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[Nyctyris]

rizengrad wrote...

Nyctyris wrote...

any word from asia??

Japan. Not Asia.

Apologies. I used  to live in Hong Kong - we got our games around the time Japan did or a bit later. Dunno if that's still the case, but I was assuming Korea + HK are on a similar timescale to Japan.

[Darth Taurus]

Good morning everyone! Hope on Saturday or Japonese friends will come to help us hold the line! And maybe advance more, instead of only holding the line =)

[Berty213]

KLGChaos wrote...

Berty213 wrote...

I got a question for you all. I have been reading people on twitter saying they are fine with Shepards death but they want closure, I can understand people wanting this, I even want this but only for ONE of the endings, are people really ok with Shepard dieing in all the endings. I wouldn't mind that as one of my endings but I would like a happy ending where Shepard goes back to his/her LI even I have to really work to get the ending.

It's a fad nowadays. People got bored with the happy endings, so they all started going for bleak or bittersweet endings because they have "more emotional impact" and they started to believe happy endings are boring and lame. Many even go so far as to mock people who enjoy happy endings (usually using words like sunshine, butterflies and bunnies). Of course, it's not true. You can have a perfectly good happy ending without the need for everything go be "Happily Ever After" like a Disney movie where everything is peachy keen-- after all, a lot of good people died in this game. They earned that happy ending.

I personally prefer happy endings, though I can tolerate bittersweet. I think with all the choices ME has had, you should be able to get whatever ending you're aiming for.

I think games can still be sad without the protagonist dying at the end, I mean when the Illusive man forced me to shoot Anderson I was like  and that speech he gave at the end was sad even though it was cut down. In my opinion in a game like Mass Effect the fact has Shepard HAS to die is a bit silly considering the games are based on choice.

[Apfelweinbrauer]

halloween20 wrote...

now everyone raging and thay "wont buy any game from BW in the furure..."
just let them wat some month and they will buy new BW games as nothing had happend..

I seriously hope you are uncorrect about that, but I guess you aren't...
It's that kind of inconsistency and weak behaviour that allows companies like EA to treat gamers the way they do.

[laughing sherpa girl]

AAAAAJKKRRRRYZZ wrote...

Kezza wrote...

jerobolod wrote...

I just saw this on Joystiq. Nothing especially new but the majority of people in the comments are in agreement with us.

http://www.joystiq.c...h-common-sense/

Right...mystery and interpretation possibilities?

Are we talknig about that same game here?

Ya I think they were playing a different game.  This was not Splinter Cell it was Mass Effect.

yes, but, read the cmments below.  the ple ( even pople who dnt own mass effect ) are siding with us.. this is a good thing for us, and not such a good thing for EA.

[evisneffo]

Apfelweinbrauer wrote...

AAAAAJKKRRRRYZZ wrote...

However, I think the number would be negative considering I and many others will never buy another Bioware game again.  For example, I was thinking of getting a gaming comp in order to play TOR, but that idea went out the window since the end of ME3.  Why should I get invested in another game when they are just going to tear it all down at the end again?

Yep, I totally agree to that, we can just hope that as many gamers as possible follow this strategy.

Dragon Age was to be one of my next series (maybe unnecessary now though given how many DA spoilers are openly posted around the ME forums!). Alas, I cannot boycott as it is a copy my brother already bought.

[Necroscope]

One wakes up, one has to go.

Stay tuned guys!

[KHReborn]

Apfelweinbrauer wrote...

halloween20 wrote...

now everyone raging and thay "wont buy any game from BW in the furure..."
just let them wat some month and they will buy new BW games as nothing had happend..

I seriously hope you are uncorrect about that, but I guess you aren't...
It's that kind of inconsistency and weak behaviour that allows companies like EA to treat gamers the way they do.

It's getting demotivotional here. For now keep your target in mind. Hold the line!

[rizengrad]

Nyctyris wrote...

rizengrad wrote...

Nyctyris wrote...

any word from asia??

Japan. Not Asia.

Apologies. I used  to live in Hong Kong - we got our games around the time Japan did or a bit later. Dunno if that's still the case, but I was assuming Korea + HK are on a similar timescale to Japan.

EA Asia site says March 6 for HK, KR et al so yeap, they changed it.

[KLGChaos]

Deventh wrote...


By ghostfire from Deviantart.

Ooh... Ghostfire. I picked up her reflection of Tali pic a couple years ago at the NYCC. Great artist. And nice to see she's one of us!

[Darth Taurus]

Never give up hope people! COntinue figthing!

[die-yng]

Memengwa wrote...

die-yng wrote...

Now that a few hours have passed since I finished the game, I still can't get to sleep and I still feel like someone gave me a fist in my stomach, gutted me and left my remains to dry in the sun.

I defnitely won't buy any new game or DLC or anything by Bioware (and EA) if this mess is left as it is.

Hold the line!

This is how I also have felt when I finished the game. I stayed up playing untill 3 am. Then I couldn't sleep for 2 hours.. And I'm not a whiny person, I've played all RPGs ever made by BioWare (except the MMO). They are my no1 game-selling company. NO1. I even tried to play a shooter (Mass Effect), because it was made by THEM. If I ever complained about anything, it was because I wanted it to be better. I have never really felt let down, not even with the things others were complaining about. I was always totally OK with their testing the waters with new things and game styles (like DA2). So they weren't always masterpeaces, but I enjoyed them. ENJOYED, even endings others didnt' lile.

How did it get here? 

It really was the same thing with me , except that I stayed up until 5 am to play and now we have 1pm and I'm still not settling down.
I'm a grown man, damn. But I can't help it. I just care too much about my Shepards. They deserve to rest on the veranda surrounded by their children, with Liara/Tali/ Ash/ Traynor (or whoever you choose) beside them, if I do everything all right. I admit that's what I want. If I can't have it I at least want a satisfying ending.
Why bother getting a perfect score and raising galactic readiness to 100%, when in the end it amounts to nothing?

Mass Effect was my favourite game series, by my favourite company and I also bought everything by them except the MMO (and because of them I was even planning to give SW:OR a try).
And I was fine with the ending of Dragon Age II, okay, it could have been a bit mor epositive, but at least you could end the game with you, your LI, your brother/ sister and all your friends alive and more or less well.

Modifié par die-yng, 15 mars 2012 - 12:24 .

[weatabix]

Apfelweinbrauer wrote...

weatabix wrote...


They wouldn't tell us straight off because the game only finished being released today. Think what would happen to the day one sales in countries where it wasn't released yet if they said they were going to bring out a DLC later to add 'The Truth' as it is being called. People wouldnt buy the game till this was released. I know I wouldn't anyway. 

Uhm, this may be a stupid question, but why wouldn't you buy it right now if the announced said DLC?

Ok, maybe some people would postpone buying the game for a few weeks, but they would buy it anyway, just a bit later, so whats the big deal about that? The sales number would be identical.

Instead, they have to deal with 2-star ratings on amazon, which will REALLY decline their sales numbers...

I wouldn't buy it because it would mean the ending in the released game would not have the intended endings in. Also if a game does badly on its first day retailers etc. will want it cheaper = damage to EA etc. 

[Apfelweinbrauer]

KHReborn wrote...


It's getting demotivotional here. For now keep your target in mind. Hold the line!

Sorry, I will stop it. Hold the line! :happy:

[Katosu]

Apfelweinbrauer wrote...

halloween20 wrote...

now everyone raging and thay "wont buy any game from BW in the furure..."
just let them wat some month and they will buy new BW games as nothing had happend..

I seriously hope you are uncorrect about that, but I guess you aren't...
It's that kind of inconsistency and weak behaviour that allows companies like EA to treat gamers the way they do.

He is incorrect about it. While I am sure many will use the threat of a Boycott of EA/BioWare (DEpending on how far you want to go) products as a base threat to say, 'give me what I want - or else', there's also a good number of people like myself who will actually carry through (Already cancelled preorders, already cancelled SW:TOR accounts, etc.)

When I recieve poor customer care from a place (In this case, EA/BioWare), I tend to give them a chance to fix it by calling in a complaint. I've sent letters, submitted emails, and spoken to customer care reps for EA/BioWare, and as expected they can't really do much to help out. But in the end, so long as things remain as they are - I am going to boycott their products.

And if BioWare tries to release a 'Happy Ending PayUs DLC'... Well, I debate if I would buy it. I might continue my protests, least they admit they were wrong.

[TheRealMithril]

jerobolod wrote...

I just saw this on Joystiq. Nothing especially new but the majority of people in the comments are in agreement with us.

http://www.joystiq.c...h-common-sense/

That is just a rehash from the same interview he made earlier. Still nothing about the endings controversy.

[whitey4444]

This is a nice summary, probably already posted.

Modifié par whitey4444, 15 mars 2012 - 12:24 .

[halloween20]

KHReborn wrote...

Apfelweinbrauer wrote...

halloween20 wrote...

now everyone raging and thay "wont buy any game from BW in the furure..."
just let them wat some month and they will buy new BW games as nothing had happend..

I seriously hope you are uncorrect about that, but I guess you aren't...
It's that kind of inconsistency and weak behaviour that allows companies like EA to treat gamers the way they do.

It's getting demotivotional here. For now keep your target in mind. Hold the line!

i dont say anything about "dont hold the line"... i WANT a different ending !!!

but

all these "wont buy any BW games in future" claims are simple open mind

[BlackDevil06]

KLGChaos wrote...

Berty213 wrote...

I got a question for you all. I have been reading people on twitter saying they are fine with Shepards death but they want closure, I can understand people wanting this, I even want this but only for ONE of the endings, are people really ok with Shepard dieing in all the endings. I wouldn't mind that as one of my endings but I would like a happy ending where Shepard goes back to his/her LI even I have to really work to get the ending.

It's a fad nowadays. People got bored with the happy endings, so they all started going for bleak or bittersweet endings because they have "more emotional impact" and they started to believe happy endings are boring and lame. Many even go so far as to mock people who enjoy happy endings (usually using words like sunshine, butterflies and bunnies). Of course, it's not true. You can have a perfectly good happy ending without the need for everything go be "Happily Ever After" like a Disney movie where everything is peachy keen-- after all, a lot of good people died in this game. They earned that happy ending.

I personally prefer happy endings, though I can tolerate bittersweet. I think with all the choices ME has had, you should be able to get whatever ending you're aiming for.

In a series like ME where your choices mean something and can make a huge difference (saving the council, making sure everyone survived the suicide mission), having an outcome for everyone should be a priority. Happy, bleak and everything in between depending on how you handled yourself through the games.

What i do not like is the constant "Yeah, happy endings don't happen in real life, why here.". Maybe, just MAYBE that is the reason why some poeple like happy endings? Because life throws it in their face everyday.  So my grandmother had a stroke, became a shadow of her former self and eventually died after two years of suffering. I was feeling down for a ling time, there was always the tiny piece of hope that she might recover because thre was progress. Then on Easter Sunday life threw me the big "F YOU" on the face when I heard my grandma had passed away.
What i did was read fanfiction and watch movies with happy endings where not everything is bleak.

Sorry, not really on topic, just one of the reasons why I really want a happy ending.

[Byleth]

First post ever around here and support from France mates !

[Copperwings]

 Someone does indeed get it

www.examiner.com/video-game-in-honolulu/mass-effect-3-ending-responses-from-casey-hudson-unsatisfactory

[MeldarthX]

AAAAAJKKRRRRYZZ wrote...

MeldarthX wrote...

Berty213 wrote...

I got a question for you all. I have been reading people on twitter saying they are fine with Shepards death but they want closure, I can understand people wanting this, I even want this but only for ONE of the endings, are people really ok with Shepard dying in all the endings. I wouldn't mind that as one of my endings but I would like a happy ending where Shepard goes back to his/her LI even I have to really work to get this ending.

as one of the endings I could deal with my shepard sacrificing himself to save everyone.  Its what I'd do.......but I'd like the option to actually make it out too to be with my LI.......

Besides Garrus owes me a round in the bar   if I'm dead I can't collect

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Honestly, yes I would be fine with Shepard dying in all the endings.  That is what I figured would happen in the end anyway.  In my opinion the whole point of ME3 is sacrifice.  Shepard has to sacrifice in order to save the galaxy.  So I would be fine with Shepard dying, but like you said I would just like some closure to wrap the story arc up.
I mean sure, it would be cool to see you settle down with your LI or become the human abassador and meet up with everyone years later, but it is not necissary.

Partly; but the overall theme of ME was overcoming the impossible and coming out alive somehow.  As Shepard we did the impossible; not once; not twice but several times.  Can't say it wouldn't be easy and some wouldn't make it out.........hell we lost Mordin......  That brought tears to my eyes as I sang with him.......I remember getting him to sing in ME 2 and I went.......OMG!!! that's got to be one of the most awesome pieces right there.  



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[die-yng]

Apfelweinbrauer wrote...

halloween20 wrote...

now everyone raging and thay "wont buy any game from BW in the furure..."
just let them wat some month and they will buy new BW games as nothing had happend..

I seriously hope you are uncorrect about that, but I guess you aren't...
It's that kind of inconsistency and weak behaviour that allows companies like EA to treat gamers the way they do.

There have been other companies who've lost my money and there'll be more in the future.
This is all about voting with your wallet and about drawing a line, where you won't just accept things anymore.

[Darkspazztic]

BlackDevil06 wrote...

KLGChaos wrote...

Berty213 wrote...

I got a question for you all. I have been reading people on twitter saying they are fine with Shepards death but they want closure, I can understand people wanting this, I even want this but only for ONE of the endings, are people really ok with Shepard dieing in all the endings. I wouldn't mind that as one of my endings but I would like a happy ending where Shepard goes back to his/her LI even I have to really work to get the ending.

It's a fad nowadays. People got bored with the happy endings, so they all started going for bleak or bittersweet endings because they have "more emotional impact" and they started to believe happy endings are boring and lame. Many even go so far as to mock people who enjoy happy endings (usually using words like sunshine, butterflies and bunnies). Of course, it's not true. You can have a perfectly good happy ending without the need for everything go be "Happily Ever After" like a Disney movie where everything is peachy keen-- after all, a lot of good people died in this game. They earned that happy ending.

I personally prefer happy endings, though I can tolerate bittersweet. I think with all the choices ME has had, you should be able to get whatever ending you're aiming for.

In a series like ME where your choices mean something and can make a huge difference (saving the council, making sure everyone survived the suicide mission), having an outcome for everyone should be a priority. Happy, bleak and everything in between depending on how you handled yourself through the games.

What i do not like is the constant "Yeah, happy endings don't happen in real life, why here.". Maybe, just MAYBE that is the reason why some poeple like happy endings? Because life throws it in their face everyday.  So my grandmother had a stroke, became a shadow of her former self and eventually died after two years of suffering. I was feeling down for a ling time, there was always the tiny piece of hope that she might recover because thre was progress. Then on Easter Sunday life threw me the big "F YOU" on the face when I heard my grandma had passed away.
What i did was read fanfiction and watch movies with happy endings where not everything is bleak.

Sorry, not really on topic, just one of the reasons why I really want a happy ending.

Agree with you wholeheartedly.  Life sucks.  Don't make our videogames suck.

Besides, I'm just a complete sucker for happy endings.