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#33226
Darth Garrus

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Mr. Priestly said that the material was collected weeks before the game was released. So, that was not just an early draft. Well, could be. But as the guy released it, it led me to believe that it means the final stage of development of the end. If so, there was no other ending developed.

Weeks? I guess, unless they began to work in a new ending after all this backlash, there were no plans for it. And this end is the real deal. As bad as it is...

#33227
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Hello,

I like many of you, have never posted in these forums before – I prefer to sit and listen, so speak. However, like many of you, my unhappiness and disappointment has spurred me to add to the discussion going on here. It’s the apparent belief on the part of Bioware that the ending created “lots of speculation from everyone” that I really have a problem with.

To begin with, the idea that everybody is, or should be, ‘speculating’ about the ending right now shows a remarkable lack of understanding. In order to speculate about something, you must first have a solid base to extrapolate from – an idea, or a truth that you understand and that makes sense. What people are doing at the moment is desperately trying to find some understanding where there is none to be had, because nothing about the ending as it stands makes any sense in relation to the contents of the game. Without that understanding it is impossible to speculate, because there is no basic understanding of an idea to expand upon: people are feeling empty because there is simply nothing there of any substance.

We don’t have this basic understanding to build on because, apparently, we simple video game consumers didn’t need to know the answers to any of the rather essential questions we would have asked. How can we speculate on anything when the material required to do so is something we didn’t need to know?

Secondly, the insidious implication that this lack of understanding is somehow the fault of us, the consumer. The fundamental truth here is that when information is being communicated, the onus is on the person doing to the communicating to make sure that their audience understands what they are trying to tell them. It is the job of Bioware as the creator of a video game, an interactive product, to communicate the ideas behind and in the game to us effectively, so we can understand and enjoy the product. When a huge number of your consumers, from all ages, levels of education, nations and language groups simply don’t understand what you are trying to say to them, then it is your failure, not ours.

Finally, ending a trilogy that people cherished and invested in with a dialogue box saying ‘congratulations you beat the Reapers, now buy DLC’ is bordering on obscene, and is an insult to our intelligence.

Thanks.

#33228
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Benirus wrote...

People4Peace wrote...

Benirus wrote...

Please read this!!!


Chris Priestly wrote this over at http://social.biowar...5/index/9999272

I have shut off posting to this ENTIRE forum so people see this response.

The rules here WILL be obeyed. We do not allow swearing or the swearing or abuse of staff or moderators here. Anyone seen doing this will be banned from this site.

The app that has caused this controversy IS NOT FROM BIOWARE. Stop yelling at us for making and charging you for an app. We did not make this it was done by Geoff Keighley. When I reopen this forum you are welcome to discuss the content in teh app in a rational manner.

I cannot comment on it as I have not downloaded or seen the app yet.

This forum will reopn soon once everyone has seen this.


And for the record Chris, please post this in the threadnaught or make a new forum topic next time, you scared the crap out of us :D
Also we should stop posting the note, it only causes more harm to our cause!

AND REMEMBER: Keep it civil people! I know alot of people are panicing and are frustrated right now, but hold it together!

HOLD THE LINE!


I am still having problems with the charity's site. Can someone give me the latest number? Thanks!

Numbers are at 49,159.78 USD.

Bumping this so it doesn't get lost in the radio chatter after coms went out:D

#33229
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Bubi7 wrote...

Ossborn76 wrote...

I don´t know if this has already been posted, (this thread grows faster than I can read), but you have to check out Casey´s Wikipedia-article (especially under his picture and "games")

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Casey_Hudson

yes, and it's childish and unecessary.


Someone fixed it. I feel relieved about that. That could have made bad things even worse.

#33230
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Annaleah wrote...

Dudemanley wrote...

ok time to spoil everything in the game now that we can again:


shepard dies


Also Bruce Willis was a ghost

and Rosebud was a sled

and Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father


Titanic sunk.

#33231
Bubi7

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Dudemanley wrote...
ok time to spoil everything in the game now that we can again:
shepard dies

Captian Obvious is obvious.

#33232
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TobiTobsen wrote...

KHReborn wrote...

---------------------------------------------------EMERGENCY---------------------------------------------

PEAPLE PLEASE STOP THE VANDALSM ON CASEYS ARTICLE ON WIKIPEDIA

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That all falls back on us. Thats not the message of our movements.

I know it seems funny and a lot will see it as that. And its not our way.

I beg you. Stop this.

So far HOLD THE LINE


I agree.

I'll repeat what I've already posted in another thread in agreement with this post. We need to keep it polite and civilized. Attacks on BioWare must stop. They will lead us nowhere. We are all disappointed and frustrated, but that's because we love the games and the universe around it. Keep that in mind and hold the line.

#33233
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I had been out for an hour and must have missed some stuff. Glad to see that my account didn't have a heart attack and I can still post. Unhappy to hear that the forum was momentarily disabled because of language. Swearing is not needed to make a point. Find other ways to convey your thoughts.

Hold the line

Modifié par Dj14365, 15 mars 2012 - 09:29 .


#33234
Mr Chr15topher

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You all know the mission and what is at stake
I have come to trust each of you with my life
But I have also heard murmurs of discontent and I share your concerns
We were trained for great endings
We would be legends
But the records are sealed
Glory in battle is not our way
When Bioware gave us a terrible ending, we held the line
When Gabe knocked us, we held the line
When big gaming companies called us whiners, we held the line
Our influence will bring us great endings!
In our stand today
WE WILL HOLD THE LINE!!!

#33235
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SSV Newcastle back in the fight and standing by for orders.

#33236
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N7 Force Recon Detachment Echo, back from com-failure, holding the line.

#33237
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KHReborn wrote...

---------------------------------------------------EMERGENCY---------------------------------------------

PEAPLE PLEASE STOP THE VANDALSM ON CASEYS ARTICLE ON WIKIPEDIA

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That all falls back on us. Thats not the message of our movements.

I know it seems funny and a lot will see it as that. And its not our way.

I beg you. Stop this.

So far HOLD THE LINE


Co-signed. This is not all right. It reflects badly on all of us. STOP IT.

#33238
Welsh Inferno

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DJ Shepard wrote...

we really are nearly at 50,000 dollars for Childs Play. Wow


It really is awesome. Makes me proud, kinda.

#33239
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Thalandor21 wrote...

Go play multiplayer, it's fun and always ends in +credits and +experience and unlocks. Always a happy ending !


Unless you get the random "all your class and weapons got removed" bug, which just happened to me. Hardly a "happy ending".

#33240
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Cele89 wrote...

What a relief to see Chris saying that app wasn't bioware, I almost lost hope in the endings :D


The app wasn't bioware but I'm pretty sure the information was still true, Chris just didn't want people going crazy over "BIOWARE IS CHARGING US FOR ENDING CONFIRMATION GRAAAAAAAAAAAAA".

#33241
Nilofeliu

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Annaleah wrote...

Dudemanley wrote...

ok time to spoil everything in the game now that we can again:


shepard dies


Also Bruce Willis was a ghost

and Rosebud was a sled

and Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father


No....
It.. can't...
be.... true...
Vader.... is... Luke... Father???
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Speaking of it, imagine if Vader told luke that he was Palpatine's son, instead of Vaders?? that would be the hell of a twist....

/Salute

#33242
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Bubi7 wrote...

Dudemanley wrote...
ok time to spoil everything in the game now that we can again:
shepard dies

Captian Obvious is obvious.


i give you this
http://qkme.me/3obvru

#33243
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Nilofeliu wrote...

Annaleah wrote...

Dudemanley wrote...

ok time to spoil everything in the game now that we can again:


shepard dies


Also Bruce Willis was a ghost

and Rosebud was a sled

and Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father


No....
It.. can't...
be.... true...
Vader.... is... Luke... Father???
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Speaking of it, imagine if Vader told luke that he was Palpatine's son, instead of Vaders?? that would be the hell of a twist....

/Salute


Or if he just fell off Cloud city after that scene.. That woulda sucked ;)

#33244
Dudemanley

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Annaleah wrote...

Dudemanley wrote...

ok time to spoil everything in the game now that we can again:


shepard dies


Also Bruce Willis was a ghost

and Rosebud was a sled

and Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father


you bastard

#33245
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Generic Name wrote...

Cele89 wrote...

What a relief to see Chris saying that app wasn't bioware, I almost lost hope in the endings :D


I wouldn't actually hope for a conclusive ending. The App basically said this is what they planned did it not?


A lot suspected that before doesn't change the fact that we demand a new one

#33246
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I always liked the concept of Shep as someone who inspired others and had the ability to make a difference in the galaxy. In ME3, that was all played out with some excellent missions that brought races together. Great fantasy and great gameplay... the stuff games are made of. ME3 was one of the best games I've played in twenty years of gaming.

Now... my character has wiped out the majority of intelligent life in the galaxy with the demise of the relays, subjected all his allies in the fleet to a slow and painful death from starvation, lack of resources and scramble for the last said resources, negating all his gains (Quarian/geth etc.. they are all dead anyway), seen his valued friends die for what appears to be no good reason and has been deserted by his loyal crew and LI.

 So, the last six years was for nothing.  sorry... not good gameplay... not even for art's sake

#33247
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Hold the line!

In the mean time probably enjoy this guy's comments on the end of me3:
www.youtube.com/watch

#33248
David Bergsma

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Messed up but I'm up, holding the line until the end.

#33249
Welsh Inferno

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http://www.change.or...acebook_friends

Vote. Nearly reached this poll's goal.

#33250
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Celemon wrote...

I always liked the concept of Shep as someone who inspired others and had the ability to make a difference in the galaxy. In ME3, that was all played out with some excellent missions that brought races together. Great fantasy and great gameplay... the stuff games are made of. ME3 was one of the best games I've played in twenty years of gaming.

Now... my character has wiped out the majority of intelligent life in the galaxy with the demise of the relays, subjected all his allies in the fleet to a slow and painful death from starvation, lack of resources and scramble for the last said resources, negating all his gains (Quarian/geth etc.. they are all dead anyway), seen his valued friends die for what appears to be no good reason and has been deserted by his loyal crew and LI.

 So, the last six years was for nothing.  sorry... not good gameplay... not even for art's sake


Welcome to the line Commander.  We're all hoping to make a difference too.  Requistion your weapon and report to Admiral Hackett for briefing! *salutes*