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[Jorojr]

Sweet. I thought I was screwed by purchasing ME 3 through Origin. It looks like American Express' shoppers protection has me covered. You know. Just in case.

I can (slightly) affect their bottom line, while Holding the line.

[Darkspazztic]

Major Swift wrote...

zephyrus92 wrote...

Oh man... I'm IMing my friend right now who is currently choosing her flavor of galactic destruction for the first time. Anyone have anything they think I should tell her as she ponders whether to choose synthesis or destroy?

This was probably the hardest part of dealing with these horrible endings. Trying not to ruin the ride for my friends who haven't beaten the game.

i seem to have defaulted to always choosing the red flavor of galactic destruction, it doesnt seem right to mess with DNA and make everyone the same like you would with the green flavor IMO, and i know how you feel, my brother is playing through mass effect 3 atm, its going to be brutal when he beats it

And that is why we're fighting this war.  So that soldiers like him can be spared the suffering we have gone through.

Hold that line!

Free irish whiskey shots all around!  It is St. Patty's day in some places after all...

[Benathorn]

Sl4sh3r wrote...

The Big Palooka wrote...

Reposting this again, because everyone, everyone, everyone needs to read the first post of this thread:

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10084349/1

Hold the Line.

Thank you for showing me this.

His posts are definitely worth th read.

"Casey's" comments today were nothing more than the PR guys doing there job.

Everyone click that link!

Hold the line!

I am so glad this guy is on our side and that he has just given me more moral to stand up against this ploy they keep trying to use. Everyone should read this link.

[Rookie_Onqc]

Soundsystem wrote...

I just wish everyone on BSN would stop yelling at each other about how "People who want an ending where X happens are stupid and they suck AND THEY ARE EVERYTHING BAD IN THE WORLD EVER!"

Mass Effect, at it's heart, is about choice. It's about being able to use that that choice to shape the universe around you. Nobodies choices are superior to anyone else's, they are just more enjoyable for themselves. If I want a happy ending (and I do) and someone else wants an ending where Shep sacrifices themselves neither ending is better. Both are great endings for each individual.

X2, the problem that most of us have with the ending is the lack of choices and the plotholes.......

[ld1449]

Computim wrote...

The more players they get on to N7 weekend the more people will buy the point packs for multiplayer, and the more money they get.. It also allows them to say "Multiplayer going strong!" to anyone who argues that the game has lost value, or needs to be fixed...etc.

I suspect it was planned well before now to do this.. honestly thought it was odd they're having the free SWTOR weekend too.

I really WANT to play multiplayer this weekend. However I'm not going to out of a personal stand. I encourage anyone else who wants to not do it to join in but I'm not going to think any less of anyone who plays.. Some people have very limited gaming budgets and I wouldn't expect them to give up a major one just because the ending sucked and needs to be rewritten, if you enjoy it, play it. If you feel the ending being rewritten is worth giving it up for do so, if not don't. No pressure, no moral "KITTENS WILL DIE IF YOU DO THIS". Just stay true to whatever you say.. don't play if you said you wouldn't or vice versa...though why you would do that is beyond me haha.

I agree completely

[VivaLaWhatsername]

Soundsystem wrote...

I just wish everyone on BSN would stop yelling at each other about how "People who want an ending where X happens are stupid and they suck AND THEY ARE EVERYTHING BAD IN THE WORLD EVER!"

Mass Effect, at it's heart, is about choice. It's about being able to use that that choice to shape the universe around you. Nobodies choices are superior to anyone else's, they are just more enjoyable for themselves. If I want a happy ending (and I do) and someone else wants an ending where Shep sacrifices themselves neither ending is better. Both are great endings for each individual.

I agree with you completely, this was the whole point of the fist 2 mass effects, it was YOUR choices that mattered and the choices were vast and mattered. Now the choices (at the end) are limited and don't matter at all. Making all the games pointless.

[Darth Sagan]

Hold..

The..

LINE!

[silencemayday]

damn. i almost forgot about paddys day. and i'm damn close to being half irish.
one more reason why we have to hold the line.
even if i can't currently come up with a good reason..

[Nharia1]

so anything new from the past 4+ hours?

[MrJu1c3]

Still holding the line up here in Edmonton.
We're getting closer, guys. Keep it up.

Modifié par MrJu1c3, 17 mars 2012 - 04:01 .

[Jorojr]

Nharia1 wrote...

so anything new from the past 4+ hours?

Smoke and mirrors. 

If you haven't already check out this thread for some insight:

http://social.biowar...ndex/10084349/1

[Computim]

Nharia1 wrote...

so anything new from the past 4+ hours?

Jessica started another thread

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10098213/1

She specifcally asks for what changes so she can compile them and bring them to the developers so stuff can be dealt with.

Basically we made enough noise someone came over to see what the fuss was about and now we're having some action \\o/

Edit: Being a computer programmer myself this is the USUAL way significant changes are made.  Clients are consulted and change requests compiled and then brought to a development meeting, discussed, and then the changes are implemented as best as can be.  I'd have loved to be more specific in my comments on the thread but I know I'm nowhere near as good at writing stories as Bioware and part of the fun is finding out the story as you go, if I write it I don't get that.

Modifié par Computim, 17 mars 2012 - 04:06 .

[XIzCarnageXIXZ]

don't know about you guys but am holding this line no matter how long.Am not seeing my favorite game be given a send off like that.we can do this

[Generic Name]

Computim wrote...
*Snip*

Now be sure to continue holding the line. This will be a long drawn out conflict.

[ld1449]

People, flood the Operation Goliath thread with your two cents. Talk to the players, don't hole yourselves in here and just say "Ohh they're gonna play" take action "March Over" and tell these players just how much they're screwing up by playing this, and how detrimental this is to getting what we all want. I already put up my post there on page 18 but I'm one voice. I need reinforcements

[Darkspazztic]

XIzCarnageXIXZ wrote...

don't know about you guys but am holding this line no matter how long.Am not seeing my favorite game be given a send off like that.we can do this

I'll drink to that.

[Jere85]

Holding the line.

[Misterdde45000]

Orléan still holding the line. >.> i'm glad i bought some monster energy drink

[Stygian1]

Darkspazztic wrote...

Stygian1 wrote...

Darkspazztic wrote...

WHISKEY REFILLED

Holding the line, though my spelling may die off in a few more drinks...

I can feel my courage coming back! My strength returning! Let's do this! Let's hold that line! 

Let's make 3 lines!

three?? Hell lets make ten! Try breaking ten lines of whiskey filled ME fans Bioware, I dare you! 

[Soundsystem]

Dunno if this has been posted yet.

http://social.biowar.../index/10087809

Brent Knowles, the lead designer for DA:O commented on his blog. And he sums up a lot of the issues with the ending beautifully. Makes me wish he was still with Bioware. As Bioware seem to have forget that they are making games, for a consumer base who has expectations. Not high art.

[Nharia1]

Jorojr wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

so anything new from the past 4+ hours?

Smoke and mirrors. 

If you haven't already check out this thread for some insight:

http://social.biowar...ndex/10084349/1

SO they're pulling the whole lets give them free stuff and maybe they'll foget about the ending trick? I find that despicable.... When did BW go down such an evil path?

[JasonTheGod]

Alamandorious wrote...

People. Loyal fans of Bioware. Loyal consumers of Bioware.

This battle is more important than you realize. We've garnered a LOT of attention...more attention, I think, than any other thing remotely similar. I know some people have been gaming longer than me, and on the internet longer than me, but I want to give those of you with less experience some of the experience I benefit from.

I've never been one to hang out on boards. I've never been one to participate beyond the occasional comment. Too many times I've seen flame wars happen, and a very small minority of people on a board disliking something (such as a game) and just shooting their mouths of. These small groups think they're exercising their freedom of speech, when all they're really doing is exercising the freedom from being punched in the mouth.

These people are ignored by just about everyone...eventually, these kinds of people evolved into the trolls we see today. Gaming magazines, well, media of any kind hardly took notice of them because of how they acted, and that their numbers were so small. And when they took notice, it was universally negative.

I have been on the net for 17 years, since I was 13. I've been a gamer for 22 years, since I was 8. I played consoles and computer before then, but I only got my first game system when I was 8. I love games, I love playing them for the adventure they offer that I couldn't get anywhere else. I enjoyed the stories they crafted, and the challenge they posed.

As the years wore on, I've seen games come and go...I've seen ones that were innovative, new, and exciting...and I've seen the ones that have come after using the same formula over and over again, until it was tired and worn. But not once did I comment, not once did I complain...because the people that were were not people I wanted to associate with.

Then along came the Mass Effect series. At first, I didn't pay any attention to it; I had other, more pressing concerns. But then, one day last year, I saw Mass Effect 2 for sale at Gamestop for $19.99, and decided to give it a try...I'd been hearing good things about the series.

After the first playthrough, I immediately purchased the first game. I had never, ever seen anything like this game...the unparalled choice, the way my decisions in conversations and events -mattered-. The believeable, fully developed characters. I had loved Fallout 3, having been a longtime fan of the Fallout series in general...but I adored Mass Effect far, far more.

I've never anticipated a game like I did Mass Effect 3. I told waited patiently, avoiding spoilers, fully intent on sucking every bit of enjoyment out of the game as possible, already planning trilogy-wide playthroughs just to see what I could do.

When it first came out, I like you, was totally amazed by it...the depth, the action, the -story-...until the endings, like you.

I came here, and saw this thread...and for the first time, I felt like joining. Here were people that felt and thought like me, that were displeased, that were NOT being idiots...that were being mature, presenting their stories and their cases in a mature and adult fashion...for the very first time, I saw people being intelligent about something negative...and I haven't turned back.

The number of people involved in this is staggering, the fact that it's organized is amazing. If non-gaming magazines like Forbes are taking notice of us, commenting on how what we are saying -matters-...and we have far more people from the Media saying we're right than ever. No other movement in this industry has even come close to matching our dedication, maturity, and generousity...well over $50,000 dollars donated in a few days speaks for itself.

We are being mature, we are being reasonable, and most of all we are being heard.

THAT is what is making all the difference. THAT is what sets us apart. If we give up now, we're doing the game industry irrevocable harm. We are continuing to allow the greedy though process that we, as consumers, do not matter. That they can shove the same tired things at us, shove incomplete and buggy products at us, and that we have no right to ask, and demand if necessary, change to something they've produced.

This doesn't work in anything else, people. There are plenty of examples where campaigns across just about every modern medium have succeeded. This is the first time in -this- medium that such a large group of people is demanding answers, demanding change...standing up for our rights as consumers with our passion as fans.

We are not acting entitled; that is reserved for those trolls who bash otherwise good products, the minorities in other forums that can do nothing but rage and flame.

We are customers, we are fans, and we don't want to see what we love degraded by greedy business practices. We don't want to see the game series we love ruined by what ammounts to sloppy writing at the end, a product defect that can, and has for most, destroyed the rest of the game.

In my experience, I've never seen anything like this movement, or the cooperation and dignity of you people...we need to do this, we need to set this example...we need to keep our voices heard and to get stronger.

So don't give up.

Well said
1500+ page and no flame wars WELL DONE 
Hold the line

[malra]

I think I must be missing out on important things because I'm working on my letter for tomorrw. What N7 weekend and have we really lossed people?

Someone needs to explain to people that 10 percent of nothin is.....let me do the math.....nothin.

[Zulmoka531]

Computim wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

so anything new from the past 4+ hours?

Jessica started another thread

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10098213/1

She specifcally asks for what changes so she can compile them and bring them to the developers so stuff can be dealt with.

Basically we made enough noise someone came over to see what the fuss was about and now we're having some action o/

Edit: Being a computer programmer myself this is the USUAL way significant changes are made.  Clients are consulted and change requests compiled and then brought to a development meeting, discussed, and then the changes are implemented as best as can be.  I'd have loved to be more specific in my comments on the thread but I know I'm nowhere near as good at writing stories as Bioware and part of the fun is finding out the story as you go, if I write it I don't get that.

Just be wary, it's also part of the PR tactic : http://social.biowar...ndex/10084349/1