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[Unit-Alpha]

Obidex wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Obidex wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Obidex wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

GRISHASAUR wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

GRISHASAUR wrote...

so thier is no way to get a happy ending at all no matter what you do. that makes no sence

Welcome aboard, Skipper.

so what  are  7 endings?  i heard that there still might be a happy ending where the reapers are dead and the relays are not gone please let that be ture

Nope, there isn't.

Last I checked there was, but that was from Strat guy

The people with the actual game have pretty much confirmed there isn't.

Gonna go ahead and assume they haven't played through every possible way. Data mining can only do so much if a developer wants to keep something hidden. So if the strat says there is one I'm gonna go ahead and hope that is true.

I've gone through the files of both MEs and you can't just make something not appear if you have any idea about file manipulation, which the guy who has it obvious does.

Not at all true, misdirection is common in a lot of file archives...though I have not seen it in this franchise it is present in others.

Sorry, wrong. If you look at the CookedPC folder, there's a movie section. The movies all use the generic bik file type, which is easily examined through Bink video, a free download. He probably just searched for all the .bik files and went through those.

The other structures are propriety Bioware file types that cannot be used for movie storage.

Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 29 février 2012 - 07:45 .

[Tietj]

RazorrX wrote...

OOOH! the planet could 'cure' Joker and he could be John Locke!

lol.  Actually, now that I think about it, if the planet really is deserted, Joker is pretty screwed.  And he loses EDI, in six out of the seven endings.  That's actually an odd thing to think about, really.  Joker is second only to Liara as a character that has been forced on us (not mentioned much because most of us like him) and the developers seem to have gone to a lot of trouble to set up his thing with EDI, only to have it dashed at the last minute in most cases.  Perhaps that's a sign that we should take the leaks with a grain of salt?

[Capeo]

Cor7ana wrote...

Obidex wrote...
Gonna go ahead and assume they haven't played through every possible way. Data mining can only do so much if a developer wants to keep something hidden. So if the strat says there is one I'm gonna go ahead and hope that is true.

I find it funny that people have managed to data mine in such a short time. This isn't NCIS where you've got Abby and McGee remotely controlling a suspect's computer within the hour. I'm not saying that this is the most diffuclt thing in the world, but I'd like to mention that there's no, "show me cool ****" button.

The SEs came out days ago.  It doesn't take that long to data mine the game nor play it.  The SE guy said his first play through took 23 hours.

[Patriota125]

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

http://www.eurogamer...me-people-angry

"It's going to make some people extremely happy. It's going to make some people angry. But that's part of it, right? To invoke the emotion putting some of these stories to bed will naturally bring up.
 
He added: "I honestly think the player base is going to be really happy with the way we've done it. You had a part in it. Every decision you've made will impact how things go. The player's also the architect of what happens."
 
Whether you're happy or angry at the ending, know this: it is an ending. BioWare will not do a "Lost" and leave fans with more questions than answers after finishing the game, Gamble promised.
 
"You'll get answers to everything. That was one of the key things. Regardless of how we did everything, we had to say, yes, we're going to provide some answers to these people."

Sigh... Like someone already said "I love marketing".

And we did get answers. They even explained the Reapers motives and origins in ME2. Proof that you don't know a thing about the series and your just complaining because you can. GTFO.

[Elegana]

Marta Rio wrote...

Can somebody give me a quick summary of the "facts in evidence" so far?

Specifically, could you answer:
(1) How many leakers there are? (i.e. people to claim to have copies of the game and are releasing spoilery info.)
(2) What platforms are they claiming to run on?
(3) Have they actually played through the game itself or just extracted video files?
(4) If they've played through it, how much time have they spent with the game? Are they claiming to have experienced all the possible endings, or just some of them?
(5) Which of the leakers have actually posted direct evidence (screen shots, vids, etc.) so that we know that they're not just talking out of their asses?

Thanks!

1) Tank, Xiosite, and Novem. Tank claims to be an ex-tester for ME3 before he was fired for releasing information about ME3. Xiosite has shown pictures that he has both the PS3 and 360 space editions because him and his wife were the first ones there. Novem claims to have a Prima guide, but he has since come back to his original Q&A thread.
2) Tank is going off his own info. He doesn't have the game. Xiosite was using 360. 
3) Xiosite had played through it, he says. He also claims that he extracted video files from his 360 and uploaded them to the PC and shuffled through (ALL in one hour). I recently heard that he used an "out-dated" program that doesn't extract everything. 
4) I don't recall Xiosite telling us how much time he spent. He claims he's gotten all 3 endings (but didn't tell us what his outcomes were). It's possible that when you reload the game, it's the save before the last mission.
5) Xiosite has only posted pictures of his copies of the game. The two "leaked" photos were found on IMGUR and no one could figure out the source. One photo is believed to be photoshopped because it looks too similar to wallpaper found on Google.

[humes spork]

the_one_54321 wrote...

Anyone that swallowed that marketing jargon was begging for disaster. It's a video game. There is no such thing as genuine choice. Outcomes are always strictly limited in some way.

I'll readily grant that, but with some caveats:

1. Mass Effect's ultimate selling point really isn't anything new. The whole schtick of exporting/importing saves and characters with game-altering decisions has been around since at least TSR/SSI's gold box games. To be frank, my frame of reference building expectations about what the Mass Effect trilogy would and would not do in terms of this was the gold box games. And from that, Mass Effect is a step forward...but not one you'd expect from twenty years' worth of industry development in every conceivable trajectory.

2. The first and second ME games were set up for precisely that end. It's apparent, and that expectation is raised within the context of the game itself, PR statements, box art, game magazines and reviews be damned. The outcomes regardless of insular choices were similar, but set up in a way those insular choices would return in the series and in a genuinely meaningful way. For example, the Rachni: no perceivable short-term consequences, but potentially massive long-term consequences that weren't readily apparent, and the game went out of its way to make sure that was the player's expectation. And where do they factor into ME3's story? If it's not in some major, plot-altering way in the very least then the game -- the end product itself -- has failed to meet the expectation itself set. That's not just a matter of "marketing jargon", that's the end result as pertains directly to the end product.

3. It's perfectly feasible to have written a set of divergent, yet programmable and sensible, endings that depend heavily upon choices that precede the final sequence. What we apparently get instead is a (heavily retconned, mind you) eleventh-hour plot coupon that has little if anything to do with what proceeded it. And, facially that plot coupon raises more questions and potential plot holes than it resolves. That's just contrived and lazy, especially for the fact that of all the potential plot coupons Bioware went with, it's one that's not foreshadowed in the trilogy unlike a few dozen other potential plot coupons that had been and heavily so.

Do I expect a different ending for each of the couple thousand potential iterations of gameplay through the trilogy? Of course not. That's flatly unrealistic. What I do expect, on the other hand, is an ending sequence that's actually derived from the choices made throughout the trilogy.

[Unit-Alpha]

Capeo wrote...

Cor7ana wrote...

Obidex wrote...
Gonna go ahead and assume they haven't played through every possible way. Data mining can only do so much if a developer wants to keep something hidden. So if the strat says there is one I'm gonna go ahead and hope that is true.

I find it funny that people have managed to data mine in such a short time. This isn't NCIS where you've got Abby and McGee remotely controlling a suspect's computer within the hour. I'm not saying that this is the most diffuclt thing in the world, but I'd like to mention that there's no, "show me cool ****" button.

The SEs came out days ago.  It doesn't take that long to data mine the game nor play it.  The SE guy said his first play through took 23 hours.

They only need to download Bink video and go through the movies folder to find all the important stuff.

Well, once he extracts the files from the disk.

Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 29 février 2012 - 07:47 .

[The Unfallen]

Well as long as my Shepard character can survive the onslaught I will be happy...

[GRISHASAUR]

ravenrena wrote...

Cor7ana wrote...

Obidex wrote...
Gonna go ahead and assume they haven't played through every possible way. Data mining can only do so much if a developer wants to keep something hidden. So if the strat says there is one I'm gonna go ahead and hope that is true.

I find it funny that people have managed to data mine in such a short time. This isn't NCIS where you've got Abby and McGee remotely controlling a suspect's computer within the hour. I'm not saying that this is the most diffuclt thing in the world, but I'd like to mention that there's no, "show me cool ****" button.

The pc version has leaked too and people have gone through it and these are the only endings.

not dosnt make  any sense at alll

[DragonRageGT]

Dariustwinblade wrote...

The PC version is actually leaked its in TPB right now. The rumors will be prooven true!!!!!!!!!!!!!



At this point I can only hope for a Broken Steel like DLC.

It is an unplayable clone dvd version which I doubt Origin will allow to be played without a CD-key and on the proper date. Nothing will be proven true. And if everything the space guy said is true, I would then doubt he got the full release of the game. Maybe the space edition was not a full release. Can they import their Shepards? 

[eye basher]

Capeo wrote...

Cor7ana wrote...

Obidex wrote...
Gonna go ahead and assume they haven't played through every possible way. Data mining can only do so much if a developer wants to keep something hidden. So if the strat says there is one I'm gonna go ahead and hope that is true.

I find it funny that people have managed to data mine in such a short time. This isn't NCIS where you've got Abby and McGee remotely controlling a suspect's computer within the hour. I'm not saying that this is the most diffuclt thing in the world, but I'd like to mention that there's no, "show me cool ****" button.

The SEs came out days ago.  It doesn't take that long to data mine the game nor play it.  The SE guy said his first play through took 23 hours.

I'm sorry but just cause some guy in the internet says something i'm supposed to believe him.

[CerberusSoldier]

RazorrX wrote...

OOOH! the planet could 'cure' Joker and he could be John Locke!

   


well he could have died insantly

[Favourite store on the CitadeI]

 Mass Effect 3: Take Earth Back   Descions Don't Matter

[Marta Rio]

Tietj wrote...

Marta Rio wrote...

Can somebody give me a quick summary of the "facts in evidence" so far?

Specifically, could you answer:
(1) How many leakers there are? (i.e. people to claim to have copies of the game and are releasing spoilery info.)
(2) What platforms are they claiming to run on?
(3) Have they actually played through the game itself or just extracted video files?
(4) If they've played through it, how much time have they spent with the game? Are they claiming to have experienced all the possible endings, or just some of them?
(5) Which of the leakers have actually posted direct evidence (screen shots, vids, etc.) so that we know that they're not just talking out of their asses?

Thanks!

1, Two: Tank and Xio, and one guy who claims to have the strategy guide but doesn't have all that much info on the endings (and what he does have may contradict the others)
2. I'm not sure.  XBOX I think.
3. Both, at least in one case. 
4. I think he admitted that he went through it pretty quickly.
5. They both seem to be pretty legit.

Much obliged, Tietj.

Maybe there's more evidence than this, but I dunno, that seems far from definitive.  If these people played through the xbox edition "pretty quickly", how could they possible know all the endings?

Is this really all the evidence that we have our panties in a collective bunch over?

Modifié par Marta Rio, 29 février 2012 - 07:48 .

[Arch1eviathan]

RazorrX wrote...

OOOH! the planet could 'cure' Joker and he could be John Locke!

His life for the island!

[Unit-Alpha]

Marta Rio wrote...

Tietj wrote...

Marta Rio wrote...

Can somebody give me a quick summary of the "facts in evidence" so far?

Specifically, could you answer:
(1) How many leakers there are? (i.e. people to claim to have copies of the game and are releasing spoilery info.)
(2) What platforms are they claiming to run on?
(3) Have they actually played through the game itself or just extracted video files?
(4) If they've played through it, how much time have they spent with the game? Are they claiming to have experienced all the possible endings, or just some of them?
(5) Which of the leakers have actually posted direct evidence (screen shots, vids, etc.) so that we know that they're not just talking out of their asses?

Thanks!

1, Two: Tank and Xio, and one guy who claims to have the strategy guide but doesn't have all that much info on the endings (and what he does have may contradict the others)
2. I'm not sure.  XBOX I think.
3. Both, at least in one case. 
4. I think he admitted that he went through it pretty quickly.
5. They both seem to be pretty legit.

Maybe there's more evidence than this, but I dunno, that seems far from definitive.  If these people played through the xbox edition "pretty quickly", how could they possible know all the endings?

Is this really all the evidence that we have our panties in a collective bunch over?

They extracted the files.

[Jackal7713]

Cor7ana wrote...

Obidex wrote...
Gonna go ahead and assume they haven't played through every possible way. Data mining can only do so much if a developer wants to keep something hidden. So if the strat says there is one I'm gonna go ahead and hope that is true.

I find it funny that people have managed to data mine in such a short time. This isn't NCIS where you've got Abby and McGee remotely controlling a suspect's computer within the hour. I'm not saying that this is the most diffuclt thing in the world, but I'd like to mention that there's no, "show me cool ****" button.

Thats why I'm holding out hope and not canceling my preorder. However, if this is indeed true, I have afeeling there are going to be many upset fans posting mad rage/ blogs etc. I think DA2 would look like GOTY in comparison.

Plus a Lost like ending would be a Epic Fail of originality

Modifié par Jackal7713, 29 février 2012 - 07:51 .

[Patriota125]

Sashimi_taco wrote...


I find that article to be supporting that the whole crew being stuck on a random planet thing to be fake. That would be the biggest "lost" thing ever. 

No. Lost never gave us answers. Mass Effect already did. Mass Effect never pull off things that they knew they wouldn't be able to explain with logic in the beggining. We've already been explained the Reapers motives and origin in ME2. What's there to answer? There's nothing else.

Looks like someone never put attention in neither Lost and Mass Effect. Lol. People, please, before you try to complain, THINK for a minute if your rant is going to be intelligent and coherent.

[Marta Rio]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

They extracted the files.

From the xbox version? 

[Prometheus75]

It looks like I will just have to pretend the series ended with ME2.

[Cor7ana]

ravenrena wrote...

Cor7ana wrote...

Obidex wrote...
Gonna go ahead and assume they haven't played through every possible way. Data mining can only do so much if a developer wants to keep something hidden. So if the strat says there is one I'm gonna go ahead and hope that is true.

I find it funny that people have managed to data mine in such a short time. This isn't NCIS where you've got Abby and McGee remotely controlling a suspect's computer within the hour. I'm not saying that this is the most diffuclt thing in the world, but I'd like to mention that there's no, "show me cool ****" button.

The pc version has leaked too and people have gone through it and these are the only endings.

You're a broken record, at this point, dear.

[Unit-Alpha]

Marta Rio wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

They extracted the files.

From the xbox version? 

Yes, it is possible. Difficult, but doable.

[snakeboy86]

I'm more or less at peace with the fact that the ending will be bittersweet, or even downright depressing . At this point the game is gold and what's done is done.

[Sashimi_taco]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Capeo wrote...

Cor7ana wrote...

Obidex wrote...
Gonna go ahead and assume they haven't played through every possible way. Data mining can only do so much if a developer wants to keep something hidden. So if the strat says there is one I'm gonna go ahead and hope that is true.

I find it funny that people have managed to data mine in such a short time. This isn't NCIS where you've got Abby and McGee remotely controlling a suspect's computer within the hour. I'm not saying that this is the most diffuclt thing in the world, but I'd like to mention that there's no, "show me cool ****" button.

The SEs came out days ago.  It doesn't take that long to data mine the game nor play it.  The SE guy said his first play through took 23 hours.

They only need to download Bink video and go through the movies folder to find all the important stuff.

Well, once he extracts the files from the disk.

What are you talkin about?