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#3351
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Even if the screenshot with the mass relays is not fake (looks legit to me), what does it prove? I can clearly see realy being destroyed - only that's one pic out of four. On all the other they just look loke they are caught up in something. And we even see Normandy getting out at the last moment full of badass.

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Patriota125 wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Honestly, dude, I gave you the proof and you ignored it. Not surprising from someone with your username, grammar skills, and use of GTFO repeatedly. Keep living in your fantasy world, I don't care.


No, i never ignored them. One of the supossed screenshots has been taken down and the other one is SUPER SMALL (suspicious isnt it?) and OBVIOUSLY fake.

I mean, c'mon, man.


It isn't leaked copies this stuff is coming from; ITS COMING FROM THE ACTUAL SPACE EDITION COPIES THAT BIOWARE AND EA SENT OUT.

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mulder1199 wrote...
i also find it a little hard to belive that all the choices lead to the same road, no matter what....


After DA2, you find this hard to believe!? Posted Image

#3354
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Elegana wrote...

Tietj wrote...

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Tietj wrote...
Well, yes, but he did extract the files and they seem to be the only endings.  But he's been wrong before, with the whole "MP is required" thing.  I may be getting them mixed up, but XIo is the one with the actual game; Tank is just a tester who was fired.  I'm not saying you're definitely wrong but it does seem as though these are the endings.  I'm not hugely disappointed but it's not the greatest news I could have heard either.


So who exactly extracted the files?

I've been reading Xio's early responses in the spoiler discussion group, where he seems like he's very careful about the NDA.  Did he later do a total 180 and start going against the NDA?  Or is this someone else we're talking about?

Xio did.  And yes, he did start going against the NDA later on.  I've heard that other people extracted the files from the PC version but I have no idea if that's true.


How can they when it hasn't been cracked?


They don't have to play the game to get the cinematics.
Just locate them in the directory and play them in proper software.

#3355
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G3rman wrote...

Pretty sad that all the diehard naysayers really have nothing on their side except "This proves nothing."


It doesn't, or what does it proves? I just see explosions, a random star, the normandy and an awfully photoshoped picture with lots of reapers, the ascension and a lot of other ships. What does it prove? Nothing.

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G3rman wrote...

Pretty sad that all the diehard naysayers really have nothing on their side except "This proves nothing."


no, we have common sense on our side, and if i'm wrong i'll admit it when the 6th comes, until then all this is a load of crap to me

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Just checked, existing ME videos are in 720p.

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Dark Specie wrote...

mulder1199 wrote...
i also find it a little hard to belive that all the choices lead to the same road, no matter what....


After DA2, you find this hard to believe!? Posted Image

I liked DA2's ending.  At least as it related to Hawke and the other main characters, especially the LI

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sorry for double post, forums glitching like crazy

Modifié par Gexora, 29 février 2012 - 08:32 .


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Chromes wrote...

If I may, I still bare the hope for some good endings written using game engine. I went through some videos of ME2 in movies directory and some were missing like who died/survived the final mission at the end. As our decisions should play major role in endings (IMHO) maybe we'll get such good/bad endings in ME3 depending on our playthrough. Cinematics were done for those events that would be equal for all decisions, but specifics were made on game engine (assumption).
Though I would say that inevitable destruction of relays is bad for me, and the fate of Normandy...


Yeah, we'll have to wait and see. The things in the videos are certainly there. But like you said, in ME2, both the good and bad endings (except from the Collector Base Approach, which had different videos depending on the upgrades) used the same footage in-between right? But the running,jumping,falling, etc. was all in-game engine.

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Patriota125 wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Patriota125 wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Honestly, dude, I gave you the proof and you ignored it. Not surprising from someone with your username, grammar skills, and use of GTFO repeatedly. Keep living in your fantasy world, I don't care.


No, i never ignored them. One of the supossed screenshots has been taken down and the other one is SUPER SMALL (suspicious isnt it?) and OBVIOUSLY fake.

I mean, c'mon, man.


Except both work and neither of them are small.:huh:


Yes, they're small, why can't we get them full sized? Well ive always played the game in 1080p not in whatever the small size they are.


Oh, I see. They're too small for you. The rest of us with somewhat average eyesight(and in my case less than average) they're just the right size.

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Dark Specie wrote...

mulder1199 wrote...
i also find it a little hard to belive that all the choices lead to the same road, no matter what....


After DA2, you find this hard to believe!? Posted Image



I know, right. 

And people called me silly or paranoid for saying that the railroad plotting of DA2 was a bad sign of things to come for ME3 and beyond from Bioware.

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G3rman wrote...

Pretty sad that all the diehard naysayers really have nothing on their side except "This proves nothing."



Or there actually people who need more solid evidence to believe in anything? How dare they?

Btw what does that screen prove exactly? I'm not saying that the alleged endings leaked are false, however it does not prove that they are the only endings possible or anything tbh.

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Again, did anyone of the leakers mentioned that ending videos show the squad members, crew or even shepard?


There is no ending cinematics with crew members except Joker, and Shepard (male/female).
If you wish, you can see the list of cinematics here:
http://pastebin.com/Jgy4QPgr
But probably nobody saw the game engines' movies that should explain the situation.

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Sorry, double post.

Modifié par Chromes, 29 février 2012 - 08:37 .


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Tietj wrote...

Dark Specie wrote...

mulder1199 wrote...
i also find it a little hard to belive that all the choices lead to the same road, no matter what....


After DA2, you find this hard to believe!? Posted Image

I liked DA2's ending.  At least as it related to Hawke and the other main characters, especially the LI


it wasn't that bad but it was meh, it could have gone a lot deeper with what happened afterwards with your party members rather than just being so vague.

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Unit-Alpha wrote...

Just checked, existing ME videos are in 720p.

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Could you give me a link or your lying again?.

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Oh, I see. They're too small
for you. The rest of us with somewhat average eyesight(and in my case
less than average) they're just the right size.


They're small. Why can't we get full size screenshots. It's because it's fake and that's that.

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MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Patriota125 wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Patriota125 wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Honestly, dude, I gave you the proof and you ignored it. Not surprising from someone with your username, grammar skills, and use of GTFO repeatedly. Keep living in your fantasy world, I don't care.


No, i never ignored them. One of the supossed screenshots has been taken down and the other one is SUPER SMALL (suspicious isnt it?) and OBVIOUSLY fake.

I mean, c'mon, man.


Except both work and neither of them are small.:huh:


Yes, they're small, why can't we get them full sized? Well ive always played the game in 1080p not in whatever the small size they are.


Oh, I see. They're too small for you. The rest of us with somewhat average eyesight(and in my case less than average) they're just the right size.


another imagehoster

http://www.image-col...47744-YneT6.jpg
http://www.image-col...30490241609.jpg

the 2nd is clearly one of the vids we seen (for example the x-play video yesterday)


Chromes wrote...

Garrus30 wrote...

Again, did anyone of the leakers mentioned that ending videos show the squad members, crew or even shepard?


There is no ending cinematics with crew members except Joker, and Shepard (male/female).
If you wish, you can see the list of cinematics here:
http://pastebin.com/Jgy4QPgr
But probably nobody saw the game engines' movies that should explain the situation.



if thats so than that doesn't prove anything that the endings are basically the same lol
that's just so :lol: :lol: :lol:

and how can Shepard be in one of the vids, he's customizable.
it would be weird if you play with your own shepard and see the default one :facepalm:

yeah the leaked source is really trustworthy :whistle:

Modifié par Garrus30, 29 février 2012 - 08:44 .


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Cor7ana wrote...

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Hmmm...wonder what incited the new Code of Conduct rules?

Bet if I looked in here I could find it.

classy.

The legal team probably finished their updated CoC version in light of the Jennifer Helper incident.

Because, you know, "personal attacks on staff."

What is happening to her is just wrong on so many levels. I'm glad Bioware is doing somethingto protect their employees, etc. People need to be civil in when expressing dissatisfaction. There is no reason for personal attacks.

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Tietj wrote...
 
I liked DA2's ending.  At least as it related to Hawke and the other main characters, especially the LI


Right, Hawke could always walk away with his/her LI, at the very least. But no matter what you did, the ending amounted to the same thing, more or less.

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Rakia Time wrote...

G3rman wrote...

Pretty sad that all the diehard naysayers really have nothing on their side except "This proves nothing."


no, we have common sense on our side, and if i'm wrong i'll admit it when the 6th comes, until then all this is a load of crap to me


I didn't realize not believing people who had the game was common sense.  For being part of the community you really don't trust anybody.

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gog you obviously dont know about Celticbrony from youtube a man that purposely became a brony just to troll everyone to death and it was for along time to until he was doxed allegedly
trust me trolls can devote their entire life to troll as to why i have no idea

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Patriota125 wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Just checked, existing ME videos are in 720p.

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Could you give me a link or your lying again?.

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Oh, I see. They're too small
for you. The rest of us with somewhat average eyesight(and in my case
less than average) they're just the right size.


They're small. Why can't we get full size screenshots. It's because it's fake and that's that.


Alright, you're a troll. We've all snagged, 7/10. Now, back onto the matter at hand.

#3374
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Killjoy Cutter wrote...

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The thing is, the Reapers really weren't set up as some unstoppable threat. Consider:

Sovereign got its own stupid ass killed. Furthermore, it couldn't directly assault the Citadel itself to begin the new cycle because the Citadel fleet posed a significant threat to it. It needed the Geth and Saren, because it couldn't just sweep one Council fleet aside on its own. The Fifth fleet destroyed Sovereign, even after having an all-out slugfest with the Geth, despite the Alliance being the weakest in numbers and technology among the major players in Council space. Heck, why even waste its time with the Geth? Just have Saren walk into the Council chambers one fine afternoon, cap the Council and activate the Citadel relay -- no need to worry about the beacons, Cipher, Mu relay, Ilos or the Geth feint at all, because apparently Saren didn't even need the Prothean command program or knowledge of what the Protheans did and how, at all considering Saren didn't even make an attempt to contact Vigil.

That's before the Council races get their hands on the "super-advanced Geth ship" and reverse engineer it to advance their own military technology god only knows how far. Like, for example, the three plot-critical Normandy upgrades, one of which is explicitly stated to be from reverse-engineered from Reaper tech and the other two heavily implied to be as well -- that came from Turian and Quarian sources and not just Alliance or Cerberus. And the Alliance got their hands on the SR-2, reverse engineered it and got access to that tech, too. Just in case we want to pick nits about who has access to what tech, when and how.

Harbinger was just smart enough to be genre savvy, but not genre savvy enough to seal the deal by, say...self-destructing the Collector ship while Shepard was aboard and just writing it off as an acceptible loss.

It's firmly established by Vigil the Reapers' primary strengths are surprise and subterfuge. Well, those two elements are pretty well out the window. Outside that, all the Reapers really have going for them is strength in numbers, because they're obviously not remotely as smart or powerful as they're made out to be.

And, how is the Crucible and Guardian in any way not a deus ex machina? Pulling from Wikipedia here out of sheer laziness, a deus ex machina "is a plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem is suddenly and abruptly solved with the contrived and unexpected intervention of some new event, character, ability, or object." That's...pretty much the exact definition of deus ex machina, to the letter.


I agree competely. 

But Bioware evidently wanted the Reapers to be Lovecraftian spacegods that could only be stopped through plot contrivance. 

Severely hurts the whole thing. 


Yup, that's the thing that hacks me off most of all. The Reapers simply aren't the Ultimate Galaxy-Ending Unstoppable Threat they're made out to be, but still powerful enough it takes the entire galaxy rising as a single community to overcome it, otherwise everyone dies. That's a good, solid resolution to the main story that plays off previous choices made and gives meaning and depth to Shepard's exploits, challenges and setbacks over the course of the trilogy. Nope, it's gotta be about the eleventh hour plot coupons.

It amazes me more people aren't hacked off about that contrivance, and instead harping incessantly about the Normandy's crew (all three of them that have any real significance to anyone or anything) and whether Shepard gets post-Reaper nookie with their space waifu.

#3375
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Unit-Alpha wrote...

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So um maybe it's just me but it sounds like while stuff happens to the relays it isn't bad in every ending


Might want to reread that Pastebin file.

Yeah I read it, it sounds like something happens but it's hard to tell if it's good or bad.