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[Pipe 42]

Just had a couple of thoughts whilst I'm trying to get to sleep.

This Legendsav. thing that someone says appears in the games files. Is that accessible by just redoing the illusive man base and Earth missions? As you finish the game for the first time it comes up with a trite error message saying Shepard is now a legend. Does this perhaps change the nature of your save game so you can unlock stuff on the disc already? I don't know how many people did those two events then had another pop at them straight off as you can just restart the last mission from when you get blasted by Harbinger right?

Maybe I'm clutching at emergency induction ports and some of you have tried this, but I'm now having another crack at the endgame and hope something changes.

The other thought I had was this, has anyone else noticed how filthy Manshep's hands are during this game?! It's like he's not washed them since the Alliance grounded him.... Gross, and you touch your LI with those hands! Ewwwwwww....

[PurpleWhisper]

Hydralysk wrote...

Atraiyu Wrynn wrote...

 

Oh wow, that summed up exactly what the end felt like.

lmao, yup! That covers it!

[Mythandariel]

I just had an idea. Instead of War Readiness and PMS and LSD and all that crap, how about we replace it all with a bucket list?
You get most of your crew back by completing missions and because this could be the last thing they all do, everyone has the ONE thing they want to do before they die.
Help them with that ONE thing and you will have their eternal gratitude and ensure that they survive all of the trials ahead with complete trust in you.
And the LI's ONE thing will be different from his default ONE thing.

Like with Garrus, since he's fallen head over spurs in love with Shepard, he wants his father's blessing and he tracks him down to a transport ship arriving from Palaven. It all depends on how you handled Garrus in ME1. Renegade ending with Garrus going for Specter status will put you on his father's **** list. Pagagon ending with Garrus returning to C-Sec, will make him a little more open to the idea. Pagragon+ is getting Garrus' colony mark tattooed on Shepard's face.

Or Thane's ONE thing is to go to the Drell homeworld and bask in it's sunlight before he dies.

If he's a LI, he would want to make it offical and get Kolyat's blessing. If you screwed up Thane's loyalty mission, then Kolyat will be resistant to the idea, even going so far as to call it disgusting. If you kept him from screwing himself over, he would have a healthy respect for Shepard and understand his father's attraction to a woman like her.

Samara's would be to speak to her daughters one last time.

Morinth's would be to free her sisters and the other Ardat-Yakshi from the Monistary.

Mordin's would be to cure the Genophage.

Grunt's would be to fight something really big with nothing but a shot gun.

Or Jacob's, if he isn't an LI, would be to catch up with an old flame of his that you just rescued from Cerberus.
 
Kolyat might even get one, depending on how Thane's loyalty mission turned out. He might want to either join the Eclipse or Blue Suns and you would have to get him out of his initiation when it goes wrong, which he has a very real possiblity of dying in. (if you failed the loyalty mission) or he would want to get some pointers from Garrus so he can graduate from C-Sec academy with honors (if you succeeded).

Miranda might want to settle the score with her father once and for all and dependant on her loyalty mission, rescue her sister. If she was an LI, she could be visibly pregnant (because Shepard is so bad ass he can make Lawson pregnant even when she was told she is infirtile.)

Legion would want to free the rest of the Geth from Reaper control so that the war between them and the Quarians would end. Dependant on what you did with the Heretics, either the Geth come back under Quarian control (Whiped out Heritics) or he would help them all gain senceance (ReWrote Heritics).

Tali would want to breathe the air of her home world. And dependant on what the result of Legion's loyalty mission and if you brokered peace or destroyed them all, either the Geth help the Quarians aclimate to their homeworld again or command the newly reconquored Geth to start building sterilized prefabs for housing, or try to comfort Tali as she realizes the monumental task before her people to rebuild without the Geth.

Joker might want his hamburger. A real, honest to God dead cow, with horseradish. Perhaps, Shepard would be able to confess his/her feelings for her favorite pilot and finely have the kiss the Shoker shipers have always wanted.

EDI would wish to prod Shepard with questions, like she did in the game and based on Shepard's actions in ME2 and 3, would either remain a limited AI, or become the complex, living being she wishes herself to be. If you don't make your move on Joker when the option is first offered, she will persue a relationship with him and your Shepard will have to get a grip. (in his/her bunk)

Garrus, if he isn't a LI, would want to go curve-gliding. (The date was cute, but very fan-fictioney. Imagine the alergic response kissing a Turian would bring on.).

Jacob, if he is an LI, would want to make it offical and hold at least a civil ceremony on the Citadel with Admiral Anderson presiding via QEC.

Liara would want to meet her Father, and dependant on whether she was your sole LI, said father would either tell you she accepts your relationship but has a squad of Asari Commandos waiting in the wings if he/she makes her baby unhappy. (Cheated on Liara) Or she would accept your relationship and comment on how she always liked Shepard and that if the two ever had trouble, she had just the tools needed to make that problem go away. (stayed faithful)

Kaiden/Ashley would want to visit the place where it all began, Eden Prime. Dependant on if you visit early or late in the game, you could hold off the Cerberus invasion long enough for the colonists to escape and even find the Prothean the colonists recovered.

If they were LI's, you would get a heart to heart with them. If you cheated on them, they would be reluctant to restart their romance with you, but they would try if you wanted. If you stayed faithful, you would be treated to a full on passionate kiss as the Cerberus transports explode in the background after you thward their invasion attempt.

Just reduce the whole readiness thing to Admiral Hackett updating you via QEC of the fleet's progress with the Crucible. Simple and easy to interpret.

And more Hackett is never a bad thing.

What do you think? Did I miss anything?

[Alexraptor1]

baronkohinar wrote...

Also, looking on the ME3 Twitter page, I see a lot of people complaining about the ending in pretty harsh terms (it sucked, was crap, garbage, s**t, etc...) and then, when they're asked what they didn't like, most of them haven't even responded. I don't know how much it's worth but BioWare is actually asking them to back up their statements and they're not responding to them. Seriously, BioWare is asking for feedback from these people and they can't be bothered to respond to them? Can't help but think this makes them, and by proxy us, look bad. Hopefully they get on top of it soon.

Well what is there to say?
The entire ending is a complete convoluted mess.
There is not one single redeeming quality with any of them.

Anderson should get his full dialogue back, and the part after he dies should be completely scrapped and be remade.
Preferrably with some kind of final confrontation with Harbinger.

[BlackDevil06]

Signing off Folks. Getting late here in Germany.

Hold the line, I'll be back tomorrow.

[ld1449]

Puerto Rican fighter fleet reporting in

Who do I shoot at???

Modifié par ld1449, 15 mars 2012 - 02:26 .

[Sevantha]

baronkohinar wrote...

unclee wrote...

Stargazer is only in the ending if you either import a Shepard or finish NG+.

Correct, this has been my experience as well (though most sites were only listing it as a NG+, signifying once again that a lot of reviewers weren't concerned with taking one character through all three games as we were... maybe that's why the ending didn't impact them in the same way it did us, because they didn't have the same emotional investment that we did?).

This is not correct, I didn't import my character because i lost my save games in the last pc format (stupid me) and I got to see Stargazer in the end

[babelcarlota]

I was going through so much grief the last two weeks and ME3 was my "escape" then this ending came about... sigh. Glad I could talk to my therapist about this too lol. Her reaction was just wow. But damn I am mixed emotions and it just added to my already grieving two weeks. Can we sue them for Post Traumatic Stress Disorder? Sheesh. I guess that's wishful thinking.

[Faceless Minion]

christrek1982 wrote...

keep in mind that Japan have a very diffrent outlook on life and storyteling they may like it

You're right, they DO have a very different outlook than us!
A far more militant one about silly senseless endings to series.

If the response is anything like the response was to the original end of NGE, then we'll be moving from polite petitions to mass death threats.

[Darkwingduck]

Bubi7 wrote...

Darkwingduck wrote...
One could not make blue babies with Liara if one was dead and said Liara was stranded on random jungle island. Shepard is amazing but...does not possess THAT ghost baby making skill. 

when you are going to the cerberus base, you get cut scenes, and one of them shows Sheppard half naked and Liara naked (I guess) having alien sexy time.
At least that happened for me.
Liara could be pregant from now on, giving birth to little blue children on that planet they strand.
Which in this case proves to be one problem again:
Everytime I heard something about asari children, I never witnessed any of them say there are twins
conclusion: best case scenario:
Liara with one little blue kid, Joker and Garrus on some weird Garden world, rest of most of the species on earth.
Durr, what am I writing here..

Yes I suppose that is true I never pictured pre-crazy mission banging to be child producing. But yes you make a very valid point and I concede the fact. I do however remain hopeful that Ali as sending us a secret 'it'll be ok' message. 

[Marixus99.9]

Atraiyu Wrynn wrote...

 

Where did you find this !?? Oh god my laughter hurts ..

[ashley_actually]

unclee wrote...

As has been said before: let's try to cut out the negative images. It's things like that which could get this thread shut down. We want Bioware to see that we're civil about this whole thing so let's try to limit images that could potentially harm what we're trying to do here.

According to the site rules and code of conduct:
No posts that are just pictures and no adult content. Don't give them a reason to lock this thread down guys. 
Hold the line.

[sunnygsm]

Mythandariel wrote...

I just had an idea. Instead of War Readiness and PMS and LSD and all that crap, how about we replace it all with a bucket list?
You get most of your crew back by completing missions and because this could be the last thing they all do, everyone has the ONE thing they want to do before they die.
Help them with that ONE thing and you will have their eternal gratitude and ensure that they survive all of the trials ahead with complete trust in you.
And the LI's ONE thing will be different from his default ONE thing.

Like with Garrus, since he's fallen head over spurs in love with Shepard, he wants his father's blessing and he tracks him down to a transport ship arriving from Palaven. It all depends on how you handled Garrus in ME1. Renegade ending with Garrus going for Specter status will put you on his father's **** list. Pagagon ending with Garrus returning to C-Sec, will make him a little more open to the idea. Pagragon+ is getting Garrus' colony mark tattooed on Shepard's face.

Or Thane's ONE thing is to go to the Drell homeworld and bask in it's sunlight before he dies.

If he's a LI, he would want to make it offical and get Kolyat's blessing. If you screwed up Thane's loyalty mission, then Kolyat will be resistant to the idea, even going so far as to call it disgusting. If you kept him from screwing himself over, he would have a healthy respect for Shepard and understand his father's attraction to a woman like her.

Samara's would be to speak to her daughters one last time.

Morinth's would be to free her sisters and the other Ardat-Yakshi from the Monistary.

Mordin's would be to cure the Genophage.

Grunt's would be to fight something really big with nothing but a shot gun.

Or Jacob's, if he isn't an LI, would be to catch up with an old flame of his that you just rescued from Cerberus.
 
Kolyat might even get one, depending on how Thane's loyalty mission turned out. He might want to either join the Eclipse or Blue Suns and you would have to get him out of his initiation when it goes wrong, which he has a very real possiblity of dying in. (if you failed the loyalty mission) or he would want to get some pointers from Garrus so he can graduate from C-Sec academy with honors (if you succeeded).

Miranda might want to settle the score with her father once and for all and dependant on her loyalty mission, rescue her sister. If she was an LI, she could be visibly pregnant (because Shepard is so bad ass he can make Lawson pregnant even when she was told she is infirtile.)

Legion would want to free the rest of the Geth from Reaper control so that the war between them and the Quarians would end. Dependant on what you did with the Heretics, either the Geth come back under Quarian control (Whiped out Heritics) or he would help them all gain senceance (ReWrote Heritics).

Tali would want to breathe the air of her home world. And dependant on what the result of Legion's loyalty mission and if you brokered peace or destroyed them all, either the Geth help the Quarians aclimate to their homeworld again or command the newly reconquored Geth to start building sterilized prefabs for housing, or try to comfort Tali as she realizes the monumental task before her people to rebuild without the Geth.

Joker might want his hamburger. A real, honest to God dead cow, with horseradish. Perhaps, Shepard would be able to confess his/her feelings for her favorite pilot and finely have the kiss the Shoker shipers have always wanted.

EDI would wish to prod Shepard with questions, like she did in the game and based on Shepard's actions in ME2 and 3, would either remain a limited AI, or become the complex, living being she wishes herself to be. If you don't make your move on Joker when the option is first offered, she will persue a relationship with him and your Shepard will have to get a grip. (in his/her bunk)

Garrus, if he isn't a LI, would want to go curve-gliding. (The date was cute, but very fan-fictioney. Imagine the alergic response kissing a Turian would bring on.).

Jacob, if he is an LI, would want to make it offical and hold at least a civil ceremony on the Citadel with Admiral Anderson presiding via QEC.

Liara would want to meet her Father, and dependant on whether she was your sole LI, said father would either tell you she accepts your relationship but has a squad of Asari Commandos waiting in the wings if he/she makes her baby unhappy. (Cheated on Liara) Or she would accept your relationship and comment on how she always liked Shepard and that if the two ever had trouble, she had just the tools needed to make that problem go away. (stayed faithful)

Kaiden/Ashley would want to visit the place where it all began, Eden Prime. Dependant on if you visit early or late in the game, you could hold off the Cerberus invasion long enough for the colonists to escape and even find the Prothean the colonists recovered.

If they were LI's, you would get a heart to heart with them. If you cheated on them, they would be reluctant to restart their romance with you, but they would try if you wanted. If you stayed faithful, you would be treated to a full on passionate kiss as the Cerberus transports explode in the background after you thward their invasion attempt.

Just reduce the whole readiness thing to Admiral Hackett updating you via QEC of the fleet's progress with the Crucible. Simple and easy to interpret.

And more Hackett is never a bad thing.

What do you think? Did I miss anything?

Don't like it, we have a war to fight, I doubt anyone cares about a bucket list at times like that. 

[WvStolzing]

Pipe 42 wrote...
he's not washed them since the Alliance grounded him.... Gross, and you touch your LI with those hands! Ewwwwwww....

Yes the dirty hands in the bed scene were really awkward.

[Computim]

sunnygsm wrote...

Mythandariel wrote...

I just had an idea. Instead of War Readiness and PMS and LSD and all that crap, how about we replace it all with a bucket list?
You get most of your crew back by completing missions and because this could be the last thing they all do, everyone has the ONE thing they want to do before they die.
Help them with that ONE thing and you will have their eternal gratitude and ensure that they survive all of the trials ahead with complete trust in you.
And the LI's ONE thing will be different from his default ONE thing.

Like with Garrus, since he's fallen head over spurs in love with Shepard, he wants his father's blessing and he tracks him down to a transport ship arriving from Palaven. It all depends on how you handled Garrus in ME1. Renegade ending with Garrus going for Specter status will put you on his father's **** list. Pagagon ending with Garrus returning to C-Sec, will make him a little more open to the idea. Pagragon+ is getting Garrus' colony mark tattooed on Shepard's face.

Or Thane's ONE thing is to go to the Drell homeworld and bask in it's sunlight before he dies.

If he's a LI, he would want to make it offical and get Kolyat's blessing. If you screwed up Thane's loyalty mission, then Kolyat will be resistant to the idea, even going so far as to call it disgusting. If you kept him from screwing himself over, he would have a healthy respect for Shepard and understand his father's attraction to a woman like her.

Samara's would be to speak to her daughters one last time.

Morinth's would be to free her sisters and the other Ardat-Yakshi from the Monistary.

Mordin's would be to cure the Genophage.

Grunt's would be to fight something really big with nothing but a shot gun.

Or Jacob's, if he isn't an LI, would be to catch up with an old flame of his that you just rescued from Cerberus.
 
Kolyat might even get one, depending on how Thane's loyalty mission turned out. He might want to either join the Eclipse or Blue Suns and you would have to get him out of his initiation when it goes wrong, which he has a very real possiblity of dying in. (if you failed the loyalty mission) or he would want to get some pointers from Garrus so he can graduate from C-Sec academy with honors (if you succeeded).

Miranda might want to settle the score with her father once and for all and dependant on her loyalty mission, rescue her sister. If she was an LI, she could be visibly pregnant (because Shepard is so bad ass he can make Lawson pregnant even when she was told she is infirtile.)

Legion would want to free the rest of the Geth from Reaper control so that the war between them and the Quarians would end. Dependant on what you did with the Heretics, either the Geth come back under Quarian control (Whiped out Heritics) or he would help them all gain senceance (ReWrote Heritics).

Tali would want to breathe the air of her home world. And dependant on what the result of Legion's loyalty mission and if you brokered peace or destroyed them all, either the Geth help the Quarians aclimate to their homeworld again or command the newly reconquored Geth to start building sterilized prefabs for housing, or try to comfort Tali as she realizes the monumental task before her people to rebuild without the Geth.

Joker might want his hamburger. A real, honest to God dead cow, with horseradish. Perhaps, Shepard would be able to confess his/her feelings for her favorite pilot and finely have the kiss the Shoker shipers have always wanted.

EDI would wish to prod Shepard with questions, like she did in the game and based on Shepard's actions in ME2 and 3, would either remain a limited AI, or become the complex, living being she wishes herself to be. If you don't make your move on Joker when the option is first offered, she will persue a relationship with him and your Shepard will have to get a grip. (in his/her bunk)

Garrus, if he isn't a LI, would want to go curve-gliding. (The date was cute, but very fan-fictioney. Imagine the alergic response kissing a Turian would bring on.).

Jacob, if he is an LI, would want to make it offical and hold at least a civil ceremony on the Citadel with Admiral Anderson presiding via QEC.

Liara would want to meet her Father, and dependant on whether she was your sole LI, said father would either tell you she accepts your relationship but has a squad of Asari Commandos waiting in the wings if he/she makes her baby unhappy. (Cheated on Liara) Or she would accept your relationship and comment on how she always liked Shepard and that if the two ever had trouble, she had just the tools needed to make that problem go away. (stayed faithful)

Kaiden/Ashley would want to visit the place where it all began, Eden Prime. Dependant on if you visit early or late in the game, you could hold off the Cerberus invasion long enough for the colonists to escape and even find the Prothean the colonists recovered.

If they were LI's, you would get a heart to heart with them. If you cheated on them, they would be reluctant to restart their romance with you, but they would try if you wanted. If you stayed faithful, you would be treated to a full on passionate kiss as the Cerberus transports explode in the background after you thward their invasion attempt.

Just reduce the whole readiness thing to Admiral Hackett updating you via QEC of the fleet's progress with the Crucible. Simple and easy to interpret.

And more Hackett is never a bad thing.

What do you think? Did I miss anything?

Don't like it, we have a war to fight, I doubt anyone cares about a bucket list at times like that. 

It's not bad!  I have to admit that I like the current game though, I just want them to finish it, not rewrite the thing though.  Hope that doesn't come across too critical, not trying to be

[People4Peace]

PurpleWhisper wrote...

Hydralysk wrote...

Atraiyu Wrynn wrote...

*removed image
 

Oh wow, that summed up exactly what the end felt like.

lmao, yup! That covers it!

LOL, exactly. Damn you Star/God Child!

Modifié par People4Peace, 15 mars 2012 - 02:29 .

[TamiBx]

Faceless Minion wrote...

christrek1982 wrote...

keep in mind that Japan have a very diffrent outlook on life and storyteling they may like it

You're right, they DO have a very different outlook than us!
A far more militant one about silly senseless endings to series.

If the response is anything like the response was to the original end of NGE, then we'll be moving from polite petitions to mass death threats.

HAHAHA!!! That reminds me of the death threats the author of Neon Genesis Evangelion received...

[baronkohinar]

Alexraptor1 wrote...

Well what is there to say?
The entire ending is a complete convoluted mess.
There is not one single redeeming quality with any of them.

Anderson should get his full dialogue back, and the part after he dies should be completely scrapped and be remade.
Preferrably with some kind of final confrontation with Harbinger.

And while that's true, if that's the way those people feel, they should tell BW that when they're asked about it. If everyone cites the same specific problems with the endings over and over again, they can't ignore them, whereas simply saying something subjective like 'it's crap' and never elaborating doesn't help anyone. Seriously, why even bother to complain to them unless you're willing to help them try and solve the problem?

[xAmilli0n]

Anything interesting happen in the last few hours? It seems like @masseffect is responding to more people now.

[Mythandariel]

Not offended. I just had to get that out of my head and on the screen. I do like the game as it is except for how they kind of forgot about Thane and botched the last bit.

BTW: What's the total for Child's Play up to right now?

Modifié par Mythandariel, 15 mars 2012 - 02:31 .

[Hydralysk]

baronkohinar wrote...

Also, looking on the ME3 Twitter page, I see a lot of people complaining about the ending in pretty harsh terms (it sucked, was crap, garbage, s**t, etc...) and then, when they're asked what they didn't like, most of them haven't even responded. I don't know how much it's worth but BioWare is actually asking them to back up their statements and they're not responding to them. Seriously, BioWare is asking for feedback from these people and they can't be bothered to respond to them? Can't help but think this makes them, and by proxy us, look bad. Hopefully they get on top of it soon.

Well there isn't much of a way to deliver a well resoned response within 140 characters. If they really want our opinion they can see the multiple walls of text posted by person after person in this thread, or they could just look at the long articles we keep linking them in response.

There just isn't much you can say in 140 characters other than "The ending sucked, will you please change it?".

[RussianOrc]

im back people.
any news the last 3h?

[foxtrotcharlie]

Berty213 wrote...

Tarnation007 wrote...

Question - if they make us wait for months for any sort of confirmation, who here thinks they can hold the line for that long?

Me! I refuse to back down, I will hold the line!

Same here, holding till the last man.  The only time you see the back of a true mass effect fan's head is when they are dead. 

[WvStolzing]

baronkohinar wrote...

Alexraptor1 wrote...

Well what is there to say?
The entire ending is a complete convoluted mess.
There is not one single redeeming quality with any of them.

Anderson should get his full dialogue back, and the part after he dies should be completely scrapped and be remade.
Preferrably with some kind of final confrontation with Harbinger.

And while that's true, if that's the way those people feel, they should tell BW that when they're asked about it. If everyone cites the same specific problems with the endings over and over again, they can't ignore them, whereas simply saying something subjective like 'it's crap' and never elaborating doesn't help anyone. Seriously, why even bother to complain to them unless you're willing to help them try and solve the problem?

There's some improvement, in the last few messages.

[PurpleWhisper]

Right its 2:30am here so i'm signing off for now. Great to know so many are here holding the line. Keep it up everyone! This thread has helped ease the pain. Stay strong!