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#38526
Esker02

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It's not THAT bad of a reply. He notes that the players have long played a role in shaping the story, and will continue to shape the direction of the content they plan on releasing over the next year. I think he glosses over our complaints a bit ("more closure, more answers, and more time to say goodbye to their stories" is not exactly synonymous with "these endings are horrible and make no sense"), but all in all, it's decent. PR speak perhaps, but nothing excluded. I'd stay hopeful, guys.

And yeah, like others have said, if the idea was "an inspiring and uplifting ending," I think something went terribly, terribly wrong. But we'll see.

#38527
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Hold. The. Line.

#38528
Sacred Of the Grey Wardens

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silencemayday wrote...

Scottish_highlander wrote...

Crossleft wrote...

Darkspazztic wrote...

Lwyn wrote...

Also, I need to add that all my depression is now gone, replaced with unholy rage. A company so hellbent on destroying their flagship franchise does not deserve attention from anyone or anything.
But Shepard does, so I will hold. Alone if need be.


I'll be damned if you're here alone.

I stand with you.

I stand with anyone willing to stay.


you have my bow!

And my Vindicator!


and my alcohol cabinet. 
(we can also just call it fridge.)


as well as my Black Widow.

#38529
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Ramshakkle wrote...




My defense, fairly knowledgable in history in actuality.



OH GOD: I totally missed Animal House ref.......*hands his head in shame*  

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RussianOrc wrote...

Doppelgaenger wrote...

Luiginius wrote...

Game Over. Bye bye bioware


He said nothing concrete. In fact he said, that we as a community will influence further content! So: Be patient and hold the line!

he is saying that 99% of the players loved the ending.
what can we possibly expect after a statement such as this?
if he "thinks" everybody loved the ending he won't change it.


He's downplaying the response to make it seem minor. If it was minor he wouldn't even need to discuss it, would he?

#38531
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Cybermortis wrote...

We are NOT losing. We have increasing support from various media outlets - including most importantly Forbes...who are probably going to tear his comments apart for the short-sighted garbage they are. What they want is for us to give up, so everything can be quietly forgotten and they can pretend the game was a huge success and they did not wrong.

What we do is ignore him. He clearly has less grasp of reality than the cast of Jersey Shore, and more importantly at the end of the day he is NOT the one who'll get to make the call about an ending DLC. We hold and his bosses are going to tell him in no uncertain terms to make a bloody ending DLC while Bioware has some customers left.

The alternative is that Bioware loses a HUGE number of its customers, this is reported and noticed by investors who will ALSO be reading about how those customers are unlikely to ever go back to BW. The Share price drops like a stone, BW/EA goes into bust and another company comes along, buys the rights to Mass Effect and releases an ending DLC so they can continue making games in that setting.


Geez I leave for a few hours and I miss crucial info. Who is Forbes going to tear a new one?

#38532
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Sacred Of the Grey Wardens wrote...

Xyalon wrote...

EXCUSE ME

We have not failed until they explicitly say "The ending of the series is what we have given you, you're not getting anything else to change it"

Until then we stand firm, we stand strong, we stand resolute and we hold. the. bloody. line.


Thank you.


reposting because this is absolutly brilliant.


^ Yep. Guys, he just aknowledge that a lot of us are upset, and that ME would have never existed if it wasn't for us. And he just said they will take our opinions in consideration, so...this is more than what has happened in the past week. THIS is when we have to push for it. We just moved forward. 

#38533
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Annaleah wrote...

Doppelgaenger wrote...

Darkspazztic wrote...

Lwyn wrote...

Also, I need to add that all my depression is now gone, replaced with unholy rage. A company so hellbent on destroying their flagship franchise does not deserve attention from anyone or anything.
But Shepard does, so I will hold. Alone if need be.


I'll be damned if you're here alone.

I stand with you.

I stand with anyone willing to stay.


Till my bones get as brittle as Joker's, my lungs as ****ed up as Thane's, and my mind as corrupted as Saren's, I will stand here and HOLD THE LINE!


Till my face is as scarred as Garrus's, and my immune system as weak as Tali's!


Till my body is holed as Legion's, and my face as scarred as Zaeed's!

#38534
Doppelgaenger

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RussianOrc wrote...

Doppelgaenger wrote...

Luiginius wrote...

Game Over. Bye bye bioware


He said nothing concrete. In fact he said, that we as a community will influence further content! So: Be patient and hold the line!

he is saying that 99% of the players loved the ending.
what can we possibly expect after a statement such as this?
if he "thinks" everybody loved the ending he won't change it.


That he writes that doesn't mean he believes it. Even if he does we can change his mind, we are the fans and customers, Bioware is a company and the developer. They exist because we allow it, and they will change the ending because we demand it! That is how capitalism works. Sooner or later a guy with a white collar will tell them that their profits are hurting! At this moment we win.

Hold the line.

#38535
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That statement was decidedly.... bland. No acknowledgement other than "Ya, we're going to be making more DLC" pretty much.

However, I will still HOLD THE LINE!

#38536
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Tired of the PR doublespeak. People (including me) are going to riot when the first DLC is some Omega nonsense.

#38537
Cybermortis

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SSV Mortis withdrawing from line for refuelling.

Stand tall, hold the line and don't let the buggers get you down.

#38538
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Hey guys, it's been a day or two since I've posted. I've read a little bit here and there but I'm not up to speed on everything that's going on and I don't have the time to go through the 300+ pages I missed.

Can anyone give me a quick summary of whats going on?

#38539
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Alamandorious wrote...

We are not the minority. We are the majority.

We are the fans who support this company, who believe in it, who know what greatness it's capable of. We are the ones who are passionate about Mass Effect, the sci fi game series that has been the most epic game of our generation, and all generations preceeding it.

We are the ones standing tall against the darkness of greed that wants to envelope this, perhaps our most beloved of game producers...and if that post is true, if it is the gods honest truth of the situation, now we are needed more than ever.

So many times we, the gamers, have seen inferior products on the shelves of stores at premium prices...and we have bought them, because there was no other option. Games over the years have lost the creativity, the drive, becoming former shells of themselves. Mass Effect in its entireity was not only the last, best hope for quality product, it was the springboard for a new beginning in the industry.

Had the series ended on a high note, it would have been unrivaled, without peer...it would have been an example for -all- game companies to follow. The entire industry to follow. If Bioware kept producing games of its quality, there would be no question of its superiority, and its loyal fanbase would grow. The others would HAVE to take notice.

They are stumbling now, in the darkness of greed...we must not let them falter, we must continue to have our voices heard.

We must hold the line...for if we don't...

Who will?


Who just raised $55,000 for charity in less than 48 hours?  We did.
Did you know that anti-SOPA groups just tried a charity drive last week?  They raised a total of $15,000 and had trained PR fundraisers with them.

We've already changed the face of gaming.  We've done something historical.  We have had more media attention brought to our cause in a week than some political candidates have their entire careers..

Change starts with everyone.  Don't let yourself be disappointed, demand excellence of yourself, and of others and you will bring out the best in everything.

Do NOT sell yourselves short people.  We hold the cards here.  They can say whatever they want.  We can petition their parent company if we don't feel our greivances have been properly redressed here.

Our greatest strength is each other.  We will hold the line, because we are not going to let the series end like this.  There is so much we've already done.  These next days and weeks may be hard due to the length and the lack of novelty... but the rewards will be worth it.

We are entitled.  We are entitled to excellence in the products we buy, we are entitled to receive excellence from a company who we purchased a product from BECAUSE of their reputation for excellence, and we are entitled to receive a redress of greivances when we do not receive said excellence.

Hold the line.

#38540
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Nice to see Casey "Addressing" the issue by saying how amazing everyone else thinks the game is

Why didn't he just post this instead

images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090514011807/uncyclopedia/images/b/bf/Middle-finger.jpg

#38541
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I just wanna say that I love you guys, some are losing hope but most of you are staying strong and I admire and respect you al *salutes* Oorah! (I always love that marine thing so cool)

I will be standing next to you guys for as long as it takes!

#38542
Cybermortis

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Computim wrote...

Alamandorious wrote...

We are not the minority. We are the majority.

We are the fans who support this company, who believe in it, who know what greatness it's capable of. We are the ones who are passionate about Mass Effect, the sci fi game series that has been the most epic game of our generation, and all generations preceeding it.

We are the ones standing tall against the darkness of greed that wants to envelope this, perhaps our most beloved of game producers...and if that post is true, if it is the gods honest truth of the situation, now we are needed more than ever.

So many times we, the gamers, have seen inferior products on the shelves of stores at premium prices...and we have bought them, because there was no other option. Games over the years have lost the creativity, the drive, becoming former shells of themselves. Mass Effect in its entireity was not only the last, best hope for quality product, it was the springboard for a new beginning in the industry.

Had the series ended on a high note, it would have been unrivaled, without peer...it would have been an example for -all- game companies to follow. The entire industry to follow. If Bioware kept producing games of its quality, there would be no question of its superiority, and its loyal fanbase would grow. The others would HAVE to take notice.

They are stumbling now, in the darkness of greed...we must not let them falter, we must continue to have our voices heard.

We must hold the line...for if we don't...

Who will?


Who just raised $55,000 for charity in less than 48 hours?  We did.
Did you know that anti-SOPA groups just tried a charity drive last week?  They raised a total of $15,000 and had trained PR fundraisers with them.

We've already changed the face of gaming.  We've done something historical.  We have had more media attention brought to our cause in a week than some political candidates have their entire careers..

Change starts with everyone.  Don't let yourself be disappointed, demand excellence of yourself, and of others and you will bring out the best in everything.

Do NOT sell yourselves short people.  We hold the cards here.  They can say whatever they want.  We can petition their parent company if we don't feel our greivances have been properly redressed here.

Our greatest strength is each other.  We will hold the line, because we are not going to let the series end like this.  There is so much we've already done.  These next days and weeks may be hard due to the length and the lack of novelty... but the rewards will be worth it.

We are entitled.  We are entitled to excellence in the products we buy, we are entitled to receive excellence from a company who we purchased a product from BECAUSE of their reputation for excellence, and we are entitled to receive a redress of greivances when we do not receive said excellence.

Hold the line.


Well said.

#38543
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Hold the Line!

#38544
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Scottish_highlander wrote...

Crossleft wrote...

Darkspazztic wrote...

Lwyn wrote...

Also, I need to add that all my depression is now gone, replaced with unholy rage. A company so hellbent on destroying their flagship franchise does not deserve attention from anyone or anything.
But Shepard does, so I will hold. Alone if need be.


I'll be damned if you're here alone.

I stand with you.

I stand with anyone willing to stay.


you have my bow!

And my Vindicator!


And my Scimtar!

#38545
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So, after getting a cup of tea and contemplating Mr. Hudson's response, I realized that overall they still haven't really said anything. It was mostly just praising the fans and his coworkers (which is expected, and great) and then saying that they still aren't going to say anything about what everyone wants to hear about.

So, my hope has returned ever so slightly and my mood is uplifted (partially due to the chai tea)

#38546
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Bionic Weapon wrote...

Cybermortis wrote...

We are NOT losing. We have increasing support from various media outlets - including most importantly Forbes...who are probably going to tear his comments apart for the short-sighted garbage they are. What they want is for us to give up, so everything can be quietly forgotten and they can pretend the game was a huge success and they did not wrong.

What we do is ignore him. He clearly has less grasp of reality than the cast of Jersey Shore, and more importantly at the end of the day he is NOT the one who'll get to make the call about an ending DLC. We hold and his bosses are going to tell him in no uncertain terms to make a bloody ending DLC while Bioware has some customers left.

The alternative is that Bioware loses a HUGE number of its customers, this is reported and noticed by investors who will ALSO be reading about how those customers are unlikely to ever go back to BW. The Share price drops like a stone, BW/EA goes into bust and another company comes along, buys the rights to Mass Effect and releases an ending DLC so they can continue making games in that setting.


Geez I leave for a few hours and I miss crucial info. Who is Forbes going to tear a new one?


This was posted awhile ago, notice how it's falling exactly in line with how this guy is saying the PR textboook works.

#38547
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Wraith 02 wrote...

Nice to see Casey "Addressing" the issue by saying how amazing everyone else thinks the game is

Why didn't he just post this instead

images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090514011807/uncyclopedia/images/b/bf/Middle-finger.jpg


Because he needed to let us know about the DLC they're working on.

#38548
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Hydralysk wrote...

TheBull wrote...

Scottish_highlander wrote...

This has probably been posted already but...Casey's response
http://social.biowar.../index/10089946


Guys its over this is it.

WE FAILED


He never said anything about ending DLC. The only thing this proves is that they didn't have a secret 'good' ending up their sleeve which I believe had been established before but everyone seems to forget/gloss over that.


Don't give up hope everyone. There's always hope. Just need to hold the line!!

#38549
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Esker02 wrote...

It's not THAT bad of a reply. He notes that the players have long played a role in shaping the story, and will continue to shape the direction of the content they plan on releasing over the next year. I think he glosses over our complaints a bit ("more closure, more answers, and more time to say goodbye to their stories" is not exactly synonymous with "these endings are horrible and make no sense"), but all in all, it's decent. PR speak perhaps, but nothing excluded. I'd stay hopeful, guys.

And yeah, like others have said, if the idea was "an inspiring and uplifting ending," I think something went terribly, terribly wrong. But we'll see.


I was reading the "more closure, more answers, blah blah blah" part and wondering where the heck he got those ideas from. I mean, we obviously thought the game was amazing. I need to send Bioware a letter. They need to understand we LOVED the game but hated the ending. There is nothing else wrong with the game except the ending...and ems w/o multiplayer(but that's another story)

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Benth08x wrote...

Tired of the PR doublespeak. People (including me) are going to riot when the first DLC is some Omega nonsense.

it better not be an Omega DLC, Aria is pretty much advertising it in the game though :(