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#3026
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JeffZero wrote...
Actually, Square Enix's Final Fantasy XIII-2 is doing exactly that.

No, they're probably making a third game. =]

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Nyaore wrote...

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

Nyaore wrote...

Man this thread is going fast. Popcorn anyone?


Popcorn meh, i prefer chips :D

I have those too. The best way to handle a potential **** storm is to bring lots of snacks. :P

Totally :happy:

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Jake505 wrote...

Well i haven't read any of the leaked script. Why you ask? Can't find any of it, so in the off chance some one has it PM a copy or something or a link.

With that said, I am not worried about the endings. Some people say there is only 6 others say there is a way to get a 7th. As with the other ME's I will have 2 or 3 play through' s with my imports and 1 or 2 from a fresh new Shep. We are all going to to DLC's and lets face it if the all the endings are crap then we all with voice this and they will give us a DLC with better endings.

Weather in death or by living my Shep's saves the galaxy as a whole then all of my Shep's and his/her crews have done there jobs. Life goes on both in the ME universe and in the real universe

I just hope there is at least 50 + hours of game play in the base game with some where around 60 to 70 total hours with all the DLC's

If this is my/our last Hur-Ra in the ME then lets go out with a bang instead of the wimpper that I keep reading here!


Really?  I didn't read any spoilers either, but all these speculations and talks about the suppose endings are really starting to get to me.  It's almost....depressing Posted Image

I want to go out guns a blazing, not be sent a drift with no one beside me!   

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thing is i understand the endings in a way... i just dont understand why you would finish a game series like this with no obvious happy ending, or no way to achieve one.

or is that the point?

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MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

So, Bioware's games are like a Choose Your Own Adventure novel.

Except your choices all lead to you falling into a pit and breaking your legs.


A pit of vipers.

But hey! You saved some people outside of the pit, who promptly don't help you!

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I still say we can just rebuild all the tech we lost. Will it take time? Yes, but I think that the universe is far from boned. (Assuming that these endings are the real ones.)

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Rdubs wrote...

You all HAVE to read this, just saw it on google news.

www.gamezone.com/products/mass-effect-3/news/mass-effect-3-boasts-many-different-endings

"There a risks involved in how you get there or how you completely not get
there," Gamble explained. "As in the previous games, you’ll make a decision and
you’ll see the outcome and there are huge risks to all of those decisions.
It’s
not cut and dry."
"There are many different endings," he added. "We wouldn’t do it any other
way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and
then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets?
But I can’t say any
more than that…"

Based on all the discussion it would seem he was able to overcome the problem of not being able to give everyone the same ending.


I love marketing.

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panamakira wrote...

Rdubs wrote...

You all HAVE to read this, just saw it on google news.

www.gamezone.com/products/mass-effect-3/news/mass-effect-3-boasts-many-different-endings

"There a risks involved in how you get there or how you completely not get
there," Gamble explained. "As in the previous games, you’ll make a decision and
you’ll see the outcome and there are huge risks to all of those decisions.
It’s
not cut and dry."
"There are many different endings," he added. "We wouldn’t do it any other
way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and
then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets?
But I can’t say any
more than that…"

Based on all the discussion it would seem he was able to overcome the problem of not being able to give everyone the same ending.


What does this mean? Do we get variations in the ending? Is there an ending where everyone reunites? I'm not going to be able to go through all endings next week because I'm going to want to do every side mission or get every resource because I'll be scared to not be prepared when the final battle comes......Does it even matter if all endings are tragic though?


That's a personal-analysis sort of question with a personal-analysis kind of answer.

But there's no way in hell they altered the endings from one week ago. Game went gold earlier this month.

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Killjoy Cutter wrote...

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marstor05 wrote...

didnt one of the writers leave?


Drew left.


I wouldn't blame him.


Drew left after ME1 and Mac Walters took over the game writing for ME2 and ME3. ME2 & ME3 also have a different art director.

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Badpie wrote...

marstor05 wrote...

so if there is no true ending - and someone is quoted as suggesting you hang on to your game saves - does this mean that ME3 is going to be followed by something which might actually sort this mess out?


If it is that's a blatant exploitation to get more money.  You can't sell someone a "finished" game and then a few months later say "lol just kidding, you get the real ending to this $60 game if you give us $20 more."


Haha, so what do they plan to do? Mass Effect: Stone Age? ****, that's what a lot of colonies will be reduced to. If they do try and sell the fix to this mess then we'll know that Bioware is truly dead.

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Dilos01 wrote...

Jake505 wrote...

Well i haven't read any of the leaked script. Why you ask? Can't find any of it, so in the off chance some one has it PM a copy or something or a link.

With that said, I am not worried about the endings. Some people say there is only 6 others say there is a way to get a 7th. As with the other ME's I will have 2 or 3 play through' s with my imports and 1 or 2 from a fresh new Shep. We are all going to to DLC's and lets face it if the all the endings are crap then we all with voice this and they will give us a DLC with better endings.

Weather in death or by living my Shep's saves the galaxy as a whole then all of my Shep's and his/her crews have done there jobs. Life goes on both in the ME universe and in the real universe

I just hope there is at least 50 + hours of game play in the base game with some where around 60 to 70 total hours with all the DLC's

If this is my/our last Hur-Ra in the ME then lets go out with a bang instead of the wimpper that I keep reading here!


Really?  I didn't read any spoilers either, but all these speculations and talks about the suppose endings are really starting to get to me.  It's almost....depressing Posted Image

I want to go out guns a blazing, not be sent a drift with no one beside me!   


Yeah, literally anything would be better than what we have now.

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DiegoProgMetal wrote...

Okay, I'm okay with the "ultimate sacrifice". Just give my Shepard and his crew a chance to die together. I don't know, throwing the Normandy against the ultimate reaper or something... I don't care how. Just let me see them telling Shepard, looking at his eyes: "It was an honour to fight at your side Commander!", or the opposite, Shepard telling everyone through the "intercom" that it was an honour to have them by his side. Them Joker throws the Normandy at whatever... This would be bittersweet. The other endings are just bitter, with no sweet.


MyShep: "I intend to kick their asses and live to tell"
Joker: "I'm glad you're in command here, not that suicidal freak!"

(J/K I'd be ok with that too)

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JeffZero wrote...

Tietj wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

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These are all just variations on "the galaxy is ****ed and most major characters are doomed no matter what."

I'm actually not seeing anything along the lines of "the galaxy is ****ed," so far. Just that all the heroes die. Sound pretty *** **** heroic to me.


Hell, that much isn't even true.

Just because it's pretty damn implausible that the Normandy crew survived doesn't mean that wasn't what happened. And I'm not just spouting headcanon crap over here. The post-credits epilogue scene between the old man and his grandson is on the damn world the Normandy crashed onto. It's crystal-frelling-clear even just through reading it that the implication is they're descendants of the Normandy team.

Now, say what you will regarding Garrus and Tali's odds, of course.

Not only that, but nothing I have seen indicates that the world the Normandy crashes on is even deserted.  That's just something that seems to have become a meme here as things spiral out of control, like a game of Telephone.


Well, I've seen a picture of the world. No, I won't re-upload it -- I didn't upload it in the first place and it's long since been taken down. I won't get involved in legal issues like that, no sir. But I saw it with my own two eyes, and... it looks pretty deserted, I'd say.

I mean, you never know. But...

I guess... there are lots of places on Earth that would make the planet seem deserted if you crash landed there.  But it's possible it's deserted.  To me, that's the worst part of the ending, if it's true; everything else I can live with.  I suppose you could say the crew knew the stakes, but... it seems wrong somehow that it's the only scenario available.

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Nyaore wrote...

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

Nyaore wrote...

Man this thread is going fast. Popcorn anyone?


Popcorn meh, i prefer chips :D

I have those too. The best way to handle a potential **** storm is to bring lots of snacks. :P


Cupcakes, don't forget the cupcakes! 

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Rakia Time wrote...

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

RazorrX wrote...

I am getting a bad DA2 feeling now. They started putting up damage control posts, and now have installed the anti flame shield. Man what happened to Bioware?


EA happened :huh:


so EA would want to murder a franchise that makes them money? i doubt that



I take it you're not a C&C fan.

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SpiderFan1217 wrote...

I still say we can just rebuild all the tech we lost. Will it take time? Yes, but I think that the universe is far from boned. (Assuming that these endings are the real ones.)


That is indeed the implication. I believe the 'Destroy' endings feature the destruction of much more technology than just the Relays, though, so it's a matter of being blasted back into the eras of Jump Zero or getting shot all the way back to a more present-day sort of scenario.

Depending on how much I'm OK with the endings once I see them with mine own two eyes and all that, if I continue to replay the trilogy going forward Kaidan's talks about Jump Zero are going to prove all the more interesting to me, I guess.

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So the mass relays are screwed no matter what?

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I mean...SERIOUSLY BIOWARE!? Great, now I get to sit and listen to a bunch of Master Chief fanboys drone on and on about how Master Chief is the greatest and how nobody, not even Shepard could defeat him because he DIED. Its going to be just like Halo Reach all over a-****ing-gain, listen to a bunch of MCtards drone on about how Master Chief is superior to mine and their personalized Shepards and Noble Sixes which is "them" in the virtual world, and a new round of Video Game companies promoting self-pity and hatred...

Gotta love 'em. (Sarcasm)

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ArkkAngel007 wrote...

Not just this thread. Had some heavy fighting in the DLC thread as well. But yeah we can talk and argue as much as we want, just as long as we aren't fighting or threatening people, forum member or otherwise.


pretty much this.  ive got my problems with the DLC and such, but hopefully ive come off as at least civil.  there is a difference between venting frustration and being a jerk. 

back on topic though, as long as the endings make sense, and they are actually different and not just a rehash of the same thing, ill be ok with there being a 'not so happy ending'.

but thats just me.  some of my favorite works are:

pay it forward
24
prison break

none of which end on a positive note.

Modifié par wrdnshprd, 29 février 2012 - 07:24 .


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Sowtaaw wrote...

So the mass relays are screwed no matter what?


Yes.

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King (Bioware) is dead, all hail new king(CD projekt)!

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Sowtaaw wrote...

So the mass relays are screwed no matter what?


Pretty much, do whatever you want... but the relays aer screwed.

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Just look at all the dead EA studios; I'm worried Bioware's gonna be there soon enough:

Original HQ in San Mateo, California, moved to Redwood City in 1998.
Origin Systems in Austin, Texas founded in 1983, acquired in 1992, closed in 2004.
Bullfrog Productions in Surrey, England, founded in 1987, acquired in 1995, merged with EA UK and effectively closed in 2001.
EA Baltimore in Baltimore, Maryland, established in 1996 as part of Origin, closed in 2000
EA Seattle in Seattle, Washington, founded in 1982 as Manley & Associates, acquired January 29, 1996, closed in 2002
Maxis in Walnut Creek, California, founded in 1987, acquired in June 1997, folded into Redwood Shores in 2004
Westwood Studios in Las Vegas, Nevada, founded in 1987, acquired from Virgin Interactive Entertainment in August 1998, merged into EA Los Angeles in 2003.
EA Pacific (known for a time as Westwood Pacific) in Irvine, California, formerly part of Virgin Interactive, acquired with Westwood in 1998, closed in 2003
Kesmai (known also as GameStorm), founded in 1981, acquired in 1999, closed in 2001.
DICE Canada in London, Ontario, started in 1998, acquired DICE fully October 2, 2006; closed DICE Canada studio hours later.
EA Japan in Tokyo, Japan, closed due to consolidation; moved under EA Partners model
EA UK in Chertsey, United Kingdom, moved to EA UK in Guildford
EA Chicago in Hoffman Estates, Illinois, founded in 1990 as NuFX, acquired in 2004, closed November 6, 2007.
Pandemic Studios in Los Angeles, California and Brisbane, Queensland, Australia, founded in 1998, acquired October 2007 from Elevation Partners, closed November 17, 2009.
Bright Light, in Guildford, Surrey, formerly EA UK, closed in 2011.

#3049
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JeffZero wrote...

panamakira wrote...

Rdubs wrote...

You all HAVE to read this, just saw it on google news.

www.gamezone.com/products/mass-effect-3/news/mass-effect-3-boasts-many-different-endings

"There a risks involved in how you get there or how you completely not get
there," Gamble explained. "As in the previous games, you’ll make a decision and
you’ll see the outcome and there are huge risks to all of those decisions.
It’s
not cut and dry."
"There are many different endings," he added. "We wouldn’t do it any other
way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and
then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets?
But I can’t say any
more than that…"

Based on all the discussion it would seem he was able to overcome the problem of not being able to give everyone the same ending.


What does this mean? Do we get variations in the ending? Is there an ending where everyone reunites? I'm not going to be able to go through all endings next week because I'm going to want to do every side mission or get every resource because I'll be scared to not be prepared when the final battle comes......Does it even matter if all endings are tragic though?


That's a personal-analysis sort of question with a personal-analysis kind of answer.

But there's no way in hell they altered the endings from one week ago. Game went gold earlier this month.


He might be talking about a patch or dlc to change the endings, but the only ones in game at least in the leaked game are the ones we already know about.

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Rdubs wrote...

You all HAVE to read this, just saw it on google news.

www.gamezone.com/products/mass-effect-3/news/mass-effect-3-boasts-many-different-endings

"There a risks involved in how you get there or how you completely not get
there," Gamble explained. "As in the previous games, you’ll make a decision and
you’ll see the outcome and there are huge risks to all of those decisions.
It’s
not cut and dry."
"There are many different endings," he added. "We wouldn’t do it any other
way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and
then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets?
But I can’t say any
more than that…"

Based on all the discussion it would seem he was able to overcome the problem of not being able to give everyone the same ending.


And then you go to the Citadel and choose, right? 

So what about Mass Effect 1 and 2 then?