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Jake505 wrote...

Well i haven't read any of the leaked script. Why you ask? Can't find any of it, so in the off chance some one has it PM a copy or something or a link.

With that said, I am not worried about the endings. Some people say there is only 6 others say there is a way to get a 7th. As with the other ME's I will have 2 or 3 play through' s with my imports and 1 or 2 from a fresh new Shep. We are all going to to DLC's and lets face it if the all the endings are crap then we all with voice this and they will give us a DLC with better endings.

Weather in death or by living my Shep's saves the galaxy as a whole then all of my Shep's and his/her crews have done there jobs. Life goes on both in the ME universe and in the real universe

I just hope there is at least 50 + hours of game play in the base game with some where around 60 to 70 total hours with all the DLC's

If this is my/our last Hur-Ra in the ME then lets go out with a bang instead of the wimpper that I keep reading here!


Main mission is 15 or so. With side missions it's less than 35.

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Allworkandlowpay wrote...

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So what if Liara has a SB base on the SR 2 now . when at the end the SR 2 gets destroyed in a crash landing on a remote planet and all on it will eventually die . what you do in the game is pointless when its all but preparing to die 


You guys are depressing. So nihilistic. It's not about the end, it's about getting there. We all knew this was Shepard and crews final journey, we knew they had impossible odds. We knew we wouldn't likely see any of them, or their ship, again.



Okay, I'm okay with the "ultimate sacrifice". Just give my Shepard and his crew a chance to die together. I don't know, throwing the Normandy against the ultimate reaper or something... I don't care how. Just let me see them telling Shepard, looking at his eyes: "It was an honour to fight at your side Commander!", or the opposite, Shepard telling everyone through the "intercom" that it was an honour to have them by his side. Them Joker throws the Normandy at whatever... This would be bittersweet. The other endings are just bitter, with no sweet.

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Man this thread is going fast. Popcorn anyone?

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Badpie wrote...

marstor05 wrote...

so if there is no true ending - and someone is quoted as suggesting you hang on to your game saves - does this mean that ME3 is going to be followed by something which might actually sort this mess out?


If it is that's a blatant exploitation to get more money.  You can't sell someone a "finished" game and then a few months later say "lol just kidding, you get the real ending to this $60 game if you give us $20 more."


Actually, Square Enix's Final Fantasy XIII-2 is doing exactly that.

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Nyaore wrote...

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KateKane wrote...
These are all just variations on "the galaxy is ****ed and most major characters are doomed no matter what."

I'm actually not seeing anything along the lines of "the galaxy is ****ed," so far. Just that all the heroes die. Sound pretty *** **** heroic to me.

The Mass Relays are destroyed, thus cutting off several systems from the rest of the galaxy and supply lines. There also seems to be hints that the Citadel gets destroyed, which means that the government for half the galaxy gets nuked and destablized - which WILL cause panic. 
Basically the doom and gloom is inferred, but it's pretty obvious that with the Relays gone whole colonies are at risk of dying out.

Sure. Sure.
But... no complete extinction across the galaxy, right? Massive loss of life < total loss of life.

Sounds to me like Shepard wins.

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Actually the new rules are something that any site calling itself a forum should have from the get go when i first came here i was surprised that the mods were so lax some forums i've been in banned you just for calling someone a jerk.

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JeffZero wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

KateKane wrote...
These are all just variations on "the galaxy is ****ed and most major characters are doomed no matter what."

I'm actually not seeing anything along the lines of "the galaxy is ****ed," so far. Just that all the heroes die. Sound pretty *** **** heroic to me.


Hell, that much isn't even true.

Just because it's pretty damn implausible that the Normandy crew survived doesn't mean that wasn't what happened. And I'm not just spouting headcanon crap over here. The post-credits epilogue scene between the old man and his grandson is on the damn world the Normandy crashed onto. It's crystal-frelling-clear even just through reading it that the implication is they're descendants of the Normandy team.

Now, say what you will regarding Garrus and Tali's odds, of course.

Not only that, but nothing I have seen indicates that the world the Normandy crashes on is even deserted.  That's just something that seems to have become a meme here as things spiral out of control, like a game of Telephone.

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Unit-Alpha wrote...

Rdubs wrote...

You all HAVE to read this, just saw it on google news.

www.gamezone.com/products/mass-effect-3/news/mass-effect-3-boasts-many-different-endings

"There a risks involved in how you get there or how you completely not get
there," Gamble explained. "As in the previous games, you’ll make a decision and
you’ll see the outcome and there are huge risks to all of those decisions.
It’s
not cut and dry."
"There are many different endings," he added. "We wouldn’t do it any other
way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and
then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets?
But I can’t say any
more than that…"

Based on all the discussion it would seem he was able to overcome the problem of not being able to give everyone the same ending.


It's a nice thought, but the truth is they are doing damage control and trying to get as many preorders as possible, as they know the game is gonna bomb once it is actually away from the starting block.


Hahaha.  That's a funny thought, that the game is going to bomb.  I hope someone cancelling their preorder is from Cincinnati and has the Collector's Edition on the X-Box.  My brother would like to take your pre-order.  As would many, many others.

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Unit-Alpha wrote...

Jake505 wrote...

Well i haven't read any of the leaked script. Why you ask? Can't find any of it, so in the off chance some one has it PM a copy or something or a link.

With that said, I am not worried about the endings. Some people say there is only 6 others say there is a way to get a 7th. As with the other ME's I will have 2 or 3 play through' s with my imports and 1 or 2 from a fresh new Shep. We are all going to to DLC's and lets face it if the all the endings are crap then we all with voice this and they will give us a DLC with better endings.

Weather in death or by living my Shep's saves the galaxy as a whole then all of my Shep's and his/her crews have done there jobs. Life goes on both in the ME universe and in the real universe

I just hope there is at least 50 + hours of game play in the base game with some where around 60 to 70 total hours with all the DLC's

If this is my/our last Hur-Ra in the ME then lets go out with a bang instead of the wimpper that I keep reading here!


Main mission is 15 or so. With side missions it's less than 35.


Please don't give him exact figures. We all play the games differently. The same can be said for ME1 and ME2 with remarkable ease; in fact they're both fully beatable in less time.

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Rdubs wrote...

You all HAVE to read this, just saw it on google news.

www.gamezone.com/products/mass-effect-3/news/mass-effect-3-boasts-many-different-endings

"There a risks involved in how you get there or how you completely not get
there," Gamble explained. "As in the previous games, you’ll make a decision and
you’ll see the outcome and there are huge risks to all of those decisions.
It’s
not cut and dry."
"There are many different endings," he added. "We wouldn’t do it any other
way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and
then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets?
But I can’t say any
more than that…"

Based on all the discussion it would seem he was able to overcome the problem of not being able to give everyone the same ending.


Thanks thant.s cool everyone can get what ending they want :D

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Unit-Alpha wrote...

Haha, love the new rules. Damage control much?


How are these rules damage control?  It's saying, "you cannot attack or insult a member of the site or staff" essentially.  That's not damage control, that's "be a decenet frelling human being."  Peope have a really, really strange idea of what "damage control" is.


Until they start claiming that saying "You guys really screwed this game up and ruined the ME franchise" is a personal attack on the devs. 

Don't scoff, I've seen it happen elsewhere, and given the general attitude of EA right now (going after modding the game, etc), it's entirely possible for it to happen here too.

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I swear to ****ing god if I have another one of MY personal, CUSTOM, characters, (David Shepard) killed off, in ANOTHER "Lone Wolf", Halo Reach style ending, AGAIN, (like David "Noble Six" B312) to further PONY UP to the MASTER CHIEF videogaming MONARCHY, I will be thoroughly, and, reasonably, PISSED.

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JeffZero wrote...

Badpie wrote...

marstor05 wrote...

so if there is no true ending - and someone is quoted as suggesting you hang on to your game saves - does this mean that ME3 is going to be followed by something which might actually sort this mess out?


If it is that's a blatant exploitation to get more money.  You can't sell someone a "finished" game and then a few months later say "lol just kidding, you get the real ending to this $60 game if you give us $20 more."


Actually, Square Enix's Final Fantasy XIII-2 is doing exactly that.

And let's see just how well that pans out for them. Personally I won't touch that game with a ten foot pole knowing they deliberately withheld the end of the story for DLC.

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BobSmith101 wrote...

Rakia Time wrote...

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RazorrX wrote...

I am getting a bad DA2 feeling now. They started putting up damage control posts, and now have installed the anti flame shield. Man what happened to Bioware?


EA happened :huh:


so EA would want to murder a franchise that makes them money? i doubt that


It's happened before.


This is not BSG and the Pythian Profecy which says it will all happen again.

So say we all!

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Nyaore wrote...

Man this thread is going fast. Popcorn anyone?


Popcorn meh, i prefer chips :D

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JeffZero wrote...

Rdubs wrote...

You all HAVE to read this, just saw it on google news.

www.gamezone.com/products/mass-effect-3/news/mass-effect-3-boasts-many-different-endings

"There a risks involved in how you get there or how you completely not get
there," Gamble explained. "As in the previous games, you’ll make a decision and
you’ll see the outcome and there are huge risks to all of those decisions.
It’s
not cut and dry."
"There are many different endings," he added. "We wouldn’t do it any other
way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and
then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets?
But I can’t say any
more than that…"

Based on all the discussion it would seem he was able to overcome the problem of not being able to give everyone the same ending.


...Yeah, I kinda doubt the whole stretch of ending cinematics were re-done in the few days since the guy who got the space launch copy beat the game though.

bs
its those endings and thats all. bw are just trying to pretty it up - as it were

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The Free Jaffa wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Farvahar12 wrote...

Allworkandlowpay wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...
So what if Liara has a SB base on the SR 2 now . when at the end the SR 2 gets destroyed in a crash landing on a remote planet and all on it will eventually die . what you do in the game is pointless when its all but preparing to die 


You guys are depressing. So nihilistic. It's not about the end, it's about getting there. We all knew this was Shepard and crews final journey, we knew they had impossible odds. We knew we wouldn't likely see any of them, or their ship, again.



Errr...no. If a team of galaxys best operatives and 1 ship could take down the Collectors with no casualties, then the whole galaxy could fend of the reapers with acceptable losses. The writers are just not creative.


Careful, that might be considered a personal attack on the writers :P


Honestly don't think that was it.  I think it was mainly pepole calling each other morons.  As well as a few people that said they wanted to punch or otherwise physically attack Casey or Walter.  A few times threads just became "how can we insult Bioware/Casey/Stanley/Walter as much as we can?"


Notice the :P. It was a joke.

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Tietj wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

KateKane wrote...
These are all just variations on "the galaxy is ****ed and most major characters are doomed no matter what."

I'm actually not seeing anything along the lines of "the galaxy is ****ed," so far. Just that all the heroes die. Sound pretty *** **** heroic to me.


Hell, that much isn't even true.

Just because it's pretty damn implausible that the Normandy crew survived doesn't mean that wasn't what happened. And I'm not just spouting headcanon crap over here. The post-credits epilogue scene between the old man and his grandson is on the damn world the Normandy crashed onto. It's crystal-frelling-clear even just through reading it that the implication is they're descendants of the Normandy team.

Now, say what you will regarding Garrus and Tali's odds, of course.

Not only that, but nothing I have seen indicates that the world the Normandy crashes on is even deserted.  That's just something that seems to have become a meme here as things spiral out of control, like a game of Telephone.


Well, I've seen a picture of the world. No, I won't re-upload it -- I didn't upload it in the first place and it's long since been taken down. I won't get involved in legal issues like that, no sir. But I saw it with my own two eyes, and... it looks pretty deserted, I'd say.

I mean, you never know. But...

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Rdubs wrote...

You all HAVE to read this, just saw it on google news.

www.gamezone.com/products/mass-effect-3/news/mass-effect-3-boasts-many-different-endings

"There a risks involved in how you get there or how you completely not get
there," Gamble explained. "As in the previous games, you’ll make a decision and
you’ll see the outcome and there are huge risks to all of those decisions.
It’s
not cut and dry."
"There are many different endings," he added. "We wouldn’t do it any other
way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and
then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets?
But I can’t say any
more than that…"

Based on all the discussion it would seem he was able to overcome the problem of not being able to give everyone the same ending.


What does this mean? Do we get variations in the ending? Is there an ending where everyone reunites? I'm not going to be able to go through all endings next week because I'm going to want to do every side mission or get every resource because I'll be scared to not be prepared when the final battle comes......Does it even matter if all endings are tragic though?

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So, Bioware's games are like a Choose Your Own Adventure novel.

Except your choices all lead to you falling into a pit and breaking your legs.

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RazorrX wrote...

marstor05 wrote...

didnt one of the writers leave?


Drew left.


I wouldn't blame him.

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DragonRageGT wrote...
True Heroes come back home alive and f*** their wives! (Or husbands, whatever)

The Chuck Noris stuff is entertaining because it's mostly funny and unrealistic. Not because it's heroic.

John McClain's wife leaves him after the second movie.

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turian councilor Knockout wrote...

Nyaore wrote...

Man this thread is going fast. Popcorn anyone?


Popcorn meh, i prefer chips :D

I have those too. The best way to handle a potential **** storm is to bring lots of snacks. :P

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Nyaore wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Badpie wrote...

marstor05 wrote...

so if there is no true ending - and someone is quoted as suggesting you hang on to your game saves - does this mean that ME3 is going to be followed by something which might actually sort this mess out?


If it is that's a blatant exploitation to get more money.  You can't sell someone a "finished" game and then a few months later say "lol just kidding, you get the real ending to this $60 game if you give us $20 more."


Actually, Square Enix's Final Fantasy XIII-2 is doing exactly that.

And let's see just how well that pans out for them. Personally I won't touch that game with a ten foot pole knowing they deliberately withheld the end of the story for DLC.


Well, I won't touch it with a ten-foot pole for plenty of reasons. But it's sold respectively enough.

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Killjoy Cutter wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Haha, love the new rules. Damage control much?


How are these rules damage control?  It's saying, "you cannot attack or insult a member of the site or staff" essentially.  That's not damage control, that's "be a decenet frelling human being."  Peope have a really, really strange idea of what "damage control" is.


Until they start claiming that saying "You guys really screwed this game up and ruined the ME franchise" is a personal attack on the devs. 

Don't scoff, I've seen it happen elsewhere, and given the general attitude of EA right now (going after modding the game, etc), it's entirely possible for it to happen here too.


Bingo. No tolerence means they can take anything as a personal attack and wipe out legions of people who are exposing what seems to be the truth.