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People4Peace

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Major Swift wrote...

Xyalon wrote...

Cro730 wrote...

Xyalon wrote...

Cro730 wrote...

Major Swift wrote...

Cro730 wrote...

First post.
Created account just to express feelings on the ending of mass effect 3.
I was very disapointed.
All I wanted was to have a happy ending with Tali.
I love you Tali.
That is all.

same here
Tali: I want more time
yea so did i tali, so did i.......

and more time is the only thing i can hope for with a new ending.
for you as well as all other Tali lovers  
certainly not the best ending I would want (obviously I would want to live and be with her), But moving nonetheless


Making me cry again, shame on you.

When she said "You're real. Real...and mine" I don't know if i could have said anything to that.

I was trying to hold the tears but the last minute... was too much


Then I can assum that you were as outraged as I was that you saw Liara as a flashback instead of Tali? No offence to Liara, she's nice enough, but my heart was set on Tali from when I first met her.

that was the final nail in the coffin for me, i figured id see her in the flashback at least, thought it might be a bug, found out it wasnt then went from mad to sad, and yea same here with tali, ever since ME 1


WAIT?! It's not a bug? :o Wow...I...I thought it was.....I just DON'T understand that! <_< And I never will because I doubt they will explain that.

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Just a quick question:

Am i supposed to, at some point, meet with Thane during my playthrough?
I'm asking, because, so far i haven't found him anywhere, and i've already finished the Thessia mission ?_?

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People4Peace wrote...

Bravo Xelv88!!! Bravo!!!


This!  Definitely this!!  Xelv88 post is on pg 1373.  Everyone please read it.  Don't know how to link and I figured it'd be too long to quote.

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laughing sherpa girl

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Alamandorious wrote...

Again, just for the benefit of those who missed the initial request in the flood of posts, please do not keep reposting massive images; it could get the thread shut down.

We don't want that. Best to link the pictures.


Apologies. I did try to cut the pics from my reply, but i wasnt able too..  Not sure why..

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I've already posted this, but just so other people can read (if they want) and know that they're not alone.

My thoughts.

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cotheer wrote...

Just a quick question:

Am i supposed to, at some point, meet with Thane during my playthrough?
I'm asking, because, so far i haven't found him anywhere, and i've already finished the Thessia mission ?_?


He should have sent you an email asking you to meet at the hospital if you had time. I think. . . already purging the game from my memory so I may be wrong.

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cotheer wrote...

Just a quick question:

Am i supposed to, at some point, meet with Thane during my playthrough?
I'm asking, because, so far i haven't found him anywhere, and i've already finished the Thessia mission ?_?


I think you missed your shot. Earlier in the game you'll get a message from him and you cann meet him near one of the windows in the Hospital.

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https://twitter.com/...469794259218434

How is that true? Saren says a bunch of times how he wants organics to join with the Reapers and that a mix of flesh and steel is the future and all that jazz.

Modifié par Welsh Inferno, 16 mars 2012 - 01:51 .


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cotheer wrote...

Just a quick question:

Am i supposed to, at some point, meet with Thane during my playthrough?
I'm asking, because, so far i haven't found him anywhere, and i've already finished the Thessia mission ?_?


He should've been at Huerta Memorial Hospital fairly early in the game..... Even sends you a message, not sure why you didn't get.

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Anyone else have any thoughts on the Liara/Shepard final 'coupling' (if you went with Liara as your LI). I kinda went into it thinking "Gift... hrm.. something to fight the reapers indoctrination?" and the whole galaxy zoom thing... foresight of coming events...etc dunno..

Very likely just nothing, (...crap I sound like Mordin here hahaha).. still interesting though.

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cotheer wrote...

Just a quick question:

Am i supposed to, at some point, meet with Thane during my playthrough?
I'm asking, because, so far i haven't found him anywhere, and i've already finished the Thessia mission ?_?


Omg, he should be dead by then! :blink:

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Cro730 wrote...

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Then I can assum that you were as outraged as I was that you saw Liara as a flashback instead of Tali? No offence to Liara, she's nice enough, but my heart was set on Tali from when I first met her.

I just figured the flashback was a general one for your crewmates. I was at least somewhat happy to see that Tali survived the reaper beam (cause i brought her on the final push) and landed on the random planet. At least shes alive. Now my shepard needs to get up from the rubble and find her


Hate to burst your bubble but assuming it's a planet without dextro protein food she'll starve to death pretty quick. And I'm guessing those suits aren't meant for long term protection with no replacement parts, so death by infection is the other option if she doesn't starve (in which case all non-turian/quarian crew will starve in their place).

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cotheer wrote...

Just a quick question:

Am i supposed to, at some point, meet with Thane during my playthrough?
I'm asking, because, so far i haven't found him anywhere, and i've already finished the Thessia mission ?_?


The hospital. But wait, isn't this after the Citadel getting attacked by Cerburus, shouldn't Thane be....

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Yeah I'm all tired out... I'm going to go to bed and as with every night for the past week... (it has pretty much been a week since I beat the game) I will hope and pray that there will be better news in the morning...

Peace

Hold the line.

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laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Alamandorious wrote...

Again, just for the benefit of those who missed the initial request in the flood of posts, please do not keep reposting massive images; it could get the thread shut down.

We don't want that. Best to link the pictures.


Apologies. I did try to cut the pics from my reply, but i wasnt able too..  Not sure why..


No worries; I've done it at least once (was the picture of reaper shepard directing harbinger in the reconstruction of the relays), but we really have to keep this down to a minimum; this thread is open because everyone here is being very civil, and very good about obeying site rules.

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In response to someone a few pages back about the EMS thing...

That is one new concept I absolutely loathe. I don't want to have to make pre determined specific choices and metagame to get a good ending. While this concept is entirely subjective, If I remain true to the inherent theme of the game through my character development and choices, *that* is what ought to earn the good ending imo. I should not have to kill x so my future war assets will be higher when not doing so would fit the goals the story has been leading me towards. I should not have to say I better not buy this, this and this so I'll max resources on my imported save etc.

I should be able to look at the game presented to me, make the choices that seem fitting to the story they setup for me and enjoy a good reward for having made that struggle.

The thing for me is, I'm playing an RPG. My roleplaying should be what matters, not min maxing. That takes all the fun out of the story imo.

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Annaleah wrote...

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For the love of god please don't bring MLP into this. Has all this not become hell enough? x_x


haha, I was wondering when someone was going to bring MLP into this...and make the situation even worse...<_<


-beats head on desk-


MLP?

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Xelv88 wrote...

Hello ME community,

Before I begin, I’m sorry this post turned out longer than I intended.  Please feel free to skip it if you don’t want to read it, I won’t hold it against you.

Like many of you, I’ve been reading these posts since early in the movement, sympathizing and finding some comfort in similar experiences.  Also like many others, this will be my first post on these forums.  I wasn’t originally going to bother re-posting sentiments others had expressed better than I could, but I’d like to take a moment to stress an angle that seems to not be as common concerning the issue at hand.

First, as some brief background context, I am not exactly a supporter of the “video game player entitlement” movement.  When the “day one DLC” rage spilled onto the internet, I was one of the people who lined up against it.  It’s Bioware’s game, they can decide what’s core and what’s peripheral, even if you disagree.  To extrapolate this more generally, I do indeed believe in an artist’s right to make his art whatever he wants.  An author can kill off a character I loved in an epic novel series – I’ll be upset and probably disagree that it was the best thing for the book, but that’s the author’s vision.  George Lucas wants to weaken Darth Vader’s character in his latest round of movie refinement?  Hey, I think it’s ridiculous, but it’s his creation to ruin.  Bioware wanted to make their second installment in a great series (DA) more of a personal focus that inherently requires too much content recycling?  Clearly they don’t understand what their fans want, but hey, they are entitled to make their game the way they want to.

For all those examples, it’s OK in my mind because there’s a pretty big separation from the creators of art/entertainment and the partakers.  As a video game player, I’m inherently on the outside – I’m invited to experience the end result, think of it what I will, and move one.

Mass Effect was different.  And not only because unlike the other examples I truly felt invited into the experience as opposed to simply being on the outside looking in.  No, the troubling situation of this game’s ending goes beyond the rich universe and the compelling characters that drew me in.  It goes beyond how they allowed us to make the series our own with decisions big and small, only to have so much choice removed at the end.

What really makes this whole situation a betrayal is the fact that they knew us.  Bioware not only listened to the community its masterpiece had formed, but they actively listened to its feedback and incorporated it into the game. 

Did I need to hear three “calibrations” jokes in the first 10 minutes of having Garrus onboard the Normandy?  No more than I needed a bro-tastic excursion with everyone’s favorite sharpshooter that prominently featured one of the community’s favorite memes, but you damned well better believe I loved it.  We didn’t need the community’s fantasy EDI/Joker romance to be brought to life in an almost too-cliché, yet oh-so-amusing, way; nor did we need a Conrad cameo making light of one of Bioware’s more perplexing bugs from ME2.  None of this was necessary.  But they knew we would smile, so they put it in.

But it’s more than just fan pandering that showed me how well Bioware understood me.  My favorite example is my Shepard’s conclusion of the Geth/Quarian conflict.  They knew my Shepard would want to save the Geth and the Quarians both.  They knew I’d let Legion do his upload.  They knew my heart would race as the upload ticked up, with Tali’s desperate pleas making me doubt if I was going to be able to fix it all in the end after all.  They knew I’d smile with pride as my Shepard shouted down centuries of hatred with pure Paragon conviction, saving the day at the last minute.  And they knew my heart strings would be pulled with Legion’s final “Keelah se’lai”.  Bioware played me like a fiddle, because they knew me.

And it wasn’t just that one instance; it was every damn part of this near-perfect game.  Looking back it’s almost painful to see how perfectly the writers nailed it every step of the way.  And in that last, brilliantly crafted forward operations base area, as every conversation created a lasting memory, I defy you to tell me that Bioware didn’t understand what its community, what I wanted out of this game.

That is why the ending they gave us constitutes more than just something for overly-entitled fans to whine about.  Hell, I’ll be honest, I even kind of like the “indoctrination theory” take on the ending, it makes for a decently thought-provoking and subtle-ish end to a sci-fi epic.  That is entirely beside the point.  You cannot know your fans as well as the rest of the game proves and not know the ending we wanted.  Bioware, you cared about us enough to make the whole game a perfect walk between pure fan-service and a wonderful manifestation of your own artistic vision.  You cared, damn it – we can tell.  And then at the last minute, you stopped caring and decided to give us something you clearly really liked, but that you knew we wouldn’t.  You knew many of us wanted to choose hope, fulfilling victory at great cost, and a self-determined future for this beloved universe you let us craft with you.  And you just didn’t care.  That's why this happens to hurt the community, and fans like myself, more than you might expect.

You see, Bioware, it’s not the ending itself that makes this such a big deal for us.  It’s that you clearly knew the kind of ending we would want, knew how much it meant to us, and you decided to deny it.  It’s that simple.

And if any Bioware employee should actually read this, please know this:

I will not forget how close you let me come to having a truly memorable video game experience years in the making, only to stop caring about your fans at the final moment.

And I WILL hold the line.


I am speechless, I couldn't have said it anyway better myself. ^ This in my opinion is 100% the REASON why we feel this way. Thank you Soldier, carry on with the line.
/Salute

#34394
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Xyalon wrote...

Cro730 wrote...

Xyalon wrote...
Then I can assum that you were as outraged as I was that you saw Liara as a flashback instead of Tali? No offence to Liara, she's nice enough, but my heart was set on Tali from when I first met her.

I just figured the flashback was a general one for your crewmates. I was at least somewhat happy to see that Tali survived the reaper beam (cause i brought her on the final push) and landed on the random planet. At least shes alive. Now my shepard needs to get up from the rubble and find her


Hell, that's the only reason my Shepard chose destroy. He knew he was killing the Geth he helped free and ascend to true sapience. He knew he was killing EDI and Jokers love. He knew that the Quarians would have it rough without the Geth to help repopulate, but damed if he was losing Tali.

That's the only reason he's still breathing; and how much food which she can actually eat does she have left? It doesn't bear thinking about....

And the flashback is about your LI from ME1. When Liara told me in LotSB that she always knew Tali had a thing for me but wanted me for herself, well. I never forgave her.

That's why i chose destroy as well. Tali is mine and no reaper or god-child is going to take that.
Interesting point about the flashback being your LI from mass effect 1... I didnt import my ME1 to ME2 so technically i didn't have a LI. I picked tali in ME2 though.

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KaiserinKai wrote...


Not really, you could always just restart. I mean if they fixed the endings the game would be perfect and in that case who wouldn't want to replay it?


What's the point in replaying it when you're just going to replay it the exact same way? :huh:

I can't dis-associate my true self and play the opposite.

Only thing I would do is change it so I go and TURN IN the missions on the Citadel before it gets altered (after Cerberus Attack). Still needed to do the Hanar Diplomate and That [name] Von for the Shadow Broker assets.


...need to remember to make a 'hard save' and not just rely on Quick and Auto saves for the final mission ^_^

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Cro730 wrote...

First post.
Created account just to express feelings on the ending of mass effect 3.
I was very disapointed.
All I wanted was to have a happy ending with Tali.
I love you Tali.
That is all.


Thanks for posting.  Welcome to the fleet.  *hugz*

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Generic Name wrote...

cotheer wrote...

Just a quick question:

Am i supposed to, at some point, meet with Thane during my playthrough?
I'm asking, because, so far i haven't found him anywhere, and i've already finished the Thessia mission ?_?


He should have sent you an email asking you to meet at the hospital if you had time. I think. . . already purging the game from my memory so I may be wrong.

no you are right, think it was like before the genophage missions/during them when you get the email, perhaps even before then i cant remember

#34398
Xyalon

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Oh, and for those who missed it earlier, and just to lighten the mood, I had a little fun with @masseffect twitterbot.

Here

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I admire the persistence, and the faith and what not, but at this point?

Its like somthing Garrus said, right now, theres only blind optimism.... and i, like him, hate being blind....

The saddest thing yet, is to know that, by the end, every last one of you will be ignored, this whole ending fiasco will be swept under a very massive rug, and BW will move on without such an amazing part of the community.

I salute you Shepard, you fought your hardest, you took us on amazing rides, laughs, tears, some spectacular engaging moments never before seen on a videogame, only to end like this, you will always be remembered as the ending you were given, RGB, not for your other deeds.... and you deserved better.

This is your legend, and its tainted forever, so long BW, kinda hope you burn for this, courage people, im outta here.

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I'm signing off. Hold the line guys, we're still in the game.

Did we achieve a new ending with it?

To quote the begiining from Command & Conquer: Red Alert

"Time will tell
sooner or later
time will tell."

Good night all.