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The_Canadian_Dragon

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RussianOrc wrote...

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Ivon wrote...

Just when I was starting to feel better.

 

:crying:


So it looks like your two squad mates are 'suppose' to die. :(


Wow, if I ever play ME3 again, I am not bringing my LI into the end run with me.

Bring EDI she technically imortal.

Good choice. Now I just need one other person... I'd miss any of them if they died (was horrified earlier in the game when my choices led to the destruction of the Quarian fleet and Tali's suicide), but its just a matter of who I'd miss in the least.

On an odd note, Garrus and Javik were with me in the end (I sensed a sacrifice coming and was hoping Javik would be a substitute, and I wanted my LI with me just in case for a last tearful goodbye), yet on the planet later it was actually Garrus and James that walked out of the Normandy. Most people seem to get the two people who were with them in the end run.

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Cro730 wrote...

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First post.
Created account just to express feelings on the ending of mass effect 3.
I was very disapointed.
All I wanted was to have a happy ending with Tali.
I love you Tali.
That is all.

same here
Tali: I want more time
yea so did i tali, so did i.......

and more time is the only thing i can hope for with a new ending.
for you as well as all other Tali lovers  
certainly not the best ending I would want (obviously I would want to live and be with her), But moving nonetheless


Making me cry again, shame on you.

When she said "You're real. Real...and mine" I don't know if i could have said anything to that.

#34303
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Bravo Xelv88!!! Bravo!!!

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Computim wrote...

I wish Mystery Science Theatre was still around.. I'd love to see their take on the ME3 ending ;P


I posted a link to what looked like a fan made reaction of Mystery Science 3000 ;)  they were not impressed;  let me find it.....

Hilter
Shepards Reaction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkCj9Z2ewLM   There we go MST 3000 reaction.......not impressed :D

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Yeah good call. If your two squad mates are supposed to die then bring EDI. Even if the body was destroyed shed still be alive in the Normandy... well unless you pickmy cinnamon flavored space magic...

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silencemayday wrote...

 and with this fubar piece of work the svv sae/austria/graffiti signs off. 
**** vectors. **** illustrator. but hail to marauder shields. 

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I'm positive this link has been posted before but I hadn't seen it so I'm resharing. This article has been my absolute favorite so far and sums up exactly how I feel about the endings. IMO, it's very well written despite the seemingly aggressive title.

www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3-ending-hatred-5-reasons-the-fans-are-right/

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DifferentD17 wrote...

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Well now that's its become clear they always intended this fiasco of an ending to be the ending I can move on in my grieving process and just try to salvage a decent ending in my own head and leave it at that. I think the only good thing that came out of it as the whole mass effect community coming together and creating so many funny moments out of this fiasco. I've enjoyed them a lot more then I enjoyed the ending.


How has it become clear? Sorry I just got on a little while ago.


It hasn't.  Final Hours is an app that was not put out by bioware, but some people unfortunately believe it's canon.  Bioware vehemently denied that it was part of anything important, so...


Oh it has deleted scenes on it right? I saw the scene where the two you take with you die. That just feels like they're punishing you... lol


Yeah but we kinda assumed the squadmates were dead when the "No one made it" message is played on the radio. And though it would suck at least it makes more sense than them teleporting onto the Normandy.

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vrumpt wrote...

So after today i feel pretty helpless. I feel like a dagger has been thrust into the heart of all my hopes and desperations. I don't know what to say really, with the fact that they intended for this to be the actual ending being revealed i'm almost too shocked for words.


When i was in Viet nam, we had an F-100 need to make an emergency landing. now, the airbase where i was at doesnt have a runway long enough to land an F-100, buit there was little choice. So he came in and sure enough, at the end of the runway he carreened straight ahead, ran over a small truck with five men in it, , skidded down the beach and up ended in the south china sea.   walked past that truck just a couple hours later. it had been flattaaened to only a couple inches thick, bodies included..
not everything we do will leave us with a good feeling. not everything we do will strike as yet another blow from justice being done, but, we choke it down, we pick up our feet, and we keep moving ahead. And no, i will never be able to foget that scene, no matter how much i'd like too.. 
Hold the line folks. it isnt easy, but it can be worthwhile.

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Happy birthday Shepard.... have some ending DLC?

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Xelv88 wrote...

Hello ME community,

Before I begin, I’m sorry this post turned out longer than I
intended.  Please feel free to skip it if
you don’t want to read it, I won’t hold it against you.

Like many of you, I’ve been reading these posts since early
in the movement, sympathizing and finding some comfort in similar experiences.  Also like many others, this will be my first
post on these forums.  I wasn’t
originally going to bother re-posting sentiments others had expressed better
than I could, but I’d like to take a moment to stress an angle that seems to
not be as common concerning the issue at hand.

First, as some brief background context, I am not exactly a
supporter of the “video game player entitlement” movement.  When the “day one DLC” rage spilled onto the
internet, I was one of the people who lined up against it.  It’s Bioware’s game, they can decide what’s
core and what’s peripheral, even if you disagree.  To extrapolate this more generally, I do
indeed believe in an artist’s right to make his art whatever he wants.  An author can kill off a character I loved in
an epic novel series – I’ll be upset and probably disagree that it was the best
thing for the book, but that’s the author’s vision.  George Lucas wants to weaken Darth Vader’s
character in his latest round of movie refinement?  Hey, I think it’s ridiculous, but it’s his
creation to ruin.  Bioware wanted to make
their second installment in a great series (DA) more of a personal focus that
inherently requires too much content recycling? 
Clearly they don’t understand what their fans want, but hey, they are
entitled to make their game the way they want to.

For all those examples, it’s OK in my mind because there’s a
pretty big separation from the creators of art/entertainment and the partakers.  As a video game player, I’m inherently on the
outside – I’m invited to experience the end result, think of it what I will,
and move one.

Mass Effect was different. 
And not only because unlike the other examples I truly felt invited into
the experience as opposed to simply being on the outside looking in.  No, the troubling situation of this game’s
ending goes beyond the rich universe and the compelling characters that drew me
in.  It goes beyond how they allowed us
to make the series our own with decisions big and small, only to have so much
choice removed at the end.

What really makes this whole situation a betrayal is the
fact that they knew us.  Bioware not only listened to the community its
masterpiece had formed, but they actively listened to its feedback and
incorporated it into the game. 

Did I need to hear three “calibrations” jokes in the first
10 minutes of having Garrus onboard the Normandy?  No more than I needed a bro-tastic excursion
with everyone’s favorite sharpshooter that prominently featured one of the
community’s favorite memes, but you damned well better believe I loved it.  We didn’t need the community’s fantasy EDI/Joker romance to be brought
to life in an almost too-cliché, yet oh-so-amusing, way; nor did we need a
Conrad cameo making light of one of Bioware’s more perplexing bugs from
ME2.  None of this was necessary.  But they knew we would smile, so they put it
in.

But it’s more than just fan pandering that showed me how
well Bioware understood me.  My favorite
example is my Shepard’s conclusion of the Geth/Quarian conflict.  They knew my Shepard would want to save the
Geth and the Quarians both.  They knew I’d
let Legion do his upload.  They knew my
heart would race as the upload ticked up, with Tali’s desperate pleas making me
doubt if I was going to be able to fix it all in the end after all.  They knew I’d smile with pride as my Shepard
shouted down centuries of hatred with pure Paragon conviction, saving the day
at the last minute.  And they knew my
heart strings would be pulled with Legion’s final “Keelah se’lai”.  Bioware played me like a fiddle, because they
knew me.

And it wasn’t just that one instance; it was every damn part
of this near-perfect game.  Looking back
it’s almost painful to see how perfectly the writers nailed it every step of
the way.  And in that last, brilliantly
crafted forward operations base area, as every conversation created a lasting
memory, I defy you to tell me that Bioware didn’t understand what its
community, what I wanted out of this
game.

That is why the ending they gave us constitutes more than
just something for overly-entitled fans to whine about.  Hell, I’ll be honest, I even kind of like the
“indoctrination theory” take on the ending, it makes for a decently thought-provoking
and subtle-ish end to a sci-fi epic. 
That is entirely beside the
point.  You cannot know your fans as well
as the rest of the game proves and not know the ending we wanted.  Bioware, you cared about us enough to make
the whole game a perfect walk between pure fan-service and a wonderful
manifestation of your own artistic vision. 
You cared, damn it – we can tell. 
And then at the last minute, you stopped caring and decided to give us something
you clearly really liked, but that you knew
we wouldn’t.  You knew many of us wanted
to choose hope, fulfilling victory at great cost, and a self-determined future
for this beloved universe you let us craft with you.  And you just didn’t care.  That's why this happens to hurt the community, and fans like myself, more than you might expect.

You see, Bioware, it’s not the ending itself that makes this
such a big deal for us.  It’s that you clearly
knew the kind of ending we would want, knew how much it meant to us, and you decided to deny it.  It’s that simple.

And if any Bioware employee should actually read this,
please know this:

I will not forget how close you let me come to having a truly memorable video game experience years in the making, only to stop caring about your fans at the final
moment.

And I WILL hold the line.


Welcome to the fleet, report to Admiral Hackett for debriefing.  Vote in the poll and give to the charity if you can (links in my sig)

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FinalEndeavor wrote...

silencemayday wrote...

 and with this fubar piece of work the svv sae/austria/graffiti signs off. 
**** vectors. **** illustrator. but hail to marauder shields. 
*snip*


i love you


Ok I really feel dense but I think I missed how the Marauder shields joke came to be... I don't quite get it. Can anyone explain it to me?

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Jacob Meyer‏@the_effing_wiz
@masseffect This One ponders how the spherical apparatus for sporting events could be so easily released in regards to ME3's ending.


ROFL.. Translation for those who don't get it right away: He wonders how they could drop the ball so easily in regards to the ME3 ending.

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LittleDeadGirl wrote...

I am watching MST3K right now to make me happy.


My favourite still has to be "The Thing that could not Die" followed closely by "Attack of the The Eye Creatures"

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SkaldFish wrote...

Ivon wrote...

Just when I was starting to feel better.

 

:crying:


So it looks like your two squad mates are 'suppose' to die. :(

...and then magically reappear stepping off the Normandy, I suppose, as BOTH mine did.  <_<


Same here I took Ashley (LI) and Javik...they both stepped off the Normandy in mine

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Xyalon wrote...

Cro730 wrote...

Major Swift wrote...

Cro730 wrote...

First post.
Created account just to express feelings on the ending of mass effect 3.
I was very disapointed.
All I wanted was to have a happy ending with Tali.
I love you Tali.
That is all.

same here
Tali: I want more time
yea so did i tali, so did i.......

and more time is the only thing i can hope for with a new ending.
for you as well as all other Tali lovers  
certainly not the best ending I would want (obviously I would want to live and be with her), But moving nonetheless


Making me cry again, shame on you.

When she said "You're real. Real...and mine" I don't know if i could have said anything to that.

I was trying to hold the tears but the last minute... was too much

Modifié par Cro730, 16 mars 2012 - 01:36 .


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Ivon wrote...

People4Peace wrote...

RussianOrc wrote...

The_Canadian_Dragon wrote...

Ivon wrote...

Just when I was starting to feel better.

 

:crying:


So it looks like your two squad mates are 'suppose' to die. :(


Wow, if I ever play ME3 again, I am not bringing my LI into the end run with me.

Bring EDI she technically imortal.


But they teleport back to the Normandy and someone on twitter (Jesscia or the people at ME) said they can't discuss this yet. So I think there is more to it.

But just in case I would bring your least favorite squad mates. I am redoing that scene because I brought Garrus and no way do I want to risk that. So I'll bring EDI (I am picking Destroy anyway) and James (newest one to the party). I thought about bringing Prothy....good way to go out against a Repear but he is the last of his kind and I just couldn't do it. Too bad I couldn't bring Chobot on that run....


lol, I'll probably James and Ashley (for sure her; hate her).


You guys never know if that scene was meant only for people that didn't have enough EMS. Maybe...

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Hydralysk wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Alamandorious wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

LittleDeadGirl wrote...

Well now that's its become clear they always intended this fiasco of an ending to be the ending I can move on in my grieving process and just try to salvage a decent ending in my own head and leave it at that. I think the only good thing that came out of it as the whole mass effect community coming together and creating so many funny moments out of this fiasco. I've enjoyed them a lot more then I enjoyed the ending.


How has it become clear? Sorry I just got on a little while ago.


It hasn't.  Final Hours is an app that was not put out by bioware, but some people unfortunately believe it's canon.  Bioware vehemently denied that it was part of anything important, so...


Oh it has deleted scenes on it right? I saw the scene where the two you take with you die. That just feels like they're punishing you... lol


Yeah but we kinda assumed the squadmates were dead when the "No one made it" message is played on the radio. And though it would suck at least it makes more sense than them teleporting onto the Normandy.


Yeah, I was flabberghasted when they ended up on the normandy. They won't give me a happy ending because it's "hokey" but they will magically ressurect the two people that died beside me or at least were critically injured  safely and well back on the normandy in time for them to land on magic island? Very high art indeed ...

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Xyalon wrote...

LittleDeadGirl wrote...

I am watching MST3K right now to make me happy.


My favourite still has to be "The Thing that could not Die" followed closely by "Attack of the The Eye Creatures"


There have been so many good ones, hard to choose lol.

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Annaleah wrote...

FinalEndeavor wrote...

silencemayday wrote...

 and with this fubar piece of work the svv sae/austria/graffiti signs off. 
**** vectors. **** illustrator. but hail to marauder shields. 
*snip*


i love you


Ok I really feel dense but I think I missed how the Marauder shields joke came to be... I don't quite get it. Can anyone explain it to me?


That last Marauder you fight before the beam of light?  That's him; the unsung hero...Marauder Shields.  He tries to stop you from seeing the horrible, horrible ending.

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Annaleah wrote...

FinalEndeavor wrote...

silencemayday wrote...

 and with this fubar piece of work the svv sae/austria/graffiti signs off. 
**** vectors. **** illustrator. but hail to marauder shields. 
*snip*


i love you


Ok I really feel dense but I think I missed how the Marauder shields joke came to be... I don't quite get it. Can anyone explain it to me?


 ;)

and thank you final endeavor.
not remotely finished, but at least i'll sleep better now :> 

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MeldarthX wrote...

Computim wrote...

I wish Mystery Science Theatre was still around.. I'd love to see their take on the ME3 ending ;P


I posted a link to what looked like a fan made reaction of Mystery Science 3000 ;)  they were not impressed;  let me find it.....

Hilter
Shepards Reaction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkCj9Z2ewLM   There we go MST 3000 reaction.......not impressed :D


Here's another Hitler one. I like it because the characters fit perfectly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ESYWgKptJQ 

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Alamandorious wrote...

Annaleah wrote...

FinalEndeavor wrote...

silencemayday wrote...

 and with this fubar piece of work the svv sae/austria/graffiti signs off. 
**** vectors. **** illustrator. but hail to marauder shields. 
*snip*


i love you


Ok I really feel dense but I think I missed how the Marauder shields joke came to be... I don't quite get it. Can anyone explain it to me?


That last Marauder you fight before the beam of light?  That's him; the unsung hero...Marauder Shields.  He tries to stop you from seeing the horrible, horrible ending.


Ah-ha! I had a feeling that was it but I wanted to make sure.

#34324
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Annaleah wrote...

FinalEndeavor wrote...

silencemayday wrote...

 and with this fubar piece of work the svv sae/austria/graffiti signs off. 
**** vectors. **** illustrator. but hail to marauder shields. 
*snip*


i love you


Ok I really feel dense but I think I missed how the Marauder shields joke came to be... I don't quite get it. Can anyone explain it to me?


Here you go
 

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Ampmaster wrote...

*snip*.

Also someone suggested to me in a PM that perhaps bronies would be able to tell us what the hell happened with the ending given their high level of exposure to "magic" (LSD is my theory... but whatever boats your float) but  a little research confirms that even magical sparkle ponies are left confused and distraught by the space magic ™ of ME3's ending

*ohgod!nottheponies!snip*


:innocent:


NO!
Just NO!
Please stop this right now!

If I start thinking about the ME3 ending every time I watch that show, I'm going to kill myself. The ending ruined Mass Effect for me, I don't want it to ruin...
:blink:
I mean: What the hell is a bronie?

Modifié par julian08, 16 mars 2012 - 01:55 .