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[ErMacPE]

elirian_19 wrote...

Testing out the new signature. (Credit to whoever made it)

Holding the line.

Whoo hoo - and here I thought I was the only one!

Credit for the sig must go to Sl4sh3r - he's done a bucketload of them for the cause already!

[LordPhyxious]

Al-Qiliqi wrote...

Hydralysk wrote...

Dudemanley wrote...

I have a random question, jumping through a relay makes you move faster than light yes? How did they smack into that planet without being decimated?

Clearly you're supposed to come up with that explanation on your own, speculation is waht you want from a game right?

Jessica Merizan told on twitter that they never did use the relay, they were fleeing at FTL. And she also said, that the explosions of the mass relays aren't like those when they're hit by an asteroid.

Ending still sucks.

Hold the line!

So there are certain ways to blow apart a Mass Relay without it destroying the whole solar system?  Because I'm reasonably certain I saw the mass relay actually explode in the ending video. 

And if the Normandy wasn't in the mass relay network, and the Mass Relay didn't explode 'like that', then how is it that they were hit by the apparent non-explosion/shockwave, (which, incidentally must also have been travelling faster than the speed of light, since it overtook the Normandy flying at FTL speeds), and forced to crash on a planet?

And if they were just travelling FTL in the Sol system trying to outrun the explosion (that they didn't really know was coming), exactly what planet IS that that they crashed on?  

I don't think that adding MORE plotholes to the end is the way for Bioware to try to rectify this.  Just a thought.

[BCMakoto]

mulder1199 wrote...

Al-Qiliqi wrote...

Hydralysk wrote...

Dudemanley wrote...

I have a random question, jumping through a relay makes you move faster than light yes? How did they smack into that planet without being decimated?

Clearly you're supposed to come up with that explanation on your own, speculation is waht you want from a game right?

Jessica Merizan told on twitter that they never did use the relay, they were fleeing at FTL. And she also said, that the explosions of the mass relays aren't like those when they're hit by an asteroid.

Ending still sucks.

Hold the line!

did she use vulcan logic to explain the new teleportation device in the normandy?

Then it still does not make any sense that the Normandy is flying away from the battle, telling everyone:
"Alright, crew, command, peace we're out!" (Yes, from the video.).

Explaining everything now won't suvicide. I want an explanation in-game. WHAT happened to all those friends of mine, WHY did they run, WHAT was this "Shepard" taking a breathing for. WHY is the crucible like this, WHAT is it for a stupid reason that the "Reapers are killing organics so they won't be killed by synthetics.". And so on.

[spacefiddle]

wicked_being wrote...

The Big Palooka wrote...

raitori wrote...

http://www.forbes.co...or-video-games/

Wow, Forbes just has got our back on this lately.  Kind of nice - we've got enough people debating the merits of the endings themselves, but not as many sticking up for why it's okay to go all the way and stand up and say no, not good enough.

Nice read. You know I was thinking...if we win this, this'll put pressure on game companies to make better products and deliver on their promises. A victory for consumers. I don't get why our detractors don't see this

Because said detractors are not, and never have been, on the side of consumers.  They're being perfectly consistent.

[Jago360]

Scottish_highlander wrote...

AshleyMadelineWilliams wrote...

Wouldn't it have been easier to flood the earth with anti flee shampoo????....

Just fill the fleets with anti flee shampoo and bombs away!

Believe it or not that's essentially the plot of the film 'Evolution'

 yeah, awesome movie! love it!

[Dargus007]

Sorry if this has been posted, this post moves faster than the Normandy crew after Shepard gets hit with a reaper beam.

Regarding the Penny-Arcade strip. The comic is somewhat condescending, but Tycho has since posted some thoughts that align with much of our own way of thinking. Having read it, I'm less angry with him.

Link for the lazy: http://penny-arcade.com/2012/03/16

Personally, I think Gabe's view is very in keeping with his approach to gaming in general.

I don't agree, of course.

[spacefiddle]

mulder1199 wrote...

Al-Qiliqi wrote...

Hydralysk wrote...

Dudemanley wrote...

I have a random question, jumping through a relay makes you move faster than light yes? How did they smack into that planet without being decimated?

Clearly you're supposed to come up with that explanation on your own, speculation is waht you want from a game right?

Jessica Merizan told on twitter that they never did use the relay, they were fleeing at FTL. And she also said, that the explosions of the mass relays aren't like those when they're hit by an asteroid.

Ending still sucks.

Hold the line!

did she use vulcan logic to explain the new teleportation device in the normandy?

Actually, after she said the explosions "weren't the same," i tweeted back that if they weren't meant to be the same they shouldn't have used the exact same "explosion and parts flying off" animation.  Never got a reply to that one .

[alberta]

ashley_actually wrote...

alberta wrote...

Come on folks - this is far more bitter FOR BW than any of them could have ever imagined. ME3 turned out to be an utter disaster world wide - that has to very, very bitter for them. It is no wonder why they kep hoping things would get better first as Europe released which turned out to be the same reaction as North and South America. Their last hope for redemption rested on the far East which is also turning into an utter disaster for BW - and now those results are beginning to show the exact same reaction as those of us here on this thread and others.

This is a BETTER, BITTER blow for BW and its more than understandable for them to be so silent as they have - it is far worst than any of them could ever have imagine.

Sometimes no news is good news. If the evidence from the final hour app is true and this ending is the ending that they wanted and thought was good then they were not prepared for fan backlash of this magnitude. I don't know why anybody thought that ending was a proper cap off to the series but that is besides the point at the moment. With basically the  entire globe reacting the same way to the last 10 minutes of the game this is a poop storm of epic proportions. The vague responses from BioWare so far could simply be beause they don't know what to do about this yet. So keep up the pressure and tell them what WE want. Help them help themselves. 

Exactly - each of us now know the utter dejection we have all felt and how it has effected us in real life - these people (BW) are only human as well and are as capable as the rest of us of feeling utterly dejected and demoralized as the rest of us. After all their product blew up in their faces world wide - how devestating is that for them in their lives as well? We need to be respectful of their rejection and allow them time to come to terms with the horrible results all around. They too have to get themselves re-orginize and re-charged - just like us. So far we have done well giving them an outlet to find a better way for all of us. They WILL repond - BW is just beaten up at the moment as are all of us.

[Nex_Legis]

Nilofeliu wrote...

[...]

So, I call upon you my friends  (even though I never met you), my comrades, my brothers and sisters, I call upon you to not give into temptation. Do not allow their empty words to change our hearts, and do not allow their hollow promises to shatter our resolve. Now, more than ever before in the gaming history we must stand together as one. We must search for what it rightfully ours, our rights as paying customers, our dignity as men (and women) and our freedom to speak the truth whitout fear of prosecution in this matter.

I may be wrong, and if I am, it is very easilly to prove. All it requires is to the Bioware/EA team to make a public annoucement, a public apology, even if they do not mean to correct their mistake about the ending. But for us to acknowledge them they must first acknowledge us, because we are not going way...

WE ARE LEGION, FOR WE ARE MANY!

Now, get back and hold the danm Line!!!!

/Salute
/Nilo Feliu out.

At first the text wall scared me off, but I'm happy that I still read it. Very good post, well done.

I have to point out though that companies do not always focus on profit in the short run. Especially when the profit they would make in the long run will be much larger. I just wanted to say that not everyone is as shortsighted as you made it look like and there is actually still hope for us.

HOLD THE LINE.

[Matt_gekko88]

Joker and EDI

[Deventh]

"Hudson went on to promise fans single-player DLC, and that fan feedback will shape its content: "We have some really great multiplayer content and some really great single-player content coming over the air, (fan) feedback will become part of how we design that."

This is old news, but still gives some hope to us.

[mulder1199]

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Jessica Merizan told on twitter that they never did use the relay, they were fleeing at FTL. And she also said, that the explosions of the mass relays aren't like those when they're hit by an asteroid.

Ending still sucks.

Hold the line!

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did she use vulcan logic to explain the new teleportation device in the normandy?[/quote]

Then it still does not make any sense that the Normandy is flying away from the battle, telling everyone:
"Alright, crew, command, peace we're out!" (Yes, from the video.).

Explaining everything now won't suvicide. I want an explanation in-game. WHAT happened to all those friends of mine, WHY did they run, WHAT was this "Shepard" taking a breathing for. WHY is the crucible like this, WHAT is it for a stupid reason that the "Reapers are killing organics so they won't be killed by synthetics.". And so on.

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agreed, show me what happened, like you promised....say 'we aren't going to do a lost ending' then don't

this really is MASS EFFECT : DECEPTION!

[Al-Qiliqi]

Well they better come up with a good explanation now

[spacefiddle]

LPKerberos wrote...
WHAT is it for a stupid reason that the "Reapers are killing organics so they won't be killed by synthetics.". And so on.

To be fair, it's actually explained as "Reapers kill ADVANCED organics so they won't invent synthetics that rise up and kill ALL organics."

...I said fair, not logical!

[Dudemanley]

Wish I could photoshop and animate.. here's an idea I had:

EDI: Hormone levels suggest you want to perform intercourse with me.

Joker: So romantic laawwwwwl

[Goikiu]

spacefiddle wrote...

LPKerberos wrote...
WHAT is it for a stupid reason that the "Reapers are killing organics so they won't be killed by synthetics.". And so on.

To be fair, it's actually explained as "Reapers kill ADVANCED organics so they won't invent synthetics that rise up and kill ALL organics."

...I said fair, not logical!

And so you and your Shepard where given a magic wand (with space magic)  to change things, sure it isn't logical but fair.

[Valk72]

Just too funny XD

[Benirus]

Norwegian fleet reporting in after coms breakdown (Internet did a Shepard)

Any updates?

[BCMakoto]

spacefiddle wrote...

LPKerberos wrote...
WHAT is it for a stupid reason that the "Reapers are killing organics so they won't be killed by synthetics.". And so on.

To be fair, it's actually explained as "Reapers kill ADVANCED organics so they won't invent synthetics that rise up and kill ALL organics."

...I said fair, not logical!

So tell me why they go berserc on the organics if they could simply kill all synthetics and be like: "Never again, or you are next!". Or why they simply don't look if they actually try to invent synthetics which can kill, rather then go all berserc on them beforehand.

[Welsh Inferno]

Loving that our banners are EVERYWHERE on BSN now Hahaha. Its great to see.

[spacefiddle]

NovemEnuma wrote...

DaftArbiter wrote...

NovemEnuma wrote...

The price...of surviving/defeating once and for all an extinction cycle that been happening for millions of years; a bittersweet ending.

In a fictional game that lets us pick our own endings.

OH WAIT NOW YOU CAN'T BECAUSE WE WANT TO FORCE SOMETHING ON YOU






I'm not saying "preorder canceled" but this royally sucks the fun out of the game for me. Everything about making our own destiny...down the drain. Fallout 3 all over again!

BioWare said the ending(s) would make some people upset. The Mass Effect series is a dark sci-fi series, the best you can expect for almost anything in it is bittersweet. I mean...each Mass Effect game had a heroic, yet bittersweet ending. The "happiest" one would be Mass Effect 1, and even then, you knew impending doom was coming.

Bittersweet... you keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you think it means.

It does not apply to "I ended a cycle of mass murder by proceeding directly to universal genocide."

[Goikiu]

LPKerberos wrote...

spacefiddle wrote...

LPKerberos wrote...
WHAT is it for a stupid reason that the "Reapers are killing organics so they won't be killed by synthetics.". And so on.

To be fair, it's actually explained as "Reapers kill ADVANCED organics so they won't invent synthetics that rise up and kill ALL organics."

...I said fair, not logical!

So tell me why they go berserc on the organics if they could simply kill all synthetics and be like: "Never again, or you are next!". Or why they simply don't look if they actually try to invent synthetics which can kill, rather then go all berserc on them beforehand.

No no, the reapers are more smart the us, remember? 

[mulder1199]

Al-Qiliqi wrote...

Well they better come up with a good explanation now

it's really fairly simple at this point, if they want to keep their 'artistic integrity' they'll announce a DLC much like the 'rescue dlc' that was talked about and say....we never planned on not leaving you hanging.....pat us on the back for being so passionate about their product and sit back and watch the money roll in....


or they'll say tough cookies and lose customers

[Shoulin]

Benirus wrote...

Norwegian fleet reporting in after coms breakdown (Internet did a Shepard)

Any updates?

None so far, other than ME3 twitter acceping ideas for ending. (Not sure if serious.)

Hold the line!