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[sergeym1990]

There was thread there mentioning that sales of ME3 are already below ME1 on amazon. So i think it is clear that this whole mess is hurting EA financially. They quaetion is it enought for them to act?

[WvStolzing]

The appeal to 'artistic license' is sheer hypocrisy. Nothing more than a measly cover-up strategy for a product left unfinished for perfectly mundane reasons.

We're not stupid. Others may be trying to conceal their lack of comprehension, by appeal to a 'special' sort of 'intuition' that only they have.

We have understood very well, that we've been given an unfinished product.
We have a right to demand, that it be finished. At the very least because we paid the price for a complete game.

ok, time to go to bed.

Hold the line.

and honor the memory of M. Shields

[nitefyre410]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Adam-Sadface wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

San Diego fleet here, been holding the line since the sixth.

I may need some extra support soon, we're loosing hope.

I will NOT have you talk like that, there is always hope.  Hold the line.

We'll hold, don't worry.

Whatever it takes. 

 

Hold the line ... its going to get worst before it gets better but  Hold the line.. 

We can win this...

[Adam-Sadface]

vboy23 wrote...

SkaldFish wrote...

Is it just wishful thinking on my part, or does it seem like, on balance, we may be starting to turn a corner with the media? (feel free to say "what the !@&!# have YOU been drinking???")

For sure forbes has been fair with its articles, and there has been more Websites That at least keep an unbiased approach. It is just upsetting to see the popular gaming sites being crass and even downright insulting. (im looking at you gamespot and ign)

IGN's stance on this was the final straw for me with regard to them too.  They'd been testing my patience for some time but their self righteous snobbery means I will never bother with them again.  Off my ship Chobot, NOW!

[Necrotron]

baronkohinar wrote...

People feel that indoctrination has been proved wrong through coy BW Tweets and the Final Hours DLC. Still nothing conclusive either way (ie word from BW) tho.

Aye.  I haven't seen anything conclusive yet, although I may have missed something.

If I was Bioware, I would run with the idea and make a quick ending to the game using that as a jump-off point.  Might as well salvage the series and the customers/fanbase.

[VivaLaWhatsername]

Goodwood wrote...

Personally I preferred the "refuse the choice/it's another means of control/exhort the fleets to fight on"-type ending to the "zomg ur indoctrinated!" alternative.

Just my two pence.

I've got to say I don't particularly like the indoctrinatd theory, though it would be a better ending than the one we got.

[DBHErazor]

IGN and gamespot are such a joke, thank god for giantbomb and rockpapershotgun

[nitefyre410]

sergeym1990 wrote...

There was thread there mentioning that sales of ME3 are already below ME1 on amazon. So i think it is clear that this whole mess is hurting EA financially. They quaetion is it enought for them to act?

 

Money Talks and Bull**** walks 

That is one on of the fundemental facts of life...this bad press is hurting was suppossed to on of the big blockbusters  of year. 

Oh they notice it, they my not saying but they notice... the question is what they are going to do? 

Balls in their court now... they only thing we have to do is keep the pressure on them. 

[malra]

xHezz90 wrote...

 OK I just had a thought, the ending would have been OK if there was indeed other different endings, the fact is though that it ends the same way no matter what you choose, making the choices made through out the rest of the trilogy pointless (which many of you have stated already) I mean Shepard dying made me cry so much (but I am indeed a big softy and cry at lots of sad things) I even googled "how can I save my Shepard from dying" that was when I found out that the ending is the same no matter what. I then forced myself to replay it again (hearing about "the breath" Shepard gives at the end of the destroy option), I thought "maybe that will make me feel better"......I didn't get it, I don't even know why I didn't get it, all I got was more heart ache as my Shepard whom I worked my ass off to make a paragon and live through ME2, died all over again. Wasn't there supposed to be 16 different endings? what exactly are they?

I am not trying to gripe and I'm sorry if it seems that way but I really am curious on the last part "What exactly are the 16 different endings?"

As always I will Hold The Line.

there really aren't 16 differentendings.  just 16 variations on programing code and if/then loops.  but the endings are 3 and they are all essentially the same.  there is youtube video out there that demonstrates it pretty well, even IGN's own walkthrough points it out really, really well.  http://ie.ign.com/wi...ffect-3/Endings

[elirian_19]

The indoctrination theory might have been knocked down and crushed like an insignificant bug (similar to how our hopes and dreams were) but at this point I don't care. I'll headcanon it and ignore it because my brain just can't accept that the tripped up dream from hell was real and we never had the renegade interrupt option to shoot AI kid in the face.

[vboy23]

This has been Posted before, but as a reminder.

Sir Arthur Conan Doyle killed off Sherlock Holmes so he can concentrate on his non-fiction works. His fans petitioned him for almost 10 years, thats right, 10 years and this was way before the internet. Imagine all those letters. He "resurrected" Holmes and proceeded to make the other half of what has become a great literary classic.

In restrospect, we have had only a week. Our charity has over $50k in over 3 days. The letter campaign starts on the 17th. Though i doubt Bioware will wait 10 years, they have better give us a reasonable answer or they will be losing a lot of customers.

When a customer has a satisfying experience, they tell 3-4 friends, but if thu are unsatisfied they tell 10. With 40k people on the poll as a sample population, thats going to be 400k people being told of a bad product. Thats a lot of potenial income that's not easy to shrug off.


HOLD THE LINE!!!

[Apfelweinbrauer]

sergeym1990 wrote...

There was thread there mentioning that sales of ME3 are already below ME1 on amazon. So i think it is clear that this whole mess is hurting EA financially.

Is this just a rumor or confirmed information?

[Aztlanna]

It's absurd that this was supposed to make us think and be awed. It made me think, WTF just happened?? What did I do wrong? I reloaded in quick succession, choosing different options, and they were all basically the same. That's insane.

[Goodwood]

xHezz90 wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

Personally I preferred the "refuse the choice/it's another means of control/exhort the fleets to fight on"-type ending to the "zomg ur indoctrinated!" alternative.

Just my two pence.

I've got to say I don't particularly like the indoctrinatd theory, though it would be a better ending than the one we got.

I am of course referring to the type of ending that "should" be in the game. The one we got is nothing like either, of course.

Holding the line...

[Esker02]

Goodwood wrote...

Personally I preferred the "refuse the choice/it's another means of control/exhort the fleets to fight on"-type ending to the "zomg ur indoctrinated!" alternative.

Just my two pence.

I think that would be my favorite, as well. The indoctrination theorists have that Prothean VI that I don't think they can explain away, and with the behind the scenes stuff, it's clear that it was never intended to be an indoctrination sequence. I would love for there to be a fourth option wherein you activate the Crucible, perhaps not to its fullest extent or in some other manner that merely gives your fleets a fighting chance.

And from there, EMS takes over, giving the possibility of a LotR or RotJ style ending, provided you worked your tail off for all three games (but also giving the possibility of being completely obliterated and Reapers taking the cycle, if you weren't prepared at all). For all endings though, they need to rework the epilogue, or lack thereof.

[DBHErazor]

vboy23 wrote...

This has been Posted before, but as a reminder.

Sir Arthur Conan Doyle killed off Sherlock Holmes so he can concentrate on his non-fiction works. His fans petitioned him for almost 10 years, thats right, 10 years and this was way before the internet. Imagine all those letters. He "resurrected" Holmes and proceeded to make the other half of what has become a great literary classic.

In restrospect, we have had only a week. Our charity has over $50k in over 3 days. The letter campaign starts on the 17th. Though i doubt Bioware will wait 10 years, they have better give us a reasonable answer or they will be losing a lot of customers.

When a customer has a satisfying experience, they tell 3-4 friends, but if thu are unsatisfied they tell 10. With 40k people on the poll as a sample population, thats going to be 400k people being told of a bad product. Thats a lot of potenial income that's not easy to shrug off.


HOLD THE LINE!!!

Well spoken!

[Byakuren2009]

All I need it's an official annoucement by Bioware

[TumblingBumblebee]

I was wondering... outside this forum (and facebook/twitter) how's this protest's visibility?

[VivaLaWhatsername]

malra wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

 OK I just had a thought, the ending would have been OK if there was indeed other different endings, the fact is though that it ends the same way no matter what you choose, making the choices made through out the rest of the trilogy pointless (which many of you have stated already) I mean Shepard dying made me cry so much (but I am indeed a big softy and cry at lots of sad things) I even googled "how can I save my Shepard from dying" that was when I found out that the ending is the same no matter what. I then forced myself to replay it again (hearing about "the breath" Shepard gives at the end of the destroy option), I thought "maybe that will make me feel better"......I didn't get it, I don't even know why I didn't get it, all I got was more heart ache as my Shepard whom I worked my ass off to make a paragon and live through ME2, died all over again. Wasn't there supposed to be 16 different endings? what exactly are they?

I am not trying to gripe and I'm sorry if it seems that way but I really am curious on the last part "What exactly are the 16 different endings?"

As always I will Hold The Line.

there really aren't 16 differentendings.  just 16 variations on programing code and if/then loops.  but the endings are 3 and they are all essentially the same.  there is youtube video out there that demonstrates it pretty well, even IGN's own walkthrough points it out really, really well.  http://ie.ign.com/wi...ffect-3/Endings

Ah right I see, still disappointing. 16 endings should mean 16 different endings, not the same ending in three pretty colours. Thanks for explaining this to me though

[Reptilian Rob]

TumblingBumblebee wrote...

I was wondering... outside this forum (and facebook/twitter) how's this protest's visibility?

Pretty staggering, actually. It's being widely reported on all gaming news sites, including non-gaming sites. 

[ld1449]

Going to sleep. Need to sleep to keep holding line tomorrow

SSV Puerto Rico signing out for the night.

The line better be here when I get back.

[malra]

vboy23 wrote...

This has been Posted before, but as a reminder.

Sir Arthur Conan Doyle killed off Sherlock Holmes so he can concentrate on his non-fiction works. His fans petitioned him for almost 10 years, thats right, 10 years and this was way before the internet. Imagine all those letters. He "resurrected" Holmes and proceeded to make the other half of what has become a great literary classic.

In restrospect, we have had only a week. Our charity has over $50k in over 3 days. The letter campaign starts on the 17th. Though i doubt Bioware will wait 10 years, they have better give us a reasonable answer or they will be losing a lot of customers.

When a customer has a satisfying experience, they tell 3-4 friends, but if thu are unsatisfied they tell 10. With 40k people on the poll as a sample population, thats going to be 400k people being told of a bad product. Thats a lot of potenial income that's not easy to shrug off.


HOLD THE LINE!!!

also this http://www.craveonli...mer-entitlement

[Sett101]

wickermoon wrote...

MissNet wrote...

 I do my daily tour around internet. 
Metacritic and Amazon' s users rate ME3 pretty low.

I've seen those scores and as much as I hate the ending (which is alot), a rating of 3,7 is just idiotic and stupid and far from reality. And you know that to be true, because except for the ending and maybe the d1-dlc there's not much wrong with the game. So rate it 60-70% and get some attention. But this score is just non-credible.

With all the "review" sights acting like we should be shot for saying anything is wrong and for Bioware not saying "hey review guy shut up they might be mad but they are our mad fans" for the shilling that has and keeps happening I hope it stays that way. This is about way more then ME3 it's about not taking it from EA, Bioware, the "reviewers", I know it's about ME3 right now but this is setting an example for the next guy that thinks screwing gamers is a good idea.   here have some ,,,... .. .,,,!! I'm sure i missed a lot it 1 am almost.

[Gallion33103]

Byakuren2009 wrote...

All I need it's an official annoucement by Bioware

It would be nice, but the battle has only started it seems. Might go on for weeks.

Hold the line my friends. Im off to bed. No doubt when i check again this thread will be another 100+ pages ahead.

[sergeym1990]

Apfelweinbrauer wrote...

sergeym1990 wrote...

There was thread there mentioning that sales of ME3 are already below ME1 on amazon. So i think it is clear that this whole mess is hurting EA financially.

Is this just a rumor or confirmed information?

i'm not sure how reliable it is, but ME1 is ahead in this list - 
http://www.amazon.co...eogames/229575/ 

Modifié par sergeym1990, 16 mars 2012 - 08:01 .