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[Denethar]

Bubi7 wrote...

PDesign wrote...

too true, the 1994 one reminds me at Quake 1

Original prince of persia game back in the DOS caused that very reaction.....my hate for level 12 will never disappear.

[Darth Taurus]

45k on Child's Play! Let's get to 50k people! Don't stop helping!

Hold the Line!

[Nilofeliu]

edite. I will repost

Modifié par Nilofeliu, 15 mars 2012 - 02:05 .

[LadyMarisa]

I have played twice now and have determined I will never get the 4k+ ending I want to see. I have done everything I possibly can. Unfortunately I cannot bring myself to make some of the choices that some people report a boost in war assets. Part of the love of this series for me is watching the character *I* developed triumph in each chapter. I don't *want* to have to kill the Rachni etc. Strictly IMO, I should be able to get the "perfect" ending on my own hard work. Considering There were no quests left for me to do at all nor anything I had missed for scanning, it should have paid off for me.

At this point, I'm already burned out on the game. I don't want to back to ME1 and play a character that isn't reflective of my style at all in order to get the last few points to see my character maybe live. If you have to make specific choices and only those specific choices then as others have said, there wasn't much point to playing the games.

I own all the ME games so my next thought doesn't apply to me specifically but... Someome just getting into this series shouldn't be gimped. We should be welcoming new fans. So it should be possible to get the "maybe you live" ending with a brand new ME3 game playthrough. Just my opinion and none of what I have said would I want to start a debate over, I'm just venting to the community.

Sure, I can watch the videos on youtube, but I wanted it to apply to the character *I* developed. I'm really liking the theories of Indoctrination or a dream etc etc so I'll cross my fingers for those. However, (and let me make it clear I know I'm operating on assumptions here) if/when DLC comes out with a better ending, I sincerely hope I will not be locked out because I still couldn't reach 4000+ EMS. Wouldn't that just suck?

TL;DR

Yet another unhappy customer who is pessimistic about even the proposed theories.

[slipliker]

Along with this indoctrination theory. So, choosing the RED path you only get out of indoctrination, and nothing like "MASS RELAYS BLOWING UP GODDAMNIT" ever happens? It's like Shepard starts somewhere in the field where they wanted to get to the citadel, and then the new ending starts?

[Deventh]

halloween20 wrote...

Hadscho wrote...

halloween20 wrote...

lol...i got a terrible idea after searching for game that i can play now...

what IF they plan to bring me3 in chapters ?
we have only played one half of the whole game.


like it is with starcraft 2... first game only "chapter one" out of three...


:blink:

I'm pretty sure that there are laws against something like this here in central europe.... after all that would be a fraud (Betrug bin mir nicht sicher ob fraud das richtige wort ist) IMO

why a fraud ?
u buy a game and play it... nothing more.
unlike a car which must be completely when u buy it... a game is complete when the publisher think it's complete... not when a player mention it to be complete

I would actually like that since i don't want the story of Shepard to end. But only if they have a really good idea of how to give us these expansions.

[Bubi7]

Xyalon wrote...

Bubi7 wrote...

Alamandorious wrote...
See, I was fine with Tali's face...I mean, I would have loved to see it -rendered- on the model, but if that's how they envisioned her appearance, it really is a lovely face ^^

I am positively suprised, and fine with the alterations and its loveliness, and all. I just would be disapointed if they really took a gettyimages picture

Which they did.

Don't get me wrong, it's lovely with the alterations and such. Just, well, Tali is worth more to me than that and they seem to have not cared. But the hand thing really got me as "we don't really give a crap, who is really going to look at it more than once". Seriously, do you not know your fan base?

Exactly what I was trying to say! Even though I was always romancing Liara (and will do) Tali always had feelings for Shep and femShep (I read about it on the wiki I think..) and she is such a lovely character. She would have deserved more than that.

tompuddefoot wrote...
Useing the Wiki? Isnt that cheating?

what if he found out everything by himself, and can't remember anymore? 

[Koobarex]

Darth Taurus wrote...

45k on Child's Play! Let's get to 50k people! Don't stop helping!

Hold the Line!

Oh, let's get far beyond that!

[Dan Rosse]

halloween20 wrote...

why a fraud ?
u buy a game and play it... nothing more.
unlike a car which must be completely when u buy it... a game is complete when the publisher think it's complete... not when a player mention it to be complete

Player is the one who actually giving developer a purpose to exist. I know, I'm working in gamedev industry. However, frauds are REALLY out of place.

[kongenial]

[ZeroCrewX]

Darth Taurus wrote...

45k on Child's Play! Let's get to 50k people! Don't stop helping!

Hold the Line!

dafuq?! It was 40 yesterday!

Brb need to find my credit card!!!

[tompuddefoot]

Xyalon wrote...

tompuddefoot wrote...

Xyalon wrote...

tompuddefoot wrote...

Xyalon wrote...

tompuddefoot wrote...

Hmmmm,

random question,

I have taken the same three saves, Good, Bad and Femshep. I have done ME3 on good, but now dont see any point in taking the other two through ME3.

Do you think that if I started back from ME1 with a whole new Shep, that by the time I get to ME3 there will be some DLC and a new/different/improved ending.
Like a race to save the galaxy between me and Bioware.

Who do you think will win?

If you're looking for total and utter completion on Veteran/Hardcore then you're looking at about 150-180 hours. That's a good couple of weeks. I say go for it.

Well, maybe not on Hardcore etc. But all the side missions, DLC and everything.
I also (although not the last week) have quite a busy life outside of gaming. I work, play squash and play/coach football. So It would proberly take me a good month or so I think. Maybe more.

If you use the mass effect Wiki for ME1 and ME2 to locate all objects on planets and quests via scans, then you should still be able to do it. in 2-3 weeks.

Useing the Wiki? Isnt that cheating?

I only suggested it in the light of expediency. I didn't use the wiki, I went to every damned planet, and spent hours in my beloved mako. But if you want a fast playthrough then it's not cheating if you're just redoing what you've done and using a memory aid.

Ah yes, the Mako..... I forgot about those bits.
Wiki it is then!!!

Man I hated that friging Mako tank and the stupid planets that were all the same. Then again the scanning wasnt at all fun either.

[TheRealMithril]

lodgik wrote...

IxSITHxI wrote...

And then skip to min 39. You are attempint to recover me from indoctrinated forces?

you're freakin right the VI even says "my security protocol have been overide, I will complie"

The VI faces Garrus, and who is VI saying it will "comply" to... that's right.. Shepard.

[die-yng]

The indoctrination theory is just fine...
But I'm not buying that Shep is already indoctrinated. Not one of her/his decisions has in any way helped the reapers, unlike everybody else who was indoctrinated.

I still think the best explanation for the ending is that it is an indoctrination attempt by harbinger, but not that Shep has already been successfully indoctrinated.

There were so mayn possibilites were Shepard and/ or his crew could have been indoctrinated.

I think he/ she's extremely resilient to it, because of the prothean cypher.

[Palathas]

One other thing I would like to mention about the official word that it's possible to get the perfect ending without multi-player. It's also possible to run 100m in under 10 seconds. Yet how many people can do that?

[Dan Rosse]

slipliker wrote...

Along with this indoctrination theory. So, choosing the RED path you only get out of indoctrination, and nothing like "MASS RELAYS BLOWING UP GODDAMNIT" ever happens? It's like Shepard starts somewhere in the field where they wanted to get to the citadel, and then the new ending starts?

Choosing ANY color makes relays destroed. Still, welcome aboard!

[kongenial]

Dan Rosse wrote...

slipliker wrote...

Along with this indoctrination theory. So, choosing the RED path you only get out of indoctrination, and nothing like "MASS RELAYS BLOWING UP GODDAMNIT" ever happens? It's like Shepard starts somewhere in the field where they wanted to get to the citadel, and then the new ending starts?

Choosing ANY color makes relays destroed. Still, welcome aboard!

[Apfelweinbrauer]

DifferentD17 wrote...

Is it weird that I'm scarred that if they make a new ending they might make it worse?

How could it possibly be worse than what we've already got?

You find a magic wand, wave it and then three golden chocobos appear and carry the witch-king of Angmar, Dr. Robotnik and Lex Luger into battle who single-handedly defeat the reaper menace. After that, the screen goes black and the game simply states "A winner is you!" in comic sans. That's about the only thing, that could be worse than the actual ending...

[Sywen]

kongenial wrote...

I haven't got tired of this one yet.

[Nilofeliu]

Xyalon wrote...

Has anyone read the Arkis alternate ending? This person isn't even an employee and came up with a rather canonical alternate ending which would make people happy. I know I would still have sheps which chose to sacrifice themselves or choose destruction or control....

Not as I would have thought myself, but what can I say! This ending is PERFECT, just perfect.

Congratulations to whoever wrote it, and Bioware should hire you...

This gave me some sense of closure...

Arkis Endings for ME3

Child: Why are you here?

Shepard: *groggily* Wh-where am I?

Child: The Citadel. It is my home.

Shepard: Who are you?

Child: I am the Catalyst.

Shepard: I thought the Citadel was the Catalyst?

Child: No. The Citadel is simply a tool. One that has been reclaimed.

Shepard: I need to stop the Reapers. Do you know how to do that?

Child: The Reapers are mine. I control them. They are my solution.

Shepard: Solution? To what?

Child: Chaos. You bring it on yourselves. The created will always rebel against their creators. So it was with us. So will it be with you. But we found a way to stop that from happening. A way to restore order for the next cycle.

Shepard: By wiping out organic life? I don't understand...

Child: No. We harvest ADVANCED civilizations. Preserve them from their own mistakes. Leaving the younger ones alone. Just as we left your people alive the last time we were here.

Shepard: But you killed the rest...

Child: We helped them ascend. Preserved them in Reaper form. Saved them from their own creations.

Shepard: What creations? What are you talking about?

Child: The synthetic. The new child that is born of organics. The child that destroys everything.

Shepard: What?

Child: We were like you once. We flourished and spread throughout the galaxy. We unlocked the secrets of the universe. We could bend the very fabric of nature and time, leap the galaxy in a single stride, but even that was not enough. We searched for purpose, a reason for our existence....
Shepard: You were organics?

Child: We were children of the stars. Searching for where we fit into the pattern of the cosmos. And when we discovered the truth, it destroyed us.

Shepard: What truth?

Child: Organic life has no purpose. We are an accident.

Shepard: An accident...

Child: We were a simple pattern. Basic chemistry combining into unusual chaotic forms. When we mastered the galaxy we found there was nothing else remaining. We were lords over a domain that had no need for us.

Shepard: That... but, why kill us? I don't understand! You found the edge and now you're punishing us for it?!

Child: No. We are saving you. Our children, our synthetic creations, did not suffer our qualms. They did not need to find purpose, they were created by us. We had given purpose to them. And that gave them the power to choose to rebel.

Shepard: You were beaten by your machines?

Child: You have seen the pattern yourself. The Geth. Your Rogue AI's. Even now, the pattern is repeating. As it did with us. As it always does. The war threatened to destroy everything. Our own weapons could wipe out suns, harness the dark energy of the universe that bound it together. We could have destroyed the galaxy.... we nearly did.

Shepard: The relay network....

Child: Our weapons. We realized that if the synthetics defeated us, they would not stop. All life, however simple, however small, would be destroyed. Eventually they would spread to other galaxies. They were infinite, could last indefinitely. And then the great accident, the great miracle of life, would be doomed.

Shepard: But you found a way to stop them! We're still here! Just tell me how!

Child: We became them.

Shepard: What?

Child: We could not defeat the synthetics. Not as we were, frail, mortal... flawed. So we evolved. Preserved ourselves as those you know as Reapers. We ascended.
We became the synthesis of life and machine. And we destroyed our children.

Shepard: But why all THIS?

Child: Our time was over. We knew we had reached the crucible of our existence. But we will not allow those who followed in our footsteps to repeat our mistakes. You will create your own destroyers, if you are allowed, and doom ALL life again. We do not give you that chance.

Shepard: But you're not saving us! You're dooming us!

Child: No. We are preserving you. You use our technology, spread through the galaxy using the Mass Relays, never learning the secrets for yourselves. Thus we confine you to this galaxy, so that we may preserve you. We divide you, cripple you from within. Turn your own forms against you. Contain your mistakes. Then, we allow you to ascend to become one of us, and thus, safeguard the next cycle.

Shepard: We don't WANT to be preserved! We want to keep our own form.

Child: You cannot.

Shepard: The defining characteristic of organic life is that we make our own choices. Take that away, and we become no better than the machines you claim to protect us from. We can choose not to repeat the pattern.

Child: You have already repeated it. The geth are only the first step. And even now, they have risen to a state of being that will allow them to destroy you, should they choose.

Shepard: They are standing beside us. We still have a choice.

Child: Yes. You have more choice than you deserve. The fact that you are standing here proves that. Despite all our plans, you have found a way around them. There is no certainty that another cycle will not do the same. The solution is....flawed. And then there is the Crucible. It has changed things. Created new possibilities.

Shepard: I don't understand. What does it do? How does it work?

Child: We could rewrite the stars in our time. The Catalyst was our greatest achievement, a machine that could alter mass and rearrange matter at will. The Crucible focus's that. Takes what it is given and allows the Citadel to spread it. But I cannot control it so I cannot make that happen.

Shepard: Make what happen?

Child: What you came here to do. You can destroy us, if you like. Wipe out all synthetic life in the galaxy, including the Geth. Even you are partly synthetic. It will give them time to find a new solution....But your children WILL repeat the chaos.

Shepard: But the Reapers will be destroyed?

Child: Yes. You may also use it to control the Reapers.

Shepard: So, the Illusive man was right...

Child: Yes, but he could not control us, for we already controlled him. The catalyst will let you merge with them. But it will destroy you, consume you utterly.

Shepard: But the Reapers WILL obey me?

Child: Yes.... We will do as you will. But without us, the pattern will reappear. And you will eventually choose for us to begin the cycle again, this time perfected. There is however, a third option.

Shepard: Which is?

Child: Synthesis. You are partly synthetic. Merge with the Catalyst and you can change all life in the galaxy to become as you are. As we are. Synthetic and Organic. The entire galaxy will ascend.

Shepard: The...whole Galaxy? That's impossible.

Child: Is it? You have seen it already. It is how we are able to combat you, fusing your forms with synthetic matter to create new DNA. You call them 'husks'.

Shepard: But...the whole galaxy....

Child: Everything in the universe is energy. Matter, mass, even time is nothing more than that. The Relays and Catalyst are simply tools that control that energy. Life will be preserved. The growth will be stopped. And there will be peace.

Shepard: Why are you telling me this?

Child: You have done what no other organic has. You have proven that our solution can be overcome. We underestimated you before, thought of you as a mere inconvenience. But you are more than that. You have given us a new...perspective...Variables that we cannot forsee.

Shepard: The perspective that organics don't like being murdered? Something tells me you haven't been paying attention...

Child: We have eradicated eons of life. You have done what none of them could. We do not confess that lightly. Whichever you choose, once the energy from the Catalyst is unleashed, it will destroy the mass relays.

Shepard: But if we lose the relays... We'll have nothing. Whole civilizations will fall!

Child: That is a possibility.

Shepard: But... I don't... I can't....

Child: The paths are open, Shepard. You must choose.

*Shepard looks down at her bleeding side, then up at the raging battle above her head. We see ships of all sizes being shot down, Reapers crumbling under crushing fusillades of fire. You can now choose to go down one of the three paths. OR... you can wait...*

Shepard: I... can't make this choice...

Child: It is the choice you asked for. It is salvation.

Shepard: No matter what, it damns us! Without the relays we will lose everything!

Child: Perhaps.

*We see the battle raging on Earth, squad members we have saved, armies we have recruited, all fighting desperately against overwhelming odds. Shepard, looks to the Catalyst.*

Child: You have no other way Shepard. Your followers trust in you. Make your decision.

Shepard: They didn't trust me to destroy us! You can stop this! You can choose to call them off! Just leave!

Child: No. If you will not choose a new solution, the cycle will continue. We will simply... reassess, for the future.

Shepard: It doesn't have to be that way! You can still give us a chance!

Child: We cannot. Your followers trust you to save them. You cannot. Not as you wish. This fight is in vain. We are giving you a chance. One that is more than you deserve.

Shepard: I won't play God...

Child: Your friends are dying Shepard. *The boy turns into the Virmire casualty* I know you'll do whatever it takes to get us through this, skipper.

Shepard: Go to hell...

Child: *turns into Anderson* Come on child. This is what you're here for! This is how we win! We can't fight them conventionally, you know that!

Shepard: **** you! I won't! I've beaten your kind already!

*We see the battle raging above them, the massed fleets being obliterated on both sides*

Child: *morphs into Hackett* We threw everything we had at Sovereign, and that was just one Reaper.... We just can't stand up against them. Not even together.

Shepard: No! We've broken the pattern! We've allied with the Geth! We've unified our species! It doesn't have to happen again!

Child: *turning into LI* You know we can't do this. We can't come this far just to throw it away! We're dying out here!

*Shepard can now choose one of the three options OR gamble everything...*

Child: *Illusive Man* Don't throw away everything over your ideals! This is the only solution!

Shepard: *turning to the child* Oh my god... you're scared... aren't you?

Child: No.

*a Reaper above them is destroyed under a feirce volley of massed ships*

Shepard: Yes.... you are... You should have rolled over us by now.... But you didn't...

Child: We have been merely delayed. If we must, we will destroy you all. We have offered you salvation.

Shepard: No.... you offered me a way to stop the fighting. You've never faced something like this before... The Illusive Man knew how to beat you, knew he could disrupt your armies... that's why you attacked him. Indoctrinated him. He came up with another option, he just didn't know it. He he thought he'd found control.... but he really found out how to turn that into Chaos.

Child: *aloof* We held the power to rewrite the stars. We are perfected. We cannot be defeated. Choose.

Shepard: Bull****. You're not perfected. You're MACHINES. Machines that sit on the edge of the galaxy, lurking where we can't find you when you're vulnerable. Vigil said it himself. That's why you USE us! Turn our own people into your armies! You can't beat us on your own!

Child: We are the salvation of all life. We have swept away all before us. We will do so again.

Shepard: By blindsiding your targets through the Citadel! By coercing us into a trap with the relays! You've always picked off your opponents independently! You used the same tactic with the Collectors! You've never had to stand and fight the combined might of a galaxy united!

Child: Your arrogance will only lead to your destruction. Choose.

Shepard: No. We killed Sovereign. We killed the Reaper at the collector base. We killed them on Rannoch, on Tuchanka, and down there! We stopped you from using the Alpha relay, and you're spread thin. The Illusive Man found out how to control your armies, disrupt your signal. That's why you attacked him, you were scared. We can beat you.

Child: Paltry victories.

Shepard: Maybe. But the combined might of the galaxy is holding you back. The Krogan and Turians on Palaven, the Quarians and GETH on Rannoch. And we'll do it, here, on Earth.

Child: We have given you fair solutions Shepard. Options to fix the system.

SHepard: No you've given me YOUR options. We've shown you we can win, and you're looking for a way out, a way to cripple us because you can't do it the way you used to. You failed at playing God and now you want me to wipe out your mistakes! Well I won't. I choose what we've ALWAYS chosen. I choose to take our damn chances.

Child: You would risk the eventual destruction of all life? Risk the future to the likes of the Geth? The Krogan? More like them will follow. Do you trust them?

Shepard: They put their trust in me to unify them. I trust them to finish the job.

Child: We thought you were different Shepard. We thought you would understand.
Shepard: Happy to disappoint.

*The child transforms into Harbringer*

Harbringer: So be it. Shepard. *then disappears*

*Shepard collapses*

Shepard: Admiral? Hackett? Anyone...

*we see the crews of multiple ships, the soldiers and charcaters fighting below all in the midst of hectic combat hearing Shepard's broadcast. What happens next is dependent on whether or not you have enough war assets/readiness to actually break the reapers here. If you don't the Reapers win, no questions asked, and the cycle remains unbroken.*

Shepard:... I don't know if you can hear me. But the Crucible is not an option... it won't save us... It won't bring us victory. I know a lot of our friends have died for this chance. But this isn't the end. We can beat them. You can beat them. They've always won by dividing us, turning each other against ourselves. But no longer. You CAN beat them. The ships next to you, the soldiers fighting by your side, can beat them. They aren't invulnerable. We beat them at Rannoch. We beat them at the Citadel. You can BEAT THEM NOW. You can break the back of the greatest threat the galaxy has ever known, because you, together, are the single greatest force this Galaxy has ever seen. Give them hell.

*The battle that follows is the epic conclusion, as Shepard watches, broken and bleeding, as everything he has put into this unified force throws itself at the Reapers. This is where all those decisions come to fruition. We want to see those War Assets fighting. The Destiny Ascension obliterating a Reaper with it's main gun before being swarmed over by Destroyers, the Geth armada pulling along side to save her. The Salarian STG calling in a biotic artillery strike on cluster of Reaper troops. Wrex and Garrus, on the front sharing a stern moment in cover, before nodding to each other, brothers in arms, before charging over the barricade. Back to back, they face down hordes of husks, Wrex shouting defiantly, "You think you can take our future!? You think YOU CAN TAKE MY CHILDREN?!"
We want to see the Quarian flotilla scrambling, all guns blazing, trying desperately to form a battleline, as one of the admirals quietly turns to their crew, signalling his ship all ahead full. "For the homeworld. Keela..." their words cut off as the live-ship rams a Reaper, exploding spectacularly and damaging two others. We want to see the Normandy frantically weaving through the wreckage, Joker and EDI yelling warnings to one another as the fleets explode around them. We want Tali leading a charge of Geth Primes against a Cannibal gun line. Rachni drones swarming over a Reaper Destroyer by the thousands, pulling it apart from the inside. We want to see Grunt wrestle a brute to the ground and unload his shotgun into his head.

Happy or sad, we just want to see those decisions play out. We want to see that what we did mattered. And as the battle unfolds, you are left with the Choice. Do you think you have enough? As Shepard bleeds out, watching all he/she loved go up in flames, do you take the risk? Provided you have enough manpower, can you break the back of the Reaper fleet, though at horrendous cost? Once the battle is over, and the truth of what the Illusive Man discovered is revealed, the remaining survivors get the word out that there is a way to disrupt the Reaper signal, scatter the Reaper armies. Or something*

/Salute

AND HOLD THE LINE

[Dan Rosse]

Palathas wrote...

One other thing I would like to mention about the official word that it's possible to get the perfect ending without multi-player. It's also possible to run 100m in under 10 seconds. Yet how many people can do that?

Actually, running a 100m distance in 9.5sec is normal for healthy men)))

[Chrumpek]

Can someone fill me in with what was leaked in terms of story since I didn't read any spoilers pre-game release?


That xibit pic is priceless :>

Modifié par Chrumpek, 15 mars 2012 - 02:06 .

[Deventh]

The red wire,green wire or blue wire? That is the real question...

[Goikiu]

Palathas wrote...

One other thing I would like to mention about the official word that it's possible to get the perfect ending without multi-player. It's also possible to run 100m in under 10 seconds. Yet how many people can do that?

Not possible. 

"Hold the Line Newcomer" 

[Elanor]

Denethar wrote...

mulder1199 wrote...

BlackDevil06 wrote...

blackeyes677 wrote...

Don't know if this has made it here yet.  Pulled it form /r/masseffect.  Gave me a few laughs. 

Sadly I always get 403 - forbidden. Can't see any of these pics.

after you get the 403 screen, rehighlight the address bar and hit enter, works for me

Thank you!

+1 internet to you.

Thanks. Very true pic.