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[WarBaby2]

MordiMoro wrote...
On Tali's Face
We eventually decided that she gives you a memento of her pictures, but the team was throwing around a lot of pictures and designs until we decided on something and said "Yup, that's her".

That's so cheap... everything to not have to come up with what Quarians actually look like... let alone model them... like female Turians.

Besides it's not well done... when should this picture have been taken? Tali on a planet without her suit?

Modifié par WarBaby2, 16 mars 2012 - 03:59 .

[TheRevanchist]

MordiMoro wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

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Yea...Bioware was SOOO creative...

On Tali's Face
We eventually decided that she gives you a memento of her pictures, but the team was throwing around a lot of pictures and designs until we decided on something and said "Yup, that's her".

Mr Hudson...

Oh I know...still...they already had this which most people seemed Ok with...btw thats not really Fan art...the guy use to work for them...

[Sacred Of the Grey Wardens]

I have something to say to bioware.

If this is how you wanted the game to end, with and ending that gets a majority of your fanbase upset with you and lose the future sales from them, and get bad publicity over it. Then good job, you did what you set out to do. But you've lost your fanbase's trust, and we will never forget what has been done.

If this was something you set up to troll us, and you have something waiting in the wings to make this all better, then you better get it out quick, because the longer you wait, the more of us are losing faith in you. If a fix is there then use it, don't risk a very loyal and large fanbase over a bit of publicity or money. It will come back to haunt you.

The Mass effect series has been a great ride and it has a right to be respected up to the very end. These ending don't do that, yeah maybe having one of the endings be like this would be great, but give us some options.

Like in Dragon Age: Origins(you remember this game don't you bioware??), at the end there were different endings:
1. You died to end the blight, and everyone rejoiced and honored your death. Life went on and rebuilding started.
2. The other warden died to end the blight, leaving you to rebuild the grey wardens, and help get the country back on it's feet.
3. You survived the final battle, and got to live out your life with you LI(either as queen/king, or lover).
In all those endings you also got to know what happened with your companions, how they survived after the battle, what they went to do, and what may be next for them and your character.

We're not asking for you to completely overhaul the endings, just give us options like in DA:O.
Maybe like these:
1. (Current Ending(the only difference is a color so they are one ending)) Shepard dies to save the galaxy, but in the process the relays are destroyed and the fleets are stranded on earth. While the Normandy escapes the relays and crashes on an unknown planet.
2. Shepard ends the war, and the reapers are defeated. The fleets return to their homeworlds to begin rebuilding and the galaxy starts to heal from the wounds given by the reapers. Shepard retires and lives their life with their LI.
3. Shepard ends the war, but dies to defeat the reapers. They are honored for their death, and named a legend among all the species. Possible if MaleShep(femshep/liara) LI(Liara/Tali/Ashley) could have had a child after war, a welcome piece of the man(or woman(femshep) for Liara) that they loved.

see these wouldn't be that hard to make.

Until a decision has been reached by Bioware, we will be waiting and listening for news.

we will hold the line until the end.

SSV Midwest, Sacred out.

[Hydralysk]

Generic Name wrote...

Vancouver fleet reporting in.

I see there has been no comment by BioWare. They do know consumers like to buy good products don't they?

Their excuse is "We want everyone to finish the game" so far, don't see how that really matters since from what I've seen people are split into 3 pretty clear groups.

1) The ending sucks change it
2) The ending sucks but changing is BLASPHEMY and you should all be ashamed of yourselves
3) (by far the least popular one) The ending is fine, you're just not intelligent enough to be able to see it

Modifié par Hydralysk, 16 mars 2012 - 04:00 .

[Cybermortis]

If I just just can't understand what Bioware was thinking when they opted to include this 'three colours fits all' ending in the game. I REALLY can't understand how or why they would think keeping silent or giving cryptic replies to the request to change the ending is going to help them right now.

We are told that BW has an announcement of some sort about ME3 at PAX on the 6th April. We don't know what this announcement will be about, in an ideal world it will be about an endings DLC although I'm not holding my breath - I fully expect some MP DLC being announced...probably followed either by a mass walkout or the poor sods on the stage being torn to shreds seconds later.

But even if this is an endings DLC forcing customers to wait a month after getting their game to get what many, if not most, would consider a complete product - or at least news that they will be getting one - is simply far too long. By this point customers will have moved on to something else. Most likely something that does not have the Bioware or EA logo on it...and they will not be coming back to either brand any time soon.

Gamers you see have long memories, far longer than the industry gives them credit for. All you have to do is look at the number of people on here who reference Dragon Age 2, a game no doubt EA/BW hoped and assumed we'd have forgotten about a year later. We especially have long memories when it is our hard earned cash buying their product - and given the age rating of ME3 it is probably safe to assume that the majority of customers paid with their own money, not their parents.

Sure, I can accept that BW had a collective brain-fart and simply didn't expect their customers to raise such a fuss. I can accept that maybe because of this they had nothing to fall back on. But come on guys, its been almost two weeks since the first release of the game. If you SERIOUSLY expect us to think that you haven't spent that time to consider what to do next, and haven't come to a decision one way or another....

Enough with the mind games, it is time for an answer. Our calls for a change are not going to go away, and in fact are getting louder by the hour. If we go we are not coming back...as in coming back to your products. We'll find other companies that give us what they said they would give us, or at least try damned hard to live up to their claims. Rather than deal with a company that pays lip-service to its customers and a lot to reviewers.

[Sunnyhat1]

kylecouch wrote...




Yea...Bioware was SOOO creative...

I don't know. Tali's my favourite too and her reveal was a huge issue for me. But i like it...

They could've hired a 100 modells and still never please the anticipation of the fans. Photoshopping was a bit cheap, yeah. They could've come up with an original image. But in the end behind every head modell is an actor with "makeup". And behind every voice is a hired Voice Actor.

I was upset for like 5 minutes but then decided it works for me.
Guess i like brunettes.

[alberta]

This is a fight to the finish - I want a happy ending for Sheppard and his entire crew. THEY deserve nothing less. If BW can give me a 50,000 year old Protean, raise Sheppard from the dead, have TIM find a BETTER and EASIER way to the citadel, allowing Sheppard to finally achieve a happy ending is the most logical and simplest path to travel. Red, green, and blue endings were the most ridiculous, illogical, and clumsiest direction possible.

[Peete]

kylecouch wrote...

MordiMoro wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

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Yea...Bioware was SOOO creative...

On Tali's Face
We eventually decided that she gives you a memento of her pictures, but the team was throwing around a lot of pictures and designs until we decided on something and said "Yup, that's her".

Mr Hudson...

Oh I know...still...they already had this which most people seemed Ok with...btw thats not really Fan art...the guy use to work for them...

I'm sad that they didn't use it.  

[cotheer]

As always, Angry Joe did an excellent review.

Has anyone else found Legions' "death" to be kinda "f*** it, lets just wrap this up", no explanation what so ever. >_>"

[Grunkera]

Ellykahn wrote...

Commander Eddard Stark of the SR2 Winterfell
Hero of the battle for Kings Landing and the first Human Warden of the North.

haha Commander Shepard got a Eddard Stark Game of Thrones ending. =(

Nah after Eddards death i still felt hope and though i read the books i knew what will happen to certain someones what gave me a big big relieve.

And by the way Eddard didn´t take down the whole galaxy with him.

[Matt_gekko88]

lodgik wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Story-Question: what happens to Tali in ME3 if she was exiled?

It's really hard the get the quarian to cooperate with the geth. You have to respect really precise criteria to do this

Will Tali return in any way?

[Astralify]

Cool quotes I found around the net:

>ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL OF THIS GAME DEVELOPMENT.

>I WILL IGNORE YOU PERSONALLY

>CHOICE IS AN ILLUSION

>THERE IS NO DIALOGUE, THERE IS NO CHOICE. WE ARE EA.

>GEARS CLONE. VIABLE POSSIBILITY. EASY TO PLEASE AUDIENCE AND CHEAPER PRODUCTION COSTS. SHOWS GREAT DLC POTENTIAL.

>THIS HURTS YOU

>GAMERS, YOU ARE BECOMING AN ANNOYANCE.

>LOW RATINGS, AND MEDIOCRE REVIEWS AND YOU FEEL THIS IS A VICTORY.

>KNOW THIS AS YOU BUY OUR PRODUCT IN VAIN.

>YOU WILL BEG FOR DLC...

Hold the line!

Modifié par Astralify, 16 mars 2012 - 04:03 .

[WarBaby2]

Sunnyhat1 wrote...
They could've hired a 100 modells and still never please the anticipation of the fans. Photoshopping was a bit cheap, yeah. They could've come up with an original image. But in the end behind every head modell is an actor with "makeup". And behind every voice is a hired Voice Actor.

Or they could have simply created an ingame model... seriously... Tali seeing her home for the first time without a mask... just the experession on her face... that could have been SO powerful.

[alberta]

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

lodgik wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Story-Question: what happens to Tali in ME3 if she was exiled?

It's really hard the get the quarian to cooperate with the geth. You have to respect really precise criteria to do this

Will Tali return in any way?

You guys want to do the Tali thing please open a Tali thread. Thank you.

[Fulgrim88]

http://www.youtube.c...ayer_embedded#!

This video was linked in the Forbes commentary on our "Entitlement". It does an amazing job explaining why calling fans, why calling customers "entitled" is utter BS - yet why it's so very convenient for big publishers and reviewers, and so very hurtful to gaming culture at large. Skip to about 10mins into the video, when he'll start tacking the issue regarding ME3

Hold the line, folks

Modifié par Fulgrim88, 16 mars 2012 - 04:04 .

[Generic Name]

WarBaby2 wrote...
Or they could have simply created an ingame model... seriously... Tali seeing her home for the first time without a mask... just the experession on her face... that could have been SO powerful.

But they had to use that time creating the AI God Child.

[Sunnyhat1]

WarBaby2 wrote...

Sunnyhat1 wrote...
They could've hired a 100 modells and still never please the anticipation of the fans. Photoshopping was a bit cheap, yeah. They could've come up with an original image. But in the end behind every head modell is an actor with "makeup". And behind every voice is a hired Voice Actor.

Or they could have simply created an ingame model... seriously... Tali seeing her home for the first time without a mask... just the experession on her face... that could have been SO powerful.

Ok i can wholeheartily agree to that. If they used the same image as base for the modell they could even claimed to put effort into it.

Hold The Line!

Modifié par Sunnyhat1, 16 mars 2012 - 04:05 .

[N7Gold]

Ramshakkle wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Story-Question: what happens to Tali in ME3 if she was exiled?

Well, if you also rewrote the Heretics in 2, you killed any chance at solving the war peacefully. The one character I brought over was the experimental one of 'what happens if I let her get exiled....?' Needless to say, the geth ended up wiped out, unfortunately. I just couldn't go against Tali....   Made the destroy option easier to stomach though.

That's not true, dude. I rewrote the heretic Geth, and still I managed to gain peace.

[Matt_gekko88]

alberta wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

lodgik wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Story-Question: what happens to Tali in ME3 if she was exiled?

It's really hard the get the quarian to cooperate with the geth. You have to respect really precise criteria to do this

Will Tali return in any way?

You guys want to do the Tali thing please open a Tali thread. Thank you.

Ah, "yes" or "no" would have been enough. That's all I wanted to know *rolleyes*

[TheRevanchist]

Sunnyhat1 wrote...
I don't know. Tali's my favourite too and her reveal was a huge issue for me. But i like it...

They could've hired a 100 modells and still never please the anticipation of the fans. Photoshopping was a bit cheap, yeah. They could've come up with an original image. But in the end behind every head modell is an actor with "makeup". And behind every voice is a hired Voice Actor.

I was upset for like 5 minutes but then decided it works for me.
Guess i like brunettes.

I wasn't expecting hair at all actually....thought she was a cliche bald alien with a big head and tiny neck....was fine with me personally.

[Nyila]

Sunnyhat1 wrote...

kylecouch wrote...




Yea...Bioware was SOOO creative...

I don't know. Tali's my favourite too and her reveal was a huge issue for me. But i like it...

They could've hired a 100 modells and still never please the anticipation of the fans. Photoshopping was a bit cheap, yeah. They could've come up with an original image. But in the end behind every head modell is an actor with "makeup". And behind every voice is a hired Voice Actor.

I was upset for like 5 minutes but then decided it works for me.
Guess i like brunettes.

I don't know why everybody's so upset about this, at least she's really pretty, not like Garrus.. Not only Garrus is ugly, he also took a rocket to the face, and you guys complain about Tali? I was expecting her to have tentacles instead of hair, made her a bit more alien. But really, she's pretty, that's what matters.

Modifié par Nyila, 16 mars 2012 - 04:08 .

[unclee]

We need to keep things on topic. The issue of Tali's face needs it's own thread, so please take it elsewhere. We really don't want them to lock this thread.

[Adam-Sadface]

WvStolzing wrote...

She had a human hand with the last two digits chopped off.

I don't even want to think what they would have done with the feet.

It was terrible. I thought the fan art that came out ages ago was a perfect representation of how I had Tali in my mind:

http://www.gamesrada...-mass-effect-2/

Still, that is not why we are here.  HOLD THE LINE.

Modifié par Adam-Sadface, 16 mars 2012 - 04:06 .

[WarBaby2]

Generic Name wrote...

But they had to use that time creating the AI God Child.

As yea... and multiplayer and Kinect support... I remember.... sorry.