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[BlackDevil06]

Apfelweinbrauer wrote...

MordiMoro wrote...

I do not want explanations, I want to see the end of the game, I do not want to imagine ... If I had to imagine why buy ME3?

If someone would have told me about this mess before I bought ME3, I just would have imagined the whole game instead of just the ending...

Well, I would've asked people to tell me the story. Basically the ending is the reason why to this very day I haven't watched Matrix: Revolutions.

As to your previous question: I have no problem following a boycott. Did so with previous games and will do the same with Mass effect 3. Multiplayer had it's fun moments, but just the different races, classes and abilities were interesting. I prefer to play horde in Gears 3.

[Mavaras]

MeldarthX wrote...

Apfelweinbrauer wrote...

Goikiu wrote...

Well, bioware/ea will lose a lot of customers.
That isn't good for them, they want more customers.
We're business talking here.

How many customers are really going to boycott them? Just a tiny minority, the big chunk of the gamers will complain about ME3 for a few weeks and then they will happily buy the next turd BioWare serves them, just like they did after DA2.
Maybe they will loose a handful of devout fans, but in the big picture it won't hurt them much...

Actually they would lose a lot more than people think; consumers we are.  We are the ones that end up paying for their paychecks.   Its doesn't just hurt ME; this also hurts MMOs tied to EA; other games.  I know lots are not continueing their subs with TOR until this is settled.

TOR goes from fastest growing MMO; to losing lots of subs very quickly because they didn't handle ME3 well.......

BW can very well pull magic out of the bag on this one; I think they will.....if they don't they loss me as a customer also; that goes for TOR.....which will suck cause I like the game

I ended my TOR sub over this, and detailed the problems with ME3 as the reason.

[kingsims]

They still have DA3 in development and ME3 DLC for 1 year. Acutally after DA2 and ME3 people will probably watch the endings before they become invested in the DA3 story assuming it ties up all the loose ends from DA:O, Awakening and DA2. Is it worth to spend $60 dollars and not get a conclusion to the story? Might aswell buy 3 really good books that will take you 100 hours of engrossing sci-fi story with a proper ending.

So is anyone here goining to buy dragon age 3 where the ending is a dream in the fade?

[MeldarthX]

Goikiu wrote...

Apfelweinbrauer wrote...

Goikiu wrote...

Well, bioware/ea will lose a lot of customers.
That isn't good for them, they want more customers.
We're business talking here.

How many customers are really going to boycott them? Just a tiny minority, the big chunk of the gamers will complain about ME3 for a few weeks and then they will happily buy the next turd BioWare serves them, just like they did after DA2.
Maybe they will loose a handful of devout fans, but in the big picture it won't hurt them much...

Don't really know about that, i've purchased some Bioware games in the past, after NWN2 i haven't buyed anything fantasy - related made from em. 

ME is a sci-fi story, never seen anything like that on sci-fi liked it. If they ruin it as it's now i won't buy other sequel.

Cannot tell you numbers, i'm one, you're another, i'm not in other customers head.

You know BW didn't do NWN2 - Obisian did........and yea that had a terrible ending too; which was fixed by the expansion.....

[monima]

jinx_60 wrote...

JosephDucreux wrote...

AlphaJarmel wrote...

I would pay for Happy Ending DLC. No joke.

And that's probably what EAWare was counting on to boost profits. F*ckers.

I disagree that they were counting on this kind of response. But I do imagine they are at least thinking about doing an ending dlc. After all, the biggest consideration when planning any DLC must be the question, "will people buy this?"
The answer to that of course is a resounding YES! 
Also, with so many people expressing a reluctance to replay the game after seeing those endings, it's likely any other dlc they were planning won't sell as well as they had hoped. 

Yeah I dont think they expected us to hate it that much,  but now that we do, their probably thinking why not make a profitt from it. If they do make a dlc with a better ending people will buy it. Probably a lot of people even if we hate them for it.. 
Their planned dlcs wont sell much as it is

[Lord Costantino]

Vandriel wrote...

One of the things about endings I'm surprised hasn't been brought up. I have seen talk about Fallout 3, sherlock holmes, tv shows like house, and movies. Here is a really good example of a fan following not liking versions of a movie: Blade Runner, Blade Runner has two "Happy" Endings, One Ambiguous, A Director's cut, And an Ultimate Edition. All of these versions, which I'm sure I left out one or two, are out there BECAUSE of the fans. Because there was a market for them.If Blade Runner had tanked and never become a cult classic, you wouldn't have these versions today. So just another reason not to lose hope.

USS Indianapolis taking position on the line.

They have been brought up earlier this morning...but you know this forum, things get lost:P But thank you for posting it again. Endings HAVE been changed before. This is NOT the first time thing to be demanded of. We even have more of a leg to stand on then the Sherlock rewrite because the product we buy is interactive and we were promised on certain things that were not delievered.

[KHReborn]

kingsims wrote...

They still have DA3 in development and ME3 DLC for 1 year. Acutally after DA2 and ME3 people will probably watch the endings before they become invested in the DA3 story assuming it ties up all the loose ends from DA:O, Awakening and DA2. Is it worth to spend $60 dollars and not get a conclusion to the story? Might aswell buy 3 really good books that will take you 100 hours of engrossing sci-fi story with a proper ending.

So is anyone here goining to buy dragon age 3 where the ending is a dream in the fade?

I never finished DA2... So no.

[Denethar]

Much greater and more negative news coverage, yesterday's app release reaction and now Japan are equally pissed off.

Can someone just mention to the Marketing Department at EA that silence and ignorance won't win the day for once,

[JulienJaden]

Apfelweinbrauer wrote...

Goikiu wrote...

Well, bioware/ea will lose a lot of customers.
That isn't good for them, they want more customers.
We're business talking here.

How many customers are really going to boycott them? Just a tiny minority, the big chunk of the gamers will complain about ME3 for a few weeks and then they will happily buy the next turd BioWare serves them, just like they did after DA2.
Maybe they will loose a handful of devout fans, but in the big picture it won't hurt them much...

Only a minority may boycott them, true. But think of those who will turn to piracy. We payed 40+ Euros for a game with an ending SO bad that it ruins the entire series. With few exceptions, everybody is upset, angry and demands they fix it.
As I said, you're right that many who say so won't really boycott Bioware products in the future, but I can see the number of illegal downloads explode because loyal customers don't want to be fooled like that again. They can play new Bioware games and hurt them for this failure at the same time. It's not pretty, but it's what's most likely going to happen, if Bioware doesn't adress these serious issues.

[Lord Costantino]

Apfelweinbrauer wrote...

Goikiu wrote...

ME is a sci-fi story, never seen anything like that on sci-fi liked it. If they ruin it as it's now i won't buy other sequel.

Cannot tell you numbers, i'm one, you're another, i'm not in other customers head.

Well I won't buy anything from them either, if they don't pull a miracle out of their ass and fix the ME3 ending, but as I said, we are just a tiny minority...

We are not as small as some think though...and I am with you on the not buying anything from them if they dont fix this.

[RomanDark]

Apfelweinbrauer wrote...

Benirus wrote...

How many of us belived they would learn from their misstake with DA2?

Well, I really believed that.
Stupid, silly me...

To be honest I held the dragon age team to different (lower) standards than I did the mass effect team. I guess that distinction can't be made any more

[Prudii Aden]

Nharia1 wrote...

So any news in the past 3 or so hours? (I doubt it since it's like 5am here, which means its around about 6am for Bioware's headquarters)

Not as such. Current theory is that they're waiting until the Japanese have had a reasonable amount of time to finish it.

On a separate subject - anyone know where I can get the picture of Reaper Shepard telling Harbinger to hurry up with building a Mass relay? Saw it a couple of hundred pages back...

[JulienJaden]

MeldarthX wrote...

Apfelweinbrauer wrote...

Goikiu wrote...

Well, bioware/ea will lose a lot of customers.
That isn't good for them, they want more customers.
We're business talking here.

How many customers are really going to boycott them? Just a tiny minority, the big chunk of the gamers will complain about ME3 for a few weeks and then they will happily buy the next turd BioWare serves them, just like they did after DA2.
Maybe they will loose a handful of devout fans, but in the big picture it won't hurt them much...

Actually they would lose a lot more than people think; consumers we are.  We are the ones that end up paying for their paychecks.   Its doesn't just hurt ME; this also hurts MMOs tied to EA; other games.  I know lots are not continueing their subs with TOR until this is settled.

TOR goes from fastest growing MMO; to losing lots of subs very quickly because they didn't handle ME3 well.......

BW can very well pull magic out of the bag on this one; I think they will.....if they don't they loss me as a customer also; that goes for TOR.....which will suck cause I like the game

Oh, yeah, that reminds me: I have to end my TOR subscription. Haven't played since ME3 came out anyway.

[tangalin]

[Nayt Navare]

Delpinolikespotatoes wrote...

Major Swift wrote...

FOX216BC wrote...

 This song reflects the ending

lol thanks for the laugh

So great :lol:

Im sick so I can't really laugh, but damn did I wheeze... 

[Lord Costantino]

kingsims wrote...

They still have DA3 in development and ME3 DLC for 1 year. Acutally after DA2 and ME3 people will probably watch the endings before they become invested in the DA3 story assuming it ties up all the loose ends from DA:O, Awakening and DA2. Is it worth to spend $60 dollars and not get a conclusion to the story? Might aswell buy 3 really good books that will take you 100 hours of engrossing sci-fi story with a proper ending.

So is anyone here goining to buy dragon age 3 where the ending is a dream in the fade?

That makes me mad thinking about if THAT or something just as dreadful was the ending....I loved DR:O and DA2 was just an awful sequel to Origins.

[halloween20]

SSV Rheinland reporting in...

any news ?

how is Marauder Shields ?

[vboy23]

Thanks for posting major kirrahees speech, good times good times


Hold the line!!!

Never forget Marauder Shields!!!

[talk_sick]

I believe TotalBiscuit nailed it: Boycotting doesn't work, because:
1. we already bought the game
2. it's not like there's another company out there that will make a new story of commander shepards, that starts with the end of suicide mission and fixes all the garbage that ME3 dumped all over the game.

Also - the damage has been done already. The best way to fix this would be to simply pretend ME3 didn't happen and redo it from scratch.

[Benirus]

Just a quick reminder to stay civil and strong people!

Let's do this the right way! I might be imagining it, but now that we have the attention of big news sites, not just game sites. I think it's starting to slide in our favor. Also with the PR boost, bioware can reap even more advantages if they handle this the right way, and we all know what the right way is

Hold the line!

Modifié par Benirus, 16 mars 2012 - 11:58 .

[VivaLaWhatsername]

I actually liked DA2, but hey that's just me... but I definitely think I am going to be more wary before buying DA3.

[Lord Costantino]

halloween20 wrote...

SSV Rheinland reporting in...

any news ?

how is Marauder Shields ?

Japan forums are blowing up with anger calling Mass Effect "Rent Effect" and they are still silent at Bioware HQ

[Mixon]

ME3 is so epic, that it must have happy end by default. 3 given ways are not happy end.

[Apfelweinbrauer]

MeldarthX wrote...

Actually they would lose a lot more than people think; consumers we are.  We are the ones that end up paying for their paychecks.   Its doesn't just hurt ME; this also hurts MMOs tied to EA; other games.  I know lots are not continueing their subs with TOR until this is settled.

I seriously hope you are right with that, but I highly doubt it, only once I have seen a boycott on a game developer actually work and that wasn't some giant company like BioWare but a small studio...

MeldarthX wrote...
BW can very well pull magic out of the bag on this one

Hardly. It's quite clear that they have NOTHING prepared right now, so even if they would be willing to cater to our protest and change the ending, the would have to do everything from scratch: new cutscenes, new storylines, get the voice actors back to the studio and so on...
A task like that takes months to complete, so there is no hope for the near future.

Modifié par Apfelweinbrauer, 16 mars 2012 - 11:58 .

[Fulgrim88]

Apfelweinbrauer wrote...

Goikiu wrote...

Well, bioware/ea will lose a lot of customers.
That isn't good for them, they want more customers.
We're business talking here.

How many customers are really going to boycott them? Just a tiny minority, the big chunk of the gamers will complain about ME3 for a few weeks and then they will happily buy the next turd BioWare serves them, just like they did after DA2.
Maybe they will loose a handful of devout fans, but in the big picture it won't hurt them much...

Oh, far from it.

It's true, they had few repercussions from the whole DA2 issue. But that's because we

1) believed it would change their games for the better and were willing to give them a second chance
and
2) The next games in line were huge, established franchises (Mass Effect and Star Wars), so everybody was more or less bound to buy them anyway, based on prior ties to the franchise (if being a big fan of either, or both).

Now while I don't think ME3 is a "bad" game, the way DA2 was, my confidence in this company is severely damaged by the slap in the face that was it's ending - and the way it's been handled (plus a lot of issues with swtor, also neglecting its fanbase in favor of "tried and true" mass market appeal)

Point is; the next games Bioware will release will be new franchises. There will be no emotional ties, no obligation to buy them, other than our trust in wether or not Bioware can be trusted to make games we will enjoy.
Something they've gone a long way to damage, now.