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#38801
Trunks Bordare

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What makes me more upset than anything is that no person from Bioware will even acknowledge that the fans are upset at the ending. It's all PR fancy wording and acknowledgement of the positive comments. The longer this goes on, the more I think they don't care and will not change the ending. Still, the line will be held. For Marauder Shields!!

#38802
Darth Garrus

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ashley_actually wrote...

The Big Palooka wrote...

Reposting this again, because everyone, everyone, everyone needs to read the first post of this thread:

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10084349/1

Hold the Line.


Yep that thread is a must read. 
Casey Hudson's comments are a reason to keep up the pressure not let off. If they really want our feedback for upcoming game content then we should give it to them. In a civil constructive manner of course. 


They have to get to the point where they can't ignore this anymore, or they realize that they will loose a lot by doing it.

And I think we have to keep the bringing the media into it. And Child's Play!

#38803
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Darkspazztic wrote...
*Snip*


You should really just say you were angered by it. :unsure:

Modifié par Generic Name, 17 mars 2012 - 03:07 .


#38804
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xHezz90 wrote...

Dj14365 wrote...

zephyrus92 wrote...

Dj14365 wrote...

Do we have any new developments or articles since about 3pm est. I've been watching some crazy bball upsets go down. Thanks for hold'n the line in my absence


This is the biggest news of the hour:

http://social.biowar.../index/10089946 

That is more then what we have been getting so I guess it is something. It doesn't adress any of our primary concerns though. I hope that they rectify the ending issue before releasing any other dlc. I'm sure it would be fun but there is zero chance of me and likely many of you purchasing it without the ending fixed. Honestly what would it really gain us to buy it if the end still sucks.


I know I for one won't be buying any DLC unless it has the words "Alternate endings" like you said what is the point in buying the DLC if the ending still sucks.


Totally. And i would also advice to NOT play the game until this DLC comes out. With the server synch, EA know how many people are playing. If we can make the " another ending " solution viable for them, they will give it to us. It's all about money.

#38805
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Generic Name wrote...

Darkspazztic wrote...

My initial reaction in words:

**** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** #############**** **** ##################**** **** ****!!!!


You should really just say you were angered by it. :unsure:


Yeah might want to filter some mroe of that profanity before they shut down the forum again :P

#38806
Darkspazztic

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Generic Name wrote...

Darkspazztic wrote...
*Snip*


You should really just say you were angered by it. :unsure:


Yes, but it's not as expressive. :P

#38807
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Computim wrote...

Xyalon wrote...

Then send your initial reaction in words.

If you remember my initial wall of text post, that's basically what I'm sending to them in email format.


I may send an email.  I don't really care if they have my address or anything, I just really don't like sending angry mail or email.. it's not who I am usually.  I like your idea of sending my initial reactions though... I'll think it over.  Thanks!


I agree with you on the angry mail. Mine isn't angry; mostly it's sad and confused and trying to explain what I felt I was promised and how I felt when that was taken away from me.

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Well a good news, Jessica Merizan is actually collecting feedback, go post here:

http://social.biowar...8213/1#10098513

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Generic Name wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

03:55 in Germany. Good morning!
Any news worth sharing?


Only this: http://social.biowar.../index/10089946


yay, multiplayer-DLC and robo-dogs for everyone! :wizard:

#38810
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TamiBx wrote...

 In case people didn't go to the other thread...

Jessica Merizan wrote...

Guys, this is an ongoing dialogue. Casey's post is not the final definitive answer to your concerns. This is a collaboration. 

In order to be successful in this, I need you to help me gathering feedback and tell us what you want to see. I understand that people are still feeling emotionally raw or untrusting, and I'm not saying it's not valid to feel that way. However, if you want to see your feedback implemented, this needs to become constructive and rational. 

Complaining more isn't going to get you what you want. Tell us what you need. Make polls, collect your thoughts. Chris and I are gathering this information and the developers are listening. 

This is a partnership. Let's have hope and make your voice heard - that includes positive feedback too (if you like something we're doing, tell us so we know to keep it up!). 


So, guys, let's get moving!! We need to be as organized as possible and make it clear that we do not want in game dlc (at least not yet) and what we want exactly from the end.

It is far from over. We just got them to really listen to us! 


is this a good cap bad cap, game? 

#38811
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The Big Palooka wrote...

Reposting this again, because everyone, everyone, everyone needs to read the first post of this thread:

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10084349/1

Hold the Line.


Wow, this is great! Thanks for reposting this!

People read THIS! :D

#38812
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The more they say "this is a partnership" the more I feel like they just broke up with me.

#38813
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TerrifiedKiz wrote...

Guys, Jessica just posted in the Casey topic and i'd like to quote her to show you that we're being heard and we just have to keep things civil and respectful towards BW.

"Jessica Merizan wrote...

Guys, this is an ongoing dialogue. Casey's post is not the final definitive answer to your concerns. This is a collaboration.

In order to be successful in this, I need you to help me gathering feedback and tell us what you want to see. I understand that people are still feeling emotionally raw or untrusting, and I'm not saying it's not valid to feel that way. However, if you want to see your feedback implemented, this needs to become constructive and rational.

Complaining more isn't going to get you what you want. Tell us what you need. Make polls, collect your thoughts. Chris and I are gathering this information and the developers are listening.

This is a partnership. Let's have hope and make your voice heard - that includes positive feedback too (if you like something we're doing, tell us so we know to keep it up!). "

HOLD THE LINE!


That, more than anything, is giving me a good measure of hope.

So come on people of the line!  Voice our feedback!

Let's have those blue children, those adopted Krogan, build a house on Rannoch...  And everything else that I'm potentially missing.

HOLD.  THE.  LINE!

#38814
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Darkspazztic wrote...

Generic Name wrote...

Darkspazztic wrote...
*Snip*


You should really just say you were angered by it. :unsure:


Yes, but it's not as expressive. :P


  ? ;)

#38815
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US Fleet; Office of Support and Logistics, still holding strong, ready to ship caffeine to all those holding the line.

#38816
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Darth Suetam wrote...

ashley_actually wrote...

The Big Palooka wrote...

Reposting this again, because everyone, everyone, everyone needs to read the first post of this thread:

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10084349/1

Hold the Line.


Yep that thread is a must read. 
Casey Hudson's comments are a reason to keep up the pressure not let off. If they really want our feedback for upcoming game content then we should give it to them. In a civil constructive manner of course. 


They have to get to the point where they can't ignore this anymore, or they realize that they will loose a lot by doing it.

And I think we have to keep the bringing the media into it. And Child's Play!


This is exactly it, they haven't said yea or nea yet so the fight isn't over, make them realize this problem can't be silently swept under the rug.

Also, keep donating to Child's Play if you can people, make sure that as much good comes out of this as possible.

#38817
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anything new ive been gone sens bout 5?

#38818
Darkspazztic

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silencemayday wrote...

Darkspazztic wrote...

Generic Name wrote...

Darkspazztic wrote...
*Snip*


You should really just say you were angered by it. :unsure:


Yes, but it's not as expressive. :P


  ? ;)


EXACTLY!

#38819
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We are pushing forward! C:

Happiest I've been all week.

#38820
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Puppet_Guy wrote...

TerrifiedKiz wrote...

Guys, Jessica just posted in the Casey topic and i'd like to quote her to show you that we're being heard and we just have to keep things civil and respectful towards BW.

"Jessica Merizan wrote...

Guys, this is an ongoing dialogue. Casey's post is not the final definitive answer to your concerns. This is a collaboration.

In order to be successful in this, I need you to help me gathering feedback and tell us what you want to see. I understand that people are still feeling emotionally raw or untrusting, and I'm not saying it's not valid to feel that way. However, if you want to see your feedback implemented, this needs to become constructive and rational.

Complaining more isn't going to get you what you want. Tell us what you need. Make polls, collect your thoughts. Chris and I are gathering this information and the developers are listening.

This is a partnership. Let's have hope and make your voice heard - that includes positive feedback too (if you like something we're doing, tell us so we know to keep it up!). "

HOLD THE LINE!


That, more than anything, is giving me a good measure of hope.

So come on people of the line!  Voice our feedback!

Let's have those blue children, those adopted Krogan, build a house on Rannoch...  And everything else that I'm potentially missing.

HOLD.  THE.  LINE!


Everybody go give your feedback here : http://social.biowar...8213/1#10098513

When they will see that the only problem the majority of us have is the ending, they will fix it!!

#38821
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http://social.biowar.../index/10098213

Guys, this is where we need the really talented writers to come in as well. Anyone remember what page that post was on about the alt ending? The one with all the epilogues and shepard's children going to a new galaxy?

And please, please, please! Be respectful and formal as possible there. This is where they are going to collect their information from if we come off as a bunch of "Durrr fix ur own ending" (not saying anyone in this thread has, but just incase) then the momentum we just got (which is a hell of a lot more than we had 3 hours ago) goes away.

List your problems, talk about the plotholes and how you would like to see them patched, be specific as possible, talk about how the ending felt, use other Bioware games as examples, but most of all be as crystal clear as possible. This is where we stop just standing and holding the line, and start making steps forward with that line.

Modifié par Vandriel, 17 mars 2012 - 03:16 .


#38822
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We always intended that the scale of the conflict and the underlying theme of sacrifice would lead to a bittersweet ending—to do otherwise would betray the agonizing decisions Shepard had to make along the way. Still, we wanted to give players the chance to experience an inspiring and uplifting ending; in a story where you face a hopeless struggle for basic survival, we see the final moments and imagery as offering victory and hope in the context of sacrifice and reflection.

We've had some incredibly positive reactions to Mass Effect 3, from the New York Times declaring it “a gripping, coherent triumph”, to Penny Arcadecalling it “an amazing accomplishment”, to emails and tweets from players who have given us the most profound words of appreciation we've ever received.

But we also recognize that some of our most
passionate fans needed more closure, more answers, and more time to say goodbye to their stories—and these comments are equally valid. Player feedback such as this has always been an essential ingredient in the development of the series.


That my friends is a superb PR spin on 45,000 players and whoever is not on BSN. It effectively says, game over. There wont be another ending.

Well atleast the kids got a good chunk money outta this.

Modifié par Zhijn, 17 mars 2012 - 03:15 .


#38823
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SSV Gannett Peak reporting for duty. I would like to add my two cents on this PR weekend that Bioware/EA are throwing. It is a good sign for this movement. We are finally getting somewhere people. They are giving us free stuff and events to get us all to chill. Don't chill. This weekend is probably the most important phase of this movement. They are on the ropes. We need to keep hitting hard and fast. HOLD THE LINE!

#38824
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Puppet_Guy wrote...

TerrifiedKiz wrote...

Guys, Jessica just posted in the Casey topic and i'd like to quote her to show you that we're being heard and we just have to keep things civil and respectful towards BW.

"Jessica Merizan wrote...

Guys, this is an ongoing dialogue. Casey's post is not the final definitive answer to your concerns. This is a collaboration.

In order to be successful in this, I need you to help me gathering feedback and tell us what you want to see. I understand that people are still feeling emotionally raw or untrusting, and I'm not saying it's not valid to feel that way. However, if you want to see your feedback implemented, this needs to become constructive and rational.

Complaining more isn't going to get you what you want. Tell us what you need. Make polls, collect your thoughts. Chris and I are gathering this information and the developers are listening.

This is a partnership. Let's have hope and make your voice heard - that includes positive feedback too (if you like something we're doing, tell us so we know to keep it up!). "

HOLD THE LINE!


That, more than anything, is giving me a good measure of hope.

So come on people of the line!  Voice our feedback!

Let's have those blue children, those adopted Krogan, build a house on Rannoch...  And everything else that I'm potentially missing.

HOLD.  THE.  LINE!


I have no twitter account, but if someone could convey the blue squiddy babies and retirement on Eden Prime with Liara, It'd be much appreciated. :P

#38825
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It's 3am here and I should really bow out for the night. Stay cool, guys. Give the latest PR drivel the same amount of thought that was put into it. It said nothing of substance, but the fact they felt it necessary means we're making waves.