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[Computim]

Basically Stan is saying there's going to be an announcement (probably tomorrow, which is no surprise since they were going to announce the multiplayer DLC tomorrow anyway). I'm hoping they announce something ending related or there's going to be a massive boycott of this DLC just on principle, and I hate to see all that good effort go to waste over an easily correctable problem.

[ViperAlvein]

DifferentD17 wrote...

ViperAlvein wrote...

g4's poll

Did you like Mass Effect 3's ending?

* Not at all! - 79.7%
*
* I did. It had the closure the series needed. - 2.7%
*
* I'm not sure how to feel about the ending. - 6.5%
*
* I haven't beaten it yet!!! - 11.1%

What was the question?

Included it in the quote. sorry forgot to put i in before, thanks for bringing it to my attention

[recentio]

Jackal7713 wrote...

Computim wrote...

Yeah hey... vocal minority: They announced they sold 1.3 million copies of ME3 this week, already 45,000 people have voted that they don't like it, maybe 1000 more haven't voted and said so on here, using industry standard rule of 10 people for every 1 that complains that'd be 466,000 people didn't like it, or about 35% of everyone who BOUGHT the game, not finished but BOUGHT the game. The polls on the web with a massive margin of error they were 96 to 4... margin of error of even 20% still makes it 76%...

Yeah we may be a minority using the hard numbers, but we're your most loyal minority, the ones who would have stood with you through thick or thin, and you've been told you disappointed us, and are now basically ignoring those who don't say what you want to hear. You know where we stand. I refuse to buy any further Bioware, or EA products. I'm planning to consult with my investment manager at my bank to ensure that none of my money goes to EA stock. I am disappointed in the response.. Pretty much the only person who I appreciate here was the Community Manager, the Jessica one on twitter.. she didn't even speak here.. but whatever.

I'm holding the line. Angrily holding it now.

I can make a poll saying that there is mice on mars that have four legs. Does that make it true?

You're comparing voting on a scientifically testable hypothesis to voting on a qualitative human judgement. It doesn't make sense to base the acceptance or rejection of an objective, testable, quantitative hypothesis on a sampling of subjective opinions that bear no causal relation to the assertion made by the hypothesis.

However, it does make sense to base the acceptance or rejection of a qualitative hypothesis (eg. "Many people do not like the ending of Mass Effect 3") on a direct sampling of the very population that the hypothesis makes an assertion about.

[baronkohinar]

Looks like everyone smells blood now that someone from BioWare is actually responding to us and are hopping on the other forum to beat up on Woo. Luckily, he appears to be a class act and cites our behavior positively:

Stanley Woo wrote...

I've been abused on the forum before. This isn't even close to it. The
vast majority of folks here have been very reasonable and have asked
good questions. It's this kind of environment that attracts developers
to participate in discussions, so the more threads the community creates
that are as mature and civil as this one is, the more likely it is that
developers (and jerks like me and John Epler) will want to come chat.

See what happens when we keep things civil? Hold the line!

[unclee]

Reminder: Let's make sure to keep the Bioware bashing to a minimum. Regardless of what Mr. Woo says, or doesn't say, let's make sure not to attack him. Let's make sure to stay civil and cool about everything!

[Darkwingduck]

Right so Ontario signing off! Continue holding the line! If the bioware geth reach a consensus while I'm away make sure to celebrate for me! A woo-hoo will suffice.

[DifferentD17]

ViperAlvein wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

ViperAlvein wrote...

g4's poll

Did you like Mass Effect 3's ending?

* Not at all! - 79.7%
*
* I did. It had the closure the series needed. - 2.7%
*
* I'm not sure how to feel about the ending. - 6.5%
*
* I haven't beaten it yet!!! - 11.1%

What was the question?

Included it in the quote. sorry forgot to put i in before, thanks for bringing it to my attention

 No problem, thanks for the update.

[Tarnation007]

The one comment I didn't like of Stanley's is how he dismissed us as a minority because our poll (with last time I checked had over 41,000 votes I think) isn't valid enough for them.

[TamiBx]

baronkohinar wrote...

Looks like everyone smells blood now that someone from BioWare is actually responding to us and are hopping on the other forum to beat up on Woo. Luckily, he appears to be a class act and cites our behavior positively:

Stanley Woo wrote...

I've been abused on the forum before. This isn't even close to it. The
vast majority of folks here have been very reasonable and have asked
good questions. It's this kind of environment that attracts developers
to participate in discussions, so the more threads the community creates
that are as mature and civil as this one is, the more likely it is that
developers (and jerks like me and John Epler) will want to come chat.

See what happens when we keep things civil? Hold the line!

I was about to post that here :happy:
Let's keep it civil, and remember: insulting Bioware/EA won't get us anywhere. 

[ashley_actually]

Darkwingduck wrote...

Right so Ontario signing off! Continue holding the line! If the bioware geth reach a consensus while I'm away make sure to celebrate for me! A woo-hoo will suffice.

Southern Ontario holding the line for now. Not tired yet. 

[Darkwingduck]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Vijay41086 wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

Idiotking wrote...

Mr. Woo, I just ask that you keep in mind the polls that are floating around this site. They show that it really is a majority of people who do not like the endings.

Thank you, but while they may be an indication of something, they are based on a self-selecting sample of a specific minority of our total player base. Specifically, the ones who feel the strongest about the situation and seek out ways to make their displeasure known. So yes, they are useful in gauging how our community feels, but no, not necessarily as "proof" of how the general public feels.

Exactly when it comes to volultary polls, only those with a strong opinion(Usually a strong negative opinion) will respond so they aren't a good indicator of how your population feels. Any basic stat class will tell you this.

But once again, that doesn't mean their opinions will be ignored or dismissed out of hand. They are all still community members and have still given their feedback. Like if you don't believe in ghosts, even if 10,000 people tell you there's a ghost in the closet, you'll still be skeptical of a ghost, but you'll likely figure that something is up to cause so many people to beleive it's a ghost. Maybe it's really nothing, maybe it's Old Man Jenkins in a ghost costume, maybe a ghost really does exist.

But all that data still has to figure in your decision-making in some form, however small.

Listen to mr.woo and stop arguing about polls.

[Neroteyen]

Night all. Gotta power down and get some shut eye. Hold the line

[Stygian1]

QwibQwib wrote...

true.

 twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/180135137944670208

+1 true

https://twitter.com/...128868273897472 

 

That first answer made me want to punch a baby... I liked Jessica, actually I still like her, but really that answer is such a cop out. 


@NPH11, thank you lol 

[Major Swift]

unclee wrote...

Reminder: Let's make sure to keep the Bioware bashing to a minimum. Regardless of what Mr. Woo says, or doesn't say, let's make sure not to attack him. Let's make sure to stay civil and cool about everything!

^ this, keep up the paragon atmosphere everyone!

[Mavaras]

Annaleah wrote...

Stygian1 wrote...

Wait so the Stan Woo guy is talking--but as with usual PR people I have NO idea what he is getting at. (not an insult, you guys just speak waayy too politcally correct for me). What was he trying to say? Can someone help? I'm at the seat of my chair.

I would like a translation as well... only because I'm so overtired my brain can't process anything even slightly complicated...

He basically stated common sense facts we already know. Nothing he said was really damning or promising, just that Bioware functions as a business. One could make speculations from his comment as to what kind of business Bioware is, but that would be subjective.

[Nilofeliu]

baronkohinar wrote...

Looks like everyone smells blood now that someone from BioWare is actually responding to us and are hopping on the other forum to beat up on Woo. Luckily, he appears to be a class act and cites our behavior positively:

Stanley Woo wrote...

I've been abused on the forum before. This isn't even close to it. The
vast majority of folks here have been very reasonable and have asked
good questions. It's this kind of environment that attracts developers
to participate in discussions, so the more threads the community creates
that are as mature and civil as this one is, the more likely it is that
developers (and jerks like me and John Epler) will want to come chat.

See what happens when we keep things civil? Hold the line!

The problem is that he is talking, but he isn't saying anything at all.

Basically he is just trying to con the gamers with some trolling, and refusing to answer the real questions under the flag "you feedback is important to us", and nothing else..

Still holding the line people...

[Aeyl]

Computim wrote...

Basically Stan is saying there's going to be an announcement (probably tomorrow, which is no surprise since they were going to announce the multiplayer DLC tomorrow anyway). I'm hoping they announce something ending related or there's going to be a massive boycott of this DLC just on principle, and I hate to see all that good effort go to waste over an easily correctable problem.

It'd be very nice if there was an announcement that isn't terribly vague tomorrow. That would be very nice

[wicked_being]

Can anyone here translate Japanese to English? There's a very active discussion in 2ch (Japan's largest forum) about ME3.

[xAmilli0n]

Two interesting tweets

twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/180135844861067264

twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/180137101172555776


Not sure what to think.  She does seems to very much like the idea of theories and interpretation.

[Nathos]

wicked_being wrote...

Can anyone here translate Japanese to English? There's a very active discussion in 2ch (Japan's largest forum) about ME3.

Have you tried google translator?

[Digifi]

Ok, so reading on another thread where your squadmates on the final mission are dead at your feet after Harby's beam if your EMS isn't high enough. My question is if anybody has a playthrough like that and noticed if those particular squadies get off of the Normandy? Would just be the icing on the plothole cake.

[QwibQwib]

Stygian1 wrote...

QwibQwib wrote...

true.

 twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/180135137944670208

+1 true

https://twitter.com/...128868273897472 

 

That first answer made me want to punch a baby... I liked Jessica, actually I still like her, but really that answer is such a cop out. 


@NPH11, thank you lol 

Get away from my non-existent baby! 

[Agarcn]

wicked_being wrote...

Can anyone here translate Japanese to English? There's a very active discussion in 2ch (Japan's largest forum) about ME3.

try using google chrome to translate the page.

[Digifi]

Aeyl wrote...

Computim wrote...

Basically Stan is saying there's going to be an announcement (probably tomorrow, which is no surprise since they were going to announce the multiplayer DLC tomorrow anyway). I'm hoping they announce something ending related or there's going to be a massive boycott of this DLC just on principle, and I hate to see all that good effort go to waste over an easily correctable problem.

It'd be very nice if there was an announcement that isn't terribly vague tomorrow. That would be very nice

I'll prepare for incomprehensibly vague and then terribly vague will be a pleasant surprise...

[ColloquialAnachron]

Good night for tonight folks. Keep up the good polite fight, someone PM me if one more journalist labels us as entitled whiners, and as always, as ever, hold the line!