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Xyalon wrote...

Prudii Aden wrote...
In the situation just prior to the end of the game, there's no real chance of a 100% happy ending, as, let's face it - even if the Mass Relays don't go, the galaxy is still looking at decades of effort to rebuild, especially as at least three major homeworlds got hit and got hit hard. There's a chunk of inferred holocaust, considering that there's just been a galactic war. For example, look how long it took for people to rebuild after WW2.
What people are after, I believe, is some variety of closure, a broad epilogue of what happened to all the characters that didn't die during the game. For some, this would include Shepard & their LI off doing something appropriate. Others would just quite like the option for at least positive ending without removing the three current endings.

Most of us are aware of this. But for us, and in this situation just like in WW2, a happy ending is that people get a chance to rebuild. A lot of us want to see that happen. We want to see the little miracles which make tragedy all the more bearable. The solitary tree in a scorched park miraculously not touched by the fires of war. The toasts of others remembering their fallen comrades and honoring them.
I agree with you, I wouldn't remove the endings here, I would make them possibilites, but I would give more possibilites. After all, this is fantasy, is it not?


Same line of thinking you have. A good ending is seeing them rebuild what was lost, burying the dead and honoring their memory. Looking at how all the species came together to save each other. 
I assume other people thought we wanted hugs and tears and kissing etc., but having an ending were you see everyone coming together once more to rebuild is both happy and sad because you can see all that you lost. You asked these people to unite with you to save the galaxy and even of you knew a lot would not make it home, it still weighed heavily, you still felt somewhat responsible.

Fact of the matter is you can't save everyone that's just life, but you can sure build for a better tomorrow.
The ending should reflect that. People are tired and beaten, alive but scarred, happy it's over and yet sad that they lost many friends.
It's an ending of sadness but also of hope.. Th is an ending we would remember. Knowing we won but at great cost. Why this can't be an option is beyond me

Modifié par Bionic Weapon, 16 mars 2012 - 03:20 .


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Kosiji wrote...

I still feel that it would've been so COOL if during certain spot on earth....your ex/current comrade's would've been shown fighting (like Jack using her biotics to blast clear the way, Miranda shooting some indoctrinated enemies, etc). Ugh.....that would've made things more epic to see your team ACTUALLY fighting on the battlefield.

Well from what I could read in the leaked script, there was a lot more going on down on Earth, and the run to the Conduit atleast had 4 different scenario's. One of them has been shown in the final Hours, where your Squad get's hit by Harbinger. I dont know why the had to cut these things.

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Jorojr wrote...

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No idea why people are so upset with picture of Tali's face origins. They picked a beautiful woman and remade it perfectly. This BW done very well at least.

holding the line!


I agree with you on this one.  I would have liked to see it in game, but I have no issues with the picture and how it was presented.


maybe because we know she wouldn't take off her entire suit...OUTSIDE....just to pose for a picture....ignoreing the fact she never had a chance to do this...

Also it'sjust a cheap ass photoshop job?

Modifié par kylecouch, 16 mars 2012 - 03:24 .


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slipliker wrote...

No idea why people are so upset with picture of Tali's face origins. They picked a beautiful woman and remade it perfectly. This BW done very well at least.

holding the line!


Well, I suppose, they could've spend a little bit more time on making her 3D model, at least to for her to appear in love scene, because it doesn't seem natural at all. I mean the camera angles are always like "yeah, she took of her mask, so what? no, we're not going to show Tali's face to you, go to hell!" and, well...You gotta see this for yourself. As I said, it doesn't seem even a bit natural.


Yeah the Tali reveal was the definition of lazy. The picture looks like they stole one of those pictures that comes with a picture frame.

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I will hold the line till bioware makes an annoncement and heres why

I've been mastering table top RPG since approx 9 years now and basically the ME series is the exact same thing execpt the story is told by like 50 proffesional writers instead of one, the visual are made by like 300 people and not with squared sheet and mini and the players are around 1000000 around the world and not five around a table. But at the basic it's the same, you tell them a storie centered around a campaign and they decide what happen with their actions depending on their character and how well they perform in combat.

I can believe that after all these years of making fantastic RPG they would break all the rules. the entire games, execpt for the ending, was perfect your choice everything until they ****ing jump the shark a the end. I mean it doesn't make any sense, they nail everything except the ending. It just doesn't work, somebody at the writing dep would have seen this and said it was dumb and even the guys in the playtesting or markething would have seen this from a mile away.

On an RPG standpoint it would be like telling my player that after a year long campaign preparing themselve to stick it to evil. after a year of preparation with an army and everything. I tell them that you can't beat them in any way even the super weapon they have isn't effective because they planned your action and they can turn the weapon to their advantage because they have an undestructible unicorn and that the only way to win is with an agreement that would arrange them greatly and you can't deviate from this choice because I sais so and they would kill everyone on the planet. Imagine how much games I would play with those people again, here's an estimation 0%.

I can 't believe a studio like bioware who know more than me about RPG. Who was so meticulus about checking our feedback on the forums, on twitter and even going as far as checking every decision we've made through a direct link from the games and their server. Who would go as far a putting meme from the forums and old characters from previous games (like boo), nail 95% of the games and just **** up everything in a 10 seconds ending. It's not possible unless they planned everything.

All I am saying is wait for official announcement before losing hope because

either they planned this all along and this is the most brilliant marketing campagin and plot in history of gaming (like indoc theory and nothing disprove this irrefutably at this time) or they **** up so big that in 10 min they destroyed, the greatet sci-fi series in history ( in my opinion), a ****ing big chunk of their most loyal fan base and practicly declared themselves the most awful GameMasters in the history of mankind ( they sabotaged their on series).

so before you quit wait until the official annoncement from them
until then HOLD THE LINE

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Don't know if anyone posted this before, but here it is:

Ladies and gentlemen... we have... an Internet meme!

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Fox544 wrote...

slipliker wrote...

No idea why people are so upset with picture of Tali's face origins. They picked a beautiful woman and remade it perfectly. This BW done very well at least.

holding the line!


Well, I suppose, they could've spend a little bit more time on making her 3D model, at least to for her to appear in love scene, because it doesn't seem natural at all. I mean the camera angles are always like "yeah, she took of her mask, so what? no, we're not going to show Tali's face to you, go to hell!" and, well...You gotta see this for yourself. As I said, it doesn't seem even a bit natural.


Yeah the Tali reveal was the definition of lazy. The picture looks like they stole one of those pictures that comes with a picture frame.


she wouldn't have looked so human anyhow, she had glowing eyes and turian hands.

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TerrifiedKiz wrote...

Uezurii wrote...

Does someone still have that picture of someone trolling the ME Twitter, by saying he liked the game, and then when ME Twitter replied he said something like: "Can't believe you fell for that"?


cs301312.userapi.com/u16577929/-14/x_3b76c8df.jpg


lol, I hadn't seen that one yet.  Colorblind still wins though.

Modifié par Akael_Bayn, 16 mars 2012 - 03:23 .


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I don't get it why some people are saying : "You wan't a happy ending? Grow up, it needs to be sad because that is cool and very adult."

Are they really that embittered? My ending can't be fully happy, where everybody gets a lollipop and survives. I played full paragon and that is the reason why I lost Thane, Mordin and Legion on the way to the final.

But I could live with that. It makes sense and I believe if these characters were real they would not want it any different. Especially Mordin and Legion have given their lives to change the hole future of entire races for the better!

So I would say to those people: "Grow up yourself. I lost good people and it is much more difficult to live with that than just dying in the end."

Sorry for my english. I'm not a native speaker.

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Whatever happened to the letter campaign I've heard whispers of over the past few days? Is that still going to happen? I don't want to be alone in holding the line with my letter to BW!

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In addition to being civil and respectful, let's make sure to keep the topic on track. We all love Tali, but discussion about her picture should be taken to another thread. We don't want to get this one locked.

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 I quite like my tweet to Mass Effect. I don't like their generic reply. Taken from ipod, sorry.
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Matt_gekko88 wrote...



Lol, at the George Carlin part

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zephyrus92 wrote...

Whatever happened to the letter campaign I've heard whispers of over the past few days? Is that still going to happen? I don't want to be alone in holding the line with my letter to BW!


I don't think you need permission from the rest of us to write Bioware a letter. ^_~

Hell, now that you say it, I'm tempted to write one.  Or maybe just print out that picture of Magic Star Boy giving everyone the finger and ship them like 6000 copies.

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From a fellow countryman tha cant post here and made two videos as a contribution to the movement:

Shields:

Hackett:

Modifié par Katsumi Liqueur, 16 mars 2012 - 03:26 .


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Akael_Bayn wrote...

zephyrus92 wrote...

Whatever happened to the letter campaign I've heard whispers of over the past few days? Is that still going to happen? I don't want to be alone in holding the line with my letter to BW!


I don't think you need permission from the rest of us to write Bioware a letter. ^_~

Hell, now that you say it, I'm tempted to write one.  Or maybe just print out that picture of Magic Star Boy giving everyone the finger and ship them like 6000 copies.


magic star boy -> :wizard:

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How goes the line holding all?

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Fox544 wrote...

slipliker wrote...

No idea why people are so upset with picture of Tali's face origins. They picked a beautiful woman and remade it perfectly. This BW done very well at least.

holding the line!


Well, I suppose, they could've spend a little bit more time on making her 3D model, at least to for her to appear in love scene, because it doesn't seem natural at all. I mean the camera angles are always like "yeah, she took of her mask, so what? no, we're not going to show Tali's face to you, go to hell!" and, well...You gotta see this for yourself. As I said, it doesn't seem even a bit natural.


Yeah the Tali reveal was the definition of lazy. The picture looks like they stole one of those pictures that comes with a picture frame.


They did.

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Bionic Weapon wrote...
Same line of thinking you have. A good ending is seeing them rebuild what was lost, burying the dead and honoring their memory. Looking at how all the species came together to save each other. 
I assume other people thought we wanted hugs and tears and kissing etc., but having an ending were you see everyone coming together once more to rebuild is both happy and sad because you can see all that you lost. You asked these people to unite with you to save the galaxy and even of you knew a lot would not make it home, it still weighed heavily, you still felt somewhat responsible.

Fact of the matter is you can't save everyone that's just life, but you can sure build for a better tomorrow.
The ending should reflect that. People are tired and beaten, alive but scarred, happy it's over and yet sad that they lost many friends.
It's an ending of sadness but also of hope.. Th is an ending we would remember. Knowing we won but at great cost. Why this can't be an option is beyond me


My thoughts exactly. I didn't want to see a perfect ending where everyone survives and lives happily ever after, but I sure wasn't prepared for what we've got instead...

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TerrifiedKiz wrote...

Uezurii wrote...

Does someone still have that picture of someone trolling the ME Twitter, by saying he liked the game, and then when ME Twitter replied he said something like: "Can't believe you fell for that"?


cs301312.userapi.com/u16577929/-14/x_3b76c8df.jpg



HAHAHAHAHA!!! I literally laughed so loud that people in my office got gave me the crazy look. HAHAHA!

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ViperAlvein wrote...

How goes the line holding all?


as it seems no news for now soldier. :wizard:

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Goikiu wrote...

ViperAlvein wrote...

How goes the line holding all?


as it seems no news for now soldier. :wizard:


As far as I'm concerned. No news is good news for the moment. :lol:

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lord berwick wrote...

I'm sorry, but this is simply brilliant

Hold the line!


LOL LOL LOL

Perfect! hhauhauahauahua

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Goikiu wrote...

Akael_Bayn wrote...

zephyrus92 wrote...

Whatever happened to the letter campaign I've heard whispers of over the past few days? Is that still going to happen? I don't want to be alone in holding the line with my letter to BW!


I don't think you need permission from the rest of us to write Bioware a letter. ^_~

Hell, now that you say it, I'm tempted to write one.  Or maybe just print out that picture of Magic Star Boy giving everyone the finger and ship them like 6000 copies.


magic star boy -> :wizard:


Heh.... Shouldn't there be a picture of Marauder Shields in there as well?

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malra wrote...

Fox544 wrote...

slipliker wrote...

No idea why people are so upset with picture of Tali's face origins. They picked a beautiful woman and remade it perfectly. This BW done very well at least.

holding the line!


Well, I suppose, they could've spend a little bit more time on making her 3D model, at least to for her to appear in love scene, because it doesn't seem natural at all. I mean the camera angles are always like "yeah, she took of her mask, so what? no, we're not going to show Tali's face to you, go to hell!" and, well...You gotta see this for yourself. As I said, it doesn't seem even a bit natural.


Yeah the Tali reveal was the definition of lazy. The picture looks like they stole one of those pictures that comes with a picture frame.


she wouldn't have looked so human anyhow, she had glowing eyes and turian hands.


Exactly. She was completely human. I really couldn't see any alien features.