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[Alamandorious]

Again with the pictures.

Please link pictures, do not post or repost them through replies;

Yes, a lot of them are highly amusing (Gandalf one, classic...) but they can get this thread shut down.

Remember, we're all capable of clicking links ^^

Thank you.

[Lord Costantino]

sgreco1970 wrote...

DaftArbiter wrote...

Current information states that regardless of which ending you choose, regardless of whether or not Shep lives or dies, the Normandy crew gets stranded on some random world without tech, Shepard will never see them again, and the galaxy by and large is completely boned for the next 200k years or so without any kind of good spacefaring tech.


To which I just want to say...why? After so many years of giving us control, why jerk it away from us at the last second just to force us to get a "bittersweet" ending. Not that I mind there being one present, and I'd use one in a playthrough, but not ALL my playthroughs.

Shepard, for 3 games, sacrificed and performed for everyone who asked; from the most powerful beings in the universe to the lowliest side quest giver. When he died, he made the final, ultimate, selfless sacrifice. The galaxy is reborn into a reality without war, where all beings have evolved to the next step, and emerge into a literal garden of eden.

I'd say that's a pretty big deal. Frankly, I loved it.

While I respect your opinion and happy you enjoy the ending. However, there WILL ALWAYS be war and the ending had no deep meaning behind it at all. Mass Effect 1 and 2 was building the princple of tolerance and unification of other species AND synthetics. The last part of the game DISREGARDS its own princple. Another thing that happens is that an ENTIRE Galactic armada is not stranded and left to starve on a world that cant sustain its own people.

Modifié par Lord Costantino, 16 mars 2012 - 01:59 .

[Alamandorious]

sgreco1970 wrote...

DaftArbiter wrote...

Current information states that regardless of which ending you choose, regardless of whether or not Shep lives or dies, the Normandy crew gets stranded on some random world without tech, Shepard will never see them again, and the galaxy by and large is completely boned for the next 200k years or so without any kind of good spacefaring tech.


To which I just want to say...why? After so many years of giving us control, why jerk it away from us at the last second just to force us to get a "bittersweet" ending. Not that I mind there being one present, and I'd use one in a playthrough, but not ALL my playthroughs.

Shepard, for 3 games, sacrificed and performed for everyone who asked; from the most powerful beings in the universe to the lowliest side quest giver. When he died, he made the final, ultimate, selfless sacrifice. The galaxy is reborn into a reality without war, where all beings have evolved to the next step, and emerge into a literal garden of eden.

I'd say that's a pretty big deal. Frankly, I loved it.

Thank you for your input; it's nice to hear a civil argument for the other side, and some reasoning behind it other than 'you don't get the ending'.

I have to disagree with your assessment, however; the destruction of the mass relays pretty much wipes out sentient life in the Galaxy.  Maybe after another 50K-100K years new life emerges, but...that doesn't do much for those that were dead.

[Alamandorious]

Well, gotta go do some errands.

Link the pictures, stay civil, and no acts of harrassment/vandalism against Bioware. You guys have been, as always, pretty fantastic about this.

HOLD THE LINE!

Keelah Se'lai.

[LittleDeadGirl]

Alamandorious wrote...

HOLD THE LINE!

Keelah Se'lai.

Keelah Se'lai to you as well!

[Darth Taurus]

Good morning people!
Keep holding the line!!

Cheers from São Paulo, Brazil

[Ravennus]

Sleeping Giant Vanguards, holding the line! (and biotically charging their flank when the need arises!)

From Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada... proud to stand with this great community response.
Donate to Child's Play if you haven't already!

[KerrJMF]

Does anyone know the time frame between the release of Fallout 3 and the 'better ending' patch? Perhaps that's the span we'll be looking at before Bioware responds.

Delurking to hold the line over the weekend.

Modifié par KerrJMF, 16 mars 2012 - 02:03 .

[evisneffo]

kristopherah wrote...

Anyone else think that Blasto Partners in Crime had a better ending than the game?

Blasto was so much fun! That's why it blows so much that the game ends this way, because there are so many examples of infinitely better writing throughout the game.

[SilverShell]

Hello there everyone, i am hereby joining the cause! Reinforcements for the German fleet inbound!

Also going to make myself some air now.

ME3 was everything i hoped for it to be. From the very beginning, it created a dark, foreboding atmosphere that got reinforced on every single mission. "Do this right and do it ****ing right NOW or the entire galaxy is ****ed!" is what i took with me whenever i left the Normandy.

Seeing old friends from ME2 amongst all the carnage was heartwarming. I never took Mordin along outside of his loyalty mission(sorry but Team Dextro is too awesome), but i found him immensely entertaining and talked to him whenever i could. I must have listened to him performing Gilbert and Sullivan like a dozen times on youtube, and was giggling the whole time he sang to Eve. When he decided to sacrifice himself to cure the genophage, i was already holding back tears. When he started quietly humming to himself while everything around him blew up, one or two tears slipped out. When he started singing only to explode before he could finish the final sentence there was no keeping the floodgates closed. If memory serves, even my femShep was bawling.

And while other emotional scenes followed blow upon blow, i cant remember another instance where she had glittering tear trails on her cheeks. But perhaps i was just imagining those to begin with...

So for me, that one scene symbolizes everything i loved about ME3. Its desperate, its emotional, Shep doesnt want Mordin to do it, but she realizes its necessary. I could feel the pain and heartbreak oozing off both of them as they said their farewells. Even writing about it now, im getting misty-eyed again.

I could go on about how i never really liked Thane, but how his sacrifice made me fall in love with him. And how infinitely satisfying it was to freaking skewer Kai Leng and go all "That was for Thane!" into his fugly face. I never enjoyed a Renegade interrupt before or since. Aside from shooting Udina perhaps, and even then killing Leng still tops that.

Or about how everything on Thessia, with EVERYONE you meet/see/hear dying all around you, was simply heartbreaking. I had to pause every now and then to wipe the tears away. Yeah im a crybaby.

Ill make it short: Everything about ME3 was completely perfect. But back then i was still under the impression that what i did would have an effect on the outcome. I agonized over whether to cure the genophage or not, imagining what kind of result having the Salarians or the Krogan on bord would have on the final battle. Ditto for many other choices i had made. Should i finally kill Balak since hes such a bloody ***hole and anyway, Batarians kind of deserve it anyway, or should i take his ships and throw them at the Reapers? etc etc


And then came the ending. Lets ignore for a minute that the whole war assets/effective military strength thing has practically no influence on how the battle goes. I was expecting to see at least each major faction do something cool. A thousand Quarian lifeship-dreadnoughts shooting at everything squid-looking. A million Geth zerging. Destiny Ascension firing that big *** cannon. All i got was a generic space battle cinematic.

But as i said lets just ignore that and chalk it up to 'cant please everyone'. It was a good cinematic and maybe i just expected to much when i envisioned each of my choices up to that point to be reflected in the battle.

Lets concentrate on the actual end. After the nonsensical Shepard and Anderson solo dungeoncrawl thingamabob, after TIM pulling a Saren on me, after the admittedly tearjerking scene of Anderson dying anyway. After being updated by Hackett and desperately struggling to get to the console. All that still had parts that i enjoyed. It wasnt what i expected. It wasnt what i had wished for. It wasnt the quality of writing i had come to expect from a Bioware title. But i could take some enjoyment from it.

But then it all fell apart. I wont repeat all that was so horrible about it. You all know what i mean anyway. Its been said a hundred times in this thread alone already. So just consider me agreeing with all of you on how absolutely gutwrenchingly horrible it all was. After almost a year of waiting for this title, after replaying both ME1 and ME2 around a dozen times to get it juuuust right, after laughing and crying with all these characters i got to know and love...

... all i got was being able to destroy the galaxy in three different colors.

And the worst thing isnt even that it completely ruined ME3, and no matter how perfect the rest of the game was it did ruin it. The worst thing is that i will never be able to replay any ME title now, because i know that no matter what i do, everything will go down in flames in the end anyway. This ending didnt just ruin what was supposed to be my favourite game of all time, it completely ruined my favourite SERIES of games.. of all time. And im not sure if any amount of head-canon can possibly fix that.

Well and that was enough of me ranting. At least i can take some satisfaction in the knowledge that other people feel the same.

[mdolsen]

SSV Kitchener online. Canadian division reporting in.

[daemoxn]

sgreco1970 wrote...The galaxy is reborn into a reality without war, where all beings have evolved to the next step, and emerge into a literal garden of eden.

You do mean that all the races that just barely tolerated each other because Shepard convinced them it was necessary can now wipe each other out happily above Earth? That kind of Eden?

[Killer3000ad]

karambiatos wrote...

Doppelgaenger wrote...


That reminds me of the last game that dissapointed me like this: Tiberium Sun:sick:

tiberium sun nutin

red alert 3 now that was a dissapoint

What do they all have in common? Their predecessors' titles that earned their developers such praise were all made before they were acquired by EA. The subsequent releases under EA's thumb were bad. See a pattern here?

Modifié par Killer3000ad, 16 mars 2012 - 02:05 .

[Thore2k10]

http://social.biowar...18/polls/29668/

everyone vote please!

[Benirus]

SilverShell wrote...

Hello there everyone, i am hereby joining the cause! Reinforcements for the German fleet inbound!

Also going to make myself some air now.

ME3 was everything i hoped for it to be. From the very beginning, it created a dark, foreboding atmosphere that got reinforced on every single mission. "Do this right and do it ****ing right NOW or the entire galaxy is ****ed!" is what i took with me whenever i left the Normandy.

*snip*

... all i got was being able to destroy the galaxy in three different colors.

And the worst thing isnt even that it completely ruined ME3, and no matter how perfect the rest of the game was it did ruin it. The worst thing is that i will never be able to replay any ME title now, because i know that no matter what i do, everything will go down in flames in the end anyway. This ending didnt just ruin what was supposed to be my favourite game of all time, it completely ruined my favourite SERIES of games.. of all time. And im not sure if any amount of head-canon can possibly fix that.

Well and that was enough of me ranting. At least i can take some satisfaction in the knowledge that other people feel the same.

Welcome to the fight, everyone here feels the same as you.

Hold the line!

Modifié par Benirus, 16 mars 2012 - 02:06 .

[Lord Costantino]

SilverShell wrote...

Hello there everyone, i am hereby joining the cause! Reinforcements for the German fleet inbound!

Also going to make myself some air now.

ME3 was everything i hoped for it to be. From the very beginning, it created a dark, foreboding atmosphere that got reinforced on every single mission. "Do this right and do it ****ing right NOW or the entire galaxy is ****ed!" is what i took with me whenever i left the Normandy.

Seeing old friends from ME2 amongst all the carnage was heartwarming. I never took Mordin along outside of his loyalty mission(sorry but Team Dextro is too awesome), but i found him immensely entertaining and talked to him whenever i could. I must have listened to him performing Gilbert and Sullivan like a dozen times on youtube, and was giggling the whole time he sang to Eve. When he decided to sacrifice himself to cure the genophage, i was already holding back tears. When he started quietly humming to himself while everything around him blew up, one or two tears slipped out. When he started singing only to explode before he could finish the final sentence there was no keeping the floodgates closed. If memory serves, even my femShep was bawling.

And while other emotional scenes followed blow upon blow, i cant remember another instance where she had glittering tear trails on her cheeks. But perhaps i was just imagining those to begin with...

So for me, that one scene symbolizes everything i loved about ME3. Its desperate, its emotional, Shep doesnt want Mordin to do it, but she realizes its necessary. I could feel the pain and heartbreak oozing off both of them as they said their farewells. Even writing about it now, im getting misty-eyed again.

I could go on about how i never really liked Thane, but how his sacrifice made me fall in love with him. And how infinitely satisfying it was to freaking skewer Kai Leng and go all "That was for Thane!" into his fugly face. I never enjoyed a Renegade interrupt before or since. Aside from shooting Udina perhaps, and even then killing Leng still tops that.

Or about how everything on Thessia, with EVERYONE you meet/see/hear dying all around you, was simply heartbreaking. I had to pause every now and then to wipe the tears away. Yeah im a crybaby.

Ill make it short: Everything about ME3 was completely perfect. But back then i was still under the impression that what i did would have an effect on the outcome. I agonized over whether to cure the genophage or not, imagining what kind of result having the Salarians or the Krogan on bord would have on the final battle. Ditto for many other choices i had made. Should i finally kill Balak since hes such a bloody ***hole and anyway, Batarians kind of deserve it anyway, or should i take his ships and throw them at the Reapers? etc etc


And then came the ending. Lets ignore for a minute that the whole war assets/effective military strength thing has practically no influence on how the battle goes. I was expecting to see at least each major faction do something cool. A thousand Quarian lifeship-dreadnoughts shooting at everything squid-looking. A million Geth zerging. Destiny Ascension firing that big *** cannon. All i got was a generic space battle cinematic.

But as i said lets just ignore that and chalk it up to 'cant please everyone'. It was a good cinematic and maybe i just expected to much when i envisioned each of my choices up to that point to be reflected in the battle.

Lets concentrate on the actual end. After the nonsensical Shepard and Anderson solo dungeoncrawl thingamabob, after TIM pulling a Saren on me, after the admittedly tearjerking scene of Anderson dying anyway. After being updated by Hackett and desperately struggling to get to the console. All that still had parts that i enjoyed. It wasnt what i expected. It wasnt what i had wished for. It wasnt the quality of writing i had come to expect from a Bioware title. But i could take some enjoyment from it.

But then it all fell apart. I wont repeat all that was so horrible about it. You all know what i mean anyway. Its been said a hundred times in this thread alone already. So just consider me agreeing with all of you on how absolutely gutwrenchingly horrible it all was. After almost a year of waiting for this title, after replaying both ME1 and ME2 around a dozen times to get it juuuust right, after laughing and crying with all these characters i got to know and love...

... all i got was being able to destroy the galaxy in three different colors.

And the worst thing isnt even that it completely ruined ME3, and no matter how perfect the rest of the game was it did ruin it. The worst thing is that i will never be able to replay any ME title now, because i know that no matter what i do, everything will go down in flames in the end anyway. This ending didnt just ruin what was supposed to be my favourite game of all time, it completely ruined my favourite SERIES of games.. of all time. And im not sure if any amount of head-canon can possibly fix that.

Well and that was enough of me ranting. At least i can take some satisfaction in the knowledge that other people feel the same.

Amazing post and welcome to the fleet 

Reminder to everyone
Be Civil and donate to them kids from Child Play
Remember our fallen hero Marauder Shields and Hold the Line!

[Doppelgaenger]

Killer3000ad wrote...

karambiatos wrote...

Doppelgaenger wrote...


That reminds me of the last game that dissapointed me like this: Tiberium Sun:sick:

tiberium sun nutin

red alert 3 now that was a dissapoint

What do they all have in common? Their predecessors' titles that earned their developers such praise were all made before they were acquired by EA. The subsequent releases under EA's thumb were bad. See a pattern here?

True.

[WarBaby2]

karlchen wrote...

SSV Baden calling...

Checking Galactic readiness and fleet strength at http://retakeme3.priv.nu/


Very good Summary about the Fleet!

Bam oida!^^

[kingsims]

In 2 months time it won't matter because another competitor is releasing an a major RPG and judging from all the effort and years they spent in that game it won't disappoint. Its going to be a tough call between RPG of the year with the current endings.

[longbowlc]

Debating whether or not to actually do the final mission, just convinced EDI there's more to live then pro-creation and just got to the quarian homeworld (yes i spoiled the ending, but concidering the fuss i saw before i saw it, i was curious)

[Edbi]

One question to synthesis ending: Shep is human so how can be his DNA/implants used to synthetize Asari, Turian and other species?

[silencemayday]

WarBaby2 wrote...

karlchen wrote...

SSV Baden calling...

Checking Galactic readiness and fleet strength at http://retakeme3.priv.nu/


Very good Summary about the Fleet!

Bam oida!^^

i don't think they're from the austrian/baden variety.. or am i missing something? because austrian groups would be awesome for once. 

[Vandriel]

Edbi wrote...

One question to synthesis ending: Shep is human so how can be his DNA/implants used to synthetize Asari, Turian and other species?

Space Magic! 

[malra]

mulder1199 wrote...

Xyalon wrote...

LittleDeadGirl wrote...

Xyalon ... thanks and good to see you again too. I'm honestly just holding the line for the sake to save Bioware's soul. I'm hoping they see how angry we are and know they can't drop the ball like this and know they have to put in more effort. I don't want them to become just another video game company that churns out a mediocre product.

I just don't want to see BioWare go the way of Westwood...

if they dont' have the stones to appease their fans they can go belly up for all i'm interested

I don' think any of us want to see them go down in flames, but depending on their response .....well, i won't be buying anymore new games from them if they don't try to make this right.  i'll let a second hand store take all the profit course that only works if i even continue buying their products.

[Pabloskie]

Edbi wrote...

One question to synthesis ending: Shep is human so how can be his DNA/implants used to synthetize Asari, Turian and other species?

SPace Magic:wizard: