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[TamiBx]

Darkwingduck wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

Darkwingduck wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

RussianOrc wrote...

Stanley is talking here http://social.biowar...ndex/9960839/20

That's in the no spoilers allowed forum, right? Dang, they are smart. They know we can't talk about the details there...

Wouldn't matter they wouldn't respond even if you could throw all the spoilery evidence at them. They're information gathering right now. To quote Legion they're building a consensus you have to give them time before they can respond properly to you. 

I know, but what I meant was that they know we can't talk about the ending in details (we can't complain WHY we didn't like it, because that would be spoiling), so the conversation will go no where. Not that they would answer us here, but there we can't complain either. 

We shouldn't seek to "complain" we should explain our point of view. We want to make them understand not only that yes we are dissatisfied but why we are and why we want a change. 

Yes, that's exactly what I meant. I'm sorry, English is not my first language, and some words don't translate that well from my language to English. 

[Lord Costantino]

Don't despair on the voice of one crowd control guy. We will make it through stay strong.

Hold the Line!

[foxtrotcharlie]

DifferentD17 wrote...

There won't be a next time for me, if they don't fix this.

I am sure this is also true with many fans of Bioware.  

And even those who will still buy their future products, the gaping fault of this ending will always lie in video game history as one of the biggest video game flops of all time. 


Please Bioware, grow a pair of cojones: admit your goddamn mistake and fix it. 


This continual dancing around the main issue with ME3 by the PR team is truly becoming tiresome and pathetic.  
Man up and admit your mistake or just give us the finger with some BS Mako DLC.

It's not difficult to comprehend--choose one or the other Bioware. <_<

Modifié par foxtrotcharlie, 15 mars 2012 - 03:35 .

[Lord Costantino]

TamiBx wrote...

Lord Costantino wrote...

Same, but his hands are tied along with all of Biowares till Japans launch. Not justified but still thats why. They should answer now because of how big this has gotten and the price drops.

The game did launch in Japan. It is March 15th there. This might explain why someone decided to show up. But they won't say anything, because it's "too soon" <_<

^this

[mauro2222]

[wicked_being]

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[Faceless Minion]

Olueq wrote...

Okay so question(s) regarding the ending. Ill say it in cap locks casue it pissed me off.

WHY DIDNT THEY ****ING GO TO ILOS AND USE THE CONDUIT TO GET TO THE CITADEL? AND WHY/HOW DID THE CITADEL MOVE TO EARTH? AND HOW WAS TIM CONTROLLING SHEPARD AND ANDERSON AT THE END?

You know, the first two are fairly simple.

1. The conduit broke, and even if it didn't, the fact that the citadel moved locations means the mass relay wouldn't work either way.

2. It's a giant, ancient, supertech space station that none of us know anything about.  The idea of it having engines is not a difficult one to swallow.

3.  Ideally we'll get to find that Shepherd's been indoctrinated by the end or something similar.

[Annaleah]

Lord Costantino wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

Lord Costantino wrote...

Same, but his hands are tied along with all of Biowares till Japans launch. Not justified but still thats why. They should answer now because of how big this has gotten and the price drops.

The game did launch in Japan. It is March 15th there. This might explain why someone decided to show up. But they won't say anything, because it's "too soon" <_<

^this

Yeah we have to wait for japanese people to start beating the game... which shouldn't take long...

[Kloborgg711]

Jackal7713 wrote...

Atraiyu Wrynn wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

Computim wrote...

Yeah hey... vocal minority: They announced they sold 1.3 million copies of ME3 this week, already 45,000 people have voted that they don't like it, maybe 1000 more haven't voted and said so on here, using industry standard rule of 10 people for every 1 that complains that'd be 466,000 people didn't like it, or about 35% of everyone who BOUGHT the game, not finished but BOUGHT the game. The polls on the web with a massive margin of error they were 96 to 4... margin of error of even 20% still makes it 76%...

Yeah we may be a minority using the hard numbers, but we're your most loyal minority, the ones who would have stood with you through thick or thin, and you've been told you disappointed us, and are now basically ignoring those who don't say what you want to hear. You know where we stand. I refuse to buy any further Bioware, or EA products. I'm planning to consult with my investment manager at my bank to ensure that none of my money goes to EA stock. I am disappointed in the response.. Pretty much the only person who I appreciate here was the Community Manager, the Jessica one on twitter.. she didn't even speak here.. but whatever.

I'm holding the line. Angrily holding it now.

I can make a poll saying that there is mice on mars that have four legs. Does that make it true?

Your are comparing facts of nature to opinions.  By definition an accurate poll produces the truth of the break down of opinions.  No matter what the outcome.

I work in politics, so I'm not going to start arguing with you about polls. My point was that you can find a poll to support your argument or any argument for that matter, it doesn't mean that its accurate.  To base an argument solely on a poll is a straw man fallacy.

You don't know what a straw man is and I'm almost sure you don't work in "politics". We're not arguing whether or opinion is "accurate", we're arguing that it's an incredibly popular opinion and we're giving plenty of reasons to support it.

[Computim]

Jackal7713 wrote...

Atraiyu Wrynn wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

Computim wrote...

Yeah hey... vocal minority: They announced they sold 1.3 million copies of ME3 this week, already 45,000 people have voted that they don't like it, maybe 1000 more haven't voted and said so on here, using industry standard rule of 10 people for every 1 that complains that'd be 466,000 people didn't like it, or about 35% of everyone who BOUGHT the game, not finished but BOUGHT the game. The polls on the web with a massive margin of error they were 96 to 4... margin of error of even 20% still makes it 76%...

Yeah we may be a minority using the hard numbers, but we're your most loyal minority, the ones who would have stood with you through thick or thin, and you've been told you disappointed us, and are now basically ignoring those who don't say what you want to hear. You know where we stand. I refuse to buy any further Bioware, or EA products. I'm planning to consult with my investment manager at my bank to ensure that none of my money goes to EA stock. I am disappointed in the response.. Pretty much the only person who I appreciate here was the Community Manager, the Jessica one on twitter.. she didn't even speak here.. but whatever.

I'm holding the line. Angrily holding it now.

I can make a poll saying that there is mice on mars that have four legs. Does that make it true?

Your are comparing facts of nature to opinions.  By definition an accurate poll produces the truth of the break down of opinions.  No matter what the outcome.

I work in politics, so I'm not going to start arguing with you about polls. My point was that you can find a poll to support your argument or any argument for that matter, it doesn't mean that its accurate.  To base an argument solely on a poll is a straw man fallacy.

Which is why I brought in some hard numbers, and customer service statistics.. which is where I work.  I appreciate what you're saying but I'm saying that this is a very significant portion of their initial sales that DON'T like their product.  That's all I'm saying, they keep trying to minimize it, and it's just irritating me more.

[Atraiyu Wrynn]

East Coast signing off. Today was rough. Hold the line friends.

[Darkwingduck]

In regards to Stanley he doesn't have to do what he is right now. He is taking a bit of a beating on the forums and surviving remarkably well. He knows very well that he can't tell us anything and he has to be cryptic bc his geth consensus is not complete. I presume he is here as an extension of good will from Bioware to the fans on the forums so we know they hear us and they see what we're saying. Please be nice to Stanley he is a brave dude and I will take his strange geth gesture of good will with pride. We hold the line.

[Darth Garrus]

Keep this topic alive, people. Don't migrate to topics where things are heating up and will probably be closed.

Keep civil.

We won't get answers in these forums. It's posting constructive comments, and showing that there are lots of people who like ME so much that they spend so much time here, that we may get results.

Hold the line!

[ColloquialAnachron]

wicked_being wrote...

More news about us:

http://www.neoseeker...ity-in-24-hours

http://www.gamepolit...-child039s-play

Now they are quoting our mantra, this can lead to nothing but good things!


Hold the line!

[Nilofeliu]

Jackal7713 wrote...

Atraiyu Wrynn wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

Computim wrote...

Yeah hey... vocal minority: They announced they sold 1.3 million copies of ME3 this week, already 45,000 people have voted that they don't like it, maybe 1000 more haven't voted and said so on here, using industry standard rule of 10 people for every 1 that complains that'd be 466,000 people didn't like it, or about 35% of everyone who BOUGHT the game, not finished but BOUGHT the game. The polls on the web with a massive margin of error they were 96 to 4... margin of error of even 20% still makes it 76%...

Yeah we may be a minority using the hard numbers, but we're your most loyal minority, the ones who would have stood with you through thick or thin, and you've been told you disappointed us, and are now basically ignoring those who don't say what you want to hear. You know where we stand. I refuse to buy any further Bioware, or EA products. I'm planning to consult with my investment manager at my bank to ensure that none of my money goes to EA stock. I am disappointed in the response.. Pretty much the only person who I appreciate here was the Community Manager, the Jessica one on twitter.. she didn't even speak here.. but whatever.

I'm holding the line. Angrily holding it now.

I can make a poll saying that there is mice on mars that have four legs. Does that make it true?

Your are comparing facts of nature to opinions.  By definition an accurate poll produces the truth of the break down of opinions.  No matter what the outcome.

I work in politics, so I'm not going to start arguing with you about polls. My point was that you can find a poll to support your argument or any argument for that matter, it doesn't mean that its accurate.  To base an argument solely on a poll is a straw man fallacy.

You are correct. It would be a flawed logic to base such serious argument on one poll created by and for us. However, you have forgotten to mention that there are many polls around the internet, not only those we are related to, but also polls from gaming sites, blogs, you name it. And every single one of them show the majority of the players disappointed with the game. So, if we apply simple statistical analysis, we will find that these polls do reflect the majority of the player base, and the common assumption is that the game was a failure due to its ending..

If you can refute this logic, please do so.. But no more mices on mars, the cats ate them all... And btw, they had six legs...

/Salute

Modifié par Nilofeliu, 15 mars 2012 - 03:39 .

[Stygian1]

Wait so the Stan Woo guy is talking--but as with usual PR people I have NO idea what he is getting at. (not an insult, you guys just speak waayy too politcally correct for me). What was he trying to say? Can someone help? I'm at the seat of my chair.

[DifferentD17]

Mass Effect: Awakening (literally) = Halo 2 Finishing this fight.

[ViperAlvein]

g4's poll

* Not at all! - 79.7%
*
* I did. It had the closure the series needed. - 2.7%
*
* I'm not sure how to feel about the ending. - 6.5%
*
* I haven't beaten it yet!!! - 11.1%

[RussianOrc]

Harthouse wrote...

wicked_being wrote...

More news about us:

http://www.neoseeker...ity-in-24-hours

http://www.gamepolit...-child039s-play

Now they are quoting our mantra, this can lead to nothing but good things!


Hold the line!

yes but they still think we are the "minority"

[DifferentD17]

ViperAlvein wrote...

g4's poll

* Not at all! - 79.7%
*
* I did. It had the closure the series needed. - 2.7%
*
* I'm not sure how to feel about the ending. - 6.5%
*
* I haven't beaten it yet!!! - 11.1%

What was the question?

[Aeyl]

ViperAlvein wrote...

g4's poll

* Not at all! - 79.7%
*
* I did. It had the closure the series needed. - 2.7%
*
* I'm not sure how to feel about the ending. - 6.5%
*
* I haven't beaten it yet!!! - 11.1%

What happened to the poll on ME2's facebook page? I looked later today, after having voted in it, and I couldn't find it 

[Darkwingduck]

Stygian1 wrote...

Wait so the Stan Woo guy is talking--but as with usual PR people I have NO idea what he is getting at. (not an insult, you guys just speak waayy too politcally correct for me). What was he trying to say? Can someone help? I'm at the seat of my chair.

Basically that yes bioware are listening but they are listening to ALL feedback no they are not ready to comment. he also refuses to admit whether or not he likes waffles. 

[Annaleah]

Stygian1 wrote...

Wait so the Stan Woo guy is talking--but as with usual PR people I have NO idea what he is getting at. (not an insult, you guys just speak waayy too politcally correct for me). What was he trying to say? Can someone help? I'm at the seat of my chair.

I would like a translation as well... only because I'm so overtired my brain can't process anything even slightly complicated...

[QwibQwib]

true.

 twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/180135137944670208

+1 true

https://twitter.com/...128868273897472 

Modifié par QwibQwib, 15 mars 2012 - 03:42 .

[NPH11]

Stygian1 wrote...

Wait so the Stan Woo guy is talking--but as with usual PR people I have NO idea what he is getting at. (not an insult, you guys just speak waayy too politcally correct for me). What was he trying to say? Can someone help? I'm at the seat of my chair.

"Will there be an eventual response?"

"Bioware appreciates all fan feedback"

PR, plain and simple.