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[DragonRageGT]

the_one_54321 wrote...

DragonRageGT wrote...
True Heroes come back home alive and f*** their wives! (Or husbands, whatever)

The Chuck Noris stuff is entertaining because it's mostly funny and unrealistic. Not because it's heroic.

John McClain's wife leaves him after the second movie.

Indeed it is. But honestly, I don't play games for realistic. And I really doubt that in 2200 Men will have solved anything on this planet, except perhaps how to kill more people and faster without a nuclear holocaust. Much less to travel at FTL speed and deserve any attention of any evolved life form that may really exist out there.

[tasca1180]

Nyaore wrote...

tasca1180 wrote...

Nyaore wrote...

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

Nyaore wrote...

Man this thread is going fast. Popcorn anyone?

Popcorn meh, i prefer chips 

I have those too. The best way to handle a potential **** storm is to bring lots of snacks. 

Cupcakes, don't forget the cupcakes! 

Chocolate or vanilla? 

Both, obviously! 

[gogman25]

Nilbog79 wrote...

I'm probably alone on this, but I think the ending makes sense. After setting the Reapers up as being vastly more powerful than all other races combined, any kind of happy end would have been completely ridiculous. So, props to Bioware for taking their own lore seriously and not coming up with some silly deus ex machina.
It's not so impressive though that there is only one ending. There should have been at least a 'you lose'-type ending where the Reapers win and the cycle of destruction continues.

I wasn't even asking for a happy ending, just one where my choices matter.

[Shatterhand1701]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Allworkandlowpay wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...
So what if Liara has a SB base on the SR 2 now . when at the end the SR 2 gets destroyed in a crash landing on a remote planet and all on it will eventually die . what you do in the game is pointless when its all but preparing to die 

You guys are depressing. So nihilistic. It's not about the end, it's about getting there. We all knew this was Shepard and crews final journey, we knew they had impossible odds. We knew we wouldn't likely see any of them, or their ship, again.

No, we did not. We expected our choices to have meaning.

Funny you should mention that.  Many people wish that their choices in life would have meaning, yet they often don't.  Sometimes things unfold contrary to how you want them to no matter what decisions you make, and you just have to compensate for those events and live with them.  Does it suck?  You bet your backside it does, but it happens.

Yes, it'd be a great feeling to see a happy ending for Shepard and his allies, but with the stakes being as high as they are this time around, it certainly has to be acknowledged that the preservation of Earth and the rest of the galaxy may come with a terrible cost.  In the end, you may believe you made all the right choices, gathered the allies you needed, got all the weapons you needed...but the battle had to end with a drastic, shocking choice that would change everything.  It's certainly not out of the realm of possibility.

And please, don't waste energy telling me "this is a video game, it's not supposed to reflect real life".   That argument has about as much durability as a kleenex in a monsoon.  Bioware's games have been about consequences of actions taken, good or bad.  This is just the biggest example yet.  

[Tietj]

You know, since accidentally reading a spoiler a couple days ago I haven't played through the demo once, and I stopped playing through my replay of ME2. And I've been kind of complaining on here, a bit, mitigating my criticism a little bit because of my faith in Bioware (I even liked DA2). But I couldn't bear to play through the demo again until just now.

And you know what? It's not a problem at all. Shepard is willing to die for the galaxy, and honestly the endings as leaked seem like they have the potential to be pretty cool, even beautiful in a sad, somewhat-out-of-character-for-Mass-Effect sort of way. I'm still a bit bummed about the Normandy and her crew, but they all knew the stakes as well, and the info on what ends up happening to them is vague and seems to be open to interpretation. So, is it disappointing that there's really only minute variations when it comes to the fate of our favorite characters? Yes, yes, and yes. But let's wait until we see the endings themselves before passing too much judgment.

[Kimosabe]

DiegoProgMetal wrote...

Okay, I'm okay with the "ultimate sacrifice". Just give my Shepard and his crew a chance to die together. I don't know, throwing the Normandy against the ultimate reaper or something... I don't care how. Just let me see them telling Shepard, looking at his eyes: "It was an honour to fight at your side Commander!", or the opposite, Shepard telling everyone through the "intercom" that it was an honour to have them by his side. Them Joker throws the Normandy at whatever... This would be bittersweet. The other endings are just bitter, with no sweet.

This would be a good end to the series. I always found it very likely that a lot of main characters would die in 3 but atleast make it an memorable end with the entire crew together.

I got my chips and my drinks long ago so that I can sit back and watch this topic expand^_^

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

Also, I find people arguing for the lack of a "happy" as a more realistic approach funny.

Last I checked I banged a species that I'm pretty sure doesn't share reproductive compatibility to a human. In fact, it was probably like fitting a square block into a round hole, but hey, it was allowed so I did it. With gusto.

[JeffZero]

Nilbog79 wrote...

I'm probably alone on this, but I think the ending makes sense. After setting the Reapers up as being vastly more powerful than all other races combined, any kind of happy end would have been completely ridiculous. So, props to Bioware for taking their own lore seriously and not coming up with some silly deus ex machina.
It's not so impressive though that there is only one ending. There should have been at least a 'you lose'-type ending where the Reapers win and the cycle of destruction continues.

There are three core endings; one of which has two separate variations and another has three. The problem being that much of the endings is shared regardless. But the fate of the galaxy's inhabitants can definitely vary pretty greatly depending on which path you've chosen, that's unquestionable I think.

[Rdubs]

Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Rdubs wrote...

You all HAVE to read this, just saw it on google news.

www.gamezone.com/products/mass-effect-3/news/mass-effect-3-boasts-many-different-endings

"There a risks involved in how you get there or how you completely not get
there," Gamble explained. "As in the previous games, you’ll make a decision and
you’ll see the outcome and there are huge risks to all of those decisions. It’s
not cut and dry."
"There are many different endings," he added. "We wouldn’t do it any other
way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and
then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t say any
more than that…"

Based on all the discussion it would seem he was able to overcome the problem of not being able to give everyone the same ending.

...Yeah, I kinda doubt the whole stretch of ending cinematics were re-done in the few days since the guy who got the space launch copy beat the game though.

bs
its those endings and thats all. bw are just trying to pretty it up - as it were

Exactly.  Sorry if I wasn't being clear, I was trying to be cute with the double negative.  What I was trying to say is if Gamble didn't think they could give everyone the same ending, based on what's being discussed in this forum it seems they figured out a way to give everyone the same ending.
If nothing else this whole thing will do serious damage to Bioware's reputation.  More specifically, whenever they release a PR statement in the future bragging about a gaming feature or especially in efforts to do damage control, they won't have nearly the credibility they once had.  The good news is maybe it will cut down on the number of forum posts where "but Casey said", "but Chris said", and "but Bioware said" is used to counter some kind of leaked bad news.

[sezneg]

gogman25 wrote...

Nilbog79 wrote...

I'm probably alone on this, but I think the ending makes sense. After setting the Reapers up as being vastly more powerful than all other races combined, any kind of happy end would have been completely ridiculous. So, props to Bioware for taking their own lore seriously and not coming up with some silly deus ex machina.
It's not so impressive though that there is only one ending. There should have been at least a 'you lose'-type ending where the Reapers win and the cycle of destruction continues.

I wasn't even asking for a happy ending, just one where my choices matter.

But you can TOTALLY chose if the relays are destroyed in a blue, green OR red explosion!

#WhosTheBossFinalEpisode

[YvetteAngel]

gogman25 wrote...

Nilbog79 wrote...

I'm probably alone on this, but I think the ending makes sense. After setting the Reapers up as being vastly more powerful than all other races combined, any kind of happy end would have been completely ridiculous. So, props to Bioware for taking their own lore seriously and not coming up with some silly deus ex machina.
It's not so impressive though that there is only one ending. There should have been at least a 'you lose'-type ending where the Reapers win and the cycle of destruction continues.

I wasn't even asking for a happy ending, just one where my choices matter.

THIS

[llandwynwyn]

DragonRageGT wrote...


And that would really make Chris' post about "playing a default Shepard before importing your own" a very ridiculous suggestion.

hmm Now it makes sense.
Of course playing a new Shepard is better first, you won't have the shock of seeing old familiar faces on inbreed Planet because they would be dead on defaultShep. <_<

[Dariustwinblade]

The PC version is actually leaked its in TPB right now. The rumors will be prooven true!!!!!!!!!!!!!



At this point I can only hope for a Broken Steel like DLC.

[Unit-Alpha]

Shatterhand1701 wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Allworkandlowpay wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...
So what if Liara has a SB base on the SR 2 now . when at the end the SR 2 gets destroyed in a crash landing on a remote planet and all on it will eventually die . what you do in the game is pointless when its all but preparing to die 

You guys are depressing. So nihilistic. It's not about the end, it's about getting there. We all knew this was Shepard and crews final journey, we knew they had impossible odds. We knew we wouldn't likely see any of them, or their ship, again.

No, we did not. We expected our choices to have meaning.

Funny you should mention that.  Many people wish that their choices in life would have meaning, yet they often don't.  Sometimes things unfold contrary to how you want them to no matter what decisions you make, and you just have to compensate for those events and live with them.  Does it suck?  You bet your backside it does, but it happens.

Yes, it'd be a great feeling to see a happy ending for Shepard and his allies, but with the stakes being as high as they are this time around, it certainly has to be acknowledged that the preservation of Earth and the rest of the galaxy may come with a terrible cost.  In the end, you may believe you made all the right choices, gathered the allies you needed, got all the weapons you needed...but the battle had to end with a drastic, shocking choice that would change everything.  It's certainly not out of the realm of possibility.

And please, don't waste energy telling me "this is a video game, it's not supposed to reflect real life".   That argument has about as much durability as a kleenex in a monsoon.  Bioware's games have been about consequences of actions taken, good or bad.  This is just the biggest example yet.  

Given your games list, I'm pretty sure I know Bioware better than you. Fine, they are about consequences... so tell me how our actions from ME1 or ME2 have consequences in the ending?

[JeffZero]

Tietj wrote...

You know, since accidentally reading a spoiler a couple days ago I haven't played through the demo once, and I stopped playing through my replay of ME2. And I've been kind of complaining on here, a bit, mitigating my criticism a little bit because of my faith in Bioware (I even liked DA2). But I couldn't bear to play through the demo again until just now.

And you know what? It's not a problem at all. Shepard is willing to die for the galaxy, and honestly the endings as leaked seem like they have the potential to be pretty cool, even beautiful in a sad, somewhat-out-of-character-for-Mass-Effect sort of way. I'm still a bit bummed about the Normandy and her crew, but they all knew the stakes as well, and the info on what ends up happening to them is vague and seems to be open to interpretation. So, is it disappointing that there's really only minute variations when it comes to the fate of our favorite characters? Yes, yes, and yes. But let's wait until we see the endings themselves before passing too much judgment.

Your explanation just now closely mirror's the space launch guy's, actually. He thought the endings were beautiful, he really did.

[Favourite store on the CitadeI]

Rdubs wrote...

Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Rdubs wrote...

You all HAVE to read this, just saw it on google news.

www.gamezone.com/products/mass-effect-3/news/mass-effect-3-boasts-many-different-endings

"There a risks involved in how you get there or how you completely not get
there," Gamble explained. "As in the previous games, you’ll make a decision and
you’ll see the outcome and there are huge risks to all of those decisions. It’s
not cut and dry."
"There are many different endings," he added. "We wouldn’t do it any other
way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and
then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t say any
more than that…"

Based on all the discussion it would seem he was able to overcome the problem of not being able to give everyone the same ending.

...Yeah, I kinda doubt the whole stretch of ending cinematics were re-done in the few days since the guy who got the space launch copy beat the game though.

bs
its those endings and thats all. bw are just trying to pretty it up - as it were

Exactly.  Sorry if I wasn't being clear, I was trying to be cute with the double negative.  What I was trying to say is if Gamble didn't think they could give everyone the same ending, based on what's being discussed in this forum it seems they figured out a way to give everyone the same ending.
If nothing else this whole thing will do serious damage to Bioware's reputation.  More specifically, whenever they release a PR statement in the future bragging about a gaming feature or especially in efforts to do damage control, they won't have nearly the credibility they once had.  The good news is maybe it will cut down on the number of forum posts where "but Casey said", "but Chris said", and "but Bioware said" is used to counter some kind of leaked bad news.

Oh god i wasn't getting at you! I was getting at the write... wait, i cant say that, because it would be a "personal attack" 

[JeffZero]

Darius, I recommend deleting that post before you're banned.

[Chromes]

There was an interesting idea on another forum: that this is some kind of protection from pirates. Like at 6th march while activating the bought copy you'll download some number of files containing additional endings/video etc.
Though it doesn't explain the leaked info of Space Edition.

[GRISHASAUR]

JeffZero wrote...

GRISHASAUR wrote...

so thier is no way to get a happy ending at all no matter what you do. that makes no sence

Welcome aboard, Skipper.

so what  are  7 endings?  i heard that there still might be a happy ending where the reapers are dead and the relays are not gone please let that be ture

[Pathero]

Fun fact: You ain't entitled to anything regarding the ending. Look at this and conceptualize in your mind Game of Thrones et al. Nobody is safe from getting deaded. I'll make the choices I want not because I want the 'best' ending but because they are the choices I made.
You have made the choice, you must take the medicine. I fully support whatever comes. Bad or good I made the choices not because I wanted sunshine and roses but because morally I felt they were right. If you made the choices because you wanted everything to be okay and now feel cheated because there is a chance that it won't, well tough. Life ain't roses.

[zestyshade]

So what exactly is wrong with destroyed Mass Relays? Seems only fitting for the technology that helped propagate the Reaper dominion would go the way of Reapers.

[Unit-Alpha]

GRISHASAUR wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

GRISHASAUR wrote...

so thier is no way to get a happy ending at all no matter what you do. that makes no sence

Welcome aboard, Skipper.

so what  are  7 endings?  i heard that there still might be a happy ending where the reapers are dead and the relays are not gone please let that be ture

Nope, there isn't.

[luzburg]

gogman25 wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

So... everyone here will only be happy if they get the kind of ending that they envisioned?

No one here believes that an ending can be good when it's not what you expected?

Really?

No, everyone will be satisfied when you recieve an ending within 5000 miles of what you wanted and when your choices, your preparations and your effort all mean absolutely nothing. /sarcasm
In the end, your whole preparation and readiness level thing is completely useless, and changes and events in the story that make literally -NO- sense.

i agree it makes no sence so no mater what you can just run trugh the game and get the same endings as one that spent 40+ hrs to try to get a perfect ending

[zestyshade]

Pathero wrote...

Fun fact: You ain't entitled to anything regarding the ending. Look at this and conceptualize in your mind Game of Thrones et al. Nobody is safe from getting deaded. I'll make the choices I want not because I want the 'best' ending but because they are the choices I made.
You have made the choice, you must take the medicine. I fully support whatever comes. Bad or good I made the choices not because I wanted sunshine and roses but because morally I felt they were right. If you made the choices because you wanted everything to be okay and now feel cheated because there is a chance that it won't, well tough. Life ain't roses.

That series is amazing! I love the author with balls to kill major characters left and right

[Favourite store on the CitadeI]

I really expected more variation in these endings. I think I have seen more variation in my underwear draw