wrote...
These are all just variations on "the galaxy is ****ed and most major characters are doomed no matter what."

I'm actually not seeing anything along the lines of "the galaxy is ****ed," so far. Just that all the heroes die. Sound pretty *** **** heroic to me.


True Heroes come back home alive and f*** their wives! (Or husbands, whatever)

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Not just this thread. Had some heavy fighting in the DLC thread as well. But yeah we can talk and argue as much as we want, just as long as we aren't fighting or threatening people, forum member or otherwise.

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JeffZero wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

KateKane wrote...
These are all just variations on "the galaxy is ****ed and most major characters are doomed no matter what."

I'm actually not seeing anything along the lines of "the galaxy is ****ed," so far. Just that all the heroes die. Sound pretty *** **** heroic to me.


Hell, that much isn't even true.

Just because it's pretty damn implausible that the Normandy crew survived doesn't mean that wasn't what happened. And I'm not just spouting headcanon crap over here. The post-credits epilogue scene between the old man and his grandson is on the damn world the Normandy crashed onto. It's crystal-frelling-clear even just through reading it that the implication is they're descendants of the Normandy team.

Now, say what you will regarding Garrus and Tali's odds, of course.

And if that's the case, there's the unfortunate implication of the considerable inbreeding that would occur.

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marstor05 wrote...

didnt one of the writers leave?


Must have been the good one. =]

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marstor05 wrote...

so if there is no true ending - and someone is quoted as suggesting you hang on to your game saves - does this mean that ME3 is going to be followed by something which might actually sort this mess out?


If it is that's a blatant exploitation to get more money.  You can't sell someone a "finished" game and then a few months later say "lol just kidding, you get the real ending to this $60 game if you give us $20 more."

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Rdubs wrote...

You all HAVE to read this, just saw it on google news.

www.gamezone.com/products/mass-effect-3/news/mass-effect-3-boasts-many-different-endings

"There a risks involved in how you get there or how you completely not get
there," Gamble explained. "As in the previous games, you’ll make a decision and
you’ll see the outcome and there are huge risks to all of those decisions.
It’s
not cut and dry."
"There are many different endings," he added. "We wouldn’t do it any other
way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and
then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets?
But I can’t say any
more than that…"

Based on all the discussion it would seem he was able to overcome the problem of not being able to give everyone the same ending.


...Yeah, I kinda doubt the whole stretch of ending cinematics were re-done in the few days since the guy who got the space launch copy beat the game though.