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[WarBaby2]

E-Type XR wrote...
Which is not the kind of audience a video game gets.

Who wants to play a video game that makes despressed?

That way you described it, it is highly depressing.

Dunno... personally I loved the Xenosaga series...

...but you may be right, it was a Japanese RPG afteral... they are big on bittersweet endings.

Western audiences usually like their happy ends.

[AlphaJarmel]

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...]

Is that seen in the bink file? Or do you see that in an in-game cutscene?

There's now an image of him on Earth and SA guy confirmed he revives in London.

[draken-heart]

hey guys, on the pastebin of the endings it was said that the fate of the Sword and Hammer, sword being the fleets, Hammer being the ground forces, is dependent on the EMS, which i belive is based off the GAW and Galactic Readiness scores. If Shepard Survives, the fate of Both sword&hammer is good as the score at which Shepard is higher than the scores needed for their fates to be determined.

Any truth, because i would think that Shepards of both genders could find a new LI post game if it is true, and there are survivors of sword/hammer.

[Rob_K1]

mass_zotz wrote...

blueruin wrote...

Quartof wrote...

Joker apparently tried to avoid beams from the relays and fails to do so, so the Normandy gets shot to some random backwater planet with no hope of recovery.

Where is the evidence that this is true?

 The destory ending is online but only have but joker des evade the worm hole or beam

So, if the leaks are true:

It's a similar situation to the beginning of ME 2, where the Normandy gets attacked, ending up with Shepard dying. Similar in the sense that damage to the Normandy cannot be avoided.

Next, I do not actually want this answered but it is something worthwhile pondering on, why exactly is the Normandy near the Relays to begin with and such, so that it is in a position to end up how it does, alongside the crew? Again, context is everything.

As I stated, the two leakers have stated they enjoyed the ending. So, it is entirely possible that the ending plays out better than people are imagining.

And, regarding the 'leaks are true' bit, I am not saying they're incorrect. Neither am I saying the leaks are correct. I'm simply taking the wait and see approach.

Personally, a doom and gloom ending or a happy one will not bother me. Meaning I have no problem with the leaks if they turn out to be true. As long as everything leading up to the end is good and the game finishes with a bang that is impacting, then I'll be happy.

[Quartof]

I pay Joker to dodge laser beams. Why does he always fail to dodge these... laser beams.

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...]

Is that seen in the bink file? Or do you see that in an in-game cutscene?

There's now an image of him on Earth and SA guy confirmed he revives in London.

London is a favorite in ME3 I guess.

Anything else on that ending?

[ZDPhoenix]

I think ME3 will be the last bioware game I pick up.

I feel that this shows a lack of care and planning with story, by the writing staff.

The lack of getting an ending we can say "This was worth it" to is... excessive to say the least.

[Risselda]

Naqey wrote...

Risselda wrote...

"amazing and very definitive ending" said in an interview

The squad being stranded on some random planet where one of the DNA groups will definitely die in a brutal way and Shep dead (thats fine) or stranded on the citadel to live as a hermit, commit suicide, or starve (not fine)......not amazing and definitive.

There are holes here that need to be filled. Preparing for the worst, hoping for the best.

if shepard survives, he´s not trapped in the citadel. he´s on earth

Ah, earth makes much better sense...I read somewhere in this mammoth spoiler threadage that Shep is in the citadel which is floating above earth.

The Shep side of the story wouldnt bother me now, if it is indeed earth.

But the squad thing...that sounds just random at the moment. I am interested in seeing how they fit it in. Better be good with all this negative hype!

[Animositisomina]

Has any of this actually been confirmed by a BioWare staff member? Not that they really could confirm it, but still... just hoping this isn't really true. I mean it can't be... can it?

[Cor7ana]

Naqey wrote...
the normandy gets stranded no matter what

That seems like... So weird.

That goes against a classical western writing technique of... oh, you know, bringing **** full circle.

Dammit, another Halo comparison:

At the beginning of Halo: CE, the Master Chief is in the cryo pod. At the end of Halo 3 (legendary ending, methinks) he goes back into the cryo pod.

So, it would be logical to have at least the possibility of that full-circle ending with the end of the original Mass Effect trilogy. Shepard starts out with his/her crew on the Normandy and ends the trilogy with his crew, or at least with the ship.

[mass_zotz]

[quote]Rob_K1 wrote...

[quote]mass_zotz wrote...

[quote]blueruin wrote...

[quote]Quartof wrote...

Joker apparently tried to avoid beams from the relays and fails to do so, so the Normandy gets shot to some random backwater planet with no hope of recovery.[/quote]

Where is the evidence that this is true?

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 The destory ending is online but only have but joker des evade the worm hole or beam

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Holy crap what fail type by me. I'm not even gonna clean it up, lol

[Cor7ana]

Animositisomina wrote...

Has any of this actually been confirmed by a BioWare staff member? Not that they really could confirm it, but still... just hoping this isn't really true. I mean it can't be... can it?

This is not something Bioware would want to officially comment on. No matter what they say, there would be insane implications.

[Stokie Stallion]

Rob_K1 wrote...

mass_zotz wrote...

blueruin wrote...

Quartof wrote...

Joker apparently tried to avoid beams from the relays and fails to do so, so the Normandy gets shot to some random backwater planet with no hope of recovery.

Where is the evidence that this is true?

 The destory ending is online but only have but joker des evade the worm hole or beam

So, if the leaks are true:

It's a similar situation to the beginning of ME 2, where the Normandy gets attacked, ending up with Shepard dying. Similar in the sense that damage to the Normandy cannot be avoided.

Next, I do not actually want this answered but it is something worthwhile pondering on, why exactly is the Normandy near the Relays to begin with and such, so that it is in a position to end up how it does, alongside the crew? Again, context is everything.

As I stated, the two leakers have stated they enjoyed the ending. So, it is entirely possible that the ending plays out better than people are imagining.

And, regarding the 'leaks are true' bit, I am not saying they're incorrect. Neither am I saying the leaks are correct. I'm simply taking the wait and see approach.

Personally, a doom and gloom ending or a happy one will not bother me. Meaning I have no problem with the leaks if they turn out to be true. As long as everything leading up to the end is good and the game finishes with a bang that is impacting, then I'll be happy.

Amen, i just hope some people die, sacrifice hits home alot harder than omgzor we did it

[survivor_686]

Yeah...in response to OP, I find that kind of ending suspect at best. Trollers be trolling

[ussbones6]

Animositisomina wrote...

Has any of this actually been confirmed by a BioWare staff member? Not that they really could confirm it, but still... just hoping this isn't really true. I mean it can't be... can it?

They won't comment on spoilers before the game is "officially" released. Wait until next week sometime when people start beating the game. 

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

Cor7ana wrote...

So, it would be logical to have at least the possibility of that full-circle ending with the end of the original Mass Effect trilogy. Shepard starts out with his/her crew on the Normandy and ends the trilogy with his crew, or at least with the ship.

I'd be ok if the Normandy crash lands (well, guess that happens anyway ) near Shepard and he's reunited with the crew.

But then, there's the old man thing with the weird moon(s?)... :/

[mass_zotz]

Screw it here you go

[Quartof]

The old man is Zaeed.

And the little boy is Zaeed Jr.

It's the bad ending that happens when you fail so bad, that only Zaeed is left alive in the galaxy. But don't worry, Zaeed reproduces asexually so in a few hundred years that planet will be full of Zaeeds.

Modifié par Quartof, 29 février 2012 - 11:27 .

[humes spork]

txgoldrush wrote...

Here is where you argument fails, everyone is also using their tech, they die, their tech fails, such as the mass relays.

Thats another thing about sacrifice.

Indeed they do, and I'll paraphrase the game itself here by saying, the tech the Reapers want them to have, and leave lying around, so galactic civilization evolves along the means that will make them easiest to eliminate when it comes time to repeat the cycle.

Somehow I very strongly doubt the Reapers left one of their own lying around for the organic races of the galaxy to kill, reverse engineer, and use their own military technology -- all things that would give organic races a tactical edge or at the very least put them on even ground, thereby rendering the cycle much harder to complete -- against them, or god forbid improve upon it like for example Thanix cannons. Or discover how, hypothetically speaking, something like Indoctrination -- the Reapers' chief means of subterfuge and sabotage -- works and how to counter it.

The entire cycle is predicated upon starting and completing the extermination before the organic races can equal or surpass the level of technology the Reapers themselves have. That's why the Protheans succeeded in breaking the cycle -- they had their own mass relay and communications arrays outside the Reapers' network, facilities designed to research and develop bleeding-edge (for them) technology that was off the grid like that which was used to coopt the Keepers' programming.

[Espurr]

I can see the crew ending up stranded in some of the endings, but... it just makes no logical sense to me to have the crew stranded elsewhere even if Shepard is alive and on earth. It seems random and pointless and silly.

Are we sure the crew end up stranded even if Shep is alive? I know there's no other bink video file, but are we sure that file plays in EVERY ending? Could it not be replaced by something that isn't pre-rendered?

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

mass_zotz wrote...

Screw it here you go -snip-

We need to see what happens after that. 

[mass_zotz]

their no sound

Modifié par mass_zotz, 29 février 2012 - 11:28 .

[Darth_Trethon]

Nyaore wrote...

I'm fine with the idea that in most of the endings you get screwed over in some way, in fact I sort of expected it given how much it would cheapen the menace of the Reapers if you had an easy time of making it out of the war scott free. That said, I REALLY hope there is an ending that is at least 'mildly' happy for the Normandy and her crew. Otherwise I see another FO3 scenario where people flat out refuse to accept the endings available and headcanon in their own.

The whole separation issue smells like DLC to me.....the protheans made the conduit....a mass relay not built by the reapers. At this point I have little doubt that there will be some kind of reunion/romance based DLC.....people were asking for it in ME2 and the BioWare cofounders said they liked the idea and thought of doing it. It may also end up being a play past the ending DLC in the style of Fallout 3 if the Normandy gets fixed up. Fallout 3's best selling DLC was the one that fixed the ending and people will be asking for romance DLC more than ever now so look forward to it.

This whole thing reminds me of the ending of Thor(movie).....

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 29 février 2012 - 11:30 .

[Shatterhand1701]

Naqey wrote...

The endings are:

Destroy / Paragon
1. Synthetics Destroyed. Earth Destroyed. Shepard Dead.
2. Synthetics Destroyed. Earth Devastated. Shepard Dead.
3. Synthetics Destroyed. Earth OK. Shepard Dead.
4. Synthetics Destroyed. Earth OK. Shepard Survives. (this one is the hardest to obtain / best ending, see below)

Control / Renegade
1. Assuming Direct Control. Earth Destroyed. Shepard Dead.
2. Assuming Direct Control. Earth OK. Shepard Dead.

Merge
1. Synergy. Shepard Dead. EDI survives.

The "best" ending is the ultimate Paragon ending where Shepard survives. Both Control and Merge require Shepard to sacrifice himself in order to do it while the Destroy ending has Shepard being caught in a massive explosion. Shepard can survive the if you had an EMS of 4000, assuming the player alos accomplished certain criteria throughout the game. If not, you need an EMS of 5000 for Shepard to survive the Paragon ending. If Shepard survives, a short scene will fire that hints as such just before the credits roll.

taken from sa/pastebin

the Normandy gets stranded no matter what

Well, I'm not too crazy about the fate of the Normandy, but it certainly doesn't put me into a spittle-flecked, "preorder cancelled/Bioware boycotted" rage like it does for so many others.  And actually, I don't think I mind so much the idea of Shepard making the ultimate sacrifice in order to defeat the Reapers...almost seems more appropriate than some cheesy "everything's rainbows and smiles again" ending.  Heroes sometimes die, like it or not.

[Sashimi_taco]

ToastPants wrote...

I can see the crew ending up stranded in some of the endings, but... it just makes no logical sense to me to have the crew stranded elsewhere even if Shepard is alive and on earth. It seems random and pointless and silly.

Are we sure the crew end up stranded even if Shep is alive? I know there's no other bink video file, but are we sure that file plays in EVERY ending? Could it not be replaced by something that isn't pre-rendered?

I havn't seen the video nor do I want to, but things just don't add up. You may as well just have killed everyone that shep cares about. Joker is basically dead without medical supplies for his condition, garrus and tali will starve, liara will never see her kind again until she dies in 1000 years, and the rest of the crew doesn't have enough to make a viable population. Two of them are homosexual, are they supposed to have intercourse with other people just to have kids? 

It doesn't make any sense to kill off everyone your shep cares about when you have been building up these relationships the entire 3 games.