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[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Risselda wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

If people complain load enough Bioware might make an alternative ending pack.

One thing I can say that the relays being gone doesnt mean the end of everythign and eternal solitude. They can be rebuild with time and effort. As can galactic society.

That would take tens of thousands of years since they don't even know how the relays work. 

The asari i think created a mass effect relay on a smaller scale. We have a prothean on our side. I dont think itd be that far in the future

That and the whole neccessity is the mother of invention thing.
 And you're right there would be multiple species working on the same problem and if they are all somewhat isolated there could be many different ways to travel the galaxy.

[Turel11234]

mass_zotz wrote...

Its not all of it but here is part of one destroy ending

Superior with sad music.
I just love how Joker looks back on an energy shockwave he can't see xD

[humes spork]

Quartof wrote...

I'm just joking with you Wrex.

We'll eat Joker. He's got them tender bones.

They're sure as bollocks not going to let him breed, brittle bone disease is congenital. The Normandy crew is going to have enough problems with inbreeding they'll end up all having blue babies with squinty eyes and oddly-shaped heads. And Liara will probably have to have children, too.

[mass_zotz]

Turel11234 wrote...

mass_zotz wrote...

Its not all of it but here is part of one destroy ending

Superior with sad music.
I just love how Joker looks back on an energy shockwave he can't see xD

lol yea what the hell is up with so many hand movments, is he dancing or something. LOL

[Nyaore]

Abaddon_86 wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

mariatea wrote...

Risselda wrote...

A dev posted on: http://social.biowar...7/index/9544880

I think that is evidence enough that it is true and will not change

Ugh... I thought that I already accepted all of this, but now I feel anger rising again.

What.The.Hell. Just what the hell...

God, I want the old Bioware back, the old Chris, the old team, before EA corrupted it all...

so back to the same tired cliches, the one dimensional characters that are not the first two party members you meet, heavy emphasis on talking codex over real character development, the clearly black and white morality system, no new IPs just adapted ones, and a huge risk aversion in which the company never grows, is afraid to fail, and no longer revolutionizes the industry.

Really old Bioware wasn't THAT good, it was just good FOR ITS TIME.

Please... Baldur's Gate 2 combined with ToB was like a computer game made by God.

I wouldn't go that far, personally, but as someone who isn't even that fond of some of Bioware's old games I honestly have to say that BG2 is as close to a masterpiece as we're ever going to get on the Western RPG market. And I say that as someone who only discovered it and all the old Bioware RPG's within the last two years.

[crimzontearz]

I am curious

how will bioware justify this? I mean even bungie admitted Halo 2's ending was badly handled

[txgoldrush]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

killerteeth wrote...

Six years Bioware. Six goddamn years and all of the money spent on two games and DLC.

I don't expect a super flower ending, I expected (and accepted) that the galaxy would be royally screwed up even in the best playthrough. Fighting milion year old machine gods is not easy.

But what you have done to the Normandy crew (squadmates from the last two games) is just wrong. There is no other word for it. People having been playing this game series for the last six years and have grown attached to the characters. Everyone has their favorites.

Some people wanted to retire with their LI, some wanted to ram the normandy into the boss reaper for an epic conclusion, people wanted to decide how shepard's and CO. story ends. These characters aren't critical to the "messed up" galaxy conclusion. You could of easily allowed people to have these endings.

But no, this is just a game right? Its like not people have been waiting to conclude their shep's story their way for half of a decade. Maybe you'll sell us some DLC to get better endings, why not? Its not like people won't buy it.

I have bought ME1 and ME2 + all of the DLC for both games(except the comic). I have ME3 CE preordered. Thats a lot of money bioware. I hope you enjoy it because its the last money you'll ever get from me.

To all of the biodrones and apologists who will inevitably flame me: open your eyes. Bioware trolled us and good hard. I hope you can see that.

Thank you, you are the kind of independent thinker that Bioware and the Biodrones have been trying to silence. My hat is off to you.

so there little Sheps can't be with their virtual sex toys.....boo hoo

Ah, thanks for furfilling his prediction, Biodrone. I could care less about not having sex or even the relationships, if it means keeping the team together.

Edit: Good god, what is it with every person who defends Bioware having the most atrocious grammar ever?

and why does ever Bioware critic have to be a stuck up jerk that takes everything out of context?

[Quartof]

Really, both hardcore Bioware haters, and hardcore Bioware fanboys/girls are massively irritating.

[RazorrX]

Risselda wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

If people complain load enough Bioware might make an alternative ending pack.

One thing I can say that the relays being gone doesnt mean the end of everythign and eternal solitude. They can be rebuild with time and effort. As can galactic society.

That would take tens of thousands of years since they don't even know how the relays work. 

The asari i think created a mass effect relay on a smaller scale. We have a prothean on our side. I dont think itd be that far in the future

Our prothean is a warrior who was born during the reaping.  He is not a tech guy, more like the last prothean renegade, bent on vengence against the reapers.  

The odds of building a new mass relay system (and it takes a system right?) in less than a few thousand years is pretty low as all eezo tech quits.  The relays are eezo tech right?  So what do we replace that with?  Both our and the Prothean technology was based heavily on reaper tech (eezo tech).  We would have to completely rethink everything and start over.

I guess you could make 2 relays, and jump randomly with one in a cargo hold to finish at wherever you end up for a fixed end point, then go on to the next one.

[ratzerman]

crimzontearz wrote...

I am curious

how will bioware justify this?

With deafening silence.

[Elegana]

XX55XX wrote...

I hear that you if cast Tali, the VS, or Garrus away as war assets for the Hammer team, they remain on Earth and survive, but you don't get to use them as part of your squad during the game. Guess that is a loophole to help save the squadmates you like the most. Joker and Liara still get spaced, though.

FINALLY. There really is a way for Bioware's precious princess to die.

[Unit-Alpha]

txgoldrush wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

killerteeth wrote...

Six years Bioware. Six goddamn years and all of the money spent on two games and DLC.

I don't expect a super flower ending, I expected (and accepted) that the galaxy would be royally screwed up even in the best playthrough. Fighting milion year old machine gods is not easy.

But what you have done to the Normandy crew (squadmates from the last two games) is just wrong. There is no other word for it. People having been playing this game series for the last six years and have grown attached to the characters. Everyone has their favorites.

Some people wanted to retire with their LI, some wanted to ram the normandy into the boss reaper for an epic conclusion, people wanted to decide how shepard's and CO. story ends. These characters aren't critical to the "messed up" galaxy conclusion. You could of easily allowed people to have these endings.

But no, this is just a game right? Its like not people have been waiting to conclude their shep's story their way for half of a decade. Maybe you'll sell us some DLC to get better endings, why not? Its not like people won't buy it.

I have bought ME1 and ME2 + all of the DLC for both games(except the comic). I have ME3 CE preordered. Thats a lot of money bioware. I hope you enjoy it because its the last money you'll ever get from me.

To all of the biodrones and apologists who will inevitably flame me: open your eyes. Bioware trolled us and good hard. I hope you can see that.

Thank you, you are the kind of independent thinker that Bioware and the Biodrones have been trying to silence. My hat is off to you.

so there little Sheps can't be with their virtual sex toys.....boo hoo

Ah, thanks for furfilling his prediction, Biodrone. I couldn't care less about not having sex or even the relationships, if it means keeping the team together.

Edit: Good god, what is it with every person who defends Bioware having the most atrocious grammar ever?

and why does ever Bioware critic have to be a stuck up jerk that takes everything out of context?

Hmm... name calling...

"Anyone posting a personal attack on staff, moderators or other Community
members will, at the sole discretion of staff or moderators, be banned
from the BioWare Social Network"

Yeah, might want to pay attention to that; not that I expect them to ban a person who is supporting them. Also, remind me how I took something out context, please.

Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 01 mars 2012 - 01:24 .

[txgoldrush]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

RazorrX wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

and yet they were a "puppet" for Microsoft......nevermind the fact that they went the action route BEFORE EA bought them.

It's interesting to see you defend the company by bashing it; class act right there.

Yeah, because ME1 was GoW-esque TPS.

Oh wait, no, it wasn't.

Ever heard of Jade Empire?

Yeah, and it was good. What's your point? It's a martial arts game, did you expect a plodding plot or something?

Ahhh Jade Empire.  I really liked that game.  It had some nice storylines at times, and the kung fu was fun.  I always wanted a sequel to that, but am afraid to wish for it anymore the way things have gone.

which had one huge flaw, Closed Fist, in theory a more liberatrian philosophy, was in practice puppy kicking. Typical old bioware with black and white morality.

Wait, so your problem is with black and white morality? It really does work in some cases.

I'm guessing you're one of those D&D players.

Nevermind the fact that said ideology is presented as grey, but then practiced as black....you know writing flaws.

Its old hat as well....hell even series that had black and white morality moved away from it, see Fallout New Vegas, where rep is more important than karma.

And none have even come close to the depth of the morality of the Ultima games.

[Abaddon_86]

Nyaore wrote...

Abaddon_86 wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

mariatea wrote...

Risselda wrote...

A dev posted on: http://social.biowar...7/index/9544880

I think that is evidence enough that it is true and will not change

Ugh... I thought that I already accepted all of this, but now I feel anger rising again.

What.The.Hell. Just what the hell...

God, I want the old Bioware back, the old Chris, the old team, before EA corrupted it all...

so back to the same tired cliches, the one dimensional characters that are not the first two party members you meet, heavy emphasis on talking codex over real character development, the clearly black and white morality system, no new IPs just adapted ones, and a huge risk aversion in which the company never grows, is afraid to fail, and no longer revolutionizes the industry.

Really old Bioware wasn't THAT good, it was just good FOR ITS TIME.

Please... Baldur's Gate 2 combined with ToB was like a computer game made by God.

I wouldn't go that far, personally, but as someone who isn't even that fond of some of Bioware's old games I honestly have to say that BG2 is as close to a masterpiece as we're ever going to get on the Western RPG market.

+1

sadly.

And even more sadly, that no game will EVER come even close to BG2+ToB...
The developement in the last years simply leaves no hope in that regard.

Modifié par Abaddon_86, 01 mars 2012 - 01:25 .

[Capeo]

txgoldrush wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

killerteeth wrote...

Six years Bioware. Six goddamn years and all of the money spent on two games and DLC.

I don't expect a super flower ending, I expected (and accepted) that the galaxy would be royally screwed up even in the best playthrough. Fighting milion year old machine gods is not easy.

But what you have done to the Normandy crew (squadmates from the last two games) is just wrong. There is no other word for it. People having been playing this game series for the last six years and have grown attached to the characters. Everyone has their favorites.

Some people wanted to retire with their LI, some wanted to ram the normandy into the boss reaper for an epic conclusion, people wanted to decide how shepard's and CO. story ends. These characters aren't critical to the "messed up" galaxy conclusion. You could of easily allowed people to have these endings.

But no, this is just a game right? Its like not people have been waiting to conclude their shep's story their way for half of a decade. Maybe you'll sell us some DLC to get better endings, why not? Its not like people won't buy it.

I have bought ME1 and ME2 + all of the DLC for both games(except the comic). I have ME3 CE preordered. Thats a lot of money bioware. I hope you enjoy it because its the last money you'll ever get from me.

To all of the biodrones and apologists who will inevitably flame me: open your eyes. Bioware trolled us and good hard. I hope you can see that.

Thank you, you are the kind of independent thinker that Bioware and the Biodrones have been trying to silence. My hat is off to you.

so there little Sheps can't be with their virtual sex toys.....boo hoo

So you again prove you're here just to be a contrarian.  What is so hard to understand here, pal?  You're not the dictator of what people enjoy about ME and BW promised varied endings multiple times which they clearly didn't deliver.  If you don't mind the endings then good for you.  Say that and be done with it.  Otherwise you're just trolling at this point.

[txgoldrush]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

killerteeth wrote...

Six years Bioware. Six goddamn years and all of the money spent on two games and DLC.

I don't expect a super flower ending, I expected (and accepted) that the galaxy would be royally screwed up even in the best playthrough. Fighting milion year old machine gods is not easy.

But what you have done to the Normandy crew (squadmates from the last two games) is just wrong. There is no other word for it. People having been playing this game series for the last six years and have grown attached to the characters. Everyone has their favorites.

Some people wanted to retire with their LI, some wanted to ram the normandy into the boss reaper for an epic conclusion, people wanted to decide how shepard's and CO. story ends. These characters aren't critical to the "messed up" galaxy conclusion. You could of easily allowed people to have these endings.

But no, this is just a game right? Its like not people have been waiting to conclude their shep's story their way for half of a decade. Maybe you'll sell us some DLC to get better endings, why not? Its not like people won't buy it.

I have bought ME1 and ME2 + all of the DLC for both games(except the comic). I have ME3 CE preordered. Thats a lot of money bioware. I hope you enjoy it because its the last money you'll ever get from me.

To all of the biodrones and apologists who will inevitably flame me: open your eyes. Bioware trolled us and good hard. I hope you can see that.

Thank you, you are the kind of independent thinker that Bioware and the Biodrones have been trying to silence. My hat is off to you.

so there little Sheps can't be with their virtual sex toys.....boo hoo

Ah, thanks for furfilling his prediction, Biodrone. I could care less about not having sex or even the relationships, if it means keeping the team together.

Edit: Good god, what is it with every person who defends Bioware having the most atrocious grammar ever?

and why does ever Bioware critic have to be a stuck up jerk that takes everything out of context?

Hmm... name calling...

"Anyone posting a personal attack on staff, moderators or other Community
members will, at the sole discretion of staff or moderators, be banned
from the BioWare Social Network"

Yeah, might want to pay attention to that. Also, remind me how I took something out context, please.

and your not generalizing in an insulting manner?...whatever

[Legendaryred]

So all those choices don't matter because either way. Bioware, I'm disapoint.

[Kasen]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Risselda wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

If people complain load enough Bioware might make an alternative ending pack.

One thing I can say that the relays being gone doesnt mean the end of everythign and eternal solitude. They can be rebuild with time and effort. As can galactic society.

That would take tens of thousands of years since they don't even know how the relays work. 

The asari i think created a mass effect relay on a smaller scale. We have a prothean on our side. I dont think itd be that far in the future

That and the whole neccessity is the mother of invention thing.
 And you're right there would be multiple species working on the same problem and if they are all somewhat isolated there could be many different ways to travel the galaxy.

While it's difficult to give an estimate on how long it would take, I think that's the real point here. There will be billions, if not trillions of people across the galaxy that want to get back home, see loved ones or any number of reasons for needing the quick interstellar travel that the Mass Relays provide.

I'd like to add though, as far as I can tell, interstellar communications is not dependant on the Mass Relays. We hear references to "comm bouys" off and on, if that's the case, then all those seperated planets will still be able to communicate, which could speed recovery (and likely allow contact with survivors who may be stranded).

Edit: After being corrected and checking the wiki, I see that comm bouys are indeed dependant on Mass Relays. Sad, because that alone sets back recovery by who knows how long.

Modifié par Kasen13, 01 mars 2012 - 01:55 .

[Unit-Alpha]

txgoldrush wrote...

and your not generalizing in an insulting manner?...whatever

Don't deflect; answer my question.

Also, generalizing in an insulting manner? What is this, first grade bullying prevention?

Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 01 mars 2012 - 01:26 .

[txgoldrush]

Abaddon_86 wrote...

Nyaore wrote...

Abaddon_86 wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

mariatea wrote...

Risselda wrote...

A dev posted on: http://social.biowar...7/index/9544880

I think that is evidence enough that it is true and will not change

Ugh... I thought that I already accepted all of this, but now I feel anger rising again.

What.The.Hell. Just what the hell...

God, I want the old Bioware back, the old Chris, the old team, before EA corrupted it all...

so back to the same tired cliches, the one dimensional characters that are not the first two party members you meet, heavy emphasis on talking codex over real character development, the clearly black and white morality system, no new IPs just adapted ones, and a huge risk aversion in which the company never grows, is afraid to fail, and no longer revolutionizes the industry.

Really old Bioware wasn't THAT good, it was just good FOR ITS TIME.

Please... Baldur's Gate 2 combined with ToB was like a computer game made by God.

I wouldn't go that far, personally, but as someone who isn't even that fond of some of Bioware's old games I honestly have to say that BG2 is as close to a masterpiece as we're ever going to get on the Western RPG market.

+1

sadly.

Planescape Torment > Baldur's Gate II

[Sashimi_taco]

Kasen13 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Risselda wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

If people complain load enough Bioware might make an alternative ending pack.

One thing I can say that the relays being gone doesnt mean the end of everythign and eternal solitude. They can be rebuild with time and effort. As can galactic society.

That would take tens of thousands of years since they don't even know how the relays work. 

The asari i think created a mass effect relay on a smaller scale. We have a prothean on our side. I dont think itd be that far in the future

That and the whole neccessity is the mother of invention thing.
 And you're right there would be multiple species working on the same problem and if they are all somewhat isolated there could be many different ways to travel the galaxy.

While it's difficult to give an estimate on how long it would take, I think that's the real point here. There will be billions, if not trillions of people across the galaxy that want to get back home, see loved ones or any number of reasons for needing the quick interstellar travel that the Mass Relays provide.

I'd like to add though, as far as I can tell, interstellar communications is not dependant on the Mass Relays. We hear references to "comm bouys" off and on, if that's the case, then all those seperated planets will still be able to communicate, which could speed recovery (and likely allow contact with survivors who may be stranded).

Comm bouys work through the mass effect relays, sadly. 

[crimzontearz]

ratzerman wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...I am curioushow will bioware justify this?

With deafening silence.

bungie tried that





so did Silicon Knights....





ultimately everyone has to say something

[RiptideX1090]

Kasen13 wrote...


I'd like to add though, as far as I can tell, interstellar communications is not dependant on the Mass Relays. We hear references to "comm bouys" off and on, if that's the case, then all those seperated planets will still be able to communicate, which could speed recovery (and likely allow contact with survivors who may be stranded).

Comm Bouys rely on the Mass Relays to send datapackets at fast enough speed to be sent across the galaxy.

Communications are gone for good.

[txgoldrush]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

and your not generalizing in an insulting manner?...whatever

Don't deflect; answer my question.

and do you have the entire ending in context? No you don't.

You are just another poster who judges an ending based of incomplete information.