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Computim wrote...
KRAETZNER wrote...
Reaper Shepherd: "This forms pain is irrelevant."
Sounds almost Hanar lol..
Which reminds me, Anyone else listen to the entire Blasto movie dialog on the advertising board? Or was it just me dying laughing the entire time?
wow totaly all this i dont think i could have said it any better i tip my hat to youShatterhand1701 wrote...
This will no doubt get lost in the flood of comments already on this thread, and it's not really anything that hasn't been said by anyone else in some form or another...but it comes from my heart, the heart of a Mass Effect fan that feels an ache that no one has been able to soothe. I'm grieving right now; I'm feeling actual grief over this. Crazy, right? I should seek help. Get outside, get a life, all those other happy-horsesh*t comments smartasses like to throw at gamers and geeks alike...I'm probably worthy of them all. But that changes nothing.
Mass Effect has become more than just a series of video games. It's a fully-realized universe, rich in diversity, culture and history. It is the best or the worst of us and a study in how those facets of our souls can impact the reality we live in. It's a story with characters we come to care about so much that we depict them in artwork or writing. We weep when they suffer or die, and we cheer when they achieve a victory against the odds. It may seem silly to some that we'd care so much for fictional characters, but their personalities, their triumphs and tragedies were powerful and deep and they touched us. We were given this amazing gift by a series of artists and writers who wanted to show us something new, something that would steal our hearts and captivate our minds. As much as we so want to hate Bioware right now...and believe me, they've made it easy enough...we're still in their debt for bringing this amazing universe to our lives.
That, above all else, is why the endings debacle stings so deeply. They take such a fascinating and heart-tugging story of hope and success against the odds and rend it to tatters with three choices that still bring us tragedy and heartbreaking loss. There's no final feeling of victory, no hope or joy from the knowledge that this universe will prevail despite all the destruction. There's not even the bittersweet knowledge that the ultimate sacrifice had to be made in order to save a galaxy. We're left with a gaping maw of confusion, doubt, fear, loss, and hopelessness. Our hero is either dead or lost, allies are scattered, worlds are decimated and the hero's shipmates are castaways. There's nothing but despair.
Many want to call people like the ones posting here "entitled whiners", saying that we have no business demanding anything from Bioware, or that we're hiding our selfishness and feelings of entitlement behind a charity to rodeo-clown our critics away. We've been told we "don't get it". I'll admit, I was one of those people at first. I thought it was wrong of the players to leak the endings, to spread their anger all over the forums before March 6 and that they were poisoning the rest of us with rampant negativity. But I get it now; I truly do. And let me tell you, so do the rest of us. We understand it all too well, and that's why it hurts so badly, and that's why we rage. It's not so much that WE deserve better. MASS EFFECT DESERVES BETTER.
This was supposed to be the final act, the culmination of years of storywriting, animation, voice-acting, digital design, programming...it was to be a masterpiece. And you know what? A lot of it was. ME3 had its "Um, what?" moments, but honestly (and I think many of us can agree on this), 95% of this game was pretty frakking awesome. The ending should've blown us away with something truly epic and amazing, something we'd be talking about for years to come...but in a positive, "how cool was that?!? I want MORE!!!" way. We expected those choices we made and sometimes even agonized over to steer us to something that satisfied all the feelings we got from making them. We were given the chance to love someone, to have a soulmate to turn to when we were weary from the spilt blood and the spent thermal clips, and we wanted that romance to blossom into something beautiful and long-lasting if we so chose.
Well...we sure were 'blown away', and we're definitely talking about it...all the while feeling betrayed, robbed, and heartbroken. It's not right. I don't even know if anything can make it right. The people we relied on to give us an epic finale to an epic tale failed us in the most unbelievable way, and anything they may do now to fix it will be only because we rallied loudly and forcefully enough. THEY DIDN'T CARE ENOUGH TO GIVE IT TO US THE FIRST TIME. We had to "hold the line", to create a movement. We had to DEMAND. It should never, EVER have been that way.
This is why I grieve. Mass Effect deserved better.
Aeyl wrote...
I was just thinking about the endings again, and I still cannot accept that they are real
Control is exactly what TIM was (unsuccessfully) trying to achieve, while Synthesis is what Saren represented. Why would Shepard just decide to give in to the philosophies of her two greatest non-reaper enemies? And when Saren and TIM presented their respective ideas of how to deal with the reaper threat, Shepard always reacts with, "What the heck are you talking about you indoctrinated fool."
Gah! This is why we need new endings! The current ones make no sense on character-integrity level as well. Sigh.
DifferentD17 wrote...
Ashtarth1 wrote...
People4Peace wrote...
CirusTheVirus666 wrote...
Keep up the good work everyone! Hold the line! and don't forget : http://retakemasseff...ect-childs-play
$51,000!!! lets go for 100k?
Hell yes! I think we can do it!! We have until April 11th right?
April 11th is Commander Shepard's Birthday.
Why is there a set date?
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Hydralysk wrote...
Computim wrote...
KRAETZNER wrote...
Reaper Shepherd: "This forms pain is irrelevant."
Sounds almost Hanar lol..
Which reminds me, Anyone else listen to the entire Blasto movie dialog on the advertising board? Or was it just me dying laughing the entire time?
I don't think I'll ever be able to think "This one is tired of your solid waste excretions" without laughing.
Jimmie_Rox wrote...
Annaleah wrote...
My therapist says I need to spend more time away from these forums because they keep my negative feelings festering... I suppose I can distract myself with one of my favorite ga-
OH WAIT!
^This.
KaiserinKai wrote...
People4Peace wrote...
DifferentD17 wrote...
Cro730 wrote...
First post.
Created account just to express feelings on the ending of mass effect 3.
I was very disapointed.
All I wanted was to have a happy ending with Tali.
I love you Tali.
That is all.
A lot of people just want an ending with some closure at least.
Lets' keep fighting for buidling a home on the homeworld!
For the Blue Babies!
To give Garrus some peace.
And Turian, Human and/or Krogan adopted babies......
Yes! Let his relationship with Femshep be the thing that finally goes right, he deserves it!
Guest_Dominus Solanum_*
Ampmaster wrote...
Hey all, just a suggestion but let's stop posting/following/finding/sharing links to the haters. The gaming "journalist" articles especially. All it's gonna do it get us riled up and hitting them with some hate. Not to mention it gives them views/hits. Let's not give them money, they aren't saying anything we haven't heard any way.
Ashtarth1 wrote...
DifferentD17 wrote...
Ashtarth1 wrote...
People4Peace wrote...
CirusTheVirus666 wrote...
Keep up the good work everyone! Hold the line! and don't forget : http://retakemasseff...ect-childs-play
$51,000!!! lets go for 100k?
Hell yes! I think we can do it!! We have until April 11th right?
April 11th is Commander Shepard's Birthday.
Why is there a set date?
http://masseffect.wi..._Shepard#Trivia
From the wiki:
Shepard's birthday (April 11) is the same day that Apollo (an American attempted manned moon landing mission that almost ended in disaster) was launched (April 11, 1970).
Edit: copied wrong factoid.
Computim wrote...
I wish Mystery Science Theatre was still around.. I'd love to see their take on the ME3 ending ;P
Mara Shep wrote...
Ok, so I can finally post (took ages to resgister ME3 on here) and vent to someone, as none of my friends have finished the game yet, and I may explode soon. All my fiancée knows is that I spent two days going from crying, denial, numbness, anger, to vague acceptance, and then anger again.
So this is what I wrote to Bioware in an email that sums up how I feel (warning, LOTS of text!):
To Whom This May Concern,
I am not entirely sure who to send this to, so if this is the wrong email, please could you forward it to the appropriate people - maybe the writing and development team?
Mass Effect as a series has blown me away, way, way beyond I would think possible with a game - the characters, plot, location, Shepard him/herself. The writing and development of the series has been that good, that I felt I was actually in that universe, actually being Shepard. Creating a world like that takes great skill, talent, and dedication, and you must obviously listen to your fan base. For Mass Effect 3, the development of the relationship with Garrus and Shepard was beyond amazing, jaw droppingly so. It was like the writers got inside my head and wrote it how I imagined it to be, it was unbelievable. As I played through, I could feel the desperation to succeed, wanting not just to save the Galaxy, but that so Garrus, Liara, Tali, et al could be happy and have a future. I was emotionally invested with them, and it was an amazing experience getting to feel that.
The scene with Thane in the hospital was tragic and touching, and Mordin's last scene sad, but I could handle that, as the way he sang to himself was the way I thought he would have wanted to go. It was like "it is what he would have wanted."
The last moments with the team were the most heartbreaking, well written scenes I have gone through - better than any film I have ever seen, better than any game I have ever played.
Then in the last 10 minutes, it actually felt that that world was being ripped from me. Sounds extreme, but many other fans can vouch for this feeling too. It wasn't so much that we had to make a choice, it was that I personally couldn't believe that there was no middle ground choice (bearing in mind no DLC has been released yet), there was no spark of light at the end of the tunnel. Ignoring what happens to Shepard herself, the outlook for the crew is a horrible realisation, stuck on a planet with no Relays, no ship, no seeming way of getting off.
And that is what hurt the most - the lack of closure. You don't know what happens to them, you wonder how the team members that were with you got to be on the Normandy, you don't get the future you had hoped. I remember thinking back to ME2 and when my Shepard is talking to Liara, and saying I want Garrus to have peace. You don't know if he, or any other player's romantic interest's, get peace. You don't know what happens to any of them, the galaxy, Earth, after the War.
So, even if the future DLC can't give what many of us hope for (a Shepard that survives, who has a happily ever after with their love interest), please, at least give us a proper chance to say goodbye to the characters we love, to hear their thoughts on the way, to just know they have a future, to acknowledge that Shepard is not with them. I think that would do it for me, just a simple talk between characters, rounding everything up. Garrus meeting up with his dad and sister, Tali going back to her home planet finally, Javic making peace with himself, etc.
The final scene just didn't give me closure, and I think that, after the massive build up in the prior scenes, was what was the disappointment was. I didn't get to properly say goodbye to the most amazing trilogy I have ever experienced, which has so much of me put towards it. Emotionally devastating is the only way I can think of expressing it.
So, if you could at least acknowledge this, maybe just reply, put out a statement, post of the forums, anything to give us fans hope.
Still, thank you for the adventure.
and more time is the only thing i can hope for with a new ending.Major Swift wrote...
same hereCro730 wrote...
First post.
Created account just to express feelings on the ending of mass effect 3.
I was very disapointed.
All I wanted was to have a happy ending with Tali.
I love you Tali.
That is all.
Tali: I want more time
yea so did i tali, so did i.......
Guest_AshleyMadelineWilliams_*
Dominus Solanum wrote...
Yeah, I would have killed for a DA:O style ending. There were a number of things about the war assets that bothered me, namely, a vast majority of them not showing up. Would it have been so bad to see the lone volus dreadnought ruining a reaper's day? The batarians finally doing something useful other than being self righteous slavers? A hanar jacking up a husk on Earth?
I think in my mind I was expecting something LIKE DA:O only far grander with echoes of every choice I'd ever made in ME. Hell, I wouldn't even care if my Shepard died if this happened. That's what happened to my elf in DA:O and that was a pretty good send off. For ME I assumed they would pull out all the stops and I'd be treated to a long farewell cutscene as a tribute to the great ride we had.
Heh. Ignorance is bliss.
Damazig wrote...
Help me out here guys, did I also dream this part up or?
What happened to the part where I as Shepherd land on CORN FIELDS (not in london), start kicking husks ass with Makos and Hammer hovercrafts, while the NORMANDY and a fighter squadron fight some reapers in earths atmosphere (doesn't just go back to space with the main armada)? all this during DAY TIME (not night).
Any of this ring a bell? or was I indoctrinated?
help me out here people.
Damazig wrote...
Help me out here guys, did I also dream this part up or?
What happened to the part where I as Shepherd land on CORN FIELDS (not in london), start kicking husks ass with Makos and Hammer hovercrafts, while the NORMANDY and a fighter squadron fight some reapers in earths atmosphere (doesn't just go back to space with the main armada)? all this during DAY TIME (not night).
Any of this ring a bell? or was I indoctrinated?
help me out here people.
Ashtarth1 wrote...
http://masseffect.wi..._Shepard#Trivia
From the wiki:
Shepard's birthday (April 11) is the same day that Apollo (an American attempted manned moon landing mission that almost ended in disaster) was launched (April 11, 1970).
Edit: copied wrong factoid.
Computim wrote...
I wish Mystery Science Theatre was still around.. I'd love to see their take on the ME3 ending ;P
You expected too much from PR material, joke's on you there. Not saying that I dont wish it was there.Damazig wrote...
Help me out here guys, did I also dream this part up or?
What happened to the part where I as Shepherd land on CORN FIELDS (not in london), start kicking husks ass with Makos and Hammer hovercrafts, while the NORMANDY and a fighter squadron fight some reapers in earths atmosphere (doesn't just go back to space with the main armada)? all this during DAY TIME (not night).
Any of this ring a bell? or was I indoctrinated?
help me out here people.
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