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#3451
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blueruin wrote...

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Man, this forum really is comprised of hysterical rumor-mongering debbie downers.

Your posts are making me sympathize with the reapers and the extinction of the human race doesn't sound so bad anymore. I think I'm going to side with the reapers in my first playthrough THERE BETTER BE AN OPTION TO DO THAT BIOWARE OR PREORDER CANCELLLLLLLED


Well the problem is, that people reacted like this for Dragon Age 2. People like you then did what you just did.

Then all the hysterics turned out to be true.

DA2 was buggy as hell.
The levels were completely copy and pasted a half a dozen times each.
The choices didn't matter.
The promised auto-attack feature wasn't in the game.

Don't get me wrong, DA2 was still a fun game, but Bioware lied through their teeth about it, and the doom-sayers turned out to be right with what they said it was like.


I absolutely hated Dragon Age 2.  I'm lucky my pre-order was from Amazon so I had no trouble returning it and getting a full refund.  I do have the Mass Effect CE preordered though, and nothing I've seen so far gives me the impression that ME3 is going to be a disaster like DA2.

People have to keep in mind that there is probably more to the endings than the brief spoiler descriptions we've been given.  Mass Effect is a ridiculous space opera, and if you were to give a two line description for the major plot points and endings in ME1 and ME2, it would also sound pretty dumb.  Mass Effect's strength was always in its execution, and the videos and spoilers I've seen indicate it's going to be sweeping and epic and awesome.

Xiosite even said that he was very satisfied with the ending that he got in his short 23-hour playthrough.



You can return preorders to Amazon?

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Huh. Or potentially dead/alive squadmates, yes? Which at this point is pretty much all squadmates?

I think I need to get off of this thread before my head explodes.


In ME2, there were many different things (mostly squadmates living or dying and such) between the bink videos.

So we can have the same bink videos but quite a few things happening in-between in ME3 too?


My understanding is that none of the pre-rendered bink videos can have information which include player-choice-based variables (e.g. what your shep looks like, who's alive/dead, etc.). Is that right?

Yes, there is no such thing. Only relays destroied and Normandy, with Joker been the only one shown, tries to escape the explosition, but I'm not sure that it is blown up to pieces, it probably will depend on player choices. And another spoiler: remember in the thread of armor for Shep there was a torn one (probably the last one in the list), the video of probably alive Shen shows very similar armor without face but with N7 dogtag and the person starts to breath after several moments. Those are bink files.

Modifié par Chromes, 29 février 2012 - 09:24 .


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Mac Walter say's that post-game DLC would just be a boring wasteland.

So I guess the rumours are true. Everything's gone. Way too sadisitic for my taste man.

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Unit-Alpha wrote...

blueruin wrote...

Machines Are Us wrote...

blueruin wrote...

Man, this forum really is comprised of hysterical rumor-mongering debbie downers.

Your posts are making me sympathize with the reapers and the extinction of the human race doesn't sound so bad anymore. I think I'm going to side with the reapers in my first playthrough THERE BETTER BE AN OPTION TO DO THAT BIOWARE OR PREORDER CANCELLLLLLLED


Well the problem is, that people reacted like this for Dragon Age 2. People like you then did what you just did.

Then all the hysterics turned out to be true.

DA2 was buggy as hell.
The levels were completely copy and pasted a half a dozen times each.
The choices didn't matter.
The promised auto-attack feature wasn't in the game.

Don't get me wrong, DA2 was still a fun game, but Bioware lied through their teeth about it, and the doom-sayers turned out to be right with what they said it was like.


I absolutely hated Dragon Age 2.  I'm lucky my pre-order was from Amazon so I had no trouble returning it and getting a full refund.  I do have the Mass Effect CE preordered though, and nothing I've seen so far gives me the impression that ME3 is going to be a disaster like DA2.

People have to keep in mind that there is probably more to the endings than the brief spoiler descriptions we've been given.  Mass Effect is a ridiculous space opera, and if you were to give a two line description for the major plot points and endings in ME1 and ME2, it would also sound pretty dumb.  Mass Effect's strength was always in its execution, and the videos and spoilers I've seen indicate it's going to be sweeping and epic and awesome.

Xiosite even said that he was very satisfied with the ending that he got in his short 23-hour playthrough.



You can return preorders to Amazon?


DA2 was so bad that Amazon offered to take them as refunds.

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Sashimi_taco wrote...

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I REFUSE TO BELIVE THE GAME HAS THIS BAD ENINGS!!!

and i dont belive you gather all the war assets for nothing there is more to it
and the info we got is probably just som made up **** from the leaked script


I was in denial once too...there there, it's ok.  It gets easier, trust me <3


LMAO~ It does get easier to accept we're screwed no matter what. Yesterday morning I was hysterical, not I've resigned myself to the truth. It gets easier to accept people. 


It still doesn't make sense to me. Why would they have a build up for all the nice romances for the future just to shove it all in your face?


I have no idea. I'm playing Mass Effect 1 right now and I'm thinking if it's really worth the trouble to build my ideal Shep that will transfer to ME3 and if spending this much time trying to get everything perfect when in the the end the choices get taken away from us. I don't know. Getting to the end in ME3, it's gonna be something alright~

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Unit-Alpha wrote...

blueruin wrote...

Machines Are Us wrote...

blueruin wrote...

Man, this forum really is comprised of hysterical rumor-mongering debbie downers.

Your posts are making me sympathize with the reapers and the extinction of the human race doesn't sound so bad anymore. I think I'm going to side with the reapers in my first playthrough THERE BETTER BE AN OPTION TO DO THAT BIOWARE OR PREORDER CANCELLLLLLLED


Well the problem is, that people reacted like this for Dragon Age 2. People like you then did what you just did.

Then all the hysterics turned out to be true.

DA2 was buggy as hell.
The levels were completely copy and pasted a half a dozen times each.
The choices didn't matter.
The promised auto-attack feature wasn't in the game.

Don't get me wrong, DA2 was still a fun game, but Bioware lied through their teeth about it, and the doom-sayers turned out to be right with what they said it was like.


I absolutely hated Dragon Age 2.  I'm lucky my pre-order was from Amazon so I had no trouble returning it and getting a full refund.  I do have the Mass Effect CE preordered though, and nothing I've seen so far gives me the impression that ME3 is going to be a disaster like DA2.

People have to keep in mind that there is probably more to the endings than the brief spoiler descriptions we've been given.  Mass Effect is a ridiculous space opera, and if you were to give a two line description for the major plot points and endings in ME1 and ME2, it would also sound pretty dumb.  Mass Effect's strength was always in its execution, and the videos and spoilers I've seen indicate it's going to be sweeping and epic and awesome.

Xiosite even said that he was very satisfied with the ending that he got in his short 23-hour playthrough.



You can return preorders to Amazon?


Yeah, it's super easy.  Click on the order in your account and there's an option to return it and give a reason.  They approve it and then you print the shipping label.

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BobSmith101 wrote...

DA2 was so bad that Amazon offered to take them as refunds.


Hmm...

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Chromes wrote...

Marta Rio wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

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Huh. Or potentially dead/alive squadmates, yes? Which at this point is pretty much all squadmates?

I think I need to get off of this thread before my head explodes.


In ME2, there were many different things (mostly squadmates living or dying and such) between the bink videos.

So we can have the same bink videos but quite a few things happening in-between in ME3 too?


My understanding is that none of the pre-rendered bink videos can have information which include player-choice-based variables (e.g. what your shep looks like, who's alive/dead, etc.). Is that right?

Yes, there is no such thing. Only relays destroied and Normandy, with Joker been the only one shown, tries to escape the explosition, but I'm not sure that it is blown up to pieces, it probably will depend on player choices. And another spoiler: remember in the thread of armor for Shep there was a torn one (probably the last one in the list), the video of probably alive Shen shows very similar armor without face but with N7 dogtag and the person starts to breath after several moments. Those are bink files.


Which armor topic is that?
As for Joker trying to escape with the Normandy, well, that should have different bink files for "escape / didn't escape". Hm...

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Karimloo wrote...

Mac Walter say's that post-game DLC would just be a boring wasteland.

So I guess the rumours are true. Everything's gone. Way too sadisitic for my taste man.


Should have just let the cycle continue.

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At this stage I'll will give BW room to move - this thread alone has given BW a massive understanding of fan reaction over possible bad endings as the ONLY endings. No semi-sane business will deliberately destroy all the good will they built up over the years while expecting fans to stay with this franchise or even purchase add on content IF none of that effects any outcome. That's deliberate suicide - they're not the stupid!

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Shin-Anubis wrote...

*sigh* Curiosity killed the cat, i.e. me. If this really turns out to be true... Well, I always knew, I would be done with BioWare at some point. Guess my time has finally come after ME3.

I'll give them Command & Conquer Generals 2 (been waiting for too long for that game to not get it) then I think i'm going back to being lost in the linear path of FPS


Of course this is just what I say now.

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 29 février 2012 - 09:31 .


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I've seen other Origin pre-loads and all the important files were always packed/locked.

No way will the bink files be accessible on pre-load. That is one thing I can be 100% certain.


Yeah but note that it is an unlawful release we're talking about here. Who knows what has been unlocked? What I know is that it hasn't been cracked yet because it says so in the description. But if they did it for BF3, I wouldn't be surprised if it is done for ME3 even before the launch date.

I'm still not touching it before my N7 DDE pre order is available for me to d/l and play it. My only concern is that all endings are the same **** with small variations, replayability would be really low for me. Like DA2's. Even if I did seeked the same ending with all my more than 20 playthroughs in ME2, I was really wishing I could do many differents endings like I did in DA:Origins, also with more than 20 runs, only that each one is like double the time of a ME2 run.

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Karimloo wrote...

Mac Walter say's that post-game DLC would just be a boring wasteland.

So I guess the rumours are true. Everything's gone. Way too sadisitic for my taste man.

"Boring wasteland" could allude to what Earth could be after your ending. 

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the way i see it, mass effect 3 concludes shepard's trilogy, where the purpose is to destroy the reapers, which WILL be done. but it doesn't conclude the fictional universe, which is bigger than shepard and his/her LI. that for one. seccond, there will be DLC, and that's where i'm affraid that bioware will waste good ones just to "fix" and please the fans. no, don't fix it. let the overall thing end badly, because i see future games set in this universe where races build things up by themselves after destroying what the reapers done before. and, on a long therm, this would be even better than a happy-end for shepard's story.

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Karimloo wrote...

Mac Walter say's that post-game DLC would just be a boring wasteland.

So I guess the rumours are true. Everything's gone. Way too sadisitic for my taste man.


If everything ends in a wasteland, etc, etc... why even bother with the game? 

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albertalad wrote...

At this stage I'll will give BW room to move - this thread alone has given BW a massive understanding of fan reaction over possible bad endings as the ONLY endings. No semi-sane business will deliberately destroy all the good will they built up over the years while expecting fans to stay with this franchise or even purchase add on content IF none of that effects any outcome. That's deliberate suicide - they're not the stupid!

Ya I have faith in Bioware too. But the minute they release videos of the leaked endings I'm done. Hell, you could just take a crappy cell phone video and torrentize it. That is a little iffy to me.

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My only concern is that all endings are the same **** with small variations,


Very much could be like that (since it seems the DA2 haunting is back), but if I gave you the ME2 bink files from the suicide mission, would you be able to piece all outcomes?

Maybe we do get something better, maybe we don't. I'm trying to cling on hope here I know.

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Which armor topic is that?
As for Joker trying to escape with the Normandy, well, that should have different bink files for "escape / didn't escape". Hm...


No they don't have different bink files. There is one bink file for each of the three endings (blue, green, red) where Joker tries to escape. You can't actually see whether Joker succeeds in escaping or not but the Normandy takes heavy damage.

Modifié par Gandalf.lotr, 29 février 2012 - 09:37 .


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Carnage752 wrote...

albertalad wrote...

At this stage I'll will give BW room to move - this thread alone has given BW a massive understanding of fan reaction over possible bad endings as the ONLY endings. No semi-sane business will deliberately destroy all the good will they built up over the years while expecting fans to stay with this franchise or even purchase add on content IF none of that effects any outcome. That's deliberate suicide - they're not the stupid!

Ya I have faith in Bioware too. But the minute they release videos of the leaked endings I'm done. Hell, you could just take a crappy cell phone video and torrentize it. That is a little iffy to me.

I HAD faith in Bioware.... until DA2, TOR, the horrible plot in ME2, and the horrible novels and comics.

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I swear, if my Sheps can't have happy-tiems with friends, family, and their LI, I'm done with Bioware. I don't give a damn about the rest of the galaxy, the relays, or the Citadel: I did not invest days (hell, more like WEEKS) of my life into this series just to get screwed no matter what.
Pleeeease let these ending spoilers be the product of trolls. Don't think my poor desk and face could take handle it if this turns out to be true.

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Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

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My only concern is that all endings are the same **** with small variations,


Very much could be like that (since it seems the DA2 haunting is back), but if I gave you the ME2 bink files from the suicide mission, would you be able to piece all outcomes?

Maybe we do get something better, maybe we don't. I'm trying to cling on hope here I know.


Me too, brother, me too!

(PS.: It should read "IF all endings are the same...")

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Olueq wrote...

Carnage752 wrote...

albertalad wrote...

At this stage I'll will give BW room to move - this thread alone has given BW a massive understanding of fan reaction over possible bad endings as the ONLY endings. No semi-sane business will deliberately destroy all the good will they built up over the years while expecting fans to stay with this franchise or even purchase add on content IF none of that effects any outcome. That's deliberate suicide - they're not the stupid!

Ya I have faith in Bioware too. But the minute they release videos of the leaked endings I'm done. Hell, you could just take a crappy cell phone video and torrentize it. That is a little iffy to me.

I HAD faith in Bioware.... until DA2, TOR, the horrible plot in ME2, and the horrible novels and comics.

ME2 was fine to the majority, myself included, and I refuse to acknowledge DA2 due to it being a different team. We will find out in a week eh?

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Gandalf.lotr wrote...

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Which armor topic is that?
As for Joker trying to escape with the Normandy, well, that should have different bink files for "escape / didn't escape". Hm...


No they don't have different bink files. There is one bink file for each of the three endings (blue, green, red) where Joker tries to escape. You can't actually see whether Joker succeeds in escaping or not but the Normandy takes heavy damage.


So the Normandy's escape until we see it crash-landed is a cliffhanger?

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if the ending is as bad and in some way ruins the mass effect experience. and in my situasion wher my workplace got shut down and moved to china and i forced to work as a fisher witch i hate. and mass effect is the only intresting and good thing in my life and if bioware screws up i gather all my money and go join the army or marine core atleast that is a intresting life