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[Marta Rio]

Here's a question for people who read the initial script leak months ago and the spoilers from the last few days:

How closely do the leaked endings match the script leak? I'm asking because I'm surprised there wasn't a bigger uproar months ago if it's indeed true that the "happiest" ending leaves Shep and his crew separated at the end. (I mean, if we had known about this months ago, there might have been a chance that our whining and moaning might have led to something...)

[Risselda]

Modifié par Risselda, 01 mars 2012 - 12:31 .

[Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut]

humes spork wrote...

WarBaby2 wrote...

Risselda wrote...
I like this....and its true...all the species involved in the fight would be here...they'd have to figure something out...or overpopulation...starvation...oh my

Oh my... I think you just nailed the premise of the Mass Effect MMO.^^

Eat the quarians first, nobody'll miss them.

That only helps the Turians, though. Errybody else needs to find someone non-dextro to munch on.

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

Anyway, time to hit the bed (in a good way), catch you all tomorrow.

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

KateKane wrote...

RazorrX wrote...

So what if all the endings suck? It doesn't Matter.
So what if everything we did prior to ME3 was for nothing in the final analysis? It just doesn't Matter
So what if RiouHotu gets to turn someone in for proving an ending? It just doesn't matter.

Because at the end of the day, Bioware is gonna make a crap load of money off of the preorders and that was good enough for DA2.

But poor word of mouth resulted in DA2 having weak post-launch sales and poor DLC sales.

At least ME3 is the last of a trilogy. Dragon Age has to win back fans with its third installment. In the end though this doesn't endear them as a company to their players.

[Mmw04014]

Marta Rio wrote...

Here's a question for people who read the initial script leak months ago and the spoilers from the last few days:

How closely do the leaked endings match the script leak? I'm asking because I'm surprised there wasn't a bigger uproar months ago if it's indeed true that the "happiest" ending leaves Shep and his crew separated at the end. (I mean, if we had known about this months ago, there might have been a chance that our whining and moaning might have led to something...)

I haven't read the leak but I'm pretty sure there wasn't anything about the Normany crew being stranded. It vaguely described the three endings, but I don't think it was very descriptive.

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Spoiler
He's(male in this ending) laying amongst rubble and you see his chest rise, cuts after that.
End Spoiler

The bink video (because that's the only thing I saw on it) is ambiguous on gender and the face isn't shown. But just doing the *breathe* -> black screen is kind of... meh.

I suppose we're supposed to be happy with a "survival" ending which, for all we know is the beginning of a death rattle.

[Prom001]

oh man next week wednesday & thursday are going to be fun.

[Quartof]

I think Shepard should see Wrex just one more before s/he dies.

[Adragalus]

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Spoiler
He's(male in this ending) laying amongst rubble and you see his chest rise, cuts after that.
End Spoiler

The bink video (because that's the only thing I saw on it) is ambiguous on gender and the face isn't shown. But just doing the *breathe* -> black screen is kind of... meh.

I assume there will be more content intercut/after these cutscenes, rendered ingame, as in ME2.Think about it... this excludes all the stuff with your custom shep. I'm pretty sure they'd had cutscenes with that in it.

[Risselda]

wait...actually...putting it in perspective...
we'd have....turian, asari, salarian, human, rachni, geth, krogan, drell/hanar/elcor....do they even have an army?
All floating around in one solar system. If we they cant figure out mass relay technology....

The turian eat the quarian. The hanar eat the rest of us.

Maybe the ending isn't so dull.

[GrandpaPorridge]

Does anybody know who the final boss is?

[Cor7ana]

GrandpaPorridge wrote...

Does anybody know who the final boss is?

Conrad Verner.

Can we confirm that he has a temple in Shepard's name?

[humes spork]

Quartof wrote...

You'll die.

Only turians would be able to eat quarians because of the DNA thing....then what? 

This is what I meant. Why would a human eat a quarian? That's just nasty.

The turians can eat the quarians, then the turians can just eat donuts (what, they said in ME1 turians can eat and actually like donuts) until they've set up dextro-DNA food production on Mars or something. Forget the fact the quarians have greenhouse ships and food production facilities actually in the migrant fleet. If the turians eat the quarians anyways, they get all that lovely dextro-DNA food for themselves.

Modifié par humes spork, 01 mars 2012 - 12:39 .

[Chrillze]

Risselda wrote...

wait...actually...putting it in perspective...
we'd have....turian, asari, salarian, human, rachni, geth, krogan, drell/hanar/elcor....do they even have an army?
All floating around in one solar system. If we they cant figure out mass relay technology....

The turian eat the quarian. The hanar eat the rest of us.

Maybe the ending isn't so dull.

Bow before your hanar overlords

[XX55XX]

Even though the endings sound lazy, I don't find it that bad. Yes, there will be some disappointment for those hoping for wedding bells, but there isn't anything inherently wrong with the endings. Whether the story justifies them is a different matter. 

[Quartof]

Nothing inherently wrong with the endings?

THEY INVOLVE LITERAL MAGIC!

[CerberusSoldier]

aries1001 wrote...

I haven't read the whole thread, but 55 or so pages of it, so I have a rather good idea of what people seem to upset about. To me, it seems like most people want - or wanted - a nice ending like the endig to Star Wars or Dragon Age: Origins in which the big bad guys are defeated and all is nice and soft and well in the world again.

If - and I'll use this cautiously and deliberately - the endings we're discussing here are real or at least semi-real, it seems to me that Bioware has us make a choice - save the crew but at the cost of Earth or save Earth but as the cost of the crew. And then some endings in between, as I can tell from the 55 pages I've read. Shepard does what he have to do to stop the reapers - at all cost. I seem to clearly remeber the very first gameplay video or video developer interview in which Bioware ME3 devs. said this. And I thought to myself on, not again...

Warning: End spoilers for Planescape: Torment, Oblivion and Neverwinter Nights and Fallout 3 to come.

And by that I mean this: Maybe there's an ending in which Shepard will sacricise himself to save humanity, his crew or both. And while this ending certainly was edgy back in 2000 or 2001 when a little game called Planescape: Torment was released by now it has become overused and rather cliché, as I see it. It is like every game developer tries to emulate or do something similar to what PS: Torment did 12 years ago. However, in that game, this ending actually made sense. (The Name less One is immortal so he chooses to not live anymore - as I remember it).

And then Bethesda had this ending in Oblivion and in Fallout 3, while Obsidian in the NWN2 ending let everyone fall into a cave (I think?) thus setting the scene for the expansion(s). Does the end to NWN 2 sound a lot similar to what Bioware are planning or have planned for the Normany crew, e.g. marooned on a planet with no places to go. And that's if and when the rumours about the endings are true...

As for Shepard being together with his Love Interest (LI) can't see why this can't happen; LI and Shepard gets to go together on the last mission/quest in the game, either surviving it or dying from defeating the Reapers in a glorious battle. As I see it, people want what they call a good ending i.e. endings that restores the world order back to where it was before all this began. But, realistically and also in the game's universe, can you see this happening? And by this I mean that it'll be hard and difficult to go back to a place where you - or rather we the people on Earth - haven't met the Turians, the Salarians, the Krogans etc.

If the rumours about the endings are true - and to me they could be either be true or not - then the narrative structure ends with what is known as an open ending as opposed to a closed ending. A closed ending is one like the ending in Star Wars or Dragon Age: Origins, everything is neatly tied up and put in its proper place again - or as similar and reasonably as it can be. An open ending is one where this is not so. Dragon Age 2 has such a ending. There's a war looming and threathing. The Warden and the Hero of Ferelden are both gone and no-one has seen or heard from them. In short, we do not know, what'll follow next. To me, it sounds like the endings of ME3 (if true that is) build upon this - and are open endings.

To me, that is the best endings there are. It means that I, as a player, a reader, etc. get to use my imagination and guess what happens next untill maybe the devs. answer this. I also like dark, sinister end broody endings that doesn't end in - let's call it - an awards ceremony like in the Star Wars or Dragon Age endings. Not every game or book should have a closed ending - and ME3 probably is one of the games where an open ending fits it better (than a closed ending).

   




The endings are real and the videos and pics are starting to back it up

[Turel11234]

Quartof wrote...

I think Shepard should see Wrex just one more before s/he dies.

 watched a vid of wrex gettin' nuked in the face by a reaper destroyer some five min ago - in tune to an unfitting japanese music.
I'll dig up the link soon.

[Elegana]

XX55XX wrote...

Even though the endings sound lazy, I don't find it that bad. Yes, there will be some disappointment for those hoping for wedding bells, but there isn't anything inherently wrong with the endings. Whether the story justifies them is a different matter. 

Could always have a Pirates of the Caribbean 4 wedding is scene where Will and his girlfriend are fighting pirate and Will goes "Marry me!", she says yes, and they kiss mid battle. Haha.

Or it's a small military wedding aboard the Normandy.

[CerberusSoldier]

Marta Rio wrote...

Here's a question for people who read the initial script leak months ago and the spoilers from the last few days:

How closely do the leaked endings match the script leak? I'm asking because I'm surprised there wasn't a bigger uproar months ago if it's indeed true that the "happiest" ending leaves Shep and his crew separated at the end. (I mean, if we had known about this months ago, there might have been a chance that our whining and moaning might have led to something...)

   


They are the exact same ones only difference is we now have more detail about them . The leaked script was the final script .

[WvStolzing]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

So what is the truth? Is there a video of the normandy being stranded?

There's a video of it getting sucked into the mass-relay-explosion-generated-wormhole-beam-thingy.

[Risselda]

A dev posted on: http://social.biowar...7/index/9544880

I think that is evidence enough that it is true and will not change

[CerberusSoldier]

Mmw04014 wrote...

Marta Rio wrote...

Here's a question for people who read the initial script leak months ago and the spoilers from the last few days:

How closely do the leaked endings match the script leak? I'm asking because I'm surprised there wasn't a bigger uproar months ago if it's indeed true that the "happiest" ending leaves Shep and his crew separated at the end. (I mean, if we had known about this months ago, there might have been a chance that our whining and moaning might have led to something...)

I haven't read the leak but I'm pretty sure there wasn't anything about the Normany crew being stranded. It vaguely described the three endings, but I don't think it was very descriptive.

   


That part seems to be new as in a epilogue at the end of the credits

[Jacy Pane]

Quartof wrote...

I think Shepard should see Wrex just one more before s/he dies.

 

Poor Wrex.