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[Darkspazztic]

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

So I'd just like to point out that in my arguments in the Chris Priestly-started thread, someone just called Sir Arthur Conan Doyle a sellout.

These are the people who are arguing ME3 had a good ending.

Like I've said before, their opinion will only be valid if they can raise 50k for a charity in 2 & 1/2 days.

[VivaLaWhatsername]

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

So I'd just like to point out that in my arguments in the Chris Priestly-started thread, someone just called Sir Arthur Conan Doyle a sellout.

These are the people who are arguing ME3 had a good ending.

Wait....there are people who liked the ending? how is that possible?

Still holding the line, and I'm not going to retreat I found this thread and I intend to stay (For Kaidan <3)

[J.Random]

Unforgettable is one thing, unforgivable is another. Right now it's latter rather than former.

[Annaleah]

This may just be naive rambling.... but my father is an executive for an northeast grocery store chain. On the days of the week that he is home he usually talks to us about how much they work to make themselves appeal more to customers and for them to have the best shopping experience possible. (though you wouldnt know from the god awful ads they put on TV)
A thought occurs to me. If a customer bought say... a jar of store brand jam. They eat the jam and enjoy it immensely over the course of a few weeks until they reach the bottom of the jar only to find a human finger. (This never actually happened. Don't let it discourage you from shopping for store brand products!)
Anyway I know for a fact that the store would go out of their way to find out how it happened, pay for any damages, refund the customer (and basically anything to keep the customer from suing them) But the one thing they wouldn't do is defend the damn finger being in the bottom of the jar.

It's never too much to ask for customer satisfaction in the grocery industry... why can't it be similar in the video game industry? I mean, there is the whole artistic freedom argument and yes that is a decent argument to an extent but when you're alienating your customers and fans then you're not only hurting your company, you're hurting your own credibility.

I don't know it just seems strange...

[Gau]

Hold the line!

because of this bullsh|t:


also use this funny meme for "holding the line funniness support"

[malra]

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

So I'd just like to point out that in my arguments in the Chris Priestly-started thread, someone just called Sir Arthur Conan Doyle a sellout.

These are the people who are arguing ME3 had a good ending.

Well ... for them its really about the art. 

[Darkspazztic]

Annaleah wrote...

This may just be naive rambling.... but my father is an executive for an northeast grocery store chain. On the days of the week that he is home he usually talks to us about how much they work to make themselves appeal more to customers and for them to have the best shopping experience possible. (though you wouldnt know from the god awful ads they put on TV)
A thought occurs to me. If a customer bought say... a jar of store brand jam. They eat the jam and enjoy it immensely over the course of a few weeks until they reach the bottom of the jar only to find a human finger. (This never actually happened. Don't let it discourage you from shopping for store brand products!)
Anyway I know for a fact that the store would go out of their way to find out how it happened, pay for any damages, refund the customer (and basically anything to keep the customer from suing them) But the one thing they wouldn't do is defend the damn finger being in the bottom of the jar.

It's never too much to ask for customer satisfaction in the grocery industry... why can't it be similar in the video game industry? I mean, there is the whole artistic freedom argument and yes that is a decent argument to an extent but when you're alienating your customers and fans then you're not only hurting your company, you're hurting your own credibility.

I don't know it just seems strange...

Well...I *was* hungry.

[TheRisenStar]

ld1449 wrote...

For those of you pulling away, saying there is no hope. You're all just proving to yourselves that you were never really in this. You were supposed to be willing to *fight* that means overcoming adversity. That does not mean running away the moment adversity shows itself.

This campaign is to get them to *change* the ending. Not Yell and scream until they say *We had this planned all along here you go*

So they showed an App that said the crap ending that we got was intentional/unavoidable. Big ****ing deal. So Bioware says the ending is a piece of *art* again, big ****ing deal. We're all in this to *fight* for a changed ending. Not *find out if they're willing to give us one*

We're gonna MAKE em give us one, or at the very least make em hurt where it hurts the most if they refuse.

That's what it means to *hold the line* to stay standing here when **** hits the fan. Not to stand here when everything's fine flipping dandy and run away the moment you don't feel good anymore

I'm not giving up on the fight.  Free markets work.

What is annoying me, honestly, is the clinging to the indoctrination theory and the "BioWare intended this" crowd.  Look, we were shown through "The Final Hours" exactly what went on here... I understand the desire for hope, but it's a false hope.  These were the endings that were intended.  Face it. Recognize it. Focus the effort around it.  Dispense with any notions that hope will be realized by any other means than a concerted effort to bring market forces (consumer displeasure) to bear to have them amend this.

The indoctrination/hallucination thing just serves as a heat-sink for the ire that should rightly be directed at the developer for handing us a product that fails to provide what they promised it would.  It buys into the "Lots of speculation from everyone!" nonsense.

I don't mean this personally, but it's actually a good thing for Retake that the revelations came to be.

Modifié par TheRisenStar, 16 mars 2012 - 06:35 .

[B0rg1]

Europe signing in. Holding the line

[malra]

xHezz90 wrote...

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

So I'd just like to point out that in my arguments in the Chris Priestly-started thread, someone just called Sir Arthur Conan Doyle a sellout.

These are the people who are arguing ME3 had a good ending.

Wait....there are people who liked the ending? how is that possible?

Still holding the line, and I'm not going to retreat I found this thread and I intend to stay (For Kaidan <3)

boggles the mind don't it?

[Generic Name]

Annaleah wrote...
It's never too much to ask for customer satisfaction in the grocery industry... why can't it be similar in the video game industry? I mean, there is the whole artistic freedom argument and yes that is a decent argument to an extent but when you're alienating your customers and fans then you're not only hurting your company, you're hurting your own credibility.

I don't know it just seems strange...

We are sheep. Our opinions mean nothing. They only want our money (they have it).

Edit: I'm a fricken downer.

[Demonburnt]

Man this thread is huge hehe.

No submission!! Hold the line!!

[Spanking Machine]

Hold the line, my fellow Shepherds.

[wicked_being]

malra wrote...
you know, I can't be the only farscape /firefly fan in here.  both of those awesome shows got movies just to satisfy the fans need for some type of closure.  farscape did something really inventive when the letter writing campaign failed.  I'll see if I can find out what it was.......sadly I don't remember.

OMG. I just imagined my Shep standing in the crew lounge of the Normandy, with Liara holding their daughter. He points to the stars and says "this will be your playground."  *cries*

[Peete]

Estonian fleet loging back in.

Morning everyone.

Hold the line.

[IxSITHxI]

Everyone is so depressed...I know! I can cheer people up! It's a pretty quiet video so turn up your volume and near the end when Shep is asleep on the bed pay extra close attention. It's really funny unless you miss it. ENJOY

Paranormal Normandivity
www.youtube.com/watch

I say goodnight.

Hold the Line.

[FsDxRAGE_v2]

Does anyone have the picture of the rumored ME3 DLC?

[malra]

Annaleah wrote...

This may just be naive rambling.... but my father is an executive for an northeast grocery store chain. On the days of the week that he is home he usually talks to us about how much they work to make themselves appeal more to customers and for them to have the best shopping experience possible. (though you wouldnt know from the god awful ads they put on TV)
A thought occurs to me. If a customer bought say... a jar of store brand jam. They eat the jam and enjoy it immensely over the course of a few weeks until they reach the bottom of the jar only to find a human finger. (This never actually happened. Don't let it discourage you from shopping for store brand products!)
Anyway I know for a fact that the store would go out of their way to find out how it happened, pay for any damages, refund the customer (and basically anything to keep the customer from suing them) But the one thing they wouldn't do is defend the damn finger being in the bottom of the jar.

It's never too much to ask for customer satisfaction in the grocery industry... why can't it be similar in the video game industry? I mean, there is the whole artistic freedom argument and yes that is a decent argument to an extent but when you're alienating your customers and fans then you're not only hurting your company, you're hurting your own credibility.

I don't know it just seems strange...

Its not naive.  IN fact in a business program in a university they spend an inordinate amount of time trying to teach the role customer service plays in the business world now.  But that concept is easier to understand when the customer is standing in front of you holding the finger.  It is much different when you can excuse what you do by saying its "art" and you don't have to look your customer in the eye.  That is why the Cons should be interesting this year when they actually have to see ME fans face to face.

[IxSITHxI]

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

Does anyone have the picture of the rumored ME3 DLC?

Here ya go

www.gamefront.com/rumor-mass-effect-3-dlc-the-truth-due-in-april/

[gorgoth]

Annaleah wrote...

This may just be naive rambling.... but my father is an executive for an northeast grocery store chain. On the days of the week that he is home he usually talks to us about how much they work to make themselves appeal more to customers and for them to have the best shopping experience possible. (though you wouldnt know from the god awful ads they put on TV)
A thought occurs to me. If a customer bought say... a jar of store brand jam. They eat the jam and enjoy it immensely over the course of a few weeks until they reach the bottom of the jar only to find a human finger. (This never actually happened. Don't let it discourage you from shopping for store brand products!)
Anyway I know for a fact that the store would go out of their way to find out how it happened, pay for any damages, refund the customer (and basically anything to keep the customer from suing them) But the one thing they wouldn't do is defend the damn finger being in the bottom of the jar.

It's never too much to ask for customer satisfaction in the grocery industry... why can't it be similar in the video game industry? I mean, there is the whole artistic freedom argument and yes that is a decent argument to an extent but when you're alienating your customers and fans then you're not only hurting your company, you're hurting your own credibility.

I don't know it just seems strange...

When I first came here it was because the endings where
awful, but not its more for the consumer rights that seem to be denied to us
because where gamers. Any other industry would not have its critics telling the
customers to go shove it. It like where being violated in a prison shower and
are expected by the news agencies to get grateful for it.

Modifié par gorgoth, 16 mars 2012 - 06:40 .

[Ihatebadgames]

Holding the line.Art rhymes with *art and in some cases,can smell worse.

[ld1449]

Honestly, people if you need help holding the line I will gladly get Commissar Yarrick to get you back into place.

*Distantly heard* "I will whip the first one of you who retreats"

And that's probably before he decides to just flat out shoot you.

[Lozark]

It's almost midnight here in the Arizona fleet. Signing off for the night, be back at the front tomorrow.